Re: [Gimp-user] Can you remove me from this list I don't know how?

2016-10-22 Thread Dora Smith
Dale, I really appreciate the nice way you asked to be removed from the 
list.


I'm not the list owner and can't remove you, but the form to unsubscribe is 
on the page that "List membership", below, takes you to.


In fact I tried to unsubscribe your email address for you.  If it worked, 
you'll get a confirmation list that you have to respond to in order to be 
unsubscribed.   But you may need to set up or recover a password to be able 
to do it.


Yours,
Dora Smith

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 11:21 AM
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Re: [Gimp-user] Windows Version lacks 'Select a region to grab'

2015-08-26 Thread Dora Smith
You said you've been specifically having trouble in Windows - so, in 
Windows!


Dora

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On 25/08/15 15:39, Dora Smith wrote:
So are you having trouble selecting a region to grab, with other kinds of 
images in GIMP or only screenshots?




Where did I say I have trouble? Everything works on Linux for me.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Windows Version lacks 'Select a region to grab'

2015-08-24 Thread Dora Smith
It has never occurred to me to use GIMP to do screenshots.  At face value, 
that sounds like extra work, kind of like using WORD to do screenshots.


I use Screenshot Captor, for Windows 7.   It is excellent, and has all the 
options you need.  You can select, crop, resize, and do some other things 
I've not had to do, and save it in quite a variety of formats.   It even 
saves it in its own screen and then you can just open the program and drag 
and drop to email screenshots.


Ubuntu has good screenshot programs available through the software manager, 
and I like them as well.


But what version of Windows are you using?   Ofnuts' guess brings to mind 
the fact that Windows 8/ 10 has serious identity confusion; it often thinks 
it's a tablet.   Can't get the mouse pointer when doing a screenshot of the 
whole screen - really?   LOL!


You know, you could get a second hard drive and try out one of the Ubuntu 
flavors.   Unity most closely resembles Windows 8, and Kubuntu most 
resembles Windows XP, and if you add the Cairo dock (requires up to date 
video processor and its own Linux drivers if it has them), it resembles 
Windows 7.   Unity won't run if the video processor isn't up to date either, 
and it can be hard with gnome.   But if you've got Windows 8, the video 
processor is up to date, because it's a new computer.


Dora

-Original Message- 
From: Ofnuts

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 5:57 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Windows Version lacks 'Select a region to grab'

Possiby a restriction due to Windows screen management. IIRC you don't
get the mouse pointer when doing a screenshot of the whole screen.


On 25/08/15 00:14, Pat David wrote:

on 2.8.14 (Partha's build), I only have Grab a single window and Grab
the whole screen.

So I'm going to say that there is no region selection for grabbing screen
shots in windows?

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:04 PM AJ codech...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello!

I'm regularly an Ubuntu Gimp user, but have occasion to use Gimp on
WIndows. When I have to use Windows, I was wondering if it's a version
issue or missing plugin or something... but the Windows version doesn't
appear to have the feature I love, that is 'Select a region to grab' in 
the

Create | Screenshot option.

Can anyone please advise?




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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a little help!

2015-07-10 Thread Dora Smith
To be sure, I could figure out how to do it if there were enough of the 
button to clone around the labels, but there probably isn't.


One could just color the buttons with any old thing, or color them black and 
then recolor and decorate them.   You could do that in Gimp with a few 
layers.  It depends on how much shading and shadow is on the buttons.


Dora

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Kinney

Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:11 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Need a little help!

On 07/08/2015 09:43 AM, Bronk, Paul wrote:

I am brand new to GIMP, and have a task my boss wants me to do.

I need to erase the labels on these buttons, replace with same color, and 
then re-label with correct function for each button.


Was there supposed to be an attachment, or (better) a link to an
image file?  What you describe sounds like a simple, routine task
but it's hard to tell without something to look at.


Can you help me?!!


That's what we do here.

:o)



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Re: [Gimp-user] An Issue With Layers

2015-07-01 Thread Dora Smith
I too have found the text tool hard to deal with in GIMP.  You really can't 
do anything else on the same layer you create a text box. let alone create 
more than one text box.


Basically one has to put a text box to a layer.

Dora

-Original Message- 
From: Mikel Garai

Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:57 AM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] An Issue With Layers

Hi,

I just tested and every time you use te text tool it could happen the
following:

 * If you click on an existing text you will edit that text
 * If you click outside any text layer a new /text layer /will be
   created where you can add your text.

The text layers are special because you can edit the text later on,
unless you apply any filter that can convert it to a image layer.

If you want to create a text just in top of another text you can either
create it in other place and then move it where you want to or you can
hide the layer and then put the new text where you want (you can hide
the layer with the icon of the /eye/ in the layers control)

Create a new document and play a little with the text tool, that will
give you an idea of how it works, its quite intuitive.

BR,

Mikel

On 28/06/15 19:51, VisionaryHag wrote:
I am trying to add new text to a document, but every time I add a new 
layer and

try to write the text, it jumps to the text layer that is already in the
document and messes with that layer instead.  I also had this issue when 
trying
to move a layer so I am guessing the issue is in the layers, or some 
setting.


I can't find any info on this issue anywhere.  Hoping someone can help. 
Thanks

so much!

I should mention that I am new to GIMP.



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[Gimp-user] Question about the meanings of the numbers in a color gradient

2015-06-27 Thread Dora Smith

I've almost got it figured out.

GIMP Gradient
Name: Dora Gay flag
6
0.00 0.08 0.17 1.00 0.315000 0.315000 1.00 1.00 
0.315000 0.315000 1.00 0 0 0 0
0.17 0.25 0.33 1.00 0.501961 0.00 1.00 1.00 
0.501961 0.00 1.00 0 0 0 0
0.33 0.416667 0.50 1.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 
1.00 0.00 1.00 0 0 0 0
0.50 0.58 0.67 0.00 0.474510 0.250980 1.00 0.00 
0.474510 0.250980 1.00 0 0 0 0
0.67 0.75 0.83 0.250980 0.250980 1.00 1.00 0.250980 
0.250980 1.00 1.00 0 0 0 0
0.83 0.916667 1.00 0.627451 0.00 0.752941 1.00 0.627451 
0.00 0.752941 1.00 0 0 0 0


Third row is how many segments.  If an example has 2 segments it is 2; if an 
example has 18 segments it is 18.   This one has 6 segments so it is 6.


First three columns are left point, right (end point), and point where the 
gradient changes - and if the blended colors are close where it is doesn't 
matter.
Next are the left color in RGB decimal.  Following is a number that I don't 
know what it represents, and probably it is maximum at 1.00.
Following is the rgb code for the right color, then the number that I don't 
know what it means.
Following that are four 0's I understand noone knows what they mean but 
leave them alone.


Now, I can't get the gradient editor to work, but I did get it and the 
foreground color picker to help me select numbers.


There are two numbered scales, such that the maximum is 100.   One is 
blackness, V, and it controls how dark the color is.
The other is the saturation; it controls how intense my color is.   It goes 
from 0 to 100.


Somehow at one point I got the opacity slider to display; not sure how I 
managed it, but it controlled the opacity number and nothing else.


Now, in the gradient editor, I get the position at wherever my mouse is at, 
the rgb color, HSV, and luminance and opacity.

HSV is 0.0  some number between 1 and 100 100.0
Luminance is some number between 0 and 100.

It seems that everything changes together, except opacity and blackness, 
which change separately.


If I carefully keep the black control all the way down and change the 
saturation, both the luminance and the middle number in HSV change.


I don't see anything that goes from 0 to 1.000 that affects luminosity, 
saturation, or anything that controls how light or intense the color is.


So say I want RGB color 1.0, .307, .307, with the middle HSV number 69.4, 
and luminance 45.1; and in the foreground color picker this is Hue 0, 
saturation 85, V=100 (0 blackness), RGB = 255 38 38, and the HTML notation 
is ff2626.What number do I want to put after the RGB colors where 1.000 
is now?


Feel free to point me to anything that explains it that is written in 
English and won't take more than fifteen minutes for someone who got this 
far  to figure out, and also if there is a chart or, better, tool somewhere 
that will just tell me what numbers to use for the colors and saturation I 
want.


If I wanted to change the opacity, would that be changed IN the gradient, or 
would it be changed with how one applies the gradient?


Thanks!

Yours,
Dora Smith

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Schumacher

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 10:21 AM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Can this gay flag gradient be added to releases of 
gimp?




On 06/27/2015 04:56 AM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote:

Hi darxus,


http://www.chaosreigns.com/code/dl/Gay-flag.ggr

I just made it, based on the colors from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag_(LGBT_movement)


we've discussed the best name for the gradient - 'gay flag' as such
seems to be imprecise.

I think using the names as in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_symbols#Flag_gallery is a good choice
- and thus we could use Rainbow flag.


I'm pretty confident it's perfect.


The color of the left and right end point of the red stripe are slightly
different - is this intended?

Overall, the colors you have used are different to the HTML notation
used on the Wikipedia page - it uses color keywords. They are also
different to the colors of the six-color flag shown there.

I'm not sure if exact matches matter, but still would be curious how you
did get the colors you've used.


Adding that flag gradient:

If we add the flag gradient for the symbol it represents, we might want
to consider to add gradients for a few other flags from the gallery
linked previously, and use the names provided there.


In regard to including gradients at all:

We've had a few gradients for national flags in releases in the past
(French, German, Mexican, Romanian). They do still exist in our code
repository, but have been marked as obsolete:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/data/gradients/Makefile.am?h=gimp-2-8#n78

In general, we have reduced the number of resources that come with GIMP
by default. Adding some resources that have

Re: [Gimp-user] Can this gay flag gradient be added to releases of gimp?

2015-06-27 Thread Dora Smith

Thanks, darxus.

I have a suggestion, though.  People really want to celebrate events this 
week, which maybe not by coincidence coincides with Gay Pride Week, and not 
in a couple of years when the new edition of GIMP comes out.   You can make 
any GIMP add-on and circulate it on line, and see if it catches on.


Send me your script privately, and tell me how to use it, and I'll try it 
out myself.  I feel like celebrating.   It's been one of those our entire 
culture shifts completely in one week weeks.


By the way, Darxus, I know one doesn't normally do this, but I'm so sure you 
did NOT mean to discuss this only with me, especially as you specifically 
addressed yourself to someone else, that I'm posting it back to the list. 
I'm not the only one who thinks gradients grade, and I'm not who you wanted 
to tell they can use gradients to make their gay flag.  This list is set up 
so you have to reply all to reply to the list, and that is so unusual I fail 
to do it half of the time.


Dora

-Original Message- 
From: dar...@chaosreigns.com

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:45 AM
To: Dora Smith
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Can this gay flag gradient be added to releases of 
gimp?


There are a couple flag gradients included with gimp, I think one of them
was French.  Gradients can have hard edges between them.  I assure you this
gradient does exactly the thing you'd want.  With a click and a drag you
have a gay flag over your image.

On 06/27, Dora Smith wrote:

The gay flag has morphed into a flag with horizontal colored bars,
sometimes with another symbol or the 50 starts in the upper left
quarter.

The problem with gradients is that colors blend into each other, so
it wouldn't be clear that it is a gay flag.Depending of course
on what creative use you might be using it for.

I'd suggest a stamp.

Or maybe it would be clearer if you post a link to an image of what
you have created.

The gay flag itself is very easy to copy.  Split your image into six
horizontal sections, and color them red, orange, yellow, green,
blue, and lavender or purple.   It's based on the gay version of the
rainbow version of Barack Obama's campaign symbol in 2008.

Dora


-Original Message- From: dar...@chaosreigns.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:56 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Can this gay flag gradient be added to releases
of gimp?

http://www.chaosreigns.com/code/dl/Gay-flag.ggr

I just made it, based on the colors from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag_(LGBT_movement)
I'm pretty confident it's perfect.
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-docs] Accessibility documentation request

2015-06-24 Thread Dora Smith

They seriously think so at TCEQ.

Dora

-Original Message- 
From: Gene Heskett 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:10 AM 
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org 
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-docs] Accessibility documentation request 




On Wednesday 24 June 2015 01:11:05 Dora Smith wrote:

Actually I think the information Ms. Hunter wants, such as it is, is
on this page:

http://www.gimp.org/about/

I can see she's going to have to call Legal on this one.   Grin.   
TCEQ has a staff of lawyers one calls about anything. ;)   Some of

them even have common sense.

Dora


Humm, I thought that was grounds for disbarment. ;-)





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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-docs] Accessibility documentation request

2015-06-23 Thread Dora Smith
Actually I think the information Ms. Hunter wants, such as it is, is on this 
page:


http://www.gimp.org/about/

I can see she's going to have to call Legal on this one.   Grin.TCEQ has 
a staff of lawyers one calls about anything. ;)   Some of them even have 
common sense.


Dora


-Original Message- 
From: Bill Skaggs

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:11 AM
To: Sarah Hunter
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org ; gimp-docs-l...@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-docs] Accessibility documentation request

Dear Ms. Hunter,

GIMP is open source software, available for download by anybody at no
charge, subject to a specific licensing agreement.  That licensing
agreement does not make any warranty of accessibility. If the state of
Texas purchased this software, it was obtained from a third party, not
directly from the GIMP project.  Any responsibility for documenting
accessibility would lie with that third party.

See http://www.gimp.org for more information about the project.

Best regards, Bill Skaggs

(This email is purely informative.  I do not have the right to speak for
the GIMP project.)

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Sarah Hunter sarah.hun...@tceq.texas.gov
wrote:


 This email is to request appropriate accessibility documentation for
purchases from your company.

Federal and state laws require Texas state agencies to purchase only
accessible electronic and information resources from our vendors. We (the
Texas Commission on Environmental Quality) are currently reviewing all of
our software purchases and have been unable to locate the required
accessibility documentation for *GIMP.*

Per Texas Administrative Code, appropriate accessibility documentation may
be in the form of a Voluntary Product Accessibility Template (VPAT) or an
accessible electronic document that addresses the same accessibility
criteria in substantially the same format as a VPAT or equivalent 
reporting

template.

I have attached an industry-standard VPAT for your convenience. You may 
also

find the Even Grounds website
http://evengrounds.com/articles/creating-an-effective-vpat to be
helpful.

Please provide the requested information by *June 15th, 2015*. If I can
be of assistance, or if you need additional information, please let me 
know.


Thank you,





*Sarah Hunter*

*Accessibility Intern | Information Resources Department *

*sarah.hun...@tceq.texas.gov* sarah.hun...@tceq.texas.gov

*512-239-4773 512-239-4773*



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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-docs] Accessibility documentation request

2015-06-23 Thread Dora Smith
This has piqued my curiosity.  I live in Austin and have worked at TCEQ; 
they are a strange breed; strange even for Texas bureacrats.   I'm wondering 
if this one could really have come from TCEQ, and if so what Ms. Hunter 
could be thinking.   I think I'll just call her up tomorrow and ask her.


My brother in law has worked for IBM helping government agencies develop 
Linux solutions, and if there is any issue with government agencies thinking 
they're banned from using free software, maybe he can shed light...


Now, Austin IS the original land of bureacracy... New York State doesn't 
even hold a candle to it...  and you know that University of Texas at Austin 
debate over the confederate statues on campus, which campus officials have 
handled for decades through protracted bureacratic procedure?   Well, guess 
what...  EVERYTHING is handled like that here.Sometimes it's deliberate, 
sometimes not.


So Ms. Hunter understands, open source software is not for purchase, and one 
doesn't have to acquire a license to use it.   Like, would get used to it 
be appropriate?


I wonder if she has this list confused with the developers of GIMP.

Some Linux distributions have some optional or else easily overlooked 
procedure where you agree to keep the software open source.   GIMP's 
developers would know if they have such a procedure.


I'd be astounded if Texas actually has a law against state agencies using 
open source or free software...   I really don't think so,  LOL   But 
people are so strange here, it's no surprise some government officials may 
think such a law exists!


The GIMP web site should tell how to contact those developers. 
http://www.gimp.org/   But from looking on this site, it comes across that 
like most things Linux/ open source, GIMP is strictly a community effort. 
You'd have better luck getting an official response from the owners of 
Wikipedia... they don't exist.   There is no contact information for GIMP's 
developers, because GIMP's developers are all of us.


GIMP's documentation, including it's GNU Free Documentation License are 
here:  http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/


This is an open mailing list where GIMP users share information on how to 
use the software...  this list certainly won't be providing TCEQ with its 
accessibility information! Certainly not by *June 15, 2015*.   Which leads 
me to wonder exactly what I will find out when I call Ms. Hunter tomorrow, 
because June 15 was like, eight days ago.   Is this a spoof?   Maybe by 
someone who has as little use for TCEQ as I do?


I'm pretty sure GIMP's developers made not attempt to sell GIMP to TCEQ nor 
even got in touch with them unless TCEQ had reached out to them... and 
installing the software is a matter of downloading it!


Now, if TCEQ means to sue all open source developers to require them to sell 
and license their software  a whole lot of people will be seeing them in 
court...  right after I suspect a whole lot of people take thick old white 
paint (with black for the eyes) to those confederate statues on the UT 
Austin campus.


I worked for a large company that runs a big call center in Austin that 
contracts with the Texas Health and Human Services Commission to handle 
certain welfare services.We used CCleaner to remove cookies and empty 
browser caches and free up our software.   CCleaner is free... unless one 
chooses to use the pro version, but we weren't using that.. .It was just 
installed on our computers.   Anyone can install and use ccleaner.   You 
don't need a license and you don't have to pay for it.   I don't need a 
license, and the State of Texas doesn't need a license.


I am wondering what Ms. Hunter specifically means by accessibility 
documentationusually accessibility has to do with aids the software 
might have that would be helpful to people with disabilities.   I don't even 
see how it would apply to GIMP.   GIMP is graphics software.As far as I 
know you need to be able to see well enough to use it and nothing internal 
to GIMP would help you if you can't...   How GIMP might be used with 
specific adaptive equipment, for example, for people who have trouble using 
their hands, would be a specific set of questions for the developers. 
Accessibility is often a very user-specific issue that it's hard to plan in 
advance for in any case.


Now, Ubuntu, an open source Linux operating system, comes with 
accessibility features I've not even seen in English, or not as usable; 
the computer will actually read anything at all to you out loud, and that 
sort of thing!   And that's just included with Ubuntu.


I'm going to get back to you all with what I find out when I talk with Ms. 
Hunter.


Dora



-Original Message- 
From: Bill Skaggs

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:11 AM
To: Sarah Hunter
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org ; gimp-docs-l...@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-docs] Accessibility documentation request

Dear Ms. Hunter,

GIMP is open 

Re: [Gimp-user] photomanipulation

2015-06-20 Thread Dora Smith



Most likely, copy a part of a person and a part of an animal onto the same 
photograph.  It requires a fairly basic set of GIMP skills covered in most 
sets of tutorials.


I myself want to copy birds from one image into another.

Dora

-Original Message- 
From: chris900

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] photomanipulation

hello i am trying to find out how to photo manipulate a person to be part 
animal

but i dont know how also im new to gimp

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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?

2015-06-20 Thread Dora Smith
Ross, why would I be using a tablet.  I'm using a mouse!   On a computer! 
I've not modified anything.


GIMP is acting exactly the same way in Ubuntu and Windows 7, on different 
computers.   It isn't something I've done.   It isn't some erratic way 
something is acting.


Dora

-Original Message- 
From: Ross Martinek

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:45 AM
To: Dora Smith
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?

That's happening because the program is not getting a discrete mouse-up 
signal. Are  you using the mouse or a stylus-tablet? Most of the 
stylus-tablet combinations I've used have a click-lock function. The most 
usual cause for this problem is that something is calling that function, 
usually a setting in the tablet software or button layout. For example, if 
you have a button near the tip of the stylus set to click-lock, and you 
inadvertently press it slightly, that could do it. The same sort of thing 
can happen with a mouse, or a trackpad. One of the sneakiest ways is when 
you have a trackpad, but are using the mouse or stylus, and unconsciously 
touch the trackpad—or even a key on the keyboard. Is caps lock set?


If you've modified the keyboard commands, that could also cause a signal 
conflict.


First thing to do is quit, reboot, and relaunch GIMP. Normal system changes 
sometimes cause temporary erratic behavior in some apps, and graphics 
programs are particularly vulnerable, even the most robust. Make sure you 
have the latest compatible device driver for your OS.


If the problem still occurs, does it occur with all input devices, or only 
with one? In that case, check that device's settings. If the problem doesn't 
seem to be there, check the system settings to make sure it is recognizing 
the device properly. Finally, if possible, check the hardware by using 
another similar device.


Ross

On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Dora Smith wrote:


Right, I do.  Problem is that it keeps drawing lines.

Dora

-Original Message- From: Ross Martinek
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:06 AM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] How do I get the lasso tool to stop adding lines?

The first place you click, you will see a circle that is momentarily 
filled with yellow. Continue clicking or dragging, then close the 
selection shape by moving the cursor over the starting point. When you are 
at the correct point, that original click point, with the yellow filled 
circle, will reappear. Click in it to close the shape.


Ross

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