[gmx-users] implicit solvent system set up

2011-06-21 Thread E. Nihal Korkmaz
Dear all,

This may sound stupid, but just to make sure that I am right track about
implicit solvent simulations, the set up involves
pdb2gmx
editconf
grompp

I mean, we still need to define the box dimensions by editconf and apply
periodicity, right?
Besides, what type of ensemble would be a good choice (NPT, NVT, etc)?

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error during executing the protein ligand tutorial

2011-06-21 Thread bharat gupta
I fixed it ... but now after using the command : grompp -f em.mdp -c
solv.gro -p topol.top -o ions.tpr

I am getting a charge of  -9.71e-01


Since the charge has to be in whole number, what shall I do in this case.
(The ligand that I am using is phosphotyrosine)


On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 21/06/2011 3:03 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Now I changed the .top file in this way and I am getting this error now :-

 change :- ; Include forcefield parameters
 #include charmm27.ff/forcefield.itp

 ;Include ligand topology
 #include PTR.itp

 [ moleculetype ]
 ; Namenrexcl
 Protein_chain_A 3

 =

 error:-


 Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'title'

 Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.8#
 Generated 23220 of the 23220 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 20092 of the 23220 1-4 parameter combinations
 Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_A'

 --**-
 Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
 Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1987

 Fatal error:
 No such moleculetype LIG
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
 GROMACS
 website at 
 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/Errorshttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 --**-


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Re: [gmx-users] minimum image violation

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Abraham

On 21/06/2011 3:43 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Sir,

 I am extremely sorry for this question again :(
but I wanted to know this violation exists only in
first 50ns but after that even though there appears
to be a point of violation its only 1.39nm which is
o0.01nm less than the cut off which I hope does
not cause serious trouble (as the minimum bond
length is of the order of 1 Angs) So can I make use
of this part of trajectory?


The purpose of the minimum image convention is to help model the real 
conditions under which your protein exists. The usual case is one of 
(effectively) infinite dilution. However, if you have a protein atom 
that is influenced by an atom of a periodic image of the protein, then 
you are not close to modeling infinite dilution. Arguably, a water atom 
that can see two different periodic images is also unrealistic, but 
probably this will be a lower-order effect, and vary from case to case.


So as soon as you get a violation, further data about your system is 
tainted from the previous existence of unrealistic conditions. Even just 
looking at the first part of the simulation before the violation 
(assuming it has equilibrated properly so far) is questionable, because 
you have imposed on its ensemble the restriction that it cannot grow 
larger than a given diameter for a given orientation. It's up to you to 
judge whether the effect is small enough to ignore, and that depends on 
lots of things we can't know.


There exist a large number of areas of biomolecular simulations where 
our inability to exhaustively sample ensembles has limited our ability 
to quantify the size of various effects. The effect of violations of 
minimum-image conventions on proteins is one of those areas.


The important lesson here is that doing a simulation blindly runs a 
large risk of wasting resources. Ongoing attention to lots of details is 
important. As in many fields of human endeavour, there are lots of 
lessons that have been written in the blood of unfortunate people before 
you. In research, there will be lessons written in your blood. The trick 
is to learn from the former in order to minimize the latter :-)


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error during executing the protein ligand tutorial

2011-06-21 Thread bharat gupta
So, after adding 1 NA ion, I started with energy mimization, but I am
getting the following error after md run command :-

Step=1, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.36889e+09 Fmax= 1.97591e+11, atom=
1248
Step=2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot=  5.46814e+07 Fmax= 3.57239e+09, atom=
972
Step=3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  8.68244e+06 Fmax= 5.80655e+08, atom=
1253
Step=4, Dmax= 1.7e-02 nm, Epot=  3.33619e+06 Fmax= 9.98000e+07, atom=
1248
Step=5, Dmax= 2.1e-02 nm, Epot=  2.30163e+06 Fmax= 1.19057e+07, atom=
1253
Step=6, Dmax= 2.5e-02 nm, Epot=  2.07254e+06 Fmax= 3.20568e+06, atom=
1304
Step=7, Dmax= 3.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.97667e+06 Fmax= 1.59513e+06, atom=
1045
Step=8, Dmax= 3.6e-02 nm, Epot=  1.85877e+06 Fmax= 8.25518e+05, atom=
3616
Step=9, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot=  1.66148e+06 Fmax= 7.69483e+05, atom=
3616
Step=   10, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot=  1.43976e+06 Fmax= 6.47087e+05, atom=
3616
Step=   11, Dmax= 6.2e-02 nm, Epot=  1.16869e+06 Fmax= 6.39015e+05, atom=
3616
Step=   12, Dmax= 7.4e-02 nm, Epot=  8.84664e+05 Fmax= 5.75494e+05, atom=
3616
Step=   13, Dmax= 8.9e-02 nm, Epot=  6.62825e+05 Fmax= 1.01984e+07, atom=
47956

step 14: Water molecule starting at atom 47956 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   15, Dmax= 5.3e-02 nm, Epot=  5.67330e+05 Fmax= 5.36987e+05, atom=
36166
Step=   16, Dmax= 6.4e-02 nm, Epot=  3.51341e+05 Fmax= 4.19647e+05, atom=
3619
Step=   17, Dmax= 7.7e-02 nm, Epot=  6.34731e+04 Fmax= 1.56555e+06, atom=
3616
Step=   18, Dmax= 9.2e-02 nm, Epot= -2.03364e+04 Fmax= 4.60916e+05, atom=
3616
Step=   19, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -3.50504e+05 Fmax= 1.53090e+06, atom=
213514

step 20: Water molecule starting at atom 213514 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   20, Dmax= 1.3e-01 nm, Epot= -4.11692e+05 Fmax= 4.49357e+05, atom=
3619
Step=   21, Dmax= 1.6e-01 nm, Epot= -4.87207e+05 Fmax= 3.39700e+07, atom=
3629
Step=   22, Dmax= 1.9e-01 nm, Epot= -7.85503e+05 Fmax= 3.56083e+05, atom=
3619

step 23: Water molecule starting at atom 206593 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.

step 23: Water molecule starting at atom 212776 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   23, Dmax= 2.3e-01 nm, Epot=  1.95863e+09 Fmax= 6.76309e+11, atom=
3633
step 24: Water molecule starting at atom 212776 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   25, Dmax= 5.8e-02 nm, Epot= -9.28980e+05 Fmax= 2.81692e+05, atom=
362976

step 26: Water molecule starting at atom 42463 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   27, Dmax= 3.5e-02 nm, Epot= -1.03111e+06 Fmax= 2.76677e+05, atom=
36293
Step=   28, Dmax= 4.1e-02 nm, Epot= -1.14733e+06 Fmax= 2.66398e+05, atom=
3629
Step=   29, Dmax= 5.0e-02 nm, Epot= -1.26821e+06 Fmax= 2.51779e+05, atom=
3629
Step=   30, Dmax= 6.0e-02 nm, Epot= -1.42873e+06 Fmax= 2.31393e+05, atom=
3629
Step=   31, Dmax= 7.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.59623e+06 Fmax= 3.53379e+06, atom=
3633

step 32: Water molecule starting at atom 292885 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   33, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot= -1.62300e+06 Fmax= 2.45780e+05, atom=
361985
Step=   34, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.75124e+06 Fmax= 2.87155e+05, atom=
213958
Step=   35, Dmax= 6.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.86014e+06 Fmax= 6.76483e+05, atom=
3634

step 36: Water molecule starting at atom 256024 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   36, Dmax= 7.4e-02 nm, Epot= -1.91639e+06 Fmax= 2.49523e+05, atom=
3619
Step=   37, Dmax= 8.9e-02 nm, Epot= -2.11154e+06 Fmax= 4.87466e+05, atom=
3636
Step=   38, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -2.20858e+06 Fmax= 1.92308e+05, atom=
3629
Step=   40, Dmax= 6.4e-02 nm, Epot= -2.34036e+06 Fmax= 3.07614e+06, atom=
3634
Step=   41, Dmax= 7.7e-02 nm, Epot= -2.36181e+06 Fmax= 1.95100e+05, atom=
3634
Step=   42, Dmax= 9.2e-02 nm, Epot= -2.55367e+06 Fmax= 1.66837e+05, atom=
3629
Step=   43, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -2.67052e+06 Fmax= 1.01067e+07, atom=
3618
Step=   44, Dmax= 1.3e-01 nm, Epot= -2.76975e+06 Fmax= 2.25183e+05, atom=
3618
Step=   45, Dmax= 1.6e-01 nm, Epot= -2.95070e+06 Fmax= 5.66364e+05, atom=
3614

step 46: Water molecule starting at atom 249877 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.

step 46: Water molecule starting at atom 85966 can not be 

[gmx-users] cosine content

2011-06-21 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users,

   When are checking the cosine content of a PC, (Pls. Correct me if I am
wrong)
This is the command we use -
g_analyze -f input-principle-component.xvg -cc outputcosine
content.xvg

and for first PC output says -
Cosine content of set 1 with 0.5 periods: ---

for nth PC also it says -
Cosine content of set 1 with 0.5 periods: ---

Where does this get the information that the cosine wave that it has to
fit is half the eigenvector rank? is it y axis label ?

Thank you
With regards
M. Kavyashree
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error during executing the protein ligand tutorial

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Abraham

On 21/06/2011 4:15 PM, bharat gupta wrote:
I fixed it ... but now after using the command : grompp -f em.mdp -c 
solv.gro -p topol.top -o ions.tpr


I am getting a charge of  -9.71e-01


Since the charge has to be in whole number, what shall I do in this 
case. (The ligand that I am using is phosphotyrosine)


OK, that's what I expected you were doing - truncating the output and 
not rounding appropriately. See 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Floating_Point_Arithmetic again - 
I've updated it to deal with this issue more explicitly.


Mark



On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 21/06/2011 3:03 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

Now I changed the .top file in this way and I am getting this
error now :-

change :- ; Include forcefield parameters
#include charmm27.ff/forcefield.itp

;Include ligand topology
#include PTR.itp

[ moleculetype ]
; Namenrexcl
Protein_chain_A 3

=

error:-


Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'title'

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.8#
Generated 23220 of the 23220 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 20092 of the 23220 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_A'

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1987

Fatal error:
No such moleculetype LIG
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please
check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---


You have to make an attempt to solve your own problems :-) We have
better things to do than oversee every move you make. Follow that
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error during executing the protein ligand tutorial

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Abraham

On 21/06/2011 4:33 PM, bharat gupta wrote:
So, after adding 1 NA ion, I started with energy mimization, but I am 
getting the following error after md run command :-


Please search for help first.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#LINCS.2fSETTLE.2fSHAKE_warnings

Mark

Step=1, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.36889e+09 Fmax= 1.97591e+11, 
atom= 1248
Step=2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot=  5.46814e+07 Fmax= 3.57239e+09, 
atom= 972
Step=3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  8.68244e+06 Fmax= 5.80655e+08, 
atom= 1253
Step=4, Dmax= 1.7e-02 nm, Epot=  3.33619e+06 Fmax= 9.98000e+07, 
atom= 1248
Step=5, Dmax= 2.1e-02 nm, Epot=  2.30163e+06 Fmax= 1.19057e+07, 
atom= 1253
Step=6, Dmax= 2.5e-02 nm, Epot=  2.07254e+06 Fmax= 3.20568e+06, 
atom= 1304
Step=7, Dmax= 3.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.97667e+06 Fmax= 1.59513e+06, 
atom= 1045
Step=8, Dmax= 3.6e-02 nm, Epot=  1.85877e+06 Fmax= 8.25518e+05, 
atom= 3616
Step=9, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot=  1.66148e+06 Fmax= 7.69483e+05, 
atom= 3616
Step=   10, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot=  1.43976e+06 Fmax= 6.47087e+05, 
atom= 3616
Step=   11, Dmax= 6.2e-02 nm, Epot=  1.16869e+06 Fmax= 6.39015e+05, 
atom= 3616
Step=   12, Dmax= 7.4e-02 nm, Epot=  8.84664e+05 Fmax= 5.75494e+05, 
atom= 3616
Step=   13, Dmax= 8.9e-02 nm, Epot=  6.62825e+05 Fmax= 1.01984e+07, 
atom= 47956


step 14: Water molecule starting at atom 47956 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   15, Dmax= 5.3e-02 nm, Epot=  5.67330e+05 Fmax= 5.36987e+05, 
atom= 36166
Step=   16, Dmax= 6.4e-02 nm, Epot=  3.51341e+05 Fmax= 4.19647e+05, 
atom= 3619
Step=   17, Dmax= 7.7e-02 nm, Epot=  6.34731e+04 Fmax= 1.56555e+06, 
atom= 3616
Step=   18, Dmax= 9.2e-02 nm, Epot= -2.03364e+04 Fmax= 4.60916e+05, 
atom= 3616
Step=   19, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -3.50504e+05 Fmax= 1.53090e+06, 
atom= 213514


step 20: Water molecule starting at atom 213514 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   20, Dmax= 1.3e-01 nm, Epot= -4.11692e+05 Fmax= 4.49357e+05, 
atom= 3619
Step=   21, Dmax= 1.6e-01 nm, Epot= -4.87207e+05 Fmax= 3.39700e+07, 
atom= 3629
Step=   22, Dmax= 1.9e-01 nm, Epot= -7.85503e+05 Fmax= 3.56083e+05, 
atom= 3619


step 23: Water molecule starting at atom 206593 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.

step 23: Water molecule starting at atom 212776 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   23, Dmax= 2.3e-01 nm, Epot=  1.95863e+09 Fmax= 6.76309e+11, 
atom= 3633

step 24: Water molecule starting at atom 212776 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   25, Dmax= 5.8e-02 nm, Epot= -9.28980e+05 Fmax= 2.81692e+05, 
atom= 362976


step 26: Water molecule starting at atom 42463 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   27, Dmax= 3.5e-02 nm, Epot= -1.03111e+06 Fmax= 2.76677e+05, 
atom= 36293
Step=   28, Dmax= 4.1e-02 nm, Epot= -1.14733e+06 Fmax= 2.66398e+05, 
atom= 3629
Step=   29, Dmax= 5.0e-02 nm, Epot= -1.26821e+06 Fmax= 2.51779e+05, 
atom= 3629
Step=   30, Dmax= 6.0e-02 nm, Epot= -1.42873e+06 Fmax= 2.31393e+05, 
atom= 3629
Step=   31, Dmax= 7.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.59623e+06 Fmax= 3.53379e+06, 
atom= 3633


step 32: Water molecule starting at atom 292885 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   33, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot= -1.62300e+06 Fmax= 2.45780e+05, 
atom= 361985
Step=   34, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.75124e+06 Fmax= 2.87155e+05, 
atom= 213958
Step=   35, Dmax= 6.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.86014e+06 Fmax= 6.76483e+05, 
atom= 3634


step 36: Water molecule starting at atom 256024 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   36, Dmax= 7.4e-02 nm, Epot= -1.91639e+06 Fmax= 2.49523e+05, 
atom= 3619
Step=   37, Dmax= 8.9e-02 nm, Epot= -2.11154e+06 Fmax= 4.87466e+05, 
atom= 3636
Step=   38, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -2.20858e+06 Fmax= 1.92308e+05, 
atom= 3629
Step=   40, Dmax= 6.4e-02 nm, Epot= -2.34036e+06 Fmax= 3.07614e+06, 
atom= 3634
Step=   41, Dmax= 7.7e-02 nm, Epot= -2.36181e+06 Fmax= 1.95100e+05, 
atom= 3634
Step=   42, Dmax= 9.2e-02 nm, Epot= -2.55367e+06 Fmax= 1.66837e+05, 
atom= 3629
Step=   43, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -2.67052e+06 Fmax= 1.01067e+07, 
atom= 3618
Step=   44, Dmax= 1.3e-01 nm, Epot= -2.76975e+06 Fmax= 2.25183e+05, 
atom= 3618
Step=   45, Dmax= 1.6e-01 nm, Epot= -2.95070e+06 Fmax= 5.66364e+05, 

[gmx-users] How to calculate RMSD per residue with Gromacs ?

2011-06-21 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
How to calculate RMSD per residue with Gromacs ?

Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] radius of gyration - compactness - accessible surface area

2011-06-21 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Shahab,

When comparing two variables, they have to share an axis. Time for instance...

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:36 AM, shahab shariati
shahab.shari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Tsjerk

 thanks for your attention.

  larger radius of gyration, more surface. and smaller radius of
 gyration, less surface.

 I want to obtain solvent accessible surface area using g_sas.


 g_sas -f *.xtc -s *.tpr -n *.ndx -o -or -oa.

 I will obtain three output files containing: area.xvg, resarea.xvg and
 atomarea.xvg

 If I want to obtain average of ASA  to compare with Rg (I want to know

 in my system, with increase of Rg, how do ASA
 change?), which of above output files are suitable for this aim?


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Re: [gmx-users] implicit solvent system set up

2011-06-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



E. Nihal Korkmaz wrote:

Dear all,

This may sound stupid, but just to make sure that I am right track about 
implicit solvent simulations, the set up involves

pdb2gmx
editconf
grompp

I mean, we still need to define the box dimensions by editconf and apply 
periodicity, right?


Not usually.  Proper settings usually include pbc = no and long cutoffs.  This 
has been discussed at length in the list archive.



Besides, what type of ensemble would be a good choice (NPT, NVT, etc)?



Typically NVT.  There is nothing compressible for NPT to act upon - you have, 
e.g., a protein in an imaginary bath of solvent.  If you apply NPT conditions, 
the box will just collapse in on itself.


-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] How to calculate RMSD per residue with Gromacs ?

2011-06-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
How to calculate RMSD per residue with Gromacs ?


g_rmsf -od

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[gmx-users] radius of gyration - compactness - accessible surface area

2011-06-21 Thread shahab shariati
Dear Tsjerk

very thanks for your useful guidance.

I now know that I should compare output of g_gyrate (containing Rg vs time)
by area.xvg output file of g_sas (containing area vs time).

In area.xvg output file, there are several columns: Hydrophobic,
Hydrophilic and Total.

for example in time, 100 ps:

10035.9501 60.9389 96.8891

area is in nm2.

from above number I understand that 35.9501 nm2 of area of protein that is
accessible to solvent belongs to
hydrophobic part of protein.

and 60.9389 nm2 of area of protein that is accessible to solvent belongs to
hydrophilic part of protein.

is my understanding true?

any help will highly appreciated.
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[gmx-users] xvg plotting

2011-06-21 Thread Nicole Varvarigou
Hi,
I am a new user in gromacs and i would like to create a plot from several
.xvg files. Can anyone guide me through the process?

Thank you in advance

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Re: [gmx-users] xvg plotting

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Abraham

On 21/06/2011 7:40 PM, Nicole Varvarigou wrote:

Hi,
I am a new user in gromacs and i would like to create a plot from 
several .xvg files. Can anyone guide me through the process?


That's not really the purpose of this list, which is for GROMACS-related 
questions. I can suggest that you look for tutorial material on your 
plotting tool of choice (e.g. grace, gnuplot), which should take you 
most of the way towards such a solution.


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Re: [gmx-users] radius of gyration - compactness - accessible surface area

2011-06-21 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
You understand correctly.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:35 AM, shahab shariati
shahab.shari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Tsjerk

 very thanks for your useful guidance.

 I now know that I should compare output of g_gyrate (containing Rg vs time)
 by area.xvg output file of g_sas (containing area vs time).

 In area.xvg output file, there are several columns: Hydrophobic,
 Hydrophilic and Total.

 for example in time, 100 ps:

 100    35.9501 60.9389 96.8891

 area is in nm2.

 from above number I understand that 35.9501 nm2 of area of protein that is
 accessible to solvent belongs to
 hydrophobic part of protein.

 and 60.9389 nm2 of area of protein that is accessible to solvent belongs to
 hydrophilic part of protein.

 is my understanding true?

 any help will highly appreciated.



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[gmx-users] xvg plotting

2011-06-21 Thread leila karami
Hi Nicole

In linux/unix, there are a program named xmgr aor xmgrace by default.

Just you type in command line : xmgr 1.xvg 2.xvg 3.xvg  ..



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[gmx-users] PMF analysis and pull_dim (Step 6 of Justin's tutorial)

2011-06-21 Thread Shay Teaching
Dear Gromacs Users,

I've done Justin's tutorial regarding PMF/umbrella sampling and now, when
approaching my own system I have a couple of questions.
(Link to the tutorial here:
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/umbrella/06_umbrella.html)

My system is comprise of a transport protein (embedded in membrane) and a
ligand. The system is positions so that Z axis is the axis on which I've
made PMF windows.
The next step on this is to run these windows separately and I didn't quite
understand why in step-6 of the tutorial it specifies to still use pull_dim
= N N Y and pull_rate1 = 0.0.

As far as I understood, during the production run we want to sample the Z
position. Shouldn't then it use pull_dim = Y Y N ?
And what does it mean to the system when we set pull_rate1 = 0.0 ?
Does it mean that when pull_dim = N N Y and pull_rate1 = 0.0 it restrains
pull_group0 on the Z-axis?

This came a bit longish,
Thanks in advance,

-Shay

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Re: [gmx-users] PMF analysis and pull_dim (Step 6 of Justin's tutorial)

2011-06-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Shay Teaching wrote:

Dear Gromacs Users,

I've done Justin's tutorial regarding PMF/umbrella sampling and now, 
when approaching my own system I have a couple of questions.
(Link to the tutorial here: 
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/umbrella/06_umbrella.html 
)


My system is comprise of a transport protein (embedded in membrane) and 
a ligand. The system is positions so that Z axis is the axis on which 
I've made PMF windows.
The next step on this is to run these windows separately and I didn't 
quite understand why in step-6 of the tutorial it specifies to still use 
pull_dim = N N Y and pull_rate1 = 0.0.


As far as I understood, during the production run we want to sample the 
Z position. Shouldn't then it use pull_dim = Y Y N ?


No, that would confine the pulled group to the x-y plane, but allow it to move 
freely in z.



And what does it mean to the system when we set pull_rate1 = 0.0 ?


The harmonic restraint is applied to pull_group1 such that there is no net 
change in position.


Does it mean that when pull_dim = N N Y and pull_rate1 = 0.0 it 
restrains pull_group0 on the Z-axis?




Not pull_group0 (which is the reference group), but pull_group1.  Otherwise, 
yes.

-Justin


This came a bit longish,
Thanks in advance,

-Shay

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Re: [gmx-users] PMF analysis and pull_dim (Step 6 of Justin's tutorial)

2011-06-21 Thread Shay Teaching
Thanks for you prompt reply! Clear and to the point.
-Shay

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Shay Teaching wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,

 I've done Justin's tutorial regarding PMF/umbrella sampling and now, when
 approaching my own system I have a couple of questions.
 (Link to the tutorial here: http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**
 vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/**gmx-tutorials/umbrella/06_**umbrella.htmlhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/umbrella/06_umbrella.html)

 My system is comprise of a transport protein (embedded in membrane) and a
 ligand. The system is positions so that Z axis is the axis on which I've
 made PMF windows.
 The next step on this is to run these windows separately and I didn't
 quite understand why in step-6 of the tutorial it specifies to still use
 pull_dim = N N Y and pull_rate1 = 0.0.

 As far as I understood, during the production run we want to sample the Z
 position. Shouldn't then it use pull_dim = Y Y N ?


 No, that would confine the pulled group to the x-y plane, but allow it to
 move freely in z.


  And what does it mean to the system when we set pull_rate1 = 0.0 ?


 The harmonic restraint is applied to pull_group1 such that there is no net
 change in position.


  Does it mean that when pull_dim = N N Y and pull_rate1 = 0.0 it restrains
 pull_group0 on the Z-axis?


 Not pull_group0 (which is the reference group), but pull_group1.
  Otherwise, yes.

 -Justin


  This came a bit longish,
 Thanks in advance,

 -Shay

 P.S.
 Using Gromacs 4.0.7




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[gmx-users] query regarding g_ras command

2011-06-21 Thread rashi parihar
I want to obtain solvent accessible surface area using g_sas command:


g_sas -f *.xtc -s *.tpr -n *.ndx -o -or -oa.plz tell me the full
command as i am getting error while running this command.thanx in
advance!!

how I will obtain three output files containing: area.xvg, resarea.xvg
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[gmx-users] g_msd uncertainty

2011-06-21 Thread Ivan Gladich

Dear Gromacs community
 I would like to better understand how the uncertainty on the 
diffusion coefficient is calculated in GROMACS.
I am calculating water diffusivity for different water models at 
different temperatures.

I am using Gomacs 4.5.4


Reading the manual, I am a bit confused on how g_msd calculate the 
uncertainty on the average.

Indeed, the manual told me (pag 285-286)

1)

g_msd computes the mean square displacement (MSD) of atoms from a set 
of initial positions. This
provides an easy way to compute the diffusion constant using the 
Einstein relation. The time between the
reference points for the MSD calculation is set with -trestart. The 
diffusion constant is calculated by
least squares fitting a straight line (D*t + c) through the MSD(t) from 
-beginfit to -endfit (note that t
is time from the reference positions, not simulation time). An error 
estimate given, which is the difference
of the diffusion coefficients obtained from fits over the two halves of 
the fit interval.



2) By the way, few lines below


The diffusion coefficient is determined by linear regression of the MSD,
where, unlike for the normal output of D, the times are weighted 
according to

the number of reference points, i.e. short times have a higher weight. Also
when -beginfit=-1,fitting starts at 10% and when -endfit=-1, fitting goes to
90%.Using this option one also gets an accurate error estimate based on the
statistics between individual molecules. Note that this diffusion 
coefficient

and error estimate are only accurate when the MSD is completely linear
between -beginfit and -endfit.

Based on this last paragraph, I suppose that g_msd calculates for each 
molecule the diffusion coefficient and then it calculates the average 
and standard deviation from the daset of the diffusion coefficients of 
each molecules.


So, if I compute

g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n index.ndx.ndx -o msd.xvg -b 0 -e 
10 -beginfit 15000 -endfit 25000 -trestart 10 -type z


at the top of my output file msd.xvg I can read

# MSD gathered over 10 ps with 10001 restarts
# Diffusion constants fitted from time 1500 to 25000 ps
# D[all_10] = 0.1230 (+/- 0.0060) (1e-5 cm^2/s)


So, 0.0060 is one standard deviation based on the statistic between 
different molecules (second method) or is calculated using the 
difference of the diffusion coefficient on the two halves of the fitting 
region (first method)?


I was searching in the mail list without success...thanks for any help

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Re: [gmx-users] query regarding g_ras command

2011-06-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rashi parihar wrote:

I want to obtain solvent accessible surface area using g_sas command:


g_sas -f *.xtc -s *.tpr -n *.ndx -o -or -oa.plz tell me the full command as i 
am getting error while running this command.thanx in advance!!




To get an answer you need to provide an actual command and the actual error 
message.  There's nothing informative here.


-Justin


how I will obtain three output files containing: area.xvg, resarea.xvg and 
atomarea.xvg



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Re: [gmx-users] query regarding g_ras command

2011-06-21 Thread rashi parihar
thanx justin..my problem is that i do not know exactly the syntax of
command.i get to know about this command through this community only.i.e why
i want the full  command?

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 rashi parihar wrote:

 I want to obtain solvent accessible surface area using g_sas command:


 g_sas -f *.xtc -s *.tpr -n *.ndx -o -or -oa.plz tell me the full command
 as i am getting error while running this command.thanx in advance!!



 To get an answer you need to provide an actual command and the actual error
 message.  There's nothing informative here.

 -Justin

  how I will obtain three output files containing: area.xvg, resarea.xvg and
 atomarea.xvg



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Re: [gmx-users] query regarding g_ras command

2011-06-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rashi parihar wrote:
thanx justin..my problem is that i do not know exactly the syntax of 
command.i get to know about this command through this community only.i.e 
why i want the full  command?




Please read the contents of the manual about g_sas and/or g_sas -h for a full 
list of options (like you can do for all Gromacs programs).  You said you were 
getting an error - is that true?  If you have an error message, post it and 
likely someone will know how to fix it.  If you simply don't know how to run a 
command, then say so, but the solution is always going to be the -h option.


-Justin

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
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rashi parihar wrote:

I want to obtain solvent accessible surface area using g_sas
command:


g_sas -f *.xtc -s *.tpr -n *.ndx -o -or -oa.plz tell me the full
command as i am getting error while running this command.thanx
in advance!!



To get an answer you need to provide an actual command and the
actual error message.  There's nothing informative here.

-Justin

how I will obtain three output files containing: area.xvg,
resarea.xvg and atomarea.xvg



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Re: [gmx-users] Questions about GB parameters

2011-06-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul


Can anyone comment further on either of these issues?

-Justin

Mark Abraham wrote:

On 15/06/2011 4:24 AM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


Hi All,

I wanted to dig up an old discussion that hit the list a long time ago 
because I'm now encountering some problems understanding the GB 
settings myself.  The discussion in question is here:


http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-August/053373.html

I wanted to post a couple of questions based on Per's response.

1. Based on that post, it seems to me that the value in the gbr column 
should have a dielectric offset added to it during the GB 
calculations.  In the code, though (genborn.c, around line 484 in the 
latest release-4-5-patches), it looks like the dielectric offset is 
subtracted, not added.  I guess the code is reversing the process, 
going from GB radius back to vdW radius by subtracting the dielectric 
offset?  It seems, then, that the parameters in gbsa.itp should 
specify GB radii, not vdW radii, though the manual says the gbr column 
is atomic van der Waals radii, which are used in computing the Born 
radii.  Is the opposite actually true?


It does look to me as though something is mis-sense here. The quantity 
given in gb_dielectric_offset is always subtracted from a value that I 
think is found in the gbr column of [implicit_genborn_parameters].


Mark

2. I am still unclear on the source of the HCT scaling factors.  From 
the reference cited in the manual, it would seem that scaling factors 
are interaction-dependent, at least when H atoms are concerned.  I 
also cannot find any indication of where these values came from.  None 
of the values of Table 2 in the HCT reference match the contents of 
the hct column.  Again I wonder if I'm missing something obvious :)


Thanks for any insight!

-Justin





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[gmx-users] Re: Fw: properdihedrals

2011-06-21 Thread Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Dear Prema:

1. Do you think my e-mail is an alias for gromacs mailing list, please? I am
not sure.

2. What about downloading the manual and referring yourself to the section
where topology files are described?


Enjoy gromaxing...

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On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Prema Awati prem...@iiserpune.ac.inwrote:



 *-- Original Message --*
 From: prem...@iiserpune.ac.in
 To: gmxus...@gromacs.org
 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:25:51 +0530 (GMT+05:30)
 Subject: properdihedrals

 Sir,
 I am looking forward for your help to calculate Ryckaert-Belleman's (RB)
 coefficients using proper dihedrals.Is there any way to get Fourier
 coefficients value from the equation;
 Vd (φijkl ) = kφ (1 + cos(nφ - φs )) ; so that I can use it in following
 way to get RB coefficients;

 C0 = F2 + 1 (F1 + F3 )
 C1 = 1 (-F1 + 3 F3 )
 C2 = -F2 + 4 F4
 C3 = -2 F3
 C4 = -4 F4
 C5 = 0
 I am referring Gromacs-4.5.3 manual for the above conversion.
 Looking for your quick response
 Thankyou.

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[gmx-users] Fw: properdihedrals

2011-06-21 Thread Prema Awati
 








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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:25:51 +0530 
(GMT+05:30)

Subject: properdihedrals



Sir,

I am looking forward for your help to calculate 
Ryckaert-Belleman's (RB) coefficients using proper dihedrals.Is there any way 
to get Fourier coefficients value from the equation;

Vd (?ijkl ) = k? (1 + cos(n? ? ?s )) ; so that 
I can use it in following way to get RB coefficients;



C0 = F2 + 1 (F1 + F3 )

C1 = 1 (?F1 + 3 F3 )

C2 = ?F2 + 4 F4

C3 = ?2 F3

C4 = ?4 F4

C5 = 0

I am referring Gromacs-4.5.3 manual for the 
above conversion.

Looking for your quick response

Thankyou.





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[gmx-users] classic Ewald pressure tensor

2011-06-21 Thread Elizabeth Ploetz
Greetings Gromacs Users,

I have run single precision isothermal-isobaric ensemble simulations using 
particle mesh Ewald (PME) (in Gromacs 4.0.5) and compared the results to those 
of (what I think should be) equivalent single precision simulations using the 
classic implementation of Ewald.  The systems under study are binary mixtures 
of methanol + water at 300 K and 1 bar across the full composition range.  The 
classic Ewald simulations have a more negative total potential energy (PE) for 
each composition, with the difference increasing as the mole fraction of 
methanol increases.  The reduced PE differences, (PME total PE - Ewald total 
PE)/RT (angled brackets denote time averages), range between 0.29 for pure 
water and 0.93 for pure methanol.  When starting an Ewald simulation from a 
structure that was equilibrated with PME, convergence to the more negative 
(incorrect) Ewald potential energy takes place within approximately twenty 
picoseconds.  The box volume also decreases in the classic Ewald simulations 
e.g., to 81% of its original volume in the equimolar methanol + water 
composition.  A test of the number of lattice vectors used in the simulations 
shows that the results are converged.  All the simulations employ the 
Nose-Hoover thermostat and the Parrinello-Rahman barostat.

Canonical ensemble classic Ewald simulations do however reproduce the canonical 
and isothermal-isobaric PME average total PE, however the pressure is 
incorrect, averaging ~-5,000 bar.  

Below my message, please find the mdp file used in the classic Ewald 
simulations.  The only differences between the mdp file below and that used in 
the PME simulations are the following lines:
coulombtype  = PME  
fourierspacing   = 0.12

Is it possible that the pressure tensor is incorrect in the classic Ewald code?
 
Sincerely,

Elizabeth Ploetz

;
;   File 'mdout.mdp' was generated
;   By user: onbekend (0)
;   On host: onbekend
;   At date: Tue Dec 23 12:23:42 2008
;

; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS
title= 
; Preprocessor - specify a full path if necessary.
cpp  = /lib/cpp
include  = 
define   =  

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = md
; Start time and timestep in ps
tinit= 1
dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 50   
; For exact run continuation or redoing part of a run
init_step= 0
; mode for center of mass motion removal
comm-mode= Linear
; number of steps for center of mass motion removal
nstcomm  = 500
; group(s) for center of mass motion removal
comm-grps= 

; LANGEVIN DYNAMICS OPTIONS
; Friction coefficient (amu/ps) and random seed
bd-fric  = 0
ld-seed  = 1993

; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS
; Force tolerance and initial step-size
emtol= 10
emstep   = 0.01
; Max number of iterations in relax_shells
niter= 20
; Step size (ps^2) for minimization of flexible constraints
fcstep   = 0
; Frequency of steepest descents steps when doing CG
nstcgsteep   = 1000
nbfgscorr= 10

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f)
nstxout  = 500 
nstvout  = 500
nstfout  = 0
; Checkpointing helps you continue after crashes
nstcheckpoint= 5000
; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file
nstlog   = 500
nstenergy= 500
; Output frequency and precision for xtc file
nstxtcout= 0
xtc-precision= 1000
; This selects the subset of atoms for the xtc file. You can
; select multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written.
xtc-grps = 
; Selection of energy groups
energygrps   = MOH SOL 

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
; nblist update frequency
nstlist  = 10
; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
ns-type  = Grid
; Periodic boundary conditions: xyz (default), no (vacuum)
; or full (infinite systems only)
pbc  = xyz
; nblist cut-off
rlist= 1.5
domain-decomposition = no

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
; Method for doing electrostatics
coulombtype  = Ewald
rcoulomb-switch  = 0
rcoulomb = 1.5
; Relative dielectric constant for the medium and the reaction field
epsilon-r= 1.0  
epsilon_rf   = 1.0
; Method for doing Van der Waals
vdw-type = Cut-off
; cut-off lengths   
rvdw-switch  = 0
rvdw = 1.5
; Apply long range dispersion corrections for Energy and Pressure
DispCorr = No
; Extension of the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-off

[gmx-users] Programs to add residues

2011-06-21 Thread Zack Scholl
Hi all,

Is there a program that allows the user to add residues to the N and C
terminus, without using the electron density?  I would like to add a
short linker to my protein which doesn't exist in the electron
density.

Thanks a lot,

Sincerely,
Zack
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[gmx-users] Programs to add residues

2011-06-21 Thread Chris Neale

Try Loopy. You can get it to build termini in addition to loops.

http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/Software:Loopy

Nevertheless, I'd suggest simply omitting that part of the protein and 
capping your new terminus to remove the charge. You will have more 
difficulties converging the conformation of the unstructured terminus 
than you may expect.


CHris.

-- original message --

Hi all,

Is there a program that allows the user to add residues to the N and C
terminus, without using the electron density?  I would like to add a
short linker to my protein which doesn't exist in the electron
density.

Thanks a lot,

Sincerely,
Zack

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Re: [gmx-users] error bars g_wham

2011-06-21 Thread Jochen Hub

On 6/20/11 Jun 20,1:01 PM, Gavin Melaugh wrote:

Hi all

I have read the manual and the recent JCTC paper on g_wham, and I was
wondering how to actually get the error bars on the profile.xvg file
outputted from g_wham.

Many Thanks

Gavin

Hi Gavin,

the error bars are at the moment only in bsResult.xvg (option -bsres), 
not in profile.xvg.


Cheers,

Jochen

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[gmx-users] Autocorrelation of dipole moment

2011-06-21 Thread Chathurika Abeyrathne
Hi,

Is it possible to get negative values for normalized autocorrelation of
total dipole moment.

Thank you.


Regards,
Chathurika.
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RE: [gmx-users] xvg plotting

2011-06-21 Thread Dallas Warren
Any graphing program will do, the .xvg file is a text data file, so you can 
import it into Excel, Sigma Plot, xmgrace, gnuplot etc.

Catch ya,

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From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On 
Behalf Of Nicole Varvarigou
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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] xvg plotting

Hi,
I am a new user in gromacs and i would like to create a plot from several .xvg 
files. Can anyone guide me through the process?

Thank you in advance

N.V.
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[gmx-users] How to set proper temperature and pressure coupling parameters, especially when using solvents other than water?

2011-06-21 Thread xiaodong huang
Dear gromacs-ers

I am using stochastic dynamics integrator (integrator = sd), so most of the
time, I only need to adjust following parameters for temperature and
pressure coupling: tau_t pcoupl tau_p (ref_t is room temperature and ref_p
is 1 atm, compressibility can be taken from experimental numbers).



In the manual, a tau_t between 1 and 2ps is recommended for the sake of
simulation stability, but I see someone use a tau_t of 0.1ps with the same
integrator (integration was performed with Langevin dynamics,49 with a
reference temperature of 300 K and a weak frictional constant of 10 ps-1,)
when simulating water solvent. I also see someone use a tau_t of 0.2ps with
the same integrator (To obtain a isothermal–isobaric ensemble at 293 K, a
leap-frog stochastic dynamics integrator16 was used to integrate the
equations of motion. The inverse friction constant was set to 0.2 ps.) when
simulating some organic solvent. I check the references mentioned in these
gromacs papers so I am pretty sure they are using the same integrator. So I
am a bit confusing here, what tau_t should I use, the number between 1 and
2ps as recommended by the manual, or the numbers below 1ps, as reported in
these papers? Does this parameter depend on what solvent (water,
cyclohexane) I use? Can I just use any number between 0.1ps and 2ps and
check if my simulations look fine or there is some ‘best’ number for a
particular solvent?



When I use berendsen or Parrinello-Rahman, the same questions apply: Is
there some ‘best’ number for a particular solvent, or I can just use any
number between 0.5ps and 5ps and check if my simulations run well?



When I read papers, I find many different pressure coupling constant (tau_p)
ranging from 0.5ps to 1ps (water), 1ps to 5ps (organic solvent) with weak
coupling scheme in gromacs. I am wondering why they use bigger number for
organic solvent? If I use Parrinello-Rahman (it is said to be better than
berendsen in the manual), do I need to change tau_p, or I can just use the
same tau_p as berendsen?

Thank you so much for your kind help, any suggestions or clues are very
welcome.

Yours

xiaodong huang
Research School of Chemistry
ANU
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Re: [gmx-users] How to set proper temperature and pressure coupling parameters, especially when using solvents other than water?

2011-06-21 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



xiaodong huang wrote:

Dear gromacs-ers

I am using stochastic dynamics integrator (integrator = sd), so most of 
the time, I only need to adjust following parameters for temperature and 
pressure coupling: tau_t pcoupl tau_p (ref_t is room temperature and 
ref_p is 1 atm, compressibility can be taken from experimental numbers).


 

In the manual, a tau_t between 1 and 2ps is recommended for the sake of 
simulation stability, but I see someone use a tau_t of 0.1ps with the 
same integrator (integration was performed with Langevin dynamics,49 
with a reference temperature of 300 K and a weak frictional constant of 
10 ps-1,) when simulating water solvent. I also see someone use a tau_t 
of 0.2ps with the same integrator (To obtain a isothermal–isobaric 
ensemble at 293 K, a leap-frog stochastic dynamics integrator16 was used 
to integrate the equations of motion. The inverse friction constant was 
set to 0.2 ps.) when simulating some organic solvent. I check the 
references mentioned in these gromacs papers so I am pretty sure they 
are using the same integrator. So I am a bit confusing here, what tau_t 
should I use, the number between 1 and 2ps as recommended by the manual, 
or the numbers below 1ps, as reported in these papers? Does this 
parameter depend on what solvent (water, cyclohexane) I use? Can I just 
use any number between 0.1ps and 2ps and check if my simulations look 
fine or there is some ‘best’ number for a particular solvent?




This was discussed recently:

http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-June/061992.html

 

When I use berendsen or Parrinello-Rahman, the same questions apply: Is 
there some ‘best’ number for a particular solvent, or I can just use any 
number between 0.5ps and 5ps and check if my simulations run well?


 

When I read papers, I find many different pressure coupling constant 
(tau_p) ranging from 0.5ps to 1ps (water), 1ps to 5ps (organic solvent) 
with weak coupling scheme in gromacs. I am wondering why they use bigger 
number for organic solvent? If I use Parrinello-Rahman (it is said to be 
better than berendsen in the manual), do I need to change tau_p, or I 
can just use the same tau_p as berendsen?




Time constants are a bit empirical.  The Berendsen algorithm is more forgiving; 
it relaxes very quickly and thus low values of tau_t/tau_p are stable.  For 
methods that allow for wider oscillations (N-H for temperature, P-R for 
pressure), small tau_t/tau_p values are unstable due to the nature of these 
algorithms.  The most important information is whether or not you obtain proper 
distributions for the desired ensemble.  Any algorithm can be made to behave 
artificially rigorously or artificially relaxed.


-Justin

Thank you so much for your kind help, any suggestions or clues are very 
welcome.


Yours

xiaodong huang
Research School of Chemistry
ANU



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