Re: [Gimp-developer] Color from gradient broken

2010-11-05 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Ofnuts  wrote:
>
> I just played a bit with this and I confirm there is something fishy in
> the UI (I'm on 2.6).
<...snip...>
>
> Hoping my criticism has been constructive enough ...

Sadly, it is mostly hopelessly obsolete. Dynamics in git are VERY
different than what is in 2.6. there are several review of git and its
under development dynamics out there, look one up. For example,
dynamics grid is now 11x7 check boxes and resides in its own dockable
and each of the mappings can have a curve applied...

One note on it tho, velocity does not require an extended device.

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[Gimp-developer] Color from gradient broken

2010-11-05 Thread Ofnuts

I just played a bit with this and I confirm there is something fishy in 
the UI (I'm on 2.6).

When using a tablet, with "color from gradient" checked and all brush 
dynamics (pressure/velocity/random) un-checked, one ends up in  a mode 
where the color is derived from the length of the current brush stroke. 
And there is nothing making that clear in the UI. And when one selects 
another dynamic, the "length" one disappears and nothing shows how to 
put it back.

So, my suggestion;

1) make the "length" dynamic (or whatever its official name is) 
explicit, with its own line of checkboxes.

2) grey out the gradient part when no "color" is used in any of the 
dynamics (its "length" selector, that seem used only for the length 
dynamic could be replaced by the cursor on the right of the checkboxes).

3) the "fade out" option is merely the opacity controlled by the length 
dynamic.

4) grey out the pressure/veloclity (no tilt support yet?) when there are 
no extended devices.

5) come to think of it, the amount of jitter could also be controlled by 
the dynamics (of course we need a way to specifiy a fixed jitter, either 
by an artificial "no dynamic", or by using a minimum cursor value in the 
length dynamic).

6) I'm not too enamored with the little cursor symbols next to the 
checkboxes. 1) iIt is not so obvious there is something to set there, 2) 
they aren't that much readable, 3) they don't explain how they work 
(percentage? length? pixels/second)? 3) some dynamics may need more than 
one cursor (for length: none/sawtooth/triangle, but pressure/velocity 
could have several transfer functions)

Hoping my criticism has been constructive enough ...




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Re: [Gimp-developer] Color from Gradient broken

2010-10-31 Thread Alexia Death
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure what recent changes it's related to and whether this is
> well-known, but "Color from Gradient" appears to be broken: if you
> check the option and choose even a very colorful gradient, the brush
> will still paint with the currently chosen FG color.
For this to work you need to enable color dynamic on some input as
well. and its not recent, its so ever since the new dynamics were put
in place. Both gradient and and fade suffer from this double enabling
quirk. the old dynamics just overrode the gradient switch in the tool
options. If there was a color maping it worked. My plan to remove the
enabling tick-boxes wasn't accepted and nobody has really proposed
another workable plan yet so it sits and waits for a bright idea.


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[Gimp-developer] Color from Gradient broken

2010-10-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

I'm not sure what recent changes it's related to and whether this is
well-known, but "Color from Gradient" appears to be broken: if you
check the option and choose even a very colorful gradient, the brush
will still paint with the currently chosen FG color.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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