Re: [Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[Steve Kinney]

On 05/15/2017 05:58 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

> I know that user manuals of all software are to be shunned, but dare I
> suggest to provide the readers with links to:
> 
> 
> - the File->Open dialog
> https://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-file-open.html
> 
> - the File->Save dialog
> https://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-save-dialog.html
> 
> 
> where the user interface elements mentioned in this thread are visible
> and get explained?

Links to manual pages rule, there are none higher.  If, that is, the
manual provides explicit instructions for the very thing wanted.
Otherwise, a more detailed explanation /and/ links to relevant manual
pages rule, etc.

Although on some occasions one must simply post screen shots of the
process.  Rare occasions, fortunately.

:o)


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[Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list]

>When explaining pretty much anything like this online its best to assume the
>reader has little or no knowledge of what you're trying to say. Otherwise more
>often than not it won't make sense.
...
>Half explained information isn't really of much use.


One apparently has to walk a thin line here...

One either assumes that the user has some basic knowledge at his/her disposal, 
and 
thereby infuriates him/her when he/she does not have that knowledge,

or

One assumes that the user knows nothing at all, and insults his/her 
intelligence when
he/she perfectly well knows 95 percent of the things needed to solve the 
problem.

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In the current case, 

>This is confusing. Firstly, where and what is the file chooser?  Secondly what
>parent directory and what left pane?


It seems perfectly reasonable to me, that you must have loaded or saved a file 
at some time in your
life, and that you therefore are familiar with the window that pops up when you 
do, that usually
shows some directories vertically on the left, and a list of files to the right.

Perhaps you were unaware that the windows that pop up for Open or Save are 
similar enough that people generally
refer to either one as a File Chooser, or that sections of a computer window 
might also be referred to by their
physical window equivalents: panes.  "Panel" I think is also used.

A directory (or folder) that holds another directory (or folder) is generally 
referred to as its parent. so when:
>Go to the parent of the directory you would like to add to the file chooser.
was written, the writer was telling you how to add the directory in which your 
file resides to the left pane.
Since to use the "+" button in the left pane, the directory to be added to the 
left pane must be visible in the center
part of the file chooser window, you must go up one directory level from the 
current level (the level in which you can
see your file in the center part of the window).
To do this may depend on the file chooser: What I have showing in GIMP right 
now (in Lubuntu Linux) is 
a series of buttons with text above the left and center panes: Data  Scott  
Photos  Abstract.  I want to add Abstract to the left
pane, but I can't, because I am already displaying files in Abstract.  I click 
on Photos, the parent of Abstract.
As it happens, when I do this, Abstact is not only listed in the center now 
(with lots of other stuff), but it is also selected
(hightlighted).  I can now click on the "+" in the left pane, and add it to the 
list of directories listed in the left pane.
Instead of a series of buttons above the left and center panes, you might just 
have a text description of the path to your
file: In my case, it might be  /Data/Scott/Photos/Abstract,  with a button 
containing an arrow pointing up.  If this is the case,
then click on the up-arrow, and your text probably would then say 
/Data/Scott/Photos.
If when you have gone up one level, and displayed the parent directory's 
contents, your directory is not selected, select it.
Then click on the "+" on the left.

What you could also do, instead of adding a directory to the left pane, is to 
first click on "Recently Used" from the File->Open (it may
already be selected), and then click on the last file you edited with GIMP, 
finally clicking on "OK". When you next open or save a file, the
directory in which the file resides (its parent) will now be the Default 
directory (until you close down GIMP again).

[I have already broached the suggestion that the parent directory of the last 
file edited by GIMP be automatically added to rhe Recently Used list (not just 
the file itself), but I don't remember if it was being considered for the next 
version or not...
This way, that directory could be set/accessed in one click (two if Recently 
Used was not already selected on the left), without the necessity of actually 
loading a file one does not want to edit, just to set the directory...]

[May I now suggest, that the "+" and "-" buttons be made more visible?  In my 
setup  (GIMP 2.8.20 under Lubuntu Linux -Default Theme), the Plus and Minus 
seem to be dark grey on what appears to be a medium grey gradient (would that 
be a greydient?). 
I don't think I ever knew that they were there...]
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[Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[Lusus]

When explaining pretty much anything like this online its best to assume the
reader has little or no knowledge of what you're trying to say. Otherwise more
often than not it won't make sense.

I write tutorials as well as read them, and it can be very frustrating when
people cut corners. Quite frankly if you don't give the full information the
reader is looking for, its a waste of both your time and theirs.

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[Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[Lusus]

>On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Andrew Stivelman
> wrote:
>You can add directories to the file chooser:
>
>Go to the parent of the directory you would like to add to the file
>chooser.
>
>Select the directory.
>
>Right click on the left pane and select add.
>
>There is an edit option so you can change the name that is displayed.
>
>Carol Spears

This is confusing. Firstly, where and what is the file chooser?  Secondly what
parent directory and what left pane?

Half explained information isn't really of much use.

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[Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[Lusus]

>That is the Gimp File -> Open dialog.
>
>Bottom left are + & - icons for adding / removing folder locations.
>
>see: example 1
>
>Then when added, click to go straight to the folder
>
>see: example 2

My attempt at explaining this. Full sentences help:

The easiest way to add a default save/export folder is to do it from within
Gimp.

As you’re about to export your image you’ll inevitably be taken to the default
export folder. Navigate to the folder you want to save the image to, then look
to the left of the export window.

Towards the lower left you’ll see a ‘+’ icon below a panel with a few folder
names. Select your preferred folder from the list to the right of the export
window then click the ‘+’ icon to bookmark the folder to the panel.

Gimp may not automatically open this folder when you next export an image, but
it will be easily accessible from this list of bookmarks. Just click it and Gimp
will open it for you to export to.

If this sounds a little confusing, follow the steps with Gimp open and it should
make sense.

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[Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[rich2005]

>This is confusing. Firstly, where and what is the file chooser? 
>Secondly what parent directory and what left pane?
>
>Half explained information isn't really of much use.

That is the Gimp File -> Open dialog.

Bottom left are + & - icons for adding / removing folder locations.

see: example 1

Then when added, click to go straight to the folder

see: example 2

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/575/original/01.jpg
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/576/original/02.jpg

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Re: [Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[Carol Spears]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Andrew Stivelman
 wrote:
> Is there a way to set a default folder as the destination when clicking Save 
> As?  It is kludgy to continually have to change the location each time the 
> file is ready to be exported from the .xcf to another graphic format.  Thanks.
>
>
You can add directories to the file chooser:

Go to the parent of the directory you would like to add to the file chooser.

Select the directory.

Right click on the left pane and select add.

There is an edit option so you can change the name that is displayed.

Carol Spears
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Re: [Gimp-user] Set default Save As folder?

[Partha Bagchi]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Andrew Stivelman 
wrote:

> Is there a way to set a default folder as the destination when clicking
> Save As?  It is kludgy to continually have to change the location each time
> the file is ready to be exported from the .xcf to another graphic format.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Well, the priority for exporting image is as follows:
/* Priority of default paths for Export:
   *
   *   1. Last Export path
   *   2. Path of import source
   *   3. Path of XCF source
   *   4. Last path of any save to XCF
   *   5. Last Export path of any document
   *   6. The default path (usually the OS 'Documents' path)
   */
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