Re[2]: GHC on Snow Leopard: best practices?

2009-10-08 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Barney,

Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:58:01 AM, you wrote:

 Incidentally, 6.12 doesn't appear to be in http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/
   , only in the Darcs repo. Was that intentional?

it's not yet released: http://haskell.org/ghc/


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Best regards,
 Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com

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Re: GHC on Snow Leopard: best practices?

2009-10-08 Thread Manuel M T Chakravarty

David Menendez:

Is there any consensus about what needs to be done to get a working
ghc installation on a Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6) system? The Mac OS
X wiki page[1] currently links to a blog post[2] that recommends
manually patching /usr/bin/ghc, but I have also seen recommendations
that people patch ghci, runhaskell, runghc, and hsc2hs. Is that also
recommended? If so, there should probably be an updated how-to on the
wiki.


Patching /usr/bin/ghc is sufficient to get a version of GHC that  
passes the regression tests suite in fast mode (the same setting  
that the validate script uses).  If you want to use hsc2hs, you need  
to patch that, too.  I haven't found a need to patch the interpreter,  
though.


Manuel

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Re: GHC on Snow Leopard: best practices?

2009-10-08 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 18:32 +1100, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote:
 David Menendez:
  Is there any consensus about what needs to be done to get a working
  ghc installation on a Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6) system? The Mac OS
  X wiki page[1] currently links to a blog post[2] that recommends
  manually patching /usr/bin/ghc, but I have also seen recommendations
  that people patch ghci, runhaskell, runghc, and hsc2hs. Is that also
  recommended? If so, there should probably be an updated how-to on the
  wiki.
 
 Patching /usr/bin/ghc is sufficient to get a version of GHC that  
 passes the regression tests suite in fast mode (the same setting  
 that the validate script uses).  If you want to use hsc2hs, you need  
 to patch that, too.  I haven't found a need to patch the interpreter,  
 though.

And they almost certainly do want hsc2hs (even if they don't know it)
because it's used by all sorts of other libs. The first one people hit
is the zlib binding which is used by cabal-install. It appears to
compile ok but then fails the version check performed by the zlib C
library (eg when someone does cabal update).

Duncan

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Re: Snow Leopard GHC

2009-10-08 Thread Barney Stratford
Latest set of problems. I've tried using the i386 build of GHC 6.10.4  
to build the x86_64 version in the manner that I described in an  
earlier post. I'm not getting any segfaults now, but instead it says  
the following during make:


/Users/bjs/Desktop/GHC_Build/ghc-6.10.4/libraries/cabal-bin /usr/bin/ 
ghc /Users/bjs/Desktop/GHC_Build/ghc-6.10.4/libraries/ 
bootstrapping.conf 1.6.0.3 build --distpref dist-install  --ghc- 
option=-H32m --ghc-option=-O --ghc-option=-I/sw/include --ghc-option=- 
L/sw/lib --ghc-option=-Wall

Preprocessing executables for installPackage-1.0...
Building installPackage-1.0...
[1 of 1] Compiling Main ( installPackage.hs, dist-install/ 
build/installPackage/installPackage-tmp/Main.o )


/var/folders/IZ/IZ09PkvEHBmw7qmXrvZvFE+++TI/-Tmp-/ghc38027_0/ 
ghc38027_0.s:3616:0:

Bignum number illegal. Absolute 0 assumed.

/var/folders/IZ/IZ09PkvEHBmw7qmXrvZvFE+++TI/-Tmp-/ghc38027_0/ 
ghc38027_0.s:3677:0:

Bignum number illegal. Absolute 0 assumed.

/var/folders/IZ/IZ09PkvEHBmw7qmXrvZvFE+++TI/-Tmp-/ghc38027_0/ 
ghc38027_0.s:3709:0:

Bignum number illegal. Absolute 0 assumed.

etc...


Looking in the assembler file, I get stuff like:

Lc4a1:
jmp *-16(%r13)
.long  _s3j4_info - _s3j4_info_dsp
.text
.align 3
_s3lv_info_dsp:
.quad   _Main_a1_srt-(_s3lv_info)+72
.quad   3
.quad   375900174587920
_s3lv_info:
Lc4bb:
leaq -16(%rbp),%rax
cmpq %r14,%rax

(That bignum is at line 3616.) Any ideas what might be causing this?

Cheers,
Barney.

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Re: Ghci dynamic linking (Was: C++ libraries and GHCI)

2009-10-08 Thread C Rodrigues

I've encountered the problem with weak symbols also, and filed a bug report 
against ghc (#).
Weak symbols are used by gcc (with elf) to accommodate C++'s compilation model. 
 In C++, it's permitted to define class methods and template code in header 
files.  Because header files can be included in many source files, the same 
object code will appear in many object files.  It's the linker's job to merge 
these definitions.  There's no standard way of handling C++ linking, 
unfortunately, so handling weak symbols won't necessarily solve the problem for 
every compiler.
If there will be no cross-references involving weak symbols between different 
.a files, such as when you have a C++ library that doesn't depend on other C++ 
libraries, then it should be sufficient to treat a weak defined symbol as 
'defined' and a weak undefined symbol as NULL.  However, I don't know if this 
is really a common case; most C++ code depends on libstdc++, in which case 
there may be multiple weak symbol definitions.
--heatsink
 
 Thanks for the reply, Max.
 
 If it's not something overly complex, I'll try to hack ghc
 to see if I can produce a working patch...
 
 probably that symbol type can be safely ignored by
 ghci linker.
 
 Thanks again for your help
 Paolo
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Max Bolingbroke
 batterseapo...@hotmail.com wrote:
  (Moving to ghc-users)
 
  I'd never seen V in nm output before:
 
  
  The symbol is a weak object.  When a weak defined symbol is linked
  with a normal defined symbol, the normal defined symbol is used with
  no error.  When a weak undefined symbol is linked and the symbol is
  not defined, the value of the  weak symbol becomes zero with no error.
   On some systems, uppercase indicates that a default value has been
  specified.
  
 
  
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Re: GHC on Snow Leopard: best practices?

2009-10-08 Thread Simon Marlow

On 07/10/2009 21:58, Barney Stratford wrote:

I'm back in Cambridge now. Snowdonia was great, and just as wet as
expected.

As far as I'm aware, nobody's got a fully functioning Snow Leopard GHC
yet. Just before going away, I tried to use my partly-functioning 64-bit
GHC to build 6.10, but found that the stage 1 compiler segfaulted.

My plan now is to get 6.8.3 fully working so that we all have something,
if a little old, that works. (This is because I need it for another
project.) Once I've managed this, I'll post a full set of instructions
to get everyone else going too. Then I plan to attempt to get 6.12
working, and provide a binary that can be used for bootstrapping. (I may
need some pointers for this.)

Incidentally, 6.12 doesn't appear to be in
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/ , only in the Darcs repo. Was that
intentional?

So far, the sticking point has been getting the interactive linker to
work. Snow Leopard has much tighter security than its predecessors, so
we have to use mmap. Unfortunately, the mmap version of GHC's linker
also requires mremap, which is a Linux-only extension that Snow Leopard
doesn't have.


I believe we fixed the mremap dependency in 6.10, and that was also when 
we added support for libffi.  I expect you'll have a much easier time 
getting GHCi to work with 6.10 or 6.12, so use 6.8.x for bootstrapping only.


Cheers,
Simon
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Re: Snow Leopard GHC

2009-10-08 Thread Barney Stratford
So which compiler is generating the bogus code here?  Is this the  
stage1 x86-64 compiler, or the i386 compiler?
It's the stage1 x86_64 compiler. The problem here is that  
375900174587920 doesn't even fit into 64 bits, hence the  
assembler's complaint.


Cheers,
Barney.
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Re: Snow Leopard GHC

2009-10-08 Thread Simon Marlow

On 08/10/2009 15:07, Barney Stratford wrote:

So which compiler is generating the bogus code here?  Is this the
stage1 x86-64 compiler, or the i386 compiler?

It's the stage1 x86_64 compiler. The problem here is that
375900174587920 doesn't even fit into 64 bits, hence the
assembler's complaint.


Yes, I see that.  GHC keeps these values as Integers internally, so it's 
possible that some misconfiguration has caused it to produce a values 
that's out of range, although I agree that the fact that it is bigger 
than even 2^64 is quite suspicious.


I suggest dumping out some intermediate code, e.g. -dppr-cmm 
-dppr-opt-cmm.  If that fails to narrow it down, then you may need to 
add some debug traces the native code generator to find out where these 
values are coming from.


Cheers,
Simon
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Ghci fails to load modules, but ghc compiles OK

2009-10-08 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I've been using ghc 6.10.3 on 64-bit Linux to compile my application,
and it runs OK, modulo bugs.

I want to debug a problem, so I load it in ghci, but when i type main
I get:

 Loading package network-2.2.1.1 ... 

GHCi runtime linker: fatal error: I found a duplicate definition for symbol
   my_inet_ntoa
whilst processing object file
   /usr/lib64/ghc-6.10.3/network-2.2.1.1/HSnetwork-2.2.1.1.o
This could be caused by:
   * Loading two different object files which export the same symbol
   * Specifying the same object file twice on the GHCi command line
   * An incorrect `package.conf' entry, causing some object to be
 loaded twice.
GHCi cannot safely continue in this situation.  Exiting now.  Sorry.

Why would ghci have a problem, but not ghc?
-- 
Colin Adams
Preston Lancashire
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