[Gimp-user] Removing the crop frame

2004-08-07 Thread Justin Gombos
I've been motivated to join this list by a problem that's been driving
me nuts.  At some point I activated a yellow and black crop frame, and
it seems there is no way to turn it off.  I would at least expect
SELECT::NONE to do it, but that only unmarks regions other than the
crop region.  I'm about to trash this image and start over just to get
rid of the crop box.  It cuts off everything that crosses the line.
The reset button in the crop tool window does not work.  If I set the
origin of the crop tool to 0,0 and set the offsets to the image size,
it's only temporary for that command, and the old crop region
continues to cut things off.

It seems there is a different cut-out box for each layer.

Any ideas?
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[Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-07 Thread Justin Gombos
* Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-07 06:59]:
 
 Yellow and black crop frame? That's the border of the active layer,
 not at all related to crop.

Thanks for clearing that up - and thanks to those who privately
replied.  I guess I discovered the layer border at the same time I was
playing with crop.  And to add to the confusion, floating layers were
trimming my image at the border, as if to be cropping.  So I've spent
a maddening few hours trying to use crop to manipulate what was really
a layer border.  For the record, the solution is to do a layer to
imagesize.

As a suggestion to any developers who may be following this thread, it
would be really nice if there were a mouse-over that tells the user
that the yellow/black line is a layer border.  I then guess that would
annoy the users who already know what it is.  

Maybe a novice mode w/ mouse-overs?  I know a photoshop user who is an
open-source gnu fanatic, and really wants to switch to gimp, but
insists that gimp is too difficult to use, and has some missing
functionality.  There's a good chance that the missing functionality
is really a case of him not finding it.  

Anyway, thanks to all who helped.  Besides this issue, I've been quite
pleased with gimp.
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Re: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Justin Gombos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As a suggestion to any developers who may be following this thread,
 it would be really nice if there were a mouse-over that tells the
 user that the yellow/black line is a layer border.  I then guess
 that would annoy the users who already know what it is.

Tooltips on the image window would indeed be very very annoying.
 
 Maybe a novice mode w/ mouse-overs? 

I don't think so. But it would be nice if the help files explained
this detail better. Perhaps you want to add a comment about this to
http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpDocs or perhaps even contribute a
section to the docs?


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-07 Thread Alan Horkan

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004, Sven Neumann wrote:

 Date: 07 Aug 2004 18:05:37 +0200
 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Justin Gombos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

 Hi,

 Justin Gombos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  As a suggestion to any developers who may be following this thread,
  it would be really nice if there were a mouse-over that tells the
  user that the yellow/black line is a layer border.  I then guess
  that would annoy the users who already know what it is.

 Tooltips on the image window would indeed be very very annoying.

The status bar could probably be used more often to provide more
information in general.

For targets as small as the layer boundary neither tooltips nor status bar
messages are a great solution though.

- Alan
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