Re: [Gimp-developer] Smaller toolbar and grouping

2006-04-03 Thread Campbell Barton
Nice work Bart, even though I was against it- good on you for exploring 
the radial approach.

Can GTK do this at the moment?
it seems desirable (prever hoz buttons) and if gtk supports, Im guessing 
its not that bug a deal.

- Cam

Bart wrote:

Hi,

thanks for the replies, so i going on with it:
http://www.neeneenee.de/blender/toolbar02.png




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[Gimp-developer] Smaller toolbar and grouping

2006-04-01 Thread Bart


Hi,

just a proposal about a smaller toolbar and a way grouping of buttons in 
the toolbar (not about what kind of buttons belong to which specific 
group and there position etc.).


http://www.neeneenee.de/blender/toolbar.png

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Smaller toolbar and grouping

2006-04-01 Thread Jon A. Cruz


On Apr 1, 2006, at 7:32 AM, Bart wrote:



Hi,

just a proposal about a smaller toolbar and a way grouping of  
buttons in the toolbar (not about what kind of buttons belong to  
which specific group and there position etc.).


http://www.neeneenee.de/blender/toolbar.png


That seems pretty

However, from a usability standpoint it might be much harder to use  
than just a straight line of buttons popping up either below or to  
the right. (Similar to the don't have to stop and look for it  
position for the Mac OS menubar on the screen not the window).


There could be an argument for it becoming second nature, like  
Graffiti moves on a Palm, but then you also have to commit to keeping  
the popups' relative locations in the same spots forever.


Also, while some people work more naturally with mouse gestures,  
others do not.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Smaller toolbar and grouping

2006-04-01 Thread Campbell Barton

Hey Bart.. Another Blender3D person here!

As far as useability, goes- im that That fussed. though I tend towards 
the more common row of buttons under the button your pressing (alligned 
to the right/left)
This is simple because your not limited to a 4 options. (okay 5 would 
work but look silly) and since a diagonal button is not a part of the 
options but still outlined somewhat, (in barts example the measurement 
tool is outlined on 3 sides, though I can tell its not an option, a 
quick click and select may be more confusing in this case.)

its better to just have a row//

Another resion to use a left/right aligned row. is that many people 
place there toolbars at the side of there screen. no5. would have the 
LHS button off the screen.


Still I like the idea of having nested buttons, especialy for the 
transform tools that I rarely use but need to access.

- Cam


Jon A. Cruz wrote:


On Apr 1, 2006, at 7:32 AM, Bart wrote:



Hi,

just a proposal about a smaller toolbar and a way grouping of buttons 
in the toolbar (not about what kind of buttons belong to which 
specific group and there position etc.).


http://www.neeneenee.de/blender/toolbar.png


That seems pretty

However, from a usability standpoint it might be much harder to use 
than just a straight line of buttons popping up either below or to the 
right. (Similar to the don't have to stop and look for it position 
for the Mac OS menubar on the screen not the window).


There could be an argument for it becoming second nature, like 
Graffiti moves on a Palm, but then you also have to commit to keeping 
the popups' relative locations in the same spots forever.


Also, while some people work more naturally with mouse gestures, 
others do not.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Smaller toolbar and grouping

2006-04-01 Thread Bart

Hi,

thanks for the replies, so i going on with it:
http://www.neeneenee.de/blender/toolbar02.png

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