Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you'll also be moving Resolution from Scale Image, correct? No. The resolution entries would stay in the Scale Image dialog. I said the plan was to not change the Scale Image dialog at all and add an additional dialog to set the Print Size. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
William Skaggs wrote: For consistency with other programs and with users' expectations, the menu entry should probably be called Print Setup and should go into the File menu next to the Print entry. But this Setup doesn't offer margins, the orientation of thei mage on a sheet, printer settings etc... all the things users will expect from something that is called Print Setup. HTH, Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
#2 Putting it into its own menu entry (Sven's idea below) because... I vote for the #2. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Would this new 'Print Size' dialog have its own 'Resolution' setting? Eric P. On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:13:12PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you'll also be moving Resolution from Scale Image, correct? No. The resolution entries would stay in the Scale Image dialog. I said the plan was to not change the Scale Image dialog at all and add an additional dialog to set the Print Size. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would this new 'Print Size' dialog have its own 'Resolution' setting? Am I really that bad at describing things? The only thing you can configure in Print Size would be the resolution. There would be two entries to set the resolution (horziontal and vertical) and two entries to choose the print dimensions (width and height). Changing the print width or height will only affect the resolution, nothing else. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Ulp... my mistake. You laid it out perfectly in your initial email. I just lost it somewhere in the thread. On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:14:08AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would this new 'Print Size' dialog have its own 'Resolution' setting? Am I really that bad at describing things? The only thing you can configure in Print Size would be the resolution. There would be two entries to set the resolution (horziontal and vertical) and two entries to choose the print dimensions (width and height). Changing the print width or height will only affect the resolution, nothing else. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
On Monday 08 November 2004 09:48, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, we spent some more thoughts on this and discussed the topic on #gimp. Let me present the current plan and ask you for comments. I'd like to get it right this time since we should try to avoid further string changes before 2.2.0... So the plan is to keep the Scale Image dialog as is and to add a new dialog called Print Size which will allow to change the image resolution (and nothing else). It should offer two entries to specify the print size in physical units and two entries to specify the print resolution (linked with a chain-button since you will usually want to change both values at the same time). Does that make any sense? Is Print Size a good name for the dialog and it's menu entry? Seems ok for me. JS -- Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Hi, On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:48:44 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that make any sense? Is Print Size a good name for the dialog and it's menu entry? That'd be logical, It'd probably be nice located under File menu closer to other print options. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Hi, Nonexistent Entity [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does that make any sense? Is Print Size a good name for the dialog and it's menu entry? That'd be logical, It'd probably be nice located under File menu closer to other print options. Since it's not a file operation, it would not be very logical to put it there. IMHO it should be located in the Image menu close to Scale Image and Canvas Size. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
On Monday 08 November 2004 12:45, Nonexistent Entity wrote: Hi, On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:48:44 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that make any sense? Is Print Size a good name for the dialog and it's menu entry? That'd be logical, It'd probably be nice located under File menu closer to other print options. I'd prefer it to stay in the image menu, next to canvas size and resize image. It's image data that'd be changed after all. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
So you'll also be moving Resolution from Scale Image, correct? For what it's worth, I did a good 2 minutes of research on this topic to see what the other softies are doing for a Print Size type dialog. Here: http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/print_size_research_results.php I see good arguements for two 'print size/resolution' location ideas. #1 Returning it as it was in =2.0 because... - Everybody else has 'pixel scaling' and 'print size' in the same dialog, - People are accustomed to Gimp also having these entries together as they've been that way a long time - one less menu entry = one less menu entry to wade through #2 Putting it into its own menu entry (Sven's idea below) because... - Having 'Print Size/resolution' settings in w/Interpolation settings really doesn't make sense - Gimp is NOT about what everybody else is doing - fock 'em That said, I vote for idea #2, and I vote for Print Size for the vernacular. I'd be curious to hear from others on this topic who use Gimp mostly for print work. Eric P. On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 12:48:44PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, we spent some more thoughts on this and discussed the topic on #gimp. Let me present the current plan and ask you for comments. I'd like to get it right this time since we should try to avoid further string changes before 2.2.0... So the plan is to keep the Scale Image dialog as is and to add a new dialog called Print Size which will allow to change the image resolution (and nothing else). It should offer two entries to specify the print size in physical units and two entries to specify the print resolution (linked with a chain-button since you will usually want to change both values at the same time). Does that make any sense? Is Print Size a good name for the dialog and it's menu entry? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will the 'print size width/height' fields be returning to the Scale Image dialog? Uh, oh. The new dialog has been proposed here months ago. Why didn't anyone complain earlier? We are in string and UI freeze now :( That said, we could of course still do changes but I find it very disappointing that these issues come up so late. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will the 'print size width/height' fields be returning to the Scale Image dialog? Would it perhaps be better to also remove the Resolution entries from the Scale dialog and add a new dialog Image-Change Print Size ? The fact that you had to use the Scale dialog for changing the resolution has always been a source of confusion. Perhaps a different dialog would be a good way to solve that problem w/o ending up with a cluttered Scale dialog again? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
On Saturday 06 Nov 2004 12:03, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will the 'print size width/height' fields be returning to the Scale Image dialog? Would it perhaps be better to also remove the Resolution entries from the Scale dialog and add a new dialog Image-Change Print Size ? The fact that you had to use the Scale dialog for changing the resolution has always been a source of confusion. Perhaps a different dialog would be a good way to solve that problem w/o ending up with a cluttered Scale dialog again? That would make sense to me. I always found the scale dialog confusing. Richard -- You can normally find me on Jabber as [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 01:03:52PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will the 'print size width/height' fields be returning to the Scale Image dialog? Would it perhaps be better to also remove the Resolution entries from the Scale dialog and add a new dialog Image-Change Print Size ? The fact that you had to use the Scale dialog for changing the resolution has always been a source of confusion. Perhaps a different dialog would be a good way to solve that problem w/o ending up with a cluttered Scale dialog again? Sure. That actually makes the most sense. Eric ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
