Re: [Gimp-developer] Information request.

2021-05-25 Thread Jernej Simončič via gimp-developer-list
On Wednesday, May 19, 2021, 11:08:08, OOrtiz@certitude.london wrote:

> 1.Does the software require admin rights? If yes please instruct reasons for 
> admin rights

No, neither install, nor usage require the user to be admin (if GIMP is 
installed by an administrator, it'll be available to all users, but they don't 
need admin rights to run it).

> 2.Can we have source files of the software (Installation files )

What exactly do you need here - the source code of GIMP itself, the source code 
of installer, or something else? Source code for GIMP and the installer is 
available through gnome gitlab: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/

> 3. Is there any instructions or documentation how to support his application ?

You can find documentation for GIMP here: <https://www.gimp.org/docs/>

If you need to install GIMP silently, Inno Setup documentation applies: 
<https://jrsoftware.org/ishelp/topic_setupcmdline.htm>

> 4.Does it require any special ports towards network config behind firewalls?

No, GIMP can work entirely off-line. If an internet connection is available, 
GIMP will check if a new version has been released (this is done through 
standard https connection; the check can be disabled in Preferences), and there 
is support for opening remote files directly.

> 5.Does the software use any authentication ?

No.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp on Windows slow to install

2021-02-12 Thread Jernej Simončič via gimp-developer-list
On Friday, February 12, 2021, 11:11:25, Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list 
wrote:

> I noticed that GIMP is, by far, the slowest app to install on Windows.
> _Much_ slower than, for instance, LibreOffice that is about 1/3 bigger.
> Why is it so? Perhaps a too aggressive compression of the package?

Very aggressive compression, and GIMP's install size is almost twice as large 
as that of LibreOffice. Probably the biggest reason for slow install is because 
both 32 and 64-bit versions are in the same installer, and when doing a 64-bit 
install, a lot of 32-bit version is also installed; I've been meaning to look 
into optimizing this, but haven't gotten around to do it yet.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] How to compile a vala GIMP plugin on Windows pc?

2020-12-28 Thread Jernej Simončič via gimp-developer-list
On Monday, December 28, 2020, 06:50:54, Pen Guin via gimp-developer-list wrote:

> I want to compile the goat-exercise vala plugin shipped with GIMP.  Can
> anyone please tell me how can I compile a vala plugin on my pc? What other
> softwares AND/OR dependent-files do I need to download? What command and
> attributes do I need to pass to the vala compiler to get a working exe
> without any errors?

You will have to install MSys2 from <https://www.msys2.org>, and then set up 
environment inside MSys2 - install GTK+ 3, gegl, babl etc. You can then follow 
the guides for compiling GIMP on Linux.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Offering help

2020-10-09 Thread Jernej Simončič via gimp-developer-list
On Friday, October 9, 2020, 12:39:21, Alexandre Prokoudine via 
gimp-developer-list wrote:

> I guess the first step would be building GIMP from source code. We
> typically do it n Linux with Mingw, but I know there's some work going
> on to try doing this with MSYS2. At least that's my impression from
> quick glances on our IRC channel.

The official Windows build is done on MSYS2.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Symantec reports a virus when downloading 2.10 for Windows

2018-05-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, May 7, 2018, 12:24:59, Casper Børgesen wrote:

> I expect the your file to be fine and Symantec to falsely detect it as
> containing a virus.

We can't do anything about that - report the problem to Symantec or
switch to a less broken security product.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Installing Gimp on windows xp

2016-12-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, December 29, 2016, 21:21:48, Tom McCarthy wrote:

> Installed but brushes were causing it to crash during 1st launch.
> Should we be using an older version of Gimp? Thank you in advance

2.8.18 should still work on XP. Note that you need a CPU with SSE3
support (this means some Pentiums 4 and Athlons64 won't work) due to a
problem with compilation environment (this should be solved in the
next release.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-10-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On 10. oktober 2016, 11:28:11, Kevin Payne wrote:

>   As I don't have a high density display and was therefore not able
> to finish the themes properly, would you like to take ownership and complete 
> the job?

I never actually tried doing any styling, but looking at the GTK+
documentation, it appears that one of my complaints (spinbutton
thickness) apparently can't be fixed (and looking at a normal-density
screen, the arrows are very narrow there, too, at least with the
MS-Windows theme), while the checkboxes can be fixed by adding

  GtkCheckButton::indicator-size = 20
  GtkRadioButton::indicator-size = 20

The rest of the theme is fine as far as I can see (except I'd probably
comment out the font_name = "sans, 11" line, and let the MS-Windows
theme take care of this - at least on Windows; I've no idea if this is
needed on *nix).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] scaling issue with Windows 10

2016-10-09 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, October 9, 2016, 15:09:43, willmarti...@gmail.com wrote:

> How can I do to use Gimp with a proper display?

This should probably be added to FAQ (if the theme shouldn't be
included in installer outright):

Download the Color-48 theme from
<https://bitbucket.org/paynekj/paynekj-gimp-scripts/src/2e8e87faf5eaaf6036e0d8b68ff9f6f37a3f0421/themes/?at=default>
and extract it to C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\themes, then in
GIMP go to Preferences -> Themes, select Color-48 theme, click OK and
restart GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-27 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, September 23, 2016, 15:31:18, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote:

> GTK2 on a retina display sucks because it isn't handling the hight DPI 
> properly.
> When Inkscape/GIMP get ported to GTK3, his complaint hopefully disappears.

I've got a 5k monitor on my Windows machine now, and after installing
the Color-48 theme from
<https://bitbucket.org/paynekj/paynekj-gimp-scripts/src/2e8e87faf5eaaf6036e0d8b68ff9f6f37a3f0421/themes/?at=default>,
GIMP is completely usable (maybe the theme could be shipped with GIMP
to address this issue?). It's not perfect - the spinbuttons are very
narrow, and checkboxes are small, but the rest of the elements work
fine.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Citrix use of Gimp

2016-05-05 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 21:04:24, Stephen Romanowski wrote:

> Is there any experience or documentation on using this with terminal services 
> such as Citrix?

I only know of people using GIMP in Microsoft's Remote Desktop
(Terminal Services) environment, where it works fine as long as colour
depth is 32-bit (16-bit colour depth may or may not work - some people
reported crashes).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] xdg-app; was: WGO Transition Meeting

2015-11-18 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, November 18, 2015, 15:09:56, Elle Stone wrote:

> I run IceWM instead of a full desktop, so there are only two gnome 
> dependencies.

IceWM still works for you? I used it in a VNC session on my server,
but replaced it with LXDE because it kept breaking too frequently.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] wtf with the download?

2015-05-31 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, May 31, 2015, 19:09:53, C R wrote:

 Ah, works fine in Iceweasel 24.3.0... freakish.
 Oh well. Unfortunately, the packages for 38.0.1 aren't there for Ubuntu
 14.04 yet. May try to compile it form source later, but out of time today
 unfortunately.

It doesn't break for me on Firefox 38.0.1, at least not unless I zoom
in to 140% or more.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows 8.1

2015-04-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On 12. april 2015, 9:14:59, Mukund Sivaraman wrote:

 GIMP plug-ins are regular programs not DLLs, and they are executed by
 GIMP. You can check the paths to these in the pluginrc that is typically
 stored in %appdata%\Roaming.

Not only I'm aware of that, but this is the sole reason for the
problems I described. If they were DLLs, we wouldn't have these
problems, since the required libraries would've already been loaded by
GIMP.

 I suspect that this person has not set PATH. For example, the nightly
 builds from darkrefraction.com just extract the tree of files and expect
 a user to run the run_gimp.bat batch file (which sets PATH). If one
 were to run gimp-2.9.exe directly in this case, the plug-ins that link
 to DLLs would not find them (e.g., the file format ones that look for
 libpng, libtiff, libjpeg, etc.).

Like I said, if something put an older version of a DLL GIMP's plugins
use to System32, PATH won't matter, as it's only checked after
System32.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows 8.1

2015-04-11 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, April 11, 2015, 19:07:16, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

 This is Windows 8.1, As I already said, your installer puts all the
 .dll files in the bin folder. They won't work there. I have to move
 all of them to the Windows/System32 folder where they belong.

 Now, as some of team members pointed out, System32 sounds like he's on
 Windows 98 (with Windows 95 habits) rather than on 8.1. But is it
 correct to out .dll files there? And if it is, why would GIMP not work
 then?

System32 is only intended for libraries that are part of the OS. Any
installer that puts it's own DLLs there is broken.

The problem here is that while gimp.exe and it's libraries are in
bin\, the plugins are in lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins\. GIMP does set the
environment to have bin\ directory in PATH, but if there's a DLL with
the same name as one used by plug-ins in System32, it'll take
precedence (DLL search order on Windows is executable directory,
System32 [SysWOW64 for 32-bit programs on 64-bit Windows], System,
Windows, current directory, %PATH%).

Since System32 has precedence over %PATH%, the plugins may stop
working if an older version of library is installed in System32. For
this reason, I suggest that once the plugin API is broken (GIMP 3?)
that the plugins on Windows move to the bin\ directory, possibly with
a different extension than .exe (or maybe a double extension -
.plugin.exe?). This way they'll always use the libraries that ship
with GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Floyd-Steinberg/GIF color optimization

2014-10-21 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, 17:04:14, Robert Hanson wrote:

 The problem comes when I have a small molecule with not too many colors. If
 I go just over 256, then the FS algorithm cuts this down to something like
 64 colors. I'm wondering if I could get some advise as to how to optimize a
 set of colors down to 255 colors without undershooting in such a dramatic
 way while still using FS.

In my opinion, the colour reduction algorithm in GIMP 1.2 produces
better results than the algorithm in GIMP 2.x.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Texttool Native Language

2014-09-26 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, September 26, 2014, 22:12:15, Partha Bagchi wrote:

 Does this not imply that if my keyboard is inputting a specific series
 of 2-byte characters, Gimp should display those characters? In other
 words, if the keyboard is mapped to specific character set, should it
 not be displaying those characters?

To put it simply: if you want č to appear, you have to press č on your
keyboard. If you want 红 to appear, you have to have the correct IME
and enter the characters required for 红 to appear. If you type This
is a test, you'll get This is a test on the screen, as long as the
font has Latin characters mapped properly (which nearly all fonts do).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Trojan in download

2014-06-27 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, June 27, 2014, 18:30:44, Lars Frank wrote:

 When I tried to download GIMP for Windows from the download page, 
 http://www.gimp.org/downloads/
 my antivirus, AVG, detected a Trojan Horse, Crypt3.AAOY , in the
 .exe-file. I thought that you wanted to know this.

 If there are any way to download GIMP for Windows without getting
 the trojan, I would be glad to know it!

Check the digital signature of the downloaded file (right-click the
installer, Properties, Digital signatures tab, double-click my name).
If the digital signature is valid (and dated November 30th 2013), your
antivirus is spewing crap.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Win RT

2013-12-28 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, December 26, 2013, 2:20:14, ptr.cho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there any chance to develop gimp for windows rt. Please. I would
 have no problem even to pay for it

Not really, mostly due to RT only allowing modern-style applications
only, which would require pretty much a complete rewrite of both GIMP,
and the libraries it depends on.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] System requirements

2013-12-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 9, 2013, 16:14:02, Erwin van Wilpe wrote:

 Is it possible to run GIMP with Windows server 2008R2?

Yes. Note that if you intend to run it in a terminal server
environment, ensure that clients connect in 32-bit colour mode,
otherwise you'll have stability problems.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Updating gimp-win.sourceforge.net and Sourceforge old page as deprecated.

2013-12-02 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, December 2, 2013, 0:25:11, Jehan Pagès wrote:

 Could whoever has admin right on this Sourceforge project add like a
 big red message or something saying all these installers are old and
 this page deprecated and redirect them to the new installer page?

Unfortunately, there isn't much that can be done with the project
pages.

 2) Also the page http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net has been updated with
 a link to gimp.org and a message. Nevertheless if you were to browse
 and go to the FAQ page, the Download button would be bad again and
 link to the old Sourceforge page, which is wrong:
 http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/faq.html

I removed the Project page and Releases links from FAQ. The Download
page already links to gimp.org.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] List of dependencies (versions and configuration options) for GIMP on Windows

2013-09-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, September 22, 2013, 10:16:11, Jehan Pagès wrote:

 Anyway the user says this was working fine on GIMP 2.8.4, but not on
 GIMP 2.8.6. So I compiled GIMP master, GIMP 2.8.6, 2.8.4 and even
 older versions. I also tried older versions of pango, freetype, etc.
 Well I never was able to have this work on Windows.
 Would you mind telling me exactly the list of dependencies included in
 your builds, their versions and the configure options?

Uhh, that's a bit hard - I only build GIMP myself, and use binaries
from OpenSuSE build service
(http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/windows:/mingw:/) for all
dependencies (which I normally update before each build).

I've given up trying to manage dependencies myself a long time ago. I
use the following two scripts to get them automatically:
http://eternallybored.org/misc/gimp/grab-stuff.sh
https://github.com/mkbosmans/download-mingw-rpm

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Changing the size of the open file dialog on Windows

2013-04-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, April 25, 2013, 22:39:25, Ofnuts wrote:

 But I cannot find the equivalent file (or location for the same file) on
 Windows. I have tried various GTK-related places in the Gimp 
 installation tree, the Gimp profile directory, and or the user home 
 directory without success. Is this possible at all?

Look in %APPDATA%\gtk-2.0 (note: you won't be able to edit the file
with Notepad).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Request: Choose different installation path

2013-02-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, February 10, 2013, 14:44:26, scl wrote:

 Hi,

 in the Download section of a German computer magazine page [1]
 I found the wish to choose GIMPs installation path.
 I also think this is a good idea, for instance to have two GIMP
 installations in parallel for regression testing.
 Unfortunately the Windows installer doesn't provide an option for this,
 neither in the default nor in the customized installation.
 Before filing an enhancement request in Bugzilla I ask you:
 how do you think about it? Would this be a nice feature?

My installer allows you to change the installation directory if GIMP
isn't already installed (if it is, the current version will be
upgraded).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp build for Windows

2013-01-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, January 12, 2013, 22:32:15, pavel wrote:

 The idea about creating my own installer came from some forums where
 I've got an impression that there is no 64bit version of Gimp for
 Windows at the moment, or is unstable or buggy. Then I realized that
 there is something, so I will postpone this effort.

Since GIMP 2.8.0, the installer on http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/
(which is also linked from gimp.org) contains both 32 and 64-bit
version of GIMP, and automatically installs the correct one for the
system (and when 64-bit version is installed, it by default also
includes libraries to support 32-bit plug-ins).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] download.dk - malicious or just sub-par?

2012-12-20 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:38:26 +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote:

 we've been approached by download.dk about an award GIMP seems to have won 
 on their site. They suggested to add this award to www.gimp.org with the 
 usual link back to their site...

There's a ton of these site and software awards around, and none of them
are any good. I'm actually surprised that it took so long for GIMP to be
noticed...

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Re: [Gimp-developer] A little truble with the mailing list

2012-11-28 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 17:19:14, Dima Ursu wrote:

 I have a little trouble with the mailing list: whenever I write a replay
 (pressing replay to list in thunderbird) I don't see after that my 
 message in the thread: what is the matter?

GMail - it hides your own messages.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Spanish translation of Windows installer

2012-10-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, October 14, 2012, 20:54:45, Aliet Exposito wrote:

 here is the Spanish translation: es.setup.isl
 I used 'es' as the language identifier as in 'Español'

I uploaded a new installer with Spanish, Brazillian Portuguese and
Russian translations included to
http://eternallybored.org/misc/gimp/gimp-2.8.2-setup-transl.exe

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Lack of TWAIN scanner dialogue

2012-10-18 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, October 18, 2012, 10:14:29, Gordon Edwards wrote:

 So, is there any way we can get The GIMP to give us acess to the 
 TWAIN driver? This would really be peachy-keen if it can be done.

That's strange, GIMP only supports TWAIN (and the WIA interface you're
seeing is a TWAIN-to-WIA bridge provided by Microsoft).

Which GIMP installer did you use - from
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ (also linked from
http://www.gimp.org/), or Partha's? My installer will normally install
a 32-bit TWAIN plug-in for GIMP (even on x64 Windows), because there
are almost no 64-bit TWAIN drivers, and you should be able to use
every TWAIN driver you have installed (both TWAIN drivers for my HP
5590 are shown, and a separate WIA stub).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Translate the Windows installer packages of GIMP 2.8.x

2012-10-15 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:05:32 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

 I've just comitted translations to Brazilian Portuguese there -
 but it ocurred me: Are the codes the same? he ISO translations code
 used elsewhere for my language is pt_BR -- will
 pt_BR.setup.isl work for the Windows part?

It doesn't matter what you name it as - I have to include the translation
manually in the script file anyway. Of course, it helps if it's named after
the language :)

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Translate the Windows installer packages of GIMP 2.8.x

2012-10-15 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, October 15, 2012, 17:19:26, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

 it would be possible for me to create a Python script to to convert
 these files from and to
 regular .po files -  do you (all of you, not Jernej) think  it could
 be worth it?

Sure, just remember that the output .isl files must be in the Windows
ANSI encoding for that language.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Translate the Windows installer packages of GIMP 2.8.x

2012-10-15 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, October 15, 2012, 18:09:49, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

 Eeek - - I just comitted today's translations in utf-8 --
 do yopu confirm they should be in cp1252 (iso-8859-15) instead?

cp1252 is correct for Brazilian Portuguese (ISO-8859-anything is not,
though usually they'll work, as they're just a subset of cp*).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Translate the Windows installer packages of GIMP 2.8.x

2012-10-13 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, October 14, 2012, 0:24:59, wwp wrote:

 Is there a deadline for an incoming release, BTW?

Anything that's submitted before the next GIMP release will be
included in the installer.

Also, here's a program I made a long long time ago for translating
Inno Setup language files:
http://eternallybored.org/misc/translator/tr1.32.60-vbrun-setup.exe

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Re: [Gimp-developer] XDG support and better Windows configuration path

2012-10-11 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, October 11, 2012, 0:12:32, Michael Natterer wrote:

 WIN: APPDATA/GIMP/GIMP_APP_VERSION

Sounds great to me.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] News of a new image enhancement algorithm ...

2012-08-22 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, August 23, 2012, 0:01:04, sam tygier wrote:

 Some of those enhancements are incredible (in a literal sense of
 the word). specifically the final MC Escher(esq) towers.

I found the eye chart the most incredible:
http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~vision/SingleImageSR.html#auto_img_eye_chart

Look at the bottom row.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] translations

2012-08-20 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, August 20, 2012, 2:26:20, wanderer wrote:

 There's some way for me to test how my text will appear on the installer?

Not easily, but possible: first you'll have to install Inno Setup
(Unicode version) from http://www.jrsoftware.org/.

Next, check out the entire installer directory from git, and open
gimp3264.iss in Inno Setup. Scroll down to the [Languages] section,
and add your language there - the line should look something like
this:

Name: pt; MessagesFile: compiler:Languages\Portuguese.isl,lang\pt.setup.isl

(the compiler: prefix means that the main language file will be loaded
from Inno Setup's installation directory).

Press F9, and a testing installer will be created and run (the
installer won't include any files, but other than that it'll behave
identically to the normal installer). Later, if you change the
language file, recompile the installer with Ctrl+F9 before running it
with F9.

If you notice any problems that you can't fix yourself (eg. string
that doesn't fit), notify me, and I'll see if I can adjust the
windows.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows build

2012-08-01 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 1:55:52, Jari Niskala wrote:

 Now to the question. I managed to build the 2.8.0 release from sources for
 Win32 (using MinGW) but I'm trying to figure out why my build is quite
 large, ~32MB, compared to the official Windows build coming in around 5MB.
 This is for the executable but I'm also seeing larger gimp dlls.

The official builds are stripped to external .debug files. If you
don't care about debug information, you can just run strip on
executables and DLLs, or you could just move the debug info to
separate files with these two commands (run them from the root of
install prefix):

  find \( -iname '*.dll' -or -iname '*.exe' -or -iname '*.pyd' \) -type f -exec 
x86_64-w64-mingw32-objcopy -v --only-keep-debug '{}' '{}'.debug \;
  find \( -iname '*.dll' -or -iname '*.exe' -or -iname '*.pyd' \) -type f -exec 
x86_64-w64-mingw32-objcopy -v --add-gnu-debuglink='{}'.debug '{}' 
--strip-unneeded \;

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Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, July 30, 2012, 9:06:53, Malix wrote:

 Switching to new build system should not be linked to the fact that the
 former does not work, but to the best that the new works.

Except that looking at CMake documentation, it makes cross-compiling
GIMP much more complicated that it's at the moment.

 Qt is a great library. Yes is C++ but dosen't require rewriting GIMP but
 only the user interface. But as already said I shot too high :-)

...which still requires that nearly everything is rewritten anyway.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote:

 CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so unless you 
 meant
 GNU Automake, that's not the issue. CMake can also generate project files for
 other IDEs and support some other build-systems, all from the same sources, so
 in this respect it is far superior to GNU Autohell.

How well does CMake handle cross-compiling? I recently had to compile
a few projects that didn't use autotools, and getting them to
cross-compile wasn't fun (one of those made some very wrong
assumptions about Windows as well, which didn't help either).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] self-compiled git gimp 2.9 complains about old babl version

2012-07-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, July 28, 2012, 23:54:31, Guiu Rocafort wrote:

 Any idea about what can be wrong ?

If you compiled babl yourself, it probably ended up in /usr/local/lib,
which is searched after /usr/lib - try running GIMP from terminal like
this:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib gimp-2.9

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Re: [Gimp-developer] the Gimp lcms.c plug-in

2012-07-24 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 23:37:16, Elle Stone wrote:

 In particular, by what process does Gimp get patched to use lcms2? ( I
 kinda doubt that the Gimp developers are going to let Elle Stone patch
 Gimp, as the chances are very great that Elle Stone would break Gimp
 in the process.)

If you started by checking out the source from git, just run
  git diff  lcms2.patch

If you instead used the source tarball, it's a bit more work.

If you only changed a single file, the simplest way to create a patch
is to get the copy of original file, put it in the same directory as
the changed file with a different extension (eg. file.c.orig), then
create a patch like this:

  diff -u file.c.orig file.c  lcms2.patch

If you modified several files, it's slightly more involved: you will
need a clean source tree (from the source tarball), and your patched
version, each in it's own subdirectory. You should run make distclean
in your tree (if you compiled from it), to ensure that none of the
files that get generated during build are left behind. Assuming the
clean tree is in gimp-2.8.0.orig/, and your patched version is in
gimp-2.8.0/, you create the patch with:

  diff -Naur gimp-2.8.0.orig gimp-2.8.0  lcms2.patch

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 13:25:21, Michael Schumacher wrote:

 I don't see any English menu entries in 2.8.0 on Windows, except
 for third-party scripts and plug-ins - and that is expected.

There's a problem with Python scripts on 64bit Windows currently -
they always appear in English.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 14:47:53, Michael Schumacher wrote:

 Some of these scripts seem to include untranslated strings.

It happens even with those that have translations.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Save defaults not working?

2012-05-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, May 12, 2012, 14:20:02, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

 btw, new jpeg defaults are much, much better than 2.6s but imo the 
 progressive option shouldn't be on. It makes the file size a tad larger
 and it isn't always needed. Is there any special reason for using that
 option as default?

In my experience, the majority of images become smaller when you save
them as progressive.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] XP SP3 requirement?

2012-05-07 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, May 7, 2012, 15:45:13, Jeremy Morton wrote:

 The GTK+ and GIMP installers for Windows project is listed as 
 GPL-licensed on Sourceforge, but I can't seem to find the source files
 used to make the latest GIMP-2.8 installer.  Could you tell me where I
 can get them?  For example, where the latest Inno Setup ISS script is?

Oops, I forgot to upload the new script - it's now up (though the only
changes from the 2.7.4 script are check for SSE and cleanup of a few
obsolete plugins from 2.6).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-web: Update the Windows download link to gimp-2.8.0

2012-05-06 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, May 6, 2012, 16:21:36, Detlef Riekenberg wrote:

 -lia
 href=http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gimp-win/gimp-2.6.12-i686-setup-2.exe;Download
 GIMP 2.6.12/a ndash; Installer for Windows XP SP2 or later/li

BTW, I bumped the minimum requirement to XP SP3.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] the indexed mode implementation

2012-04-08 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, April 8, 2012, 17:37:43, Bill Skaggs wrote:

 Dithering is not really where the problem lies, it's in finding a good
 colormap.  Gimp's algorithm was developed a long time ago, by Adam
 Moss, who put a great deal of effort into it. 

Speaking of finding a good colormap, I still think that GIMP 1.2
produces better results than GIMP 2 on most images.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Postscript 64-bit

2012-03-11 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, March 11, 2012, 22:37:24, Partha Bagchi wrote:

 Finally, Ender, can you help or are you aware of this issue?
 I didn't see any replies from him here. So perhaps he is busy.

I haven't tried building with ghostscript yet.

 I wonder why tiff 4.0.1 is failing on my builds. Has anyone tested
 tiff 4.0.1 on a Linux machine to confirm this?

This seems to be a Windows-specific problem. I've got GIMP 2.6.12
built against libtiff-5.dll (ver. 4.0.0), and it doesn't load any tiff
files, while GIMP 2.6.12 on Linux built against libtiff.so.5.0.5
(version 4.0.0-r1, gentoo) works fine.

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