Re: [Gimp-user] Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

2005-05-03 Thread Carol Spears
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:10:33AM +, Kent Tong wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We're an organization promoting open source in Macau. We're considering
> whether to organize some training courses on GIMP or not. Before that, 
> we'd like to evaluate how powerful GIMP is when compared to Photoshop. 
> We're not insisting that it must be as powerful as Photoshop. We just 
> need a clear idea on its power. 
> 
> As I'm not a graphics guy, I've got a colleague to do some initial 
> evaluation. As my colleague has a strong photoshop background but is 
> just getting started with GIMP, I'd like to have the confirmation from 
> someone like you with strong GIMP experience. So, would you please
> comment on my colleague's finding below? Thanks in advance!
> 
> Disadvantage of GIMP
> - Text tool
> -- Can't display Chinese in the "GIMP Text Editor"
> -- Can't control indivitual text format in the same Text. (The format applies 
> to
> the whole text)
> -- Compare to PhotoShop, creating text effect is difficult. Photoshop built in
> text effects. GIMP can only use the filter or script-fu to create effect. 

this reflects the limitations in access TheGIMP has had to fonts.  By
the time you have permission to use them and access to how they are
made, if you are using linux you will respect the people who made the
fonts.

if photoshop had been designed to respect the font and the font author,
the disadvantage would be equal.  photoshop was designed to encourage
people to purchase fonts from adobe, perhaps.

> -- Compare to PhotoShop, text effect will still be apply even the Text is
> changed. But you need to do everything again if you text need to be changed.
> -- Can't display Chinese font in the font selection list.
> 
> - Layers control
> -- Can't display Chinese in the Layer.
> -- Compare to PhotoShop, managing the layers is not that easy. You can define
> layers to groups in Photoshop. You can even target an action to a group. No
> group idea in GIMP.
> 
it is interesting that photoshop is considered to have better layers
control than gimp.  if you use gimp more you will see who has the real
control of them.

most people who use photoshop think it is the right and best way.  it
might be less expensive to get rid of them also and pay someone to help
with the chinese text.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

2005-05-03 Thread j Mak
Most of the things you are saying is true. I am not
sure though about the support for Chinese fonts.
Handling layers in Gimp is as easy as in Photoshop.
You can group them but you cannot clip them as in
Photoshop to create clipping mask.
What I am missing from Gimp is the Photoshop-like
layer effects and the Adjustment layer. These would be
more useful additions than the text effects you
mentioned.

jozsefmak


--- Kent Tong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We're an organization promoting open source in
> Macau. We're considering
> whether to organize some training courses on GIMP or
> not. Before that, 
> we'd like to evaluate how powerful GIMP is when
> compared to Photoshop. 
> We're not insisting that it must be as powerful as
> Photoshop. We just 
> need a clear idea on its power. 
> 
> As I'm not a graphics guy, I've got a colleague to
> do some initial 
> evaluation. As my colleague has a strong photoshop
> background but is 
> just getting started with GIMP, I'd like to have the
> confirmation from 
> someone like you with strong GIMP experience. So,
> would you please
> comment on my colleague's finding below? Thanks in
> advance!
> 
> Disadvantage of GIMP
> - Text tool
> -- Can't display Chinese in the "GIMP Text Editor"
> -- Can't control indivitual text format in the same
> Text. (The format applies to
> the whole text)
> -- Compare to PhotoShop, creating text effect is
> difficult. Photoshop built in
> text effects. GIMP can only use the filter or
> script-fu to create effect. 
> -- Compare to PhotoShop, text effect will still be
> apply even the Text is
> changed. But you need to do everything again if you
> text need to be changed.
> -- Can't display Chinese font in the font selection
> list.
> 
> - Layers control
> -- Can't display Chinese in the Layer.
> -- Compare to PhotoShop, managing the layers is not
> that easy. You can define
> layers to groups in Photoshop. You can even target
> an action to a group. No
> group idea in GIMP.
> 
> 
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[Gimp-user] Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

2005-05-03 Thread Kent Tong
Hi,

We're an organization promoting open source in Macau. We're considering
whether to organize some training courses on GIMP or not. Before that, 
we'd like to evaluate how powerful GIMP is when compared to Photoshop. 
We're not insisting that it must be as powerful as Photoshop. We just 
need a clear idea on its power. 

As I'm not a graphics guy, I've got a colleague to do some initial 
evaluation. As my colleague has a strong photoshop background but is 
just getting started with GIMP, I'd like to have the confirmation from 
someone like you with strong GIMP experience. So, would you please
comment on my colleague's finding below? Thanks in advance!

Disadvantage of GIMP
- Text tool
-- Can't display Chinese in the "GIMP Text Editor"
-- Can't control indivitual text format in the same Text. (The format applies to
the whole text)
-- Compare to PhotoShop, creating text effect is difficult. Photoshop built in
text effects. GIMP can only use the filter or script-fu to create effect. 
-- Compare to PhotoShop, text effect will still be apply even the Text is
changed. But you need to do everything again if you text need to be changed.
-- Can't display Chinese font in the font selection list.

- Layers control
-- Can't display Chinese in the Layer.
-- Compare to PhotoShop, managing the layers is not that easy. You can define
layers to groups in Photoshop. You can even target an action to a group. No
group idea in GIMP.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch converter for web optmisation

2005-05-03 Thread wayne
On Sunday 01 May 2005 07:46 am, Stefan Frings wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I like to optimize more than 100 photos (jpeg, 640x480) for web publishing.
> I noticed thet the files are much smaller when I simply load and overwrite
> them with gimp with very minor loss of quality.
>
> I woul dlike to do this with all my pictures in an automatic batch job. Ho
> can I do this?
>
> If there is another nice Linux program, then this would also be ok for me
> but I assume that Gimp can do it - I assume that Gimp can do everything:-)


Take a look at Digikam: 
http://digikam.sourceforge.net/Digikam-SPIP/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=6

It can handle batch processes, though perhaps not as fast as a command line 
program.

Wayne
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[Fwd: Re: [Gimp-user] compile question]

2005-05-03 Thread Andrew
Sorry. This of course was intended for the list.
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

Please excuse my ignorance: I am not quite sure what I am supposed to
do with the patch for the tarball.
   

I might just have missed a mail but if I didn't, then I am clearly
lacking context to be able to interpret your question. What patch are
you talking about, what tarball?
Sven
 

Please excuse my vagueness: gimp-2.2.6.bz2 and patch-2.2.6.bz2 
(downloaded from ftp.gimp.org)

Ta,
Andrew
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Re: [Gimp-user] compile question

2005-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Please excuse my ignorance: I am not quite sure what I am supposed to
> do with the patch for the tarball.

I might just have missed a mail but if I didn't, then I am clearly
lacking context to be able to interpret your question. What patch are
you talking about, what tarball?


Sven
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[Gimp-user] compile question

2005-05-03 Thread Andrew
Good morning,
Please excuse my ignorance: I am not quite sure what I am supposed to do 
with the patch for the tarball.

Andrew
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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch converter for web optmisation

2005-05-03 Thread Daniel Yek





On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 19:46 +0200, Stefan Frings wrote:


Hello,

photos for web publishing. I noticed thet the files are much smaller when I simply load and overwrite them 
with gimp

I would like to do this with all my pictures in an automatic batch job.

If there is another nice Linux program, 



Not really to optimize the file size, but gthumb (FC3/ApplicationsMenu/Graphics/PhotoTools) can publish selected photos as web album - start gthumb, select a set of photos, click ToolsMenu/CreateWebAlbum - very easy.





-- 
Daniel.