Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:20:49 +0100, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - speak up. What do ye think? Are we going to GUADEC? Should I continue exploring Lyon in case it doesn't work out? Are there other possibilities? For those who do not have all the information about GUADEC 5 already, let's just mention that it will be held June 28-30, 2004 at Agder University College in Kristiansand (Southern part of Norway). You can find the GUADEC press release with more details and a map on: http://2004.guadec.org/ As far as I am concerned, FOSDEM would have been the best choice for me (less than 100 km drive ;-)), followed by Lyon (nice weather, still easy to reach by car) and GUADEC (more difficult to reach by car, but then there is the advantage of having GUADEC). The other options seemed less interesting for me. But that is only my point of view. Obviously, someone living in a different part of the world would have very different ideas about what place is easier to reach. -Raphaël ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC
David Neary wrote: Hi all, Following up from the mail last week discussing the date and location of GIMPCon, here's the state of play on the various possibilities discussed. 1) GUADEC: The GNOME crowd are delighted to have us, the guadec planning committee are very eager, and are now planning a graphics/multimedia stream for the conference. I am now on the guadec-planning mailing list, and if we go to guadec I'll be co-organising the graphics stream (I wonder why I asked for a volunteer to do this...). cut So the situation as it is is that we should decide pretty quickly where we want to have the conference. Does having it at GUADEC pose any problems for anyone? Personally I think this is the best option available to us, even if it will pose us some fundraising problems. I like the GUADEC idea technically. From a personal, selfish, un-gimp-like, I want to see the world point of view, London, Lyon, and Dublin have been on my list of places to see for quite some time. However, I think GAUDEC, especially since they are excited to have us and are sound willing to accomadate our needs, is better for us as a project. I am not sure if there are going to be fund raising issues, per say. We are probably one of a relativly small set of projects going that don't have any regular funding, so I am willing to wager that the funding will be no more trouble for us that it is normally. Also, as far as volunteers go, obviously I am not the best person to be planning anything happening in Europe (at the very least my sleep schedule couldn't handle it). However, if you have anything you would like or can be delagated to me, please ask. For our part, it would be nice to see 2 or 3 papers presented by GIMP people, and the organisers have asked whether it would be possible to have GIMP demonstrations similar to the one that jimmac did last year. The papers could be quite in-depth and technical, given the nature of GUADEC, or could be more aimed towards users and have a tutorial feel to them. I should really give a presentation on Gegl there. This would encourage me to get off my ass and write technal white papers discussing the huge about of planning I feel I have put into gegl. This would be good for me, too, as writing down ideas always provides a good oppurtunity to improve on them. Also writing down ideas provides a good chance for people to critizie those ideas, which would also be good. So - speak up. What do ye think? Are we going to GUADEC? Should I continue exploring Lyon in case it doesn't work out? Are there other possibilities? What are your feelings here? Do you think there is a chance GAUDEC won't work out? -- Dan ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC
Hi, Daniel Rogers wrote: I like the GUADEC idea technically. From a personal, selfish, un-gimp-like, I want to see the world point of view, London, Lyon, and Dublin have been on my list of places to see for quite some time. However, I think GAUDEC, especially since they are excited to have us and are sound willing to accomadate our needs, is better for us as a project. London's easy to get to, Dublin's nothing special, and why on earth would you want to come to Lyon before (say) Prague, Paris, Amsterdam, or half a dozen other cities around Europe? :) I am not sure if there are going to be fund raising issues, per say. We are probably one of a relativly small set of projects going that don't have any regular funding, so I am willing to wager that the funding will be no more trouble for us that it is normally. Given that GNOME is a GNU project, and in past years the FSF has been our biggest contributor for conferences, I can foresee problems. Also, as far as volunteers go, obviously I am not the best person to be planning anything happening in Europe (at the very least my sleep schedule couldn't handle it). However, if you have anything you would like or can be delagated to me, please ask. It would be really cool if you would be the money man - the man that we could have the checks made out to. And if you could muscle some of those Comdex contacts, and work US companies (particularly Hollywood, where we know teh GIMP is used a lot), that would be brilliant. I should really give a presentation on Gegl there. This would encourage me to get off my ass and write technal white papers discussing the huge about of planning I feel I have put into gegl. This would be good for me, too, as writing down ideas always provides a good oppurtunity to improve on them. Also writing down ideas provides a good chance for people to critizie those ideas, which would also be good. That's great to hear too. The official call for papers hasn't gone out yet, but the format in previous years has been 30 minute talks and 60 minute talks, people would like to see published proceedings this year, so perhaps a 60 minute presentation might be an idea to get a bit of meat on things? What are your feelings here? Do you think there is a chance GAUDEC won't work out? I think there is a chance that we might end up struggling to get everyone there financially. I also think there's a chance that some GIMP people might not like the connotation that GIMP is or might be a GNOME app. I also think that piggy-backing on a big developers conference is risky, in that the objective of the GimpCon would be to be 100% into the GIMP for a few days, and with GUADEC going on that might not be so easy. In other words, I can see why some people might prefer a smaller cosier event. I think that the way our organisation is now, that's asking a lot of a couple of people to organise. The benefits of a big event are that there is less infrastructure to work on from our point of view. So there are pros and cons :) Personally, I like GUADEC. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
