Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-29 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:
> All I want is attribution, so if any of you want the rest of the slides,
> just send me an email.

  If you want a place to post them for others, feel free email them to
me, and I can hang them off the GNHLUG website.

-- Ben
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Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-29 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>Thank you. This will be very helpful for me when I need to do a 
>presentation later this year.

Those sides were very "chopped down" from a much larger set that I would
be happy to send people on OO format.  Some of the slides are
"personal" (e.g. I know every one of the people on the "Future" slide)
but most of the others are more generic.

All I want is attribution, so if any of you want the rest of the slides,
just send me an email.

md


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Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-29 Thread Dan Jenkins
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
> Here are the slides I used that day.  I am sending them to the list in
> case anyone else would like to see them.  If not, "d" is an appropriate
> action.
>   
Thank you. This will be very helpful for me when I need to do a 
presentation later this year.

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Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-28 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Jim (et. al.),

>It took a long time on my 56K (33K in bad weather) modem.

Sorry Jim,

md

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Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-28 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Sunday 28 March 2010 15:44, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
> Joshua,
>
> >This may be a stupid question, but... is there some sort of summary
> >available for your presentation? I don't want to ask you to
> >spend time transcribing it or anything like that, but if you have
> >slides or something...? I always find openings particularly
> > interesting for study
>
> Here are the slides I used that day.  I am sending them to the list
> in case anyone else would like to see them.  If not, "d" is an
> appropriate action.

It took a long time on my 56K (33K in bad weather) modem.  Could you 
have linked them?

Jim Kuzdrall
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RE: Souhegan High School

2010-03-25 Thread Ken Campbell
I installed two linux thin client labs at two elementary schools in the
Conval School District (Peterborough) last academic year, 2008-09. The labs
were successful (including testing (with audio) for academic progress
(NWEA)). 
The rub came this past fall when curriculum selectors at the SAU chose
Pearson Envision, a web based instruction that utilized SHOCKWAVE!!
As Linux does not natively support shockwave (I know about wine...too much
overhead) and the tens of thousands of signatures petitioning for shockwave
in the linux environment notwithstanding, I had to convert the thin client
lab to windose to accommodate the web based instruction.
I do utilize linux in the district, hosting Moodle servers and running linux
web and mail servers along with file servers (samba). Inroads in education
are at times slow and difficult. 
Ken

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Sent: 2010-03-24 22:40
To: Joshua Judson Rosen
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Subject: Re: Souhegan High School

Ironically (or coincidentally?), this very day we made an offer on a house
in Amherst for the very reason on the subject line of this e-mail.  While
US News & World Report rates Souhegan as second in the state for (public)
high schools, behind Hollis, we found that the general atmosphere and
direction of Souhegan was something we enjoyed and admired.

I'm somewhat disappointed to hear that they're a Windows-mostly shop, but
that does seem to be par for the course these days.  Maybe with some
grass-roots student brainwash^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H introductions, Linux can
make inroads -- in much the same way that it did into corporate environs a
decade ago.

As for skipping college... well, it's an option, but there are many areas
in which I regret not having been more fully-educated.  Additionally, if
you get your foot in the door, there's nowhere you can't work if you're
persistent and reasonably smart -- but it can take an awful lot longer to
get said foot in said door without a degree.  (For me, it was five
years... and I consider myself lucky.)

Anyway, enough late-night (as opposed to early-morning) blatherings; but
I'll be very interested to see how high schools -- especially Souhegan --
come to embrace (or not) FOSS.

-Ken

On Wed, March 24, 2010 11:15 pm, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> "Jon 'maddog' Hall"  writes:
>
>>
>> Two weeks ago I went to Souhegan High School in Amherst to vote, and
>> while there I looked up their computer technical person (they are mostly
>>  a windows shop, but also have MACs) and offered to do a presentation
>> to the students and faculty on FOSS and free culture.
>
> Awesome!
>
>
>> I was warned that these were "high school students" and it was "hard to
>>  keep their attention".
>
> Hilarious :)
>
>
>> I started with a slide that showed five people that did amazing
>> things with FOSS before they were 22 (one as young as 11), most of whom
>> are now very successful and one of whom was a former student at
>> Souhegan.
>>
>
> There are, I think, quite a few of us--SHS students who became
> wildly successful at young ages due largely to our involvement with FOSS.
> Several of us even got to skip college, going straight
> from SHS to success--though I don't know how kosher it would be to bring
> *that* up inside a high school... :)
>
>
> Some of these cases can, additionally, be traced more-or-less
> directly back to some contribution that you made--thank you (immensely)
for
> your continued work on this.
>
> This is immensely valuable--to the kids, to the adults that they
> become, to *their* eventual children, and to the industry (and world) that
> they go on to inhabit and create.
>
>> They have a nice lab filled with relatively new machines.  I pointed
>> out that with the correct software we could teach either high
>> performance computing or "cloud" computing.
>
> ... or virtually anything else :)
>
>
>> For others on this list that might want to participate, these are paid
>> teaching courses, and while the pay is probably not gigantic, you may
>> find that courses you have already put together are easily
>> repackaged...and courses that you give may lead to other business.  In
>> any case, these courses would be for next fall, so you have time to
>> think about it.
>>
>> As the students get more involved, I think we may have some "new blood"
>>  coming into the group.  I found them very intelligent, very polite and
>>  very thoughtful.
>>
>> Friday I am going to visit Milford High school and offer the same talk.
>>
>>
>> 

Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-24 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Ironically (or coincidentally?), this very day we made an offer on a house
in Amherst for the very reason on the subject line of this e-mail.  While
US News & World Report rates Souhegan as second in the state for (public)
high schools, behind Hollis, we found that the general atmosphere and
direction of Souhegan was something we enjoyed and admired.

I'm somewhat disappointed to hear that they're a Windows-mostly shop, but
that does seem to be par for the course these days.  Maybe with some
grass-roots student brainwash^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H introductions, Linux can
make inroads -- in much the same way that it did into corporate environs a
decade ago.

As for skipping college... well, it's an option, but there are many areas
in which I regret not having been more fully-educated.  Additionally, if
you get your foot in the door, there's nowhere you can't work if you're
persistent and reasonably smart -- but it can take an awful lot longer to
get said foot in said door without a degree.  (For me, it was five
years... and I consider myself lucky.)

Anyway, enough late-night (as opposed to early-morning) blatherings; but
I'll be very interested to see how high schools -- especially Souhegan --
come to embrace (or not) FOSS.

-Ken

On Wed, March 24, 2010 11:15 pm, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> "Jon 'maddog' Hall"  writes:
>
>>
>> Two weeks ago I went to Souhegan High School in Amherst to vote, and
>> while there I looked up their computer technical person (they are mostly
>>  a windows shop, but also have MACs) and offered to do a presentation
>> to the students and faculty on FOSS and free culture.
>
> Awesome!
>
>
>> I was warned that these were "high school students" and it was "hard to
>>  keep their attention".
>
> Hilarious :)
>
>
>> I started with a slide that showed five people that did amazing
>> things with FOSS before they were 22 (one as young as 11), most of whom
>> are now very successful and one of whom was a former student at
>> Souhegan.
>>
>
> There are, I think, quite a few of us--SHS students who became
> wildly successful at young ages due largely to our involvement with FOSS.
> Several of us even got to skip college, going straight
> from SHS to success--though I don't know how kosher it would be to bring
> *that* up inside a high school... :)
>
>
> Some of these cases can, additionally, be traced more-or-less
> directly back to some contribution that you made--thank you (immensely) for
> your continued work on this.
>
> This is immensely valuable--to the kids, to the adults that they
> become, to *their* eventual children, and to the industry (and world) that
> they go on to inhabit and create.
>
>> They have a nice lab filled with relatively new machines.  I pointed
>> out that with the correct software we could teach either high
>> performance computing or "cloud" computing.
>
> ... or virtually anything else :)
>
>
>> For others on this list that might want to participate, these are paid
>> teaching courses, and while the pay is probably not gigantic, you may
>> find that courses you have already put together are easily
>> repackaged...and courses that you give may lead to other business.  In
>> any case, these courses would be for next fall, so you have time to
>> think about it.
>>
>> As the students get more involved, I think we may have some "new blood"
>>  coming into the group.  I found them very intelligent, very polite and
>>  very thoughtful.
>>
>> Friday I am going to visit Milford High school and offer the same talk.
>>
>>
>> Next week I will hit the Community College on Amherst St. in Nashua.
>>
>
> This may be a stupid question, but... is there some sort of summary
> available for your presentation? I don't want to ask you to spend time
> transcribing it or anything like that, but if you have slides or
> something...? I always find openings particularly interesting for
> study
>
> --
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Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-24 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
"Jon 'maddog' Hall"  writes:
>
> Two weeks ago I went to Souhegan High School in Amherst to vote, and
> while there I looked up their computer technical person (they are mostly
> a windows shop, but also have MACs) and offered to do a presentation to
> the students and faculty on FOSS and free culture.

Awesome!

> I was warned that these were "high school students" and it was "hard to
> keep their attention".

Hilarious :)

> I started with a slide that showed five people that did amazing
> things with FOSS before they were 22 (one as young as 11), most of
> whom are now very successful and one of whom was a former student at
> Souhegan.

There are, I think, quite a few of us--SHS students who became
wildly successful at young ages due largely to our involvement
with FOSS. Several of us even got to skip college, going straight
from SHS to success--though I don't know how kosher it would be
to bring *that* up inside a high school... :)

Some of these cases can, additionally, be traced more-or-less
directly back to some contribution that you made--thank you
(immensely) for your continued work on this.

This is immensely valuable--to the kids, to the adults that they
become, to *their* eventual children, and to the industry (and world)
that they go on to inhabit and create.

> They have a nice lab filled with relatively new machines.  I pointed out
> that with the correct software we could teach either high performance
> computing or "cloud" computing.

... or virtually anything else :)

> For others on this list that might want to participate, these are paid
> teaching courses, and while the pay is probably not gigantic, you may
> find that courses you have already put together are easily
> repackaged...and courses that you give may lead to other business.  In
> any case, these courses would be for next fall, so you have time to
> think about it.
> 
> As the students get more involved, I think we may have some "new blood"
> coming into the group.  I found them very intelligent, very polite and
> very thoughtful.
> 
> Friday I am going to visit Milford High school and offer the same talk.
> 
> Next week I will hit the Community College on Amherst St. in Nashua.

This may be a stupid question, but... is there some sort of summary
available for your presentation? I don't want to ask you to
spend time transcribing it or anything like that, but if you have
slides or something...? I always find openings particularly interesting
for study

-- 
"Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr."

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