[Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread rich404
>* rich404  [10-30-17 07:48]:
>a rather elitist attitude, isn't it?
>
>does a "gimpusers" subscribee have *better* standing or knowledge or
>manners than "non-gimpusers-dot-com" scribers?  and how would you know
>that someone using their own email addr was not a "subscriber" or
>maybe
>even a contributor/developer or someone who wanted to be?
>
>but I may not qualify to even merit a reply :(.

Not at all,and I have great respect for Elle Stone.

How do I know who-is-who 

If you ever come come to gimpusers-dot-com you will see that forum members names
are in blue, mailing list in grey.

Personally I hate mailing lists, stopped using the occasional academic list 20
years ago. The inability of subscribers to edit their posts continually amazes.
Top posting 'thanks' followed by a page of nested quoted is not unusual.

When it comes to  etiquette, probably got a better sense than many. At one time
a four line signature was considered bad form.

Now to go and play at selecting pictures in the new CAPTCHA format that is a
real PITA.

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Re: [Gimp-user] c++ "runtime to terminate it in an unusual way"

2017-10-30 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:53 AM, imWACCo  wrote:

> I'm just telling what I'm seeing. See attached pic
>
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> --
>
I wanted to apologize for my not so helpful answer, with an explanation.

I set out a challenge on (one of) the "old has beens" scripters networks to
build a computer that uses only c apps.

I was trying to start a war with perl and python on one side and c++ on the
other.  And while it is good to have users, it is even better to have
developers.

I did not mean to include *this* list in that war.

Truly sorry,  carol
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Re: [Gimp-user] Compatibility with PS?

2017-10-30 Thread Kevin Cozens

On 2017-10-29 06:06 PM, Jeffry Killen wrote:

Will Gimp open ps files: yes (which versions and what aspects are retained?)


The two problem areas you will run in to are images with adjustment layers, 
and text layers. GIMP doesn't have an equivalent for adjustment layers (yet) 
and text layers will be converted to a bitmap.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Similar function?

2017-10-30 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Jeffry Killen  wrote:

> Hello;
>
> It is not clear to me as I dig into the manual for Gimp, if there
> is a tool that does what the magic wand tool does in Photoshop.
>
> I have used the magic wand tool to select a solid background
> (single specific colored pixels such as white) in an image.
> Then inverting the selection so only the image part is selected.
> Then I can copy the selected image part and paste it into a layer
> in another file.
>
> In this way the image part now has a transparent background
> and can be combined with other image elements in the layer stack.
>
> Foreground select works about like this, iirc.

carol
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* rich404  [10-30-17 07:48]:
> >And PhotoFlow, and any other raw processor that chooses to provide a 
> >plug-in using the same sort of plug-in code that RawTherapee,
> >darktable,
> >and PhotoFlow provide.
> >
> >Best,
> >Elle
> 
> Indeed there is PhotoFlow.
> 
> I do not normally reply to non-gimpusers-dot-com subscribers but...

a rather elitist attitude, isn't it?

does a "gimpusers" subscribee have *better* standing or knowledge or
manners than "non-gimpusers-dot-com" scribers?  and how would you know
that someone using their own email addr was not a "subscriber" or maybe
even a contributor/developer or someone who wanted to be?

but I may not qualify to even merit a reply :(.
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[Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread rich404
>And PhotoFlow, and any other raw processor that chooses to provide a 
>plug-in using the same sort of plug-in code that RawTherapee,
>darktable,
>and PhotoFlow provide.
>
>Best,
>Elle

Indeed there is PhotoFlow.

I do not normally reply to non-gimpusers-dot-com subscribers but...

The three mentioned have become applications that occasionally use Gimp rather
than Gimp plugins. Wonderful.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread Elle Stone

On 10/30/2017 06:36 AM, rich404 wrote:

Otherwise the two applications that Gimp recognises by default and will use, are
Rawtherapee and Darktable.


And PhotoFlow, and any other raw processor that chooses to provide a 
plug-in using the same sort of plug-in code that RawTherapee, darktable, 
and PhotoFlow provide.


Best,
Elle
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[Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread rich404
>Good morning, The platform I'm working on is Windows 10, when I export
>TIFF files from NX2, I simply put them in a folder on the hard drive
>under Pictures. I then use Windows file manager to organise them.
>
>I've tried right clicking and using the  "open with" option, but GIMP
>is not an available option. I have some files saved in the folder in
>.xcf format, if I right click on these, GIMP appears in the "open
>with" options.

To open a RAW file directly in Gimp 2.9.x you need a plugin.

The example using a sample NEF file is in my linux Gimp 2.9.7 using the nUFRaw
plugin which I had to compile myself because of changes to the Gimp 2.9 package.

For Windows, AFAIK the Partha version of Gimp 2.9.6 comes with nUFRaw
pre-installed. see www.partha.com

Otherwise the two applications that Gimp recognises by default and will use, are
Rawtherapee and Darktable. Both are monsters that will take over your computer,
but the place to ask question on this is not here, but https://discuss.pixls.us/

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

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Re: [Gimp-user] Compatibility with PS?

2017-10-30 Thread Elle Stone

On 10/29/2017 06:06 PM, Jeffry Killen wrote:


Will Gimp open ps files: yes (which versions and what aspects are retained?)


I don't know which versions of PSD files GIMP can open. I do have some 
old CS2 PSD files that I recently spent some time opening with GIMP, 
after having not looked at them for many years.


I use GIMP 2.9, which is the development version of GIMP. Recently there 
have been quite a few new commits to the GIMP code that affect reading 
PhotoShop files. So the following observations are based on GIMP 2.9 and 
PhotoShop CS2. Hopefully someone else will chime in if I made mistakes 
in my observations or left out something important:


You will not be able to open a PSD file and continue editing "just as 
if" you were still using PhotoShop.


GIMP doesn't yet have adjustment layers (Curves, Levels, etc). Even if 
GIMP already did have adjustment layers, that doesn't mean GIMP would be 
able to interpret PhotoShop adjustment layers.


The only actual layers that GIMP can show when you open a PSD file are 
image layers, not adjustment layers. So if your PSD file has one image 
layer at the bottom, and a whole bunch of adjustment layers, then the 
only thing GIMP will retain when you open the PSD file is the image 
layer at the bottom.


So if your computer on which PhotoShop is installed is on the verge of 
not working any more, it might be a good idea to open your most 
important PSD files and use the equivalent of GIMP's "make new from 
visible" to have a record of the result of intermediate editing steps 
that involved adjustment layers.


Also, if you want to use DAM software such as digiKam and you want to 
see a thumbnail for your PSD files, save your PSD files using 
compatibility mode. Back when I used PhotoShop, at some point I stopped 
using compatibility mode and now I have a lot of PSD files for which 
digiKam and Gwenview can't show thumbnails. Again, this is for CS2 - I 
don't have a clue whether CS4 even has compatibility mode.


GIMP doesn't have the ability to play PSD macros (I hope I'm remembering 
the right word). So if your workflow depends heavily on macros, well, 
you can learn to script in GIMP, but there will be a steep learning curve.


GIMP doesn't yet support opening, editing, and saving images in the LAB 
or CMYK color spaces. So if you have any important LAB or CMYK PSD 
files, it might be a good idea while your computer is still running to 
save a copy of these files after converting them to RGB.


Many of the layer blend modes are the same in GIMP and PhotoShop, and 
many are not.


CS2 is pre "smart layer" - is that the right word? so if you used that 
functionality, maybe someone else knows if/how GIMP interprets these 
types of layers. But again, for your important PSD files it would be a 
good idea to use the PS equivalent of "make new from visible" to have a 
record in the PSD file of what the smart layer was supposed to do.


If you find that you simply don't want to edit images without using 
adjustment layers, Krita might work for you better than GIMP. Even 
though Krita is primarily aimed at painting rather than photography, 
people do use Krita for editing photographs. I'm not sure how good 
Krita's support for PSD is. I tried opening a couple of files with Krita 
and the only layer that "survived" was the bottom layer, but I think 
this might be because of some system issues I'm having with KDE image 
file format support.


GIMP is not "free PhotoShop" and your best bet is to approach GIMP for 
what it is, on its own terms. Personally I much prefer GIMP 2.9 over 
PhotoShop CS2. I never used GIMP 2.8 except to prepare files for 
uploading to the web, because 2.8 doesn't support high bit depth editing.


Best,
Elle
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[Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread Oxonian
>Where are the TIFF images stored? What platform are you working on?
>
>Can you right-click on a TIFF image in the computer’s directory window
>and select “Open with…”? That’s how I open most images with GIMP. The
>import functions are handled by GIMP, and I tend to use the defaults.
>Haven’t noticed a thumbnail layer yet, but in time… ? Shrugs.
>
>I use an iMac running OS X 10.12.6
>
>Rick
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[Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread Oxonian

Good morning, The platform I'm working on is Windows 10, when I export TIFF
files from NX2, I simply put them in a folder on the hard drive under Pictures.
I then use Windows file manager to organise them.

I've tried right clicking and using the  "open with" option, but GIMP is not an
available option. I have some files saved in the folder in .xcf format, if I
right click on these, GIMP appears in the "open with" options.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP started crashing on "create new image" with Runtime error

2017-10-30 Thread Nic
Today all of a sudden GIMP started crashing while creating and saving a file
with error:
"Runtime Error! Program: c:\...gimp-2.8.exe this application has requested the
runtime to terminate it in an unusual way ... etc..."
This never happened before! 
Yet I can open up a recent file - but I cannot save a file! 
I re-installed GIMP with a fresh download from original site - but it didn't
make a difference.
How can I fix this? 

I'm running a win10 x64. 
I've been using GIMP for over a year and it's always worked fine. 

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[Gimp-user] Gimp channel mixer

2017-10-30 Thread programmer_ceds
I've just tried converting a file from jpg to tiff with ViewNX V2.10.3.

When opening in GIMP I get an error message about a null byte in the date field
but it then opens the file as two layers with the top (active) layer being the
thumbnail exactly as you said. Looks like this is a bug in ViewNX2.

Exporting a file in GIMP with the thumbnail selected doesn't cause this problem.

At least you have a workaround.

>Good morning all,  The image I was working on was created by Nikon's
>ViewNX2 editor, the original image format was Nikon's raw image .NEF
>extension, I exported this as a TIFF and then imported it to GIMP.
>
>In ViewNX2 the images are stored with a preview thumbnail, so I think
>you have hit the nail on the head, I got myself confused at first
>because I didn't notice the thumbnail in the image  before  I used the
>channel mixer. The image is an infrared photo, it's mostly sky and the
>thumbnail didn't stand enough for me to notice it. It's also so tiny
>that it can't be seen in the image layer page 1. After swapping The
>red and blue channels (not green, another mistake) the colours changed
>enough for the thumbnail to be obvious. I wrongly assumed that the
>channel mixer had created the thumbnail, in fact it was there all the
>time.
>
>Now I understand the problem I think I'll be OK, for a while anyway.
>
>I bought Klaus Goelker's book "GIMP 2.8 for photographers" last week,
>I'm working my way through it and thought I was doing OK, but I got
>myself too confused to sort this one.
>
>Before installing GIMP I read a review which said that GIMP was a very
>good program, but the learning curve was steep. I  think they were
>right on both points.
>
>Thankyou for your assistance, I know what I'm going to be doing during
>the long winter nights.

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