Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.3.10 failing to use system fonts.
Hi, "Matthew Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After some research, I've discovered some things about fonts, gimp, > and linux. (Some of this may be old news to many of you, but it was > new to me because I'm not a font expert.) On RH8.0 (and probably > other dist's as well) there are 3 font handlers. The first is the > traditional X font server "xfs" or "xfstt" on some systems. The > other two font handlers are Xft and the new Xft2. Xfs gets it's > configuration from the familiar /etc/X11/XF86Config file and from > /etc/X11/fs/config. Nothing new here. The Xft font handler uses > /etc/X11/XftConfig for it's config (it may also be in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 as well). But the newest version of Xft called > Xft2 uses a pair of new config files which live in /etc/fonts called > "fonts.conf" and "fonts.dtd". RedHat ships with development versions of Pango so this is a RedHat-only situation. They may have had good reasons to do this. However this is totally unrelated to fonts in the GIMP text tool since the GIMP text tool doesn't use X11 to render fonts. It uses PangoFT2 which only happens to share a configuration file with PangoXft. > This situtation kinda sucks because I have a lot of nice looking > fonts which are useless under 1.3.10, but work perfectly under > 1.2.3. I'm not sure why the font hadlers have become so fragmented > under X/Gnome/Gimp, but it would be nice if there was some way to > regain the use of the font libraries which worked under earlier > versions of Gimp. I wouldn't say that the fonts worked perfectly under GIMP-1.2.3 since if anything sucks than it's the text tool in GIMP-1.2. The new tool however is under development and subject to changes. You better stop complaining. Then you should decide if you want to help with that development. Any help is appreciated. If all you want to do is to use The GIMP, you better delete GIMP-1.3.10 today and wait till we call it a stable version. Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
re: [Gimp-developer] 1.3.10 failing to use system fonts.
After some research, I've discovered some things about fonts, gimp, and linux. (Some of this may be old news to many of you, but it was new to me because I'm not a font expert.) On RH8.0 (and probably other dist's as well) there are 3 font handlers. The first is the traditional X font server "xfs" or "xfstt" on some systems. The other two font handlers are Xft and the new Xft2. Xfs gets it's configuration from the familiar /etc/X11/XF86Config file and from /etc/X11/fs/config. Nothing new here. The Xft font handler uses /etc/X11/XftConfig for it's config (it may also be in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 as well). But the newest version of Xft called Xft2 uses a pair of new config files which live in /etc/fonts called "fonts.conf" and "fonts.dtd". It seems that Gnome now uses Xft2 for it's fonts because when I added the directories to the new config file, then ran "fc-cache" in the font directory, the new fonts suddenly became available to Gnome applications with the exception of Gimp. I also added the new font directories to the older XftConfig file so that they would be available to any app using Xft. Gimp now sees the fonts, but only about a third of them look right. The other two-thirds seem to be using a default font in place of the actual selected font. So for example, if I chose one of the microsoft fonts, I get the default "sans" font instead. This situtation kinda sucks because I have a lot of nice looking fonts which are useless under 1.3.10, but work perfectly under 1.2.3. I'm not sure why the font hadlers have become so fragmented under X/Gnome/Gimp, but it would be nice if there was some way to regain the use of the font libraries which worked under earlier versions of Gimp.
Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.3.10 failing to use system fonts.
Hmmm. That's exactly what I did, but it didn't work. I also did a system-wide search to make sure there wasn't another XftConfig file that it may be using instead of the one in /etc/X11. No other copies were found except for a symbolic link in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. All the fonts I'm trying to add are TrueType and as far as I know are all scalable. Is there a way to find out for sure which fonts are scalable and which are not? All of the fonts appear in the fonts.scale file which I think means they are scalable. (btw: restarting xfs was an act of desperation.) > Hi, > > "Matthew Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The man page wasn't much help. I added the relevent directories to the > > XftConfig file and restarted xfs just in case, but Gimp is still refusing to > > use anything other than the default fonts. Could someone post a copy of > > their XftConfig file as an example of how to add font libraries to Gimp? > > I will say it again: GIMP-1.3 does _not_ make use of X11 to render > fonts. It thus doesn't make any sense to restart xfs since the font > server is not involved at all. > > Adding the font directories to /etc/X11/XftConfig should do the > trick. Here's an example line: > > dir "/usr/local/share/fonts/TrueType" > > Please note that you need scalable fonts, not necessarily TrueType, > but scalable. > > > Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.3.10 failing to use system fonts.
Hi, "Matthew Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The man page wasn't much help. I added the relevent directories to the > XftConfig file and restarted xfs just in case, but Gimp is still refusing to > use anything other than the default fonts. Could someone post a copy of > their XftConfig file as an example of how to add font libraries to Gimp? I will say it again: GIMP-1.3 does _not_ make use of X11 to render fonts. It thus doesn't make any sense to restart xfs since the font server is not involved at all. Adding the font directories to /etc/X11/XftConfig should do the trick. Here's an example line: dir "/usr/local/share/fonts/TrueType" Please note that you need scalable fonts, not necessarily TrueType, but scalable. Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.3.10 failing to use system fonts.
The man page wasn't much help. I added the relevent directories to the XftConfig file and restarted xfs just in case, but Gimp is still refusing to use anything other than the default fonts. Could someone post a copy of their XftConfig file as an example of how to add font libraries to Gimp? Thanks. > Hi, > > "Matthew Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This may be a configuration issue, but 1.3.10 only uses a small > > subset of the fonts available to X. Gimp 1.2.3 has no trouble using > > all the available fonts, so I don't believe it's xfs problem. Any > > ideas? > > this is indeed a configuration issue. GIMP-1.3 doesn't use X11 to > render fonts. It does however share the configuration file with the > Xft font rendering system. You need to set up /etc/X11/XftConfig. > The file format is described in Xft(3). > > > Salut, Sven > ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 1.3.10 failing to use system fonts.
Hi, "Matthew Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This may be a configuration issue, but 1.3.10 only uses a small > subset of the fonts available to X. Gimp 1.2.3 has no trouble using > all the available fonts, so I don't believe it's xfs problem. Any > ideas? this is indeed a configuration issue. GIMP-1.3 doesn't use X11 to render fonts. It does however share the configuration file with the Xft font rendering system. You need to set up /etc/X11/XftConfig. The file format is described in Xft(3). Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
