Re: [ANNOUNCE] GimpMill - A Sawmill Theme Tool

2000-01-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin

On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:55:10 +0800, Ian McKellar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

For each of the frame parts create a separate layer in the way
described above, but call each of these "PART: name" where name will
be used in the image name. To set frame part attributes append "name
= value" pairs to the frame part's layer's name (e.g. "PART:
closebutton class=close-button"). Finally to specify the difference
between the default frame decoration and the focussed, mouseover, etc
decoration you can optionally create layers called NORMAL, FOCUSED,
HIGHLIGHTED and CLICKED. These are merged with frame part layers
before they're saved. Often a black layer with 50% opacity in
"Multiply" mode will be what you're after, but if nececarry you can
provide complete replacement images.

A convenient user-accessible parasite editor would make this sort of
thing MUCH friendlier -- instead of having to use magic cookie layer
names you'd just click on a button on the layer dialog and edit the
layer's externally-defined properties

Kelly



Re: [ANNOUNCE] GimpMill - A Sawmill Theme Tool

2000-01-11 Thread Ian McKellar

On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 07:25:30AM -0500, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:55:10 +0800, Ian McKellar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 For each of the frame parts create a separate layer in the way
 described above, but call each of these "PART: name" where name will
 be used in the image name. To set frame part attributes append "name
 = value" pairs to the frame part's layer's name (e.g. "PART:
 closebutton class=close-button"). Finally to specify the difference
 between the default frame decoration and the focussed, mouseover, etc
 decoration you can optionally create layers called NORMAL, FOCUSED,
 HIGHLIGHTED and CLICKED. These are merged with frame part layers
 before they're saved. Often a black layer with 50% opacity in
 "Multiply" mode will be what you're after, but if nececarry you can
 provide complete replacement images.
 
 A convenient user-accessible parasite editor would make this sort of
 thing MUCH friendlier -- instead of having to use magic cookie layer
 names you'd just click on a button on the layer dialog and edit the
 layer's externally-defined properties
 
I'm going to try to implement this tonight. I was going to write a 
user-accessible cryptic-cookie-layer-name editor, but parasites are the
Right Way I guess.

I'll also fix that problem whereby the plugin doesn't actually work at all :)

Ian

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] GimpMill - A Sawmill Theme Tool

2000-01-11 Thread Marc Lehmann

On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 07:25:30AM -0500, Kelly Lynn Martin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A convenient user-accessible parasite editor would make this sort of
 thing MUCH friendlier -- instead of having to use magic cookie layer
 names you'd just click on a button on the layer dialog and edit the
 layer's externally-defined properties

What do you have in mind? The current parasite-editor suffers from (among
other problems) the lack of standardization. Nobody (I mean it ;) uses the
gserialize feature, for example (which has problems of its own), so the
only options are string and hex-editing at the moment. (Although I prefer
human-readable parasites over difficult-to-prase gserialize for impossible
to parse ad-hoc binary formats).

There is also the problem of non-persistant parasites. Is it worth the
effort to use a "portable" format for these kind of parasites? In theory
the plug-ins that generate them should be able to edit them much better
then a parasite-editor.

(But I am sure plug-ins will be able to add themselves to the
layerschannels menu in 1.2 or so, making it possible to add the
parasite-editor (or a parasite editor) there).

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] GimpMill - A Sawmill Theme Tool

2000-01-11 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

 Nobody (I mean it ;) uses the gserialize feature, for example (which has
 problems of its own)

Do you know of any probelms with geserialize? I use the functions for a 
project at university and would like to hear about problems I have not yet
been able to observe (the ones I found were fixed in Gimp CVS).


Salut, Sven
 



Re: [ANNOUNCE] GimpMill - A Sawmill Theme Tool

2000-01-10 Thread Carl B. Constantine

On 1/10/2000 8:55, Ian McKellar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 GimpMill is a GIMP plugin written in Python using James Henstrige's
 really cool Python GIMP bindings. It allows the construction of Sawmill
 themes within The GIMP - extending the GIMP interface to allow theme
 creation like the GAP extends it to allow animation creation.

very cool! I've been meaning to take a hard look at Sawmill and compare it
with E and such like. I have theme ideas and this will help greatly.

Thank you very much.

Also, slightly off topic, but there is also another sawmill theme creation
tool in the works by John Harper. There's a link to it on the
sawmill.themes.org site.


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] GimpMill - A Sawmill Theme Tool

2000-01-10 Thread Ian McKellar

On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 09:09:51AM -0800, Carl B. Constantine wrote:
 On 1/10/2000 8:55, Ian McKellar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  GimpMill is a GIMP plugin written in Python using James Henstrige's
  really cool Python GIMP bindings. It allows the construction of Sawmill
  themes within The GIMP - extending the GIMP interface to allow theme
  creation like the GAP extends it to allow animation creation.
 
 very cool! I've been meaning to take a hard look at Sawmill and compare it
 with E and such like. I have theme ideas and this will help greatly.

Sawmill is vastly superior. For a start its missing all of E's extra
features :)
 
 Also, slightly off topic, but there is also another sawmill theme creation
 tool in the works by John Harper. There's a link to it on the
 sawmill.themes.org site.
 
Yes, its apparently part of 0.21 which I haven't had a chance to look at 
yet. I thought I would write mine before I got to see his, so my ideas
weren't clouded by reality. I strongly feel that theme production tools
which are integrated into GIMP are the right way to go.

Ian

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