Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Dear Peter, Thanks for your link and the article. I'd like to know more about your paper. You've mentioned in it that the temperature of POPC equilibrated, is 310 K. As I saw in Justin's tutorial , 323 K is proper, however it was a different system simulated and also many parameters are not the same as your system . Would you telling me about the reason of 310 K? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Peter C. Lai | University of Alabama-Birmingham Programmer/Analyst | KAUL 752A Genetics, Div. of Research | 705 South 20th Street p...@uab.edu | Birmingham AL 35294-4461 (205) 690-0808 | == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
On 6/30/12 10:33 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Dear Peter, Thanks for your link and the article. I'd like to know more about your paper. You've mentioned in it that the temperature of POPC equilibrated, is 310 K. As I saw in Justin's tutorial , 323 K is proper, however it was a I'll let Peter address the question directed to him, but I want to refute something stated here. One should not say that for membrane simulations 323 K is proper. I explain in the tutorial why this particular temperature is used in the context of DPPC only. I also provide a table of phase transition temperatures for several lipids to explain the reason why the elevated temperature was required in this case. -Justin different system simulated and also many parameters are not the same as your system . Would you telling me about the reason of 310 K? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Thanks Justin. Yes, you are right. You wrote the tutorial for DPPC and I know that. ok, I saw the temperatures upper than 271 K is proper for POPC. It's acceptable that 310 mentioned in Peter's paper is correct. But I'm wondering how they chose 310 K? In his article, he explains that their study was done in mammalian cells. Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/30/12 10:33 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Dear Peter, Thanks for your link and the article. I'd like to know more about your paper. You've mentioned in it that the temperature of POPC equilibrated, is 310 K. As I saw in Justin's tutorial , 323 K is proper, however it was a I'll let Peter address the question directed to him, but I want to refute something stated here. One should not say that for membrane simulations 323 K is proper. I explain in the tutorial why this particular temperature is used in the context of DPPC only. I also provide a table of phase transition temperatures for several lipids to explain the reason why the elevated temperature was required in this case. -Justin different system simulated and also many parameters are not the same as your system . Would you telling me about the reason of 310 K? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
On 6/30/12 11:03 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Thanks Justin. Yes, you are right. You wrote the tutorial for DPPC and I know that. ok, I saw the temperatures upper than 271 K is proper for POPC. It's acceptable that 310 mentioned in Peter's paper is correct. But I'm wondering how they chose 310 K? In his article, he explains that their study was done in mammalian cells. 310 K is physiological temperature for the human body. Peter, please correct me if this was not the intent of your study. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Yes, you are right. You wrote the tutorial for DPPC and I know that. ok, I saw the temperatures upper than 271 K is proper for POPC. It's acceptable that 310 mentioned in Peter's paper is correct. But I'm wondering how they chose 310 K? In his article, he explains that their study was done in mammalian cells. Is this the reason of this T? They mean 37 centigrades. Right? Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/30/12 10:33 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Dear Peter, Thanks for your link and the article. I'd like to know more about your paper. You've mentioned in it that the temperature of POPC equilibrated, is 310 K. As I saw in Justin's tutorial , 323 K is proper, however it was a I'll let Peter address the question directed to him, but I want to refute something stated here. One should not say that for membrane simulations 323 K is proper. I explain in the tutorial why this particular temperature is used in the context of DPPC only. I also provide a table of phase transition temperatures for several lipids to explain the reason why the elevated temperature was required in this case. -Justin different system simulated and also many parameters are not the same as your system . Would you telling me about the reason of 310 K? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
323 is proper for a higher melting point lipid like DPPC. You can easily simulate POPC at 300, and many other people have done so. In fact I received criticism from a reviewer as to why I picked an elevated temperature of 310, despite the fact that 310 is physiological temperature (to make some experimentalist reviewers happy). Some early rhodopsin runs were done at 310 and I'm pretty sure that was included as a reference in the rationale for the elevated temperature (besides the standard 310 is well above the solid phase transition temperature for POPC line). Neither the g_membed authors nor Klauda run POPC above 310K if I remember correctly. On 2012-06-30 07:33:38AM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Dear Peter, Thanks for your link and the article. I'd like to know more about your paper. You've mentioned in it that the temperature of POPC equilibrated, is 310 K. As I saw in Justin's tutorial , 323 K is proper, however it was a different system simulated and also many parameters are not the same as your system . Would you telling me about the reason of 310 K? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Dear Peter, I appreciate your explanation :) Regards, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com Cc: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid 323 is proper for a higher melting point lipid like DPPC. You can easily simulate POPC at 300, and many other people have done so. In fact I received criticism from a reviewer as to why I picked an elevated temperature of 310, despite the fact that 310 is physiological temperature (to make some experimentalist reviewers happy). Some early rhodopsin runs were done at 310 and I'm pretty sure that was included as a reference in the rationale for the elevated temperature (besides the standard 310 is well above the solid phase transition temperature for POPC line). Neither the g_membed authors nor Klauda run POPC above 310K if I remember correctly. On 2012-06-30 07:33:38AM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Dear Peter, Thanks for your link and the article. I'd like to know more about your paper. You've mentioned in it that the temperature of POPC equilibrated, is 310 K. As I saw in Justin's tutorial , 323 K is proper, however it was a different system simulated and also many parameters are not the same as your system . Would you telling me about the reason of 310 K? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Hi Shima, The lipids.rtp file in the charmm36.ff folder has many different entries for lipids. All you need to do is to run pdb2gmx with just one of your lipids of interest. This will produce a .top for this one lipid which is trivial to convert into an .itp (see Chapter 5 of the manual). Cheers Tom Peter Lai wrote: Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- Dr Thomas Piggot University of Southampton, UK. -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Dear Thomas, It's a good idea. Thanks :) Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Thomas Piggot t.pig...@soton.ac.uk To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Hi Shima, The lipids.rtp file in the charmm36.ff folder has many different entries for lipids. All you need to do is to run pdb2gmx with just one of your lipids of interest. This will produce a .top for this one lipid which is trivial to convert into an .itp (see Chapter 5 of the manual). Cheers Tom Peter Lai wrote: Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- Dr Thomas Piggot University of Southampton, UK. -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Peter C. Lai| University of Alabama-Birmingham Programmer/Analyst | KAUL 752A Genetics, Div. of Research | 705 South 20th Street p...@uab.edu| Birmingham AL 35294-4461 (205) 690-0808 | == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Dear Peter, Thanks a lot :) Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid yes http://www.frontiersin.org/Bioinformatics_and_Computational_Biology/10.3389/fgene.2012.00061/abstract The files are here: http://uab.hyperfine.info/~pcl/files/popc36/ On 2012-06-28 09:58:26PM -0700, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Peter C. Lai | University of Alabama-Birmingham Programmer/Analyst | KAUL 752A Genetics, Div. of Research | 705 South 20th Street p...@uab.edu | Birmingham AL 35294-4461 (205) 690-0808 | == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] Berger lipid
Hi all, I want to simulate a protein in POPC bilayer by CHARMM27 FF. I know phospholipids and protein are defined well in CHARMM27. Is Berger lipid required ? Thanks for your replies in advance. Sincerely, Shima -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
On 6/28/12 8:15 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Hi all, I want to simulate a protein in POPC bilayer by CHARMM27 FF. I know phospholipids and protein are defined well in CHARMM27. Is Berger lipid required ? No, these are different force fields entirely. The CHARMM36 parameter set is better for lipids than CHARMM27. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Thanks. Yes, you told me this before CHARMM36 is better than CHARMM27. But I'm afraid of using C36. Because I think it's a newer FF and and less studies have done by it. Then if I face a problem, I can't find a way through articles! Don't you think so? Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:15 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Hi all, I want to simulate a protein in POPC bilayer by CHARMM27 FF. I know phospholipids and protein are defined well in CHARMM27. Is Berger lipid required ? No, these are different force fields entirely. The CHARMM36 parameter set is better for lipids than CHARMM27. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
On 6/28/12 8:23 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Thanks. Yes, you told me this before CHARMM36 is better than CHARMM27. But I'm afraid of using C36. Because I think it's a newer FF and and less studies have done by it. Then if I face a problem, I can't find a way through articles! Don't you think so? CHARMM36 was developed by the core CHARMM developers and I have no reason to doubt it. If there was ever a group to develop good CHARMM parameters, it's them :) Simply being newer is not a reason to doubt it. Have you read the paper where the parameters were derived? The reproduction of experimental observables is quite good. Ultimately, the choice is yours, but be ready to justify that choice to a skeptical audience (reviewers). -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Yes, I have studied the article by Jeffery B. Klauda and other articles related to C36. And know where the parameters of CHARMM36 were derived. By the way, when I search the lipidbook to find the .itp file I can't find it! What about the lipid .itp ? Is it required yet? ( in your tutorial it's written lipid.itp - Berger lipid parameters ) Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:58 AM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:23 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Thanks. Yes, you told me this before CHARMM36 is better than CHARMM27. But I'm afraid of using C36. Because I think it's a newer FF and and less studies have done by it. Then if I face a problem, I can't find a way through articles! Don't you think so? CHARMM36 was developed by the core CHARMM developers and I have no reason to doubt it. If there was ever a group to develop good CHARMM parameters, it's them :) Simply being newer is not a reason to doubt it. Have you read the paper where the parameters were derived? The reproduction of experimental observables is quite good. Ultimately, the choice is yours, but be ready to justify that choice to a skeptical audience (reviewers). -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
On 6/28/12 8:43 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I have studied the article by Jeffery B. Klauda and other articles related to C36. And know where the parameters of CHARMM36 were derived. By the way, when I search the lipidbook to find the .itp file I can't find it! What about the lipid .itp ? Is it required yet? ( in your tutorial it's written lipid.itp - Berger lipid parameters ) You do not need the so-called lipid.itp as it is for a completely different force field. The Berger lipids are a united-atom parameter set derived in 1997 from a hybrid of OPLS and Gromos parameters. They are typically combined with Gromos force fields. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. Again, thanks Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:43 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I have studied the article by Jeffery B. Klauda and other articles related to C36. And know where the parameters of CHARMM36 were derived. By the way, when I search the lipidbook to find the .itp file I can't find it! What about the lipid .itp ? Is it required yet? ( in your tutorial it's written lipid.itp - Berger lipid parameters ) You do not need the so-called lipid.itp as it is for a completely different force field. The Berger lipids are a united-atom parameter set derived in 1997 from a hybrid of OPLS and Gromos parameters. They are typically combined with Gromos force fields. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] Berger lipid
I am sure that a lot of this could be avoided if the gromacs users-list search feature worked. Every search that I do returns ten to one hundred versions of each hit, making it nearly unusable. Google is ok, but it doesn't search the gromacs list nearly as well as the old specific search on the gromacs website did before the website changes. Given the current state of the list search feature, it's not really feasible to ask people to search first, unfortunately. Chris. -- original message -- Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-bounces at gromacs.org [gmx-users-bounces at gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalemkul at vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Yes, I remember now...you are right :) But I didn't know the linked you sent me, was your own output! However I wanted to know if it is necessary to produce the .itp file on my own or not. I still have this link, so will cite to you. It would be a good idea to see its package in lipidbook too. Thanks Peter Sincerely, Shima From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid
Dear Peter, Is this article is the one you talked about? Beyond Modeling: All-Atom Olfactory Receptor Model Simulations Thanks in advance Sincerely, Shima - Original Message - From: Peter Lai p...@uab.edu To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org Cc: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Berger lipid Uh didn't we go through all of this like more than a month ago? I published a paper using C36 POPC and even a linked to my popc.itp for it on this list... Of course Shima is welcome to pdb2gmx his own POPC, which I am fairly certain will result in an identical file... Lipidbook seems to only have C36 POPE. I guess maybe I will upload ours. From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 PM To: Discussion list for GROMACS users Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Berger lipid On 6/28/12 8:54 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote: Yes, I know that as studied the Kalp15 tutorial. Sorry, the last question :) : DO I need to run pdb2gmx to get the top file of POPC in CHARMM36? Is it ok? Because I see that POPC.itp is also required for simulation of protein in bilayer. You need a topology of some sort. It depends on what parameters you have on hand. If you do not have popc.itp from anywhere, then you need to generate it somehow. If it is present in the .rtp file for CHARMM36 that you have, then you can run pdb2gmx on it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Only plain text messages are allowed! * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
