Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-18 Thread Jochen Hub



rasoul nasiri wrote:

Dear All,
Hello

I understand one can adjust distance of between solvent molecules by 
genbox command and -vdwd  but I don't know, how do it between the 
solutes?


If you want to place several identical solutes with genbox -ci, then you 
could copy the file vdwradii.dat to the present directory and largely 
increase the respective vdw radii in that file (e.g. the carbon radii) 
before running genbox.


Best,

Jochen



Thanks for helping!

Rasoul



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[gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread rasoul nasiri
Dear All,
Hello

I understand one can adjust distance of between solvent molecules by genbox
command and -vdwd  but I don't know, how do it between the solutes?

Thanks for helping!

Rasoul
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Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rasoul nasiri wrote:

Dear All,
Hello

I understand one can adjust distance of between solvent molecules by 
genbox command and -vdwd  but I don't know, how do it between the solutes?




Position your solutes using editconf -center, then add solvent.

-Justin


Thanks for helping!

Rasoul



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Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread rasoul nasiri
Dear Justin,
Hello again

Thanks for the message. I want to increase the distance between solutes in
simulation box before MD simulation. How can I do it?

Rasoul

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 rasoul nasiri wrote:

 Dear All,
 Hello

 I understand one can adjust distance of between solvent molecules by
 genbox command and -vdwd  but I don't know, how do it between the solutes?


 Position your solutes using editconf -center, then add solvent.

 -Justin

  Thanks for helping!

 Rasoul


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Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rasoul nasiri wrote:

Dear Justin,
Hello again

Thanks for the message. I want to increase the distance between solutes 
in simulation box before MD simulation. How can I do it?




You can't.  If you know you need a certain distance, that should be part of your 
planning :)  I suppose you could run a pulling simulation to separate your two 
species, but that requires substantially more work (and setup considerations) 
than the two or three quick editconf commands to properly build the system.


-Justin


Rasoul

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




rasoul nasiri wrote:

Dear All,
Hello

I understand one can adjust distance of between solvent
molecules by genbox command and -vdwd  but I don't know, how do
it between the solutes?


Position your solutes using editconf -center, then add solvent.

-Justin

Thanks for helping!

Rasoul


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MILES-IGERT Trainee
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Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



rasoul nasiri wrote:

Dear Justin,
Hello again

Thanks for the message. I want to increase the distance between 
solutes in simulation box before MD simulation. How can I do it?




You can't.  If you know you need a certain distance, that should be part 
of your planning :)  I suppose you could run a pulling simulation to 
separate your two species, but that requires substantially more work 
(and setup considerations) than the two or three quick editconf commands 
to properly build the system.




Correction: you can use editconf -translate with appropriate index groups to 
separate your solutes.  This will also imply that you haven't added solvent, 
which is the same thing as positioning the two solutes appropriately in the 
first place (with editconf -center, as I posted before).


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread rasoul nasiri
Hi,
Thanks for the replies.
Since I want to increase distance among co-solvents with themselves and with
solutes, i must firstly fill the co-solvents along solutes and solvents
after that i remove solvent, finally by edittconf -translate the co-solvents
uniformally is distributed in the appropriate distances. Is it OK?

Rasoul

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



 rasoul nasiri wrote:

 Dear Justin,
 Hello again

 Thanks for the message. I want to increase the distance between solutes
 in simulation box before MD simulation. How can I do it?


 You can't.  If you know you need a certain distance, that should be part
 of your planning :)  I suppose you could run a pulling simulation to
 separate your two species, but that requires substantially more work (and
 setup considerations) than the two or three quick editconf commands to
 properly build the system.


 Correction: you can use editconf -translate with appropriate index groups
 to separate your solutes.  This will also imply that you haven't added
 solvent, which is the same thing as positioning the two solutes
 appropriately in the first place (with editconf -center, as I posted
 before).

 -Justin


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 ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
 MILES-IGERT Trainee
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Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rasoul nasiri wrote:

Hi,
Thanks for the replies.
Since I want to increase distance among co-solvents with themselves and 
with solutes, i must firstly fill the co-solvents along solutes and 
solvents after that i remove solvent, finally by edittconf -translate 
the co-solvents uniformally is distributed in the appropriate distances. 
Is it OK?


Why bother adding solvent if you're just going to remove it?  Here's what I 
would do:


1. Position solutes in the box with editconf -center
2. Add co-solvents (with a large value of -vdwd, I suppose)
3. Add solvent

I don't fully grasp why the initial position of the co-solvents matters so 
precisely; you may have a hard time satisfying all of the simultaneous distance 
requirements.  Everything is just going to diffuse around anyway during MD. 
Maybe you have some reason I'm not thinking of, but it's a potentially 
complicated problem to build.


-Justin



Rasoul

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



rasoul nasiri wrote:

Dear Justin,
Hello again

Thanks for the message. I want to increase the distance
between solutes in simulation box before MD simulation. How
can I do it?


You can't.  If you know you need a certain distance, that should
be part of your planning :)  I suppose you could run a pulling
simulation to separate your two species, but that requires
substantially more work (and setup considerations) than the two
or three quick editconf commands to properly build the system.


Correction: you can use editconf -translate with appropriate index
groups to separate your solutes.  This will also imply that you
haven't added solvent, which is the same thing as positioning the
two solutes appropriately in the first place (with editconf -center,
as I posted before).

-Justin


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Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
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Re: [gmx-users] How can I maintain a distance of at least 0.5 nm from each other of solutes

2010-04-17 Thread rasoul nasiri
Thanks for the information.
Because of haven't satisfactory model from my co-solvent and I have to add
it randomly along with the solvent by genbox -ci -nmol.

the reason of this criteria relate to crash of system
(solute+co-solvent+solvent) in the first step of simulation, because small
distance between solute and co-solvents and co-solvents with themselves
cause to rise of pressure.

Rasoul

.


On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 rasoul nasiri wrote:

 Hi,
 Thanks for the replies.
 Since I want to increase distance among co-solvents with themselves and
 with solutes, i must firstly fill the co-solvents along solutes and solvents
 after that i remove solvent, finally by edittconf -translate the co-solvents
 uniformally is distributed in the appropriate distances. Is it OK?


 Why bother adding solvent if you're just going to remove it?  Here's what I
 would do:

 1. Position solutes in the box with editconf -center
 2. Add co-solvents (with a large value of -vdwd, I suppose)
 3. Add solvent

 I don't fully grasp why the initial position of the co-solvents matters so
 precisely; you may have a hard time satisfying all of the simultaneous
 distance requirements.  Everything is just going to diffuse around anyway
 during MD. Maybe you have some reason I'm not thinking of, but it's a
 potentially complicated problem to build.

 -Justin


 Rasoul


 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



rasoul nasiri wrote:

Dear Justin,
Hello again

Thanks for the message. I want to increase the distance
between solutes in simulation box before MD simulation. How
can I do it?


You can't.  If you know you need a certain distance, that should
be part of your planning :)  I suppose you could run a pulling
simulation to separate your two species, but that requires
substantially more work (and setup considerations) than the two
or three quick editconf commands to properly build the system.


Correction: you can use editconf -translate with appropriate index
groups to separate your solutes.  This will also imply that you
haven't added solvent, which is the same thing as positioning the
two solutes appropriately in the first place (with editconf -center,
as I posted before).

-Justin


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ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu | (540) 231-9080

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