[gmx-users] shell molecular dynamics

2011-12-29 Thread michael zhenin
Hello,

I would like to run a simulation using the shell option.

I tried to restraint solvent molecules which were found within the range
of 5-10 angstroms from the box center. I couldn't find any way to do
so. I didn't find any information about this topic anywhere else
i.e. GROMACS manual, online tutorials etc.

Can anybody help me with this problem or guide me to appropriate tutorial.

Thanks in advance.

Michael
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Re: [gmx-users] shell molecular dynamics

2011-12-29 Thread Mark Abraham

On 29/12/2011 9:43 PM, michael zhenin wrote:


Hello,
I would like to run a simulation using the shell option.
I tried to restraint solvent molecules which were found within the
range of 5-10 angstroms from the box center. I couldn't find any
way to do so. I didn't find any information about this topic
anywhere else i.e. GROMACS manual, online tutorials etc.



There are some threads in the mailing list archives. You need to make 
two different moleculetypes, one which is position restrained, and one 
that isn't. Then you need to identify the ones you want to restrain, 
e.g. with an index group made by g_select. Then you'll need to do some 
cut-and-paste to get the block of restrained solvent contiguous.


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[gmx-users] shell molecular dynamics

2009-04-13 Thread Shuangxing Dai
Hi, all,
  I am doing shell molecular dynamics and I have read the sw.itp. Now my 
question is:
1. For the shell atom, what element should be used in .pdb file, since the 
77-78th digits of pdb file is element symbol ?
2. What does the 1 in [ polarization ] part mean in sw.itp? 
3. Is it reasonable to set initial position of shell arbitrally and let energy 
minimization to find the optimum position for shell?
I also do not understand [ exclusion ] part:
; iatom excluded from interaction with i
1 2 3 4 5
2 1 3 4 5
3 1 2 4 5
4 1 2 3 5
5 1 2 3 4
For the first line, does that mean that the interaction of 2, 3, 4 and 5 with 1 
is excluded? If so, this table will exclude all the interactions. Is it right?
Thank you in advance.
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Re: [gmx-users] shell molecular dynamics

2009-04-13 Thread David van der Spoel

Shuangxing Dai wrote:

Hi, all,
  I am doing shell molecular dynamics and I have read the sw.itp. Now my 
question is:
1. For the shell atom, what element should be used in .pdb file, since 
the 77-78th digits of pdb file is element symbol ?


Anything you like. Gromacs does not use this information anyway.


2. What does the 1 in [ polarization ] part mean in sw.itp?

Function type, see manual ch. 5.

3. Is it reasonable to set initial position of shell arbitrally and let 
energy minimization to find the optimum position for shell?
At first step the shell will be put in the place of the virtual site and 
will be minimized from there.



I also do not understand [ exclusion ] part:
; iatom excluded from interaction with i
1 2 3 4 5
2 1 3 4 5
3 1 2 4 5
4 1 2 3 5
5 1 2 3 4
For the first line, does that mean that the interaction of 2, 3, 4 and 5 
with 1 is excluded? If so, this table will exclude all the interactions. 
Is it right?

Yes. You need at least two molecules to do anything useful.


Thank you in advance.
Shuangxing Dai




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Re: [gmx-users] shell molecular dynamics

2009-04-13 Thread Shuangxing Dai
Thank you for help. The harmonic potential between core and shell is 
attractive. The charges they have are opposite, this means that there will 
only be attractive force between them. My result also show that they nearly 
overlap. Is this reasonable and shell model correctly used? If not, where is 
the problem.

Shuangxing Dai
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Shuangxing Dai wrote:

Hi, all,
  I am doing shell molecular dynamics and I have read the sw.itp. Now my 
question is:
1. For the shell atom, what element should be used in .pdb file, since 
the 77-78th digits of pdb file is element symbol ?


Anything you like. Gromacs does not use this information anyway.


2. What does the 1 in [ polarization ] part mean in sw.itp?

Function type, see manual ch. 5.

3. Is it reasonable to set initial position of shell arbitrally and let 
energy minimization to find the optimum position for shell?
At first step the shell will be put in the place of the virtual site and 
will be minimized from there.



I also do not understand [ exclusion ] part:
; iatom excluded from interaction with i
1 2 3 4 5
2 1 3 4 5
3 1 2 4 5
4 1 2 3 5
5 1 2 3 4
For the first line, does that mean that the interaction of 2, 3, 4 and 5 
with 1 is excluded? If so, this table will exclude all the interactions. 
Is it right?

Yes. You need at least two molecules to do anything useful.


Thank you in advance.
Shuangxing Dai




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Re: [gmx-users] shell molecular dynamics

2009-04-13 Thread David van der Spoel

Shuangxing Dai wrote:
Thank you for help. The harmonic potential between core and shell is 
attractive. The charges they have are opposite, this means that there 
will only be attractive force between them. My result also show that 
they nearly overlap. Is this reasonable and shell model correctly used? 
If not, where is the problem.
This is fine. The shell interacts with other molecules. In the SW paper 
we have computed the distribution of dipole moments in the liquid phase, 
and the average dipole is 2.7 D, compared to 1.85 in the gas phase. 
Hence the shell particle moves sufficiently far away from the core to 
get effective polarization.



Shuangxing Dai
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] shell molecular dynamics



Shuangxing Dai wrote:

Hi, all,
  I am doing shell molecular dynamics and I have read the sw.itp. Now 
my question is:
1. For the shell atom, what element should be used in .pdb file, 
since the 77-78th digits of pdb file is element symbol ?


Anything you like. Gromacs does not use this information anyway.


2. What does the 1 in [ polarization ] part mean in sw.itp?

Function type, see manual ch. 5.

3. Is it reasonable to set initial position of shell arbitrally and 
let energy minimization to find the optimum position for shell?
At first step the shell will be put in the place of the virtual site 
and will be minimized from there.



I also do not understand [ exclusion ] part:
; iatom excluded from interaction with i
1 2 3 4 5
2 1 3 4 5
3 1 2 4 5
4 1 2 3 5
5 1 2 3 4
For the first line, does that mean that the interaction of 2, 3, 4 
and 5 with 1 is excluded? If so, this table will exclude all the 
interactions. Is it right?

Yes. You need at least two molecules to do anything useful.


Thank you in advance.
Shuangxing Dai




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