Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hi Justin,

I got same error before.



The solution is still the same.  You have listed all of your carbon atom types 
as simply "C" which corresponds to a bare carbon (carbonyl, etc) and if you 
search in ffgmxbon.itp for an angle involving three of these atoms, you won't 
find any.  Choose a suitable atom type for these atoms and look for available 
parameters in ffgmxbon.itp.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hi Justin,

I will try to be more clear. What I did, first I created a carbon 
nanotube using Tubegen carbon nanotube generator. After that I changed 
one carbon atom with another atom using text editor.

My ffgmx file is same as what http://cs86.com/CNSE/SWNT.htm has.
Next I created .top by applying ffgmx.n2t force field and .gro file 
respectively. And I used grompp to run my simulation. And What I got the 
error is:




OK, the problem is pretty straightforward now.  You have a nitrogen atom within 
a CNT, and there are no suitable angle parameters for such a system.  The atom 
type chosen is simply "N," which (from the ffgmx.atp file) corresponds to a 
peptide nitrogen in an amide, which is not what is present in your system so 
this assignment is incorrect.  Perhaps "NR6" might be more appropriate?


-Justin


creating statusfile for 8 nodes...

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.3#
checking input for internal consistency...
calling cpp...
processing topology...
Generated 1282 of the 1485 non-bonded parameter combinations
WARNING 1 [file "cnt80.top", line 11144]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 2 [file "cnt80.top", line 11144]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 3 [file "cnt80.top", line 11145]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 4 [file "cnt80.top", line 11145]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 5 [file "cnt80.top", line 11187]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 6 [file "cnt80.top", line 11187]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 7 [file "cnt80.top", line 11189]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 8 [file "cnt80.top", line 11189]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 9 [file "cnt80.top", line 11190]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 10 [file "cnt80.top", line 11190]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
Cleaning up temporary file grompp5QOA9q
---
Program grompp_mpi, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: fatal.c, line: 416




The error atom is 25th atom. and the error lines specified in topology 
file are( I underlined and made bold them):


.
[ angles ] 
;  aiajak functc0c1c2   
 c3

2 120 1
1 2 3 1
2 3 4 1
2 322 1
4 322 1
3 4 5 1
 *   3 425 1*
*5 425 1*
*   * 4 5 6 1
5 6 7 1
6 7 8 1
6 726 1
8 726 1
7 8 9 1
7 829 1
9 829 1
8 910 1
91011 1
   101112 1
   101130 1
   121130 1
   111213 1
   111233 1
   131233 1
   121314 1
   131415 1
   141516 1
   141534 1
   161534 1
   151617 1
   151637 1
   171637 1
   161718 1
   171819 1
   181920 1
   181938 1
   201938 1
12019 1
12021 1
   192021 1
   202122 1
   202140 1
   222140 1
32221 1
32223 1
   212223 1
   222324 1
   222342 1
   242342 1
  * 232425 1*
   232445 1
   *252445 1*
*42524 1*
42526 1
   242526 1
72625 1
.



I attached topology and coordinate files too.
I am sorry that I gave not enough information.

Thank you,
Kasim


 > I can't keep trying to help you if you don't provide relevant 
information. If
 > you want free help, you have to make it easy for those trying to help 
you. This
 > topology snippet is not at all what I asked to see. To be clear, 
please post

 > the following information:
 >
 > 1. The lines from the topology specified in the grompp error messages 
(the line

 > numbers are given in the error messages)
 > 2. The coordinate file entries that correspond to the atoms on those 
lines. It
 > would be helpful to see the coordinate file that works, as well as 
the one that

 > was modified that no longer works.
 >
 > Going back to your very first post, the root of the problem is that 
there are
 > not bonded parameters in the ffgmx force field to describe whatever 
changes you
 > made. Since you have yet to actually demonstrate what these changes 
were and
 > how the affected the topology, there is no better help that anyone 
can provide.

 >
 > -Justin
 >
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 >
 > Justin A. Lemkul
 > Ph.D. Candidate
 > ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
 > MILE

Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hello Justin,

I used ffgmx.n2t gromacs force field. and my topology file is:



;
;   This is your include topology file
;   Generated by x2top
;
; Include forcefield parameters
#include "ffgmx.itp"

[ moleculetype ]
; Namenrexcl
ICE 3

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass 
 typeBchargeB  massB
 1  C  1UNK  C  0  0 12.011 
 C  0  0   ; qtot 0
 2  C  1UNK  C  1  0 12.011 
 C  0  0   ; qtot 0

 3  C  1UNK  C  2
.
 24  C  1UNK  C 23  0 12.011  C 
 0  0   ; qtot 0
25  N  1UNK  N 24  014.0067 
 N  0  0   ; qtot 0
26  C  1UNK  C 25  0 12.011 
 C  0  0   ; qtot 0

..


Thank you helping me,


I can't keep trying to help you if you don't provide relevant information.  If 
you want free help, you have to make it easy for those trying to help you.  This 
topology snippet is not at all what I asked to see.  To be clear, please post 
the following information:


1. The lines from the topology specified in the grompp error messages (the line 
numbers are given in the error messages)
2. The coordinate file entries that correspond to the atoms on those lines.  It 
would be helpful to see the coordinate file that works, as well as the one that 
was modified that no longer works.


Going back to your very first post, the root of the problem is that there are 
not bonded parameters in the ffgmx force field to describe whatever changes you 
made.  Since you have yet to actually demonstrate what these changes were and 
how the affected the topology, there is no better help that anyone can provide.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hello Justin,


I looked at in my gromacs/3.3.1 and it ahs only ffgmx.n2t force field 
file. because of that, I chaged to new version gromacs.
I tried to use different force filed but new version gromacs but they 
didn't work.
I used gromacs/4.0.5 and I created .gro and by using x2top but it give 
below errors. If I use pdb2gmx, it gives me residue UNK error.
First I used "GROMOS96 53a5 force field (JCC 2004 vol 25 pag 1656)" but 
it gave me below error:



Can not find forcefield for atom C-1597 with 3 bonds
Can not find forcefield for atom C-1598 with 3 bonds
Can not find forcefield for atom C-1599 with 2 bonds
Can not find forcefield for atom C-1600 with 2 bonds

---
Program x2top_mpi, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: x2top.c, line: 207

Fatal error:
Could only find a forcefield type for 0 out of 1600 atoms
---


After that I used "OPLS-AA/L all-atom force field (2001 aminoacid 
dihedrals)" and it gave me:



Looking whether force field files exist
Opening library file /opt/apps/gromacs/4.0.5/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaa.rtp
Opening library file ffoplsaa.n2t
Opening library file ffoplsaa.n2t
There are 25 name to type translations
Generating bonds from distances...
atom 1600
Can not find forcefield for atom N-25 with 3 bonds

---
Program x2top_mpi, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: x2top.c, line: 207

Fatal error:
Could only find a forcefield type for 1599 out of 1600 atoms
---



And I tried "[DEPRECATED] Gromacs force field (see manual)" and "Encad 
all-atom force field, using scaled-down vacuum charges". they gave me 
same error at first.




The 4.0.5 version of x2top is broken unless you use the -nopbc option, which, 
for the purposes of carbon nanotubes, is useless unless you specify all the 
cross-boundary bonded terms yourself.


You had a functional topology before, why are you starting over?  You didn't 
give a very clear description of the changes you were making that were inducing 
the grompp errors, and you stand a better chance of identifying those problems 
and solving them if you provide the information I asked for last time (relevant 
topology lines and the corresponding coordinate entries).


-Justin


Thank you,
Kasim








 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:31:23 -0500
 > From: jalem...@vt.edu
 > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file
 >
 >
 >
 > ksm tprk wrote:
 > > I changed pdb file after that I generated topology file.
 > >
 >
 > It appears you are relying on grompp to figure out what parameters 
should be
 > used for these angles, and apparently, given these atom types, there 
are no
 > default values available in the force field you've chosen to use. So 
either

 > specify parameters manually or use a different force field.
 >
 > If you need further advice, it would be useful to know the force 
field you're
 > trying to use and see the problematic lines of the topology alongside 
the

 > modified coordinate file.
 >
 > -Justin
 >
 > --
 > 
 >
 > Justin A. Lemkul
 > Ph.D. Candidate
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Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

I changed pdb file after that I generated topology file.



It appears you are relying on grompp to figure out what parameters should be 
used for these angles, and apparently, given these atom types, there are no 
default values available in the force field you've chosen to use.  So either 
specify parameters manually or use a different force field.


If you need further advice, it would be useful to know the force field you're 
trying to use and see the problematic lines of the topology alongside the 
modified coordinate file.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hello,

While I am simulating my simulations, I encountered below error. 
I have pdb file which is:


HEADERPROTEIN
TITLE (5,5) Nanotube (1,1,80) replication
AUTHORTubeGen 3.3, J T Frey, University of Delaware
EXPDTATHEORETICAL MODEL
ATOM  1  C   UNK 1   3.410   0.000 -98.494  1.00  0.00
ATOM  2  C   UNK 1   3.113   1.390 -98.494  1.00  0.00
ATOM  3  C   UNK 1   2.758   2.004 -97.263  1.00  0.00
ATOM  4  C   UNK 1   1.702   2.954 -97.263  1.00  0.00
ATOM  5  C   UNK 1   1.054   3.243 -98.494  1.00  0.00
ATOM  6  C   UNK 1  -0.360   3.391 -98.494  1.00  0.00
ATOM  7  C   UNK 1  -1.054   3.243 -97.263  1.00  0.00
ATOM  8  C   UNK 1  -2.284   2.532 -97.263  1.00  0.00
ATOM  9  C   UNK 1  -2.758   2.004 -98.494  1.00  0.00
...
CONECT 1596 1595 1597
CONECT 1597 1576 1596 1598
CONECT 1598 1579 1597 1599
CONECT 1599 1598 1600
CONECT 1600 1581 1599
MASTER00000000 16000 16000
END   



But by using text editor, I change an atom with another atom.
And I created .top and .gro files respectively.
( my sample is basically similar to Christopher Stiles' 
work, http://cs86.com/CNSE/SWNT.htm)



After I run my simulation, it gives the error:



Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.1#
checking input for internal consistency...
calling cpp...
processing topology...
Generated 1282 of the 1485 non-bonded parameter combinations
WARNING 1 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72238]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 2 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72238]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 3 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72239]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 4 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72239]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 5 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72240]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 6 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72240]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 7 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72241]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 8 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72241]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 9 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72242]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 10 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72242]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
Cleaning up temporary file gromppYFxvHw
---
Program grompp_mpi, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: fatal.c, line: 416

Fatal error:
Too many warnings, grompp_mpi terminated
---


Without changing my pdb file, there was no error but after I can an atom 
with another, I got above error.
Is there anyone who had same problem before? I will really appreciate if 
you can help me. 



If you have altered the atom numbers or types without re-generating the 
topology, then the angles in the topology will no longer make sense.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-17 Thread ksm tprk

Hello,
While I am simulating my simulations, I encountered below error. I have pdb 
file which is:
HEADERPROTEINTITLE (5,5) Nanotube (1,1,80) replicationAUTHORTubeGen 
3.3, J T Frey, University of DelawareEXPDTATHEORETICAL MODELATOM  1  C  
 UNK 1   3.410   0.000 -98.494  1.00  0.00ATOM  2  C   UNK 1
   3.113   1.390 -98.494  1.00  0.00ATOM  3  C   UNK 1   2.758   
2.004 -97.263  1.00  0.00ATOM  4  C   UNK 1   1.702   2.954 -97.263 
 1.00  0.00ATOM  5  C   UNK 1   1.054   3.243 -98.494  1.00  
0.00ATOM  6  C   UNK 1  -0.360   3.391 -98.494  1.00  0.00ATOM  
7  C   UNK 1  -1.054   3.243 -97.263  1.00  0.00ATOM  8  C   UNK
 1  -2.284   2.532 -97.263  1.00  0.00ATOM  9  C   UNK 1  
-2.758   2.004 -98.494  1.00  0.00...
CONECT 1596 1595 1597CONECT 1597 1576 1596 1598CONECT 1598 1579 1597 1599CONECT 
1599 1598 1600CONECT 1600 1581 1599MASTER000000
00 16000 16000END   

But by using text editor, I change an atom with another atom.And I created .top 
and .gro files respectively.( my sample is basically similar to Christopher 
Stiles' work, http://cs86.com/CNSE/SWNT.htm)

After I run my simulation, it gives the error:


Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.1#checking input for 
internal consistency...calling cpp...processing topology...Generated 1282 of 
the 1485 non-bonded parameter combinationsWARNING 1 [file "cnt_500.top", line 
72238]:  No default Angle types, using zeroesWARNING 2 [file "cnt_500.top", 
line 72238]:  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal 
valuesWARNING 3 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72239]:  No default Angle types, 
using zeroesWARNING 4 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72239]:  No default Angle types 
for perturbed atoms, using normal valuesWARNING 5 [file "cnt_500.top", line 
72240]:  No default Angle types, using zeroesWARNING 6 [file "cnt_500.top", 
line 72240]:  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal 
valuesWARNING 7 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72241]:  No default Angle types, 
using zeroesWARNING 8 [file "cnt_500.top", line 72241]:  No default Angle types 
for perturbed atoms, using normal valuesWARNING 9 [file "cnt_500.top", line 
72242]:  No default Angle types, using zeroesWARNING 10 [file "cnt_500.top", 
line 72242]:  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal 
valuesCleaning up temporary file 
gromppYFxvHw---Program 
grompp_mpi, VERSION 3.3.1Source code file: fatal.c, line: 416
Fatal error:Too many warnings, grompp_mpi 
terminated---

Without changing my pdb file, there was no error but after I can an atom with 
another, I got above error.Is there anyone who had same problem before? I will 
really appreciate if you can help me. 
Thank you,Kasim   
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