Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-19 Thread Don Leslie
Keeping power off on the cable modem fixed the problem. I had recycled 
it before but only for
a short time. When it was working /etc/resolv.conf had an entry to 
search and 3 name servers.

Don


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Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread Don Leslie
I have a Linksys WRT54GL router with the original firmware. It worked 
fine until yesterday.
When I bring up the network /etc/resolv.conf has the following:

search
nameserver 192.168.1.1

This is true for both hardwired and wireless.

If I run dhclient it acts as if everything is working but I get no 
nameservers. If I connect directly to
the external network everything works fine.

Don

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Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On 9/17/07, Don Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I bring up the network /etc/resolv.conf has the following:

 search
 nameserver 192.168.1.1

 This is true for both hardwired and wireless.

  What were you expecting instead?  Have you tried actually running a
lookup with that IP address as the nameserver?

  192.168.1.1 may actually be correct.  As I recall, the stock LinkSys
firmware runs a DNS proxy on the router.  That means machines inside
your LAN can just send their DNS queries to the router, and the router
will handle forwarding the request out to whatever the ISP nameservers
are today.

  Assuming that is *not* the situation: Have you tried rebooting the
router?  Have you tried updating to the latest firmware on the router?
 (These are standard procedures, yes, but they're standard because
they often work.  :)  )

  Assuming *that* does not fix anything: What OS/distribution/release
are you running on your DHCP client?

-- Ben
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Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread VirginSnow
 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:05:04 -1000
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 I have a Linksys WRT54GL router with the original firmware. It worked 
 fine until yesterday.
 When I bring up the network /etc/resolv.conf has the following:
 
 search
 nameserver 192.168.1.1

Is this on the router itself or a client on the LAN?
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Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread Don Leslie
Ben Scott wrote:
 On 9/17/07, Don Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 When I bring up the network /etc/resolv.conf has the following:

 search
 nameserver 192.168.1.1

 This is true for both hardwired and wireless.
 

   What were you expecting instead?  Have you tried actually running a
 lookup with that IP address as the nameserver?

   192.168.1.1 may actually be correct.  As I recall, the stock LinkSys
 firmware runs a DNS proxy on the router.  That means machines inside
 your LAN can just send their DNS queries to the router, and the router
 will handle forwarding the request out to whatever the ISP nameservers
 are today.

   Assuming that is *not* the situation: Have you tried rebooting the
 router?  Have you tried updating to the latest firmware on the router?
  (These are standard procedures, yes, but they're standard because
 they often work.  :)  )

   Assuming *that* does not fix anything: What OS/distribution/release
 are you running on your DHCP client?

 -- Ben

   
I do not remember what it looked like when things worked.

If I try to ping the Roadrunner name server I get

from 192.16.1.1 Destination Unreachable

dig fails to find a server

I am running SuSE 10.2 . I rebooted the router which made no difference. 
I could look into new firmware but it has been running fine for months.

Don

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Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On 9/17/07, Don Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I try to ping the Roadrunner name server I get

 from 192.16.1.1 Destination Unreachable

  I assume you mean 192.168.1.1 in the above (168, not 16), and that
192.168.1.1 is the IP address of your router.

  If my assumptions are correct: What your router is saying is that it
has no route to the address you were pinging.  That occurs below the
level of DNS (at the IP layer), so the DNS issue is likely more of a
symptom than a cause.

  Most likely, your router isn't getting any DHCP information from the
ISP, so it does not have an IP address on the public Internet (which
is why it has no route to the Internet).

  See if you can log-in to the web management UI on the LinkSys
router.  Typically this will mean entering http://192.168.1.1 on the
router.  The default password will be in the manual, but I think it's
either linksys, admin, or password.  The username doesn't matter
on most LinkSys models.

  Once you're in the web UI, go to the Status information screen,
and check the Internet/WAN status.

 I rebooted the router which made no difference.

  I take it you have cable Internet?  Have you tried the standard
generic cable Internet reset procedure?  That is:

1. Note the present indicator lights on the cable modem and LinkSys router.
2. Shutdown your LAN DHCP clients.
3. Unplug power from cable modem and LinkSys router.
4. Wait 15 minutes.  (Yes, that long.  Really.)
5. Plug cable modem power back in.
6. Wait for the cable modem to re-acquire service.  This will
typically be indicated by indicator lights on the modem.  See step 1.
:)
7. Plug LinkSys router power back in.
8. Wait for the LinkSys to boot.  Again, look at the lights.
9. Power one of your LAN DHCP clients back on.  See if it works.

  The above fixes a lot of problems.

 I could look into new firmware but it has been running fine for months.

  Right, but it's not running fine now.  Obviously *something* happened.  :)

  Re-flashing is the firmware equivalent to unplugging everything and
plugging it all back in again.  It sometimes fixes things, but we
never really know why.  Possible correlations include the ISP changing
something which broke your old firmware, and the existing firmware
somehow getting corrupted.

  Still, at this point, it sounds more like a provider service problem
to me.  I'd save re-flashing for later, as more of a last resort.

-- Ben
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Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread VirginSnow
 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:37:24 -0400
 From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   See if you can log-in to the web management UI on the LinkSys
 router.  Typically this will mean entering http://192.168.1.1 on the
 router.  The default password will be in the manual, but I think it's
 either linksys, admin, or password.  The username doesn't matter
 on most LinkSys models.

If the admin password is still the default admin password, it may not
be anymore.  A neighbor with a default password list could easily cause
this kind of trouble. ;)

 3. Unplug power from cable modem and LinkSys router.
 4. Wait 15 minutes.  (Yes, that long.  Really.)

I have to second step #4.  That's how long it really takes for all the
broken electrons to flow back down the wires to Comcast.

 5. Plug cable modem power back in.

  I could look into new firmware but it has been running fine for months.
 
   Right, but it's not running fine now.  Obviously *something* happened.  :)

Did you try the reset button?
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Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On 9/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 4. Wait 15 minutes.  (Yes, that long.  Really.)

 I have to second step #4.  That's how long it really takes for all the
 broken electrons to flow back down the wires to Comcast.

  For those interested in Why: What we're after here is two things:

  One is that most cable operators have their modems set to speak to
only one Ethernet (MAC) address on the customer side.  The modem
associates with the first address it sees.  Power cycling the modem
will reset this.  This one really only needs a wait for a few seconds.

  The second thing is that sometimes there is some kind of glitch
between the cable modem and the cable operator's plant (inclusive).
Dropping signal at your end for several minutes will cause the
head-end to decide you've gone away, and clear whatever state it keeps
about you.  Thus when you come back, it re-does all of the
initialization stuff.  If you come back too quickly, it might decide
you just glitched for a bit, and keep that (presumably corrupt) state
around.

-- Ben
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Re: Problem with wrt54gl router

2007-09-17 Thread John Feole
If you need to reset this router back to defaults, power it down, and 
then push in the reset button and hold for 30 seconds..

I think this can also be accomplished va the admin GUI as well

JFeole
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Ben Scott wrote:
 On 9/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 4. Wait 15 minutes.  (Yes, that long.  Really.)
   
 I have to second step #4.  That's how long it really takes for all the
 broken electrons to flow back down the wires to Comcast.
 

   For those interested in Why: What we're after here is two things:

   One is that most cable operators have their modems set to speak to
 only one Ethernet (MAC) address on the customer side.  The modem
 associates with the first address it sees.  Power cycling the modem
 will reset this.  This one really only needs a wait for a few seconds.

   The second thing is that sometimes there is some kind of glitch
 between the cable modem and the cable operator's plant (inclusive).
 Dropping signal at your end for several minutes will cause the
 head-end to decide you've gone away, and clear whatever state it keeps
 about you.  Thus when you come back, it re-does all of the
 initialization stuff.  If you come back too quickly, it might decide
 you just glitched for a bit, and keep that (presumably corrupt) state
 around.

 -- Ben
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