Re: [Gimp-user] transparent png's

2003-06-08 Thread David selby
David selby wrote:

Jakub Steiner wrote:

On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 22:31, David selby wrote:



However if I draw in gimp and save as png, all is ok in linux browsers
(all of them!) but it does not work in IE
Any ideas how to streamline this so I can save from gimp and it all 
work ?

IE on windows doesn't render RGBA PNGs properly (unless you want to use
this kludge:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294714). You
can use 1bit transparency PNG similar to what GIF provides. In GIMP
index the colors before saving as PNGs (You don't need to do this for
GIFs, because Gimp does it for you, GIFs can't be RGBA).
cheers



Yuk what a kludge !, pitty they didn't write IE right in the first 
place !, opps sorry Linux demon comming out !

Many thanks for the tip, I will try as you say and index first.
Dave
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Yep indexing before saving does the trick, full transparency in IE 98SE

Thanks
Dave
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Re: [Gimp-user] Handling EXIF embedded data in Gimp

2003-06-08 Thread Steve Crane
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 05:38:34PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> In the meantime, is there anything that could extract the EXIM info,
> then be used to add it back afterwards?

I recently downloaded EXIFutils[1], a collection of console utilities for
working with EXIF information.  They seem very powerful and I have only
used the tiniest fraction of their capabilities.  To do what you need
one simply keeps a copy of the original jpeg form the camera and then
transfers the EXIF information from it to the manipulated image with the
command

  exifcopy  

These tools are not free but they do work in a limited way without being
registered.  The command above works fine without registering.  I have
also used the exiflist command to view the EXIF information.

Another utility that you might look at is jhead[2].  It seems less
powerful than EXIFutils but it is free.

[1] http://www.hugsan.com/EXIFutils/
[2] http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/
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Re: [Gimp-user] Handling EXIF embedded data in Gimp

2003-06-08 Thread David C P Gray
Hi,

On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 17:38, William Kenworthy wrote:
> In the meantime, is there anything that could extract the EXIM info,
> then be used to add it back afterwards?

I found a short list of tools at:
http://www.shallowsky.com/limaging.html

I use metacam, try a couple and see what works best for you.

Cheers,
David.
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[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] makes it sense to add native CMYK support toGIMP?

2003-06-08 Thread Marco Wessel

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Helvetix Victorinox wrote:

> This may be entirely my deficiency, but I am unclear on the general
> usefulness of having a native CMYK implementation.  On one hand I
> understand that there is a perceived value of working with the four
> values, on the other hand I think we expose too much of the underlying
> guts of the colour implemetation and gamuts to the poor user already.
>
> [snip]
>
> A contribution here would be the development of a good colour abstraction
> interface.  Let the user choose things like if the image is a COLOR image
> or a Black and White image (GRAY), with or without transparency.  None of
> this business of values like 255 (white in 8bit rgb).  Naturally there
> will be people who want access to the underlying knobs and switches,
> and that's okay. But we ought to at least put a cover over it.
>
> I think CMYK ought to be a Save As option (as appropriate).
>
> Helvetix
>

I disagree. I hate it when software shields away the more advanced
features. It is adjusting to the user, while the user should be adjusting
to software instead. More than that, it's not adjusting to the correct
user.

Marco Wessel

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Re: [Gimp-user] Handling EXIF embedded data in Gimp

2003-06-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In the meantime, is there anything that could extract the EXIM info,
> then be used to add it back afterwards?

bins does a good job at extracting the EXIF info into XML files. No
idea if there's a tool to put it back as well.


Sven

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Re: [Gimp-user] problem w/assigning keys in 1.3.13

2003-06-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

"Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I can't assign the following Alt-key shortcuts to menu items in 1.3.13.
>
> Alt-s
> Alt-i
> Alt-d
> Alt-v
> Alt-e
> Alt-r
> Alt-f
> Alt-t
> Alt-l

You better not use Alt for shortcuts since the Alt key is used for
mnemonics.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] makes it sense to add native CMYK support toGIMP?

2003-06-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

"Stefan Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am a computer science student looking for a final year project. I'd love
> to do something in the Open Source community and I am looking around where
> my help might be needed. Having a little interest in graphics design and
> prepress, I came across GIMP and CMYK support. The little research I've done
> gives me the impression that over the last couple of years it's regularly
> been asked for and it might be an important feature to get GIMP into the
> pre-press world.
>
> What I'd like to know is the following:
> 1. Is anybody actually working on this? There were hints now and then that
> people are thinking about it, but I didn't find anything definite, apart
> from an entry "Additional ColorModels" on the GEGL todo list
> (http://developer.gimp.org/gegl-todo.html) that seems to point in that
> direction.

I'd suggest you help to integrate CMYK support with proper color
management into GEGL. The GIMP itself is almost feature-frozen and we
are working hard at getting it released. That's probably not a good
time to integrate CMYK support. We do hope however that GEGL will be
ready for consumption when the release is out so that we can start to
integrate it.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Handling EXIF embedded data in Gimp

2003-06-08 Thread William Kenworthy
In the meantime, is there anything that could extract the EXIM info,
then be used to add it back afterwards?

BillK

On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 17:06, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 06:23, David C P Gray wrote:
> > I am using Gimp to post-process digital photographs. The camera is
> > embedding EXIF data in the JPEG images that I would like to preserve,
> > but the Gimp is stripping this when it writes the modified images.
> 
> This is a known issue.
> 
> > Any ideas whether EXIF awareness in JPEG images is available now or in
> > the development pipeline?
> 
> EXIF-awareness has not been implemented yet (as can also be seen on
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56443), but hopefully it will
> be in a too distant future.
> 
> Sincerely,
> ./Brix
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[Gimp-user] Re: makes it sense to add native CMYK support to GIMP?

2003-06-08 Thread Carol Spears
i am sorry, i didn't attach your letter like i should have.  i hope that
TheGIMP continues to support methods that are accessible to everyone.

There has been a thorough discussion of how to publish with linux and
cmyk issues.  My friend took the right path to printing and still got
bitched at by the printer for not using a mac.  I think they had to do
a conversion anyways.

I am sick of this issue, personally.  

I don't understand software development, but it seems like if it is
needed it gets built.  Gimp has been publishing and analysing xrays and
such for a very long time, in computer years.

If you need it, if you want it, build it.

I prefer that the printers catch up to modern technology.  For the
prices they ask, i think they are lagging.

my 21 cents worth
carol


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[Gimp-user] makes it sense to add native CMYK support to GIMP?

2003-06-08 Thread Stefan Klein
Hi all,

I am a computer science student looking for a final year project. I'd love
to do something in the Open Source community and I am looking around where
my help might be needed. Having a little interest in graphics design and
prepress, I came across GIMP and CMYK support. The little research I've done
gives me the impression that over the last couple of years it's regularly
been asked for and it might be an important feature to get GIMP into the
pre-press world.

What I'd like to know is the following:
1. Is anybody actually working on this? There were hints now and then that
people are thinking about it, but I didn't find anything definite, apart
from an entry "Additional ColorModels" on the GEGL todo list
(http://developer.gimp.org/gegl-todo.html) that seems to point in that
direction.
2. How important is this really? What I am talking about is native CMYK
support, not just a conversion function. There was a thread on the
developers-list in November 2001
(http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01350.
html) that gives the impression that it might not be all that important and
that there might be cheaper workarounds (converting when saving, spot color
channels). How important is a CMYK mode for people working in prepress?
3. Any guesses on the effort to implement this?

I'd appreciate it if you could answer asap, since I have to hand in my
project proposals very shortly.
Thanks
Stefan


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Re: [Gimp-user] Handling EXIF embedded data in Gimp

2003-06-08 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 06:23, David C P Gray wrote:
> I am using Gimp to post-process digital photographs. The camera is
> embedding EXIF data in the JPEG images that I would like to preserve,
> but the Gimp is stripping this when it writes the modified images.

This is a known issue.

> Any ideas whether EXIF awareness in JPEG images is available now or in
> the development pipeline?

EXIF-awareness has not been implemented yet (as can also be seen on
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56443), but hopefully it will
be in a too distant future.

Sincerely,
./Brix
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