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Re: converting to indexed and loss of quality

2000-08-06 Thread dave

Thanks for everyone's replys. The solution works fine, although it's a
shame you need to know your background for a transparent gif )-;

I was wondering, is there a script-fu that would do this, i.e.

add a layer
fill with colour (parameter)
merge visible layers
select by colour (same parameter)
remove selection

If not, is that easy to do? Maybe I'll learn scripts.

thanks
Dave

dave wrote:
> 
> I've been using gimp for a short while now, and the one problem that
> keeps
> coming up is when I convert an RGB image to indexed, to save as a gif
> with a transparent background.
> 
> I (think I) understand the issues with converting RGB colour to
> indexed, but what I don't understand is that I always seem to lose
> quality too (I guess that's somehow also a colour problem?)
> 
> Even if I do nice simple fonts, in black, on a transparent background,
> I lose quality of the fonts on converting to indexed. I either lose
> nice smooth edges, or pixels within narrow parts of small fonts, or
> both.
> 
> Why is this, and is there anything I can do about it? I need to do a
> lot of simple colour fonts with transparent backgrounds, so this is a
> real problem for me.
> 
> many thanks
> Dave



converting to indexed and loss of quality

2000-08-05 Thread dave

I've been using gimp for a short while now, and the one problem that
keeps
coming up is when I convert an RGB image to indexed, to save as a gif
with a transparent background.

I (think I) understand the issues with converting RGB colour to
indexed, but what I don't understand is that I always seem to lose
quality too (I guess that's somehow also a colour problem?)

Even if I do nice simple fonts, in black, on a transparent background,
I lose quality of the fonts on converting to indexed. I either lose
nice smooth edges, or pixels within narrow parts of small fonts, or
both.

Why is this, and is there anything I can do about it? I need to do a
lot of simple colour fonts with transparent backgrounds, so this is a
real problem for me.

many thanks
Dave



how to transform colors

2000-06-29 Thread Dave Morse

I have a picture of a helicopter in green paint.  I want to turn it into a
picture of a helicopter in, say, pink paint.  How do I do it?

(Basically I want to preform a rotation in color-space like you can do
with the OpenGL color-matrix extension)

http://24.16.52.60/~dm/xcobra-green-w.tif(the real image)
http://24.16.52.60/~dm/xcobra-green-w.jpg(since netscape & tif don't mix)

PS: Though I just subscribed to this list, it may not take for a few
hours, so you might want to CC me explicitly in any follow ups.



Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Dave Morse

Amy writes:
 > Is the file using cmyk color?  The Gimp cannot open files saved with CMYK.

tiffinfo says "Photometric Interpretation: RGB color".  I guess we can
trust that




Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Dave Morse

 > I tried downloading the two files to play with them.  The second file
 > 'after.tiff' is fine, but opening 'before.tiff' using the gimp gives
 > errors - about unknown data segments.  This is probably because
 > Photoshop is using a newer(or non-standard) file format than the GIMP.
 > 
 > The file itself was created using Photoshop version 5.  I tried using
 > GIMP version 1.1.23 to open it, what version is Dave using?
 > 
 > Dave Morse requested all repies are CC'd to him, his address is:
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Gimp version 1.1.22.

If you really can't load it at all, try 
  http://24.16.52.60/~dm/before.xcf
This seems identical to what I get in memory after loading 
  http://24.16.52.60/~dm/before.tif

All my gnuish utilities complain slightly about before.tif:

  /net/home/dm/public_html/before.tif: Warning, incorrect count for field 
"MinSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored.
  /net/home/dm/public_html/before.tif: Warning, incorrect count for field 
"MaxSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored.

But that's it, and the image looks fine.  I have come to expect those
warnings after years of seeing it.

Hm, it is a good point that gimp-created-alphad-tiffs load with completely
different channels, appearance, etc than these photoshop tiffs.

Either Photoshop is screwing up the save, or Gimp is subtly screwing up
the load, or Gimp is screwing up the save.  How to tell which one is the
case?  



how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Dave Morse

Hi,
I've got tiffs created in Photoshop that I need to crop using Gimp.  They
have alpha.  If I open the up in Gimp, use the crop tool, then resave, the
next time I open them I discover that only the alpha-mask has been saved
in place of the rgb data.

before save:  http://24.16.52.60/~dm/before.tif
after save:   http://24.16.52.60/~dm/after.tif

Needless to say, this is not what I want.

How do I do what I want?

(Please CC me on replies, as I don't subscribe to gimp-user)



Batch script code rot

2000-06-10 Thread dave

Attached is a function, script-fu-copyright, that is used to apply a
copyright notice to the image in /tmp/temp.ppm and save the results
over the original file.  With gimp 1.0.0 the function was usable from
a bash prompt as follows:

gimp --no-interface --no-data -b '(script-fu-copyright 1 "\"Mumble\"" "\"SE\"")' 
'(gimp-quit 0)'

Upon upgrading to gimp 1.0.4, the function still works if run
interactively, but from the shell prompt I now get:

batch command: experienced an execution error.
gimp: tile ref count balance: 72

Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkmain.c: line 534 (gtk_main_quit): assertion `main_loops != 
NULL' failed.

I banged my head trying to debug this for hours and never got
anywhere.  Help?

Thanks,
DWF

(define (script-fu-copyright text placement)
  (let* (
(theImage (car (file-pnm-load 0 "/tmp/temp.ppm" "/tmp/temp.ppm")))
(theImageWidth (car (gimp-image-width theImage)))
(theImageHeight (car (gimp-image-height theImage)))
(points (if (< theImageWidth 300) 10 12))
(theTextExtents (gimp-text-get-extents
  text points POINTS "adobe" "helvetica" "bold" "r" "normal" "*"))
; 0.925 is the fudge factor
(theTextWidth (* (car theTextExtents) 0.925))
(theTextHeight (cadr theTextExtents))
(placeX)
(placeY)
)
(gimp-palette-set-foreground '(255 255 255))
(if (= (strcmp placement "NW") 0)
  (begin
(set! placeX 3)
(set! placeY 3)
  ))
(if (= (strcmp placement "NE") 0)
  (begin
(set! placeX (- (- theImageWidth 3) theTextWidth))
(set! placeY 3)
  ))
(if (= (strcmp placement "SW") 0)
  (begin
(set! placeX 3)
(set! placeY (- theImageHeight theTextHeight))
  ))
(if (= (strcmp placement "SE") 0)
  (begin
(set! placeX (- (- theImageWidth 3) theTextWidth))
(set! placeY (- theImageHeight theTextHeight))
  ))
(gimp-text theImage -1 placeX placeY text
   0 TRUE points POINTS "adobe" "helvetica" "bold" "r" "normal" "*")
(gimp-image-flatten theImage)
(file-pnm-save 1 theImage (car (gimp-image-active-drawable theImage))
  "/tmp/temp.ppm" "/tmp/temp.ppm" 1)
  )
)
(script-fu-register
 "script-fu-copyright"  ; function name
 "/Xtns/Script-Fu/Copyright"  ; menu position
 "Adds copyright notice to an image." ; short description
 "David Flater"   ; author
 "Copyright 1999 David Flater"   ; copyright notice
 "August 1, 1999"; date created/modified
 ""; image types it can work on
 SF-VALUE "Text String" "\"(C) 1999 David Flater.  http://www.flaterco.com/\""
 SF-VALUE "Placement" "\"SE\""
)



GIMP won't recognize new xscanimage as plugin

1999-01-16 Thread Dave Wilk

Howdy folks,

I've been just barely toying with the GIMP for over a year now and was
quite proud a while back when I got my UMAX scanner working on my linux box
with SANE 1.0.0.  I got the GIMP recognizing xscanimage as a plugin and
everything worked great.  Well, I noticed that SANE 1.0.1 had better
support for my scanner so I did the download, configure, compile thing and
it was easier than I thought and had xscanimage up in no time.  Did the
symlink thing in ~/.gimp/plug-ins/ and no go.  I recreated, copied, deleted
~/.gimp/pluginrc, everything I could think of and I just can't get the GIMP
to recognize xscanimage as a plugin and put it in the xtns menu.  I've read
all the docs and I've done what I was supposed to but it just ain't workin'
for me.

if any of ya got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.

thanks,

Dave

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