[Gimp-user] panoramic photo

2011-04-23 Thread rich
I'm new to using Linux based software and do not know how to stitch 
multi photos together to form a panoramic picture can you help?

Yours Will

As mentioned, Hugin is an excellent,comprehensive, panorama application. Go to 
their web site and look at their tutorials.
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/

There is also a gimp script, Pandora which will make simple panos, a few 
tutorials around, my take on the subject here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBma6CT3mjY



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[Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's

2011-04-23 Thread Carusoswi
So, I have used Gimp to downsize large architectural drawing images from Tiff's 
to jpgs.  Well, I always thought I was downsizing them.  In the past, the 
process always seemed to make the files more usable in the application where I 
need to use the architectural drawings without a significant loss in quality.

This morning, I have had trouble following 'my process'.  Typically, I will 
open a tiff in Gimp, save as jpg, export if prompted, then select quality of 40 
or 50 percent, and the result is a usable file that is significantly smaller 
than the source tiff file.

Today, the source tiff which is 900 mb in size is being converted to jpg which 
is 6 or 7 mb in size, totally unusable. 

Additionally, if I simply open the source in Gimp, save it to another directory 
from Gimp without making any changes, the file also grows to 6 or 7 mb.

What am I doing wrong this morning that I have not been doing wrong for the 
last 6 months?

I am stumped (and frustrated because I have work to do).

Using version 2.6.11 in Ubuntu 10.10 if that matters.

I have a version of 2.7 on my Windows XP OS, and it will lock up trying to open 
these drawings.

It's curious, because, at 900 MB, I typically can use the drawings without even 
altering or downsizing them.  Today, it's a problem.

What I really cannot understand is why Gimp is causing unaltered files to grow 
in size when saving them.  Is that normal?

Advice will be most appreciated.

Caruso

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's

2011-04-23 Thread John Culleton
On Saturday 23 April 2011 07:53:49 Carusoswi wrote:
 So, I have used Gimp to downsize large architectural drawing 
images from
 Tiff's to jpgs.  Well, I always thought I was downsizing them.  In 
the
 past, the process always seemed to make the files more usable 
in the
 application where I need to use the architectural drawings 
without a
 significant loss in quality.
 
 This morning, I have had trouble following 'my process'.  
Typically, I will
 open a tiff in Gimp, save as jpg, export if prompted, then select 
quality
 of 40 or 50 percent, and the result is a usable file that is 
significantly
 smaller than the source tiff file.
 
 Today, the source tiff which is 900 mb in size is being converted 
to jpg
 which is 6 or 7 mb in size, totally unusable.
 
 Additionally, if I simply open the source in Gimp, save it to 
another
 directory from Gimp without making any changes, the file also 
grows to 6
 or 7 mb.
 
 What am I doing wrong this morning that I have not been doing 
wrong for the
 last 6 months?
 
 I am stumped (and frustrated because I have work to do).
 
 Using version 2.6.11 in Ubuntu 10.10 if that matters.
 
 I have a version of 2.7 on my Windows XP OS, and it will lock up 
trying to
 open these drawings.
 
 It's curious, because, at 900 MB, I typically can use the drawings 
without
 even altering or downsizing them.  Today, it's a problem.
 
 What I really cannot understand is why Gimp is causing 
unaltered files to
 grow in size when saving them.  Is that normal?
 
 Advice will be most appreciated.
 
 Caruso

Are the architectural drawings available in a vector format such as
svg or pdf? These are normally much smaller for drawings etc. 
than their bitmapped equivalents.

 If not you might have better luck importing them as bitmaps into 
Inkscape and then converting them to svg or pdf using either trace 
mode or outline mode. 


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[Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's

2011-04-23 Thread Carusoswi
On Saturday 23 April 2011 07:53:49 Carusoswi wrote:
 So, I have used Gimp to downsize large architectural drawing 
images from
 Tiff's to jpgs.  Well, I always thought I was downsizing them.  In 
the
 past, the process always seemed to make the files more usable 
in the
 application where I need to use the architectural drawings 
without a
 significant loss in quality.
 
 This morning, I have had trouble following 'my process'.  
Typically, I will
 open a tiff in Gimp, save as jpg, export if prompted, then select 
quality
 of 40 or 50 percent, and the result is a usable file that is 
significantly
 smaller than the source tiff file.
 
 Today, the source tiff which is 900 mb in size is being converted 
to jpg
 which is 6 or 7 mb in size, totally unusable.
 
 Additionally, if I simply open the source in Gimp, save it to 
another
 directory from Gimp without making any changes, the file also 
grows to 6
 or 7 mb.
 
 What am I doing wrong this morning that I have not been doing 
wrong for the
 last 6 months?
 
 I am stumped (and frustrated because I have work to do).
 
 Using version 2.6.11 in Ubuntu 10.10 if that matters.
 
 I have a version of 2.7 on my Windows XP OS, and it will lock up 
trying to
 open these drawings.
 
 It's curious, because, at 900 MB, I typically can use the drawings 
without
 even altering or downsizing them.  Today, it's a problem.
 
 What I really cannot understand is why Gimp is causing 
unaltered files to
 grow in size when saving them.  Is that normal?
 
 Advice will be most appreciated.
 
 Caruso

Are the architectural drawings available in a vector format such as
svg or pdf? These are normally much smaller for drawings etc. 
than their bitmapped equivalents.

 If not you might have better luck importing them as bitmaps into 
Inkscape and then converting them to svg or pdf using either trace 
mode or outline mode. 


I am generally at the whim of the entity that issues the drawings.  These are 
only available in tiff format, but I will try your suggestion to convert them 
to vector format.  Thanks for the reply.  Any clues as to why Gimp is rendering 
unmodified tiffs at six times their original file size?

Caruso

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's

2011-04-23 Thread Michael Grosberg
Carusoswi forums at gimpusers.com writes:

 
 So, I have used Gimp to downsize large architectural drawing images from
Tiff's to jpgs.  

Let's be precise. You are not downsizing the images. Downsize means
making a picture physically smaller, as in, having less pixels. According
to your own description, you are not doing this. What you are doing is saving
the file in another format which has better compression.

 Today, the source tiff which is 900 mb in size is being converted to jpg
 which is 6 or 7 mb in size, totally unusable. 
 Additionally, if I simply open the source in Gimp, save it to another 
 directory from Gimp without making any changes, the file also grows to 
 6 or 7 mb.

Now I'm completely confused. You say the original is 900MB. then you say it
grows to 6-7MB. But 900 is much larger than 6 or 7! Please explain.
Did you by any chance mean 900KB and not MB? that would explain it.

 What I really cannot understand is why Gimp is causing unaltered files to 
 grow in size when saving them.  Is that normal?

The TIFF format has many options, including several compression modes, and 
also an uncompressed mode. So, assuming you meant 900KB:
You probably opened a compressed TIFF, and then when you saved the file, 
GIMP saved it as an uncompressed one. If the file has a lot of empty space
 - as in, a large empty area of white (or other) color - it will compress 
dramatically. When you re-save the TIFF, a dialog should open after you 
set the file name and folder. Choose LZW instead of none and see if that
solves the TIFF re-saving issue.

Also, because of the differences in compression types, some images that 
compress very well in TIFF's type of compression, compress very badly in 
JPG-type compression. The type of images that do this are images which have
lots of very thin lines, in other words: blueprints. I don't have a good
solution for saving this type of file in JPG. It really depends on why you
want to re-save the file to JPG in the first place.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's

2011-04-23 Thread Owen
 So, I have used Gimp to downsize large architectural drawing images
 from Tiff's to jpgs.  Well, I always thought I was downsizing them.
 In the past, the process always seemed to make the files more usable
 in the application where I need to use the architectural drawings
 without a significant loss in quality.

 This morning, I have had trouble following 'my process'.  Typically, I
 will open a tiff in Gimp, save as jpg, export if prompted, then select
 quality of 40 or 50 percent, and the result is a usable file that is
 significantly smaller than the source tiff file.

 Today, the source tiff which is 900 mb in size is being converted to
 jpg which is 6 or 7 mb in size, totally unusable.

 Additionally, if I simply open the source in Gimp, save it to another
 directory from Gimp without making any changes, the file also grows to
 6 or 7 mb.

 What am I doing wrong this morning that I have not been doing wrong
 for the last 6 months?

 I am stumped (and frustrated because I have work to do).

 Using version 2.6.11 in Ubuntu 10.10 if that matters.

 I have a version of 2.7 on my Windows XP OS, and it will lock up
 trying to open these drawings.

 It's curious, because, at 900 MB, I typically can use the drawings
 without even altering or downsizing them.  Today, it's a problem.

 What I really cannot understand is why Gimp is causing unaltered files
 to grow in size when saving them.  Is that normal?




Hi,

There are tiffs and tiffs, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format, however what
happens if you save to png first, rather than as a tiff as defined by
gimp (where some compression may have been removed).


If you save to png, I would be interested in the resulting size, and
then if you convert to jpg from that, what size is the jpg.



Owen




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