Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?

2010-05-14 Thread Derek Atkins
Brian br...@datasquire.net writes:

 On 05/13/2010 05:21 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote:

   There's a variant of that attack.  Sometimes the attacker changes
 the prices reported, pockets the difference, and passes along the
 rest.  There's even a special term for that kind of attack: reseller

 I've also seen this as a ploy to use an advanced fee fraud.

 Scammer: I have [stuff I want to buy from | work I need done by] you.
 Victim: OK.  I can do it.  Pay me $PRICE
 Scammer: Here is ($PRICE+$3000).  Please take what you need and wire me
 the difference.

 Victim then is expected to move quickly and wire the difference before
 the forged check has been determined to be fraudulent.

 I've seen this scam tried on me twice now.  It starts out sounding legit
 and quickly becomes obvious.  Especially if you ever get the cashier's
 check which is pretty clearly fake.

Thank you for your overpayment.  I will apply it to the next
contract/order.  Or I will return it after the work has been completed.

Why wire the results back if they didn't wire the funds in the first
place?

 Brian

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Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # CII0675)

2010-05-13 Thread Warren Luebkeman
Actually I have seen this before...They are using a legit company and posing as 
employees of the organization.  I saw one like this a while ago where they 
actually cloned a businesses website on a slightly different domain.  Clever 
clever..

Or I am missing out on a huge opportunity...


Warren Luebkeman
Partner, COO
888.357.9195
www.resara.com

- Original Message -
From: Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net
To: Warren Luebkeman war...@resara.com
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:28:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # 
CII0675)



What fun!  Let us know what you find out.  And you're apparently
not the first:

   http://radialmonster.com/blog/archives/2009/07/06/332/

???

   http://www.inside-cable.net/broadstimulusDEB1009.pdf

   http://www.inside-cable.net/index.htm
 
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Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?

2010-05-13 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Warren Luebkeman war...@resara.com writes:

 Actually I have seen this before...They are using a legit company and posing 
 as employees of the organization.  I saw one like this a while ago where they 
 actually cloned a businesses website on a slightly different domain.  Clever 
 clever..
 
 Or I am missing out on a huge opportunity...

Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the economy?

e.g.: they pose as a contractor and establish a contract with a client,
while posing as the client to establish a contract with the contractor;
the job gets done, and the money gets paid... just into the scammer's
account rather than the contractor's.

I guess you'd be seeing the `pose as the client' side of the scam, here;
someone else is presumably seeing the other side, or at least would be
if you responded affirmatively to the inquiry as a supplier.

Actually..., you know all of those `cheap printer supplies!' spams?
Maybe that's the other side of this, and you're actually seeing both
sides run in parallel on the same pool of potential victims.

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net
 To: Warren Luebkeman war...@resara.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:28:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # 
 CII0675)
 
 
 
 What fun!  Let us know what you find out.  And you're apparently
 not the first:
 
http://radialmonster.com/blog/archives/2009/07/06/332/
 
 ???
 
http://www.inside-cable.net/broadstimulusDEB1009.pdf
 
http://www.inside-cable.net/index.htm
  
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Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?

2010-05-13 Thread Michael ODonnell


 Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the economy?

Hello,

Kindest warm greetings and felicitations; you have not
previously been knowing me but I was the personal assistant
of Ben Bernanke and I need your help in extracting a large sum
of money from the Broadband Stimulus Fund, an undertaking for
which you will be generously remunerated
 
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Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?

2010-05-13 Thread Brian


On 05/13/2010 05:21 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote:

   There's a variant of that attack.  Sometimes the attacker changes
 the prices reported, pockets the difference, and passes along the
 rest.  There's even a special term for that kind of attack: reseller

I've also seen this as a ploy to use an advanced fee fraud.

Scammer: I have [stuff I want to buy from | work I need done by] you.
Victim: OK.  I can do it.  Pay me $PRICE
Scammer: Here is ($PRICE+$3000).  Please take what you need and wire me
the difference.

Victim then is expected to move quickly and wire the difference before
the forged check has been determined to be fraudulent.

I've seen this scam tried on me twice now.  It starts out sounding legit
and quickly becomes obvious.  Especially if you ever get the cashier's
check which is pretty clearly fake.

Brian
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