Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-17 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 15, 2008, at 22:34, Dan Miller wrote:

 I've heard many rumors that Fairpoint is rolling out their own TV. For
 some reason that do what verizon is doing with TV, but they are  
 looking
 into TV over IP.

Yeah, that's their primary revenue model, IPTV over DSL, which is why  
their DSL extension plans for rural areas are believable.  They have  
it deployed in their other geographic regions.  This is a year and a  
half old, but the best I know to date:

   http://blog.bfccomputing.com/articles/2007/02/21/fairpoint-and- 
gcedc-at-uvcia-2006-02-21


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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-16 Thread Frank DiPrete


Bruce Labitt wrote:
 Just got a Fairpoint flyer for fiber.  (Nice alliteration.)  Anyone got 
 an idea on how much this actually costs?  All they give you is a phone 
 number to call.  Likewise on their website. 
 
 Does the rate vary by location?  Why won't they post it?  The 'evil' 
 Comcast posts theirs.
 
 My DSL is a bit slow for my taste nowadays.  I'd call, but I'm wary of 
 being talked into something I really would like but shouldn't buy 
 because of the monthly rate.  So does anyone happen to know, and would 
 you share the rates?
 
 I would hope there are only 4 rates (5/2, 15/2, 15/15, and 30/15). 
 If it matters, I live in Nashua.
 
 Thanks
 
 -Bruce

Hello Bruce

I just went down this path less than a month ago.

Verizon sold it's business in NH ME VT to Fairpoint.
Everything but cell phones.
The deal was finalized recently.

Fairpoint does not offer FIOS as part of it's product offerings at all 
as of 3 weeks ago. The existing Verizon FIOS customers still have it, 
but no new customers and no new fiber is being installed at this time.
Fairpoint is spending some big bucks - as per the buy out agreement 
contract with the NHPUC in which they have to spend 50M - but so far it 
is to update and fix old rusting and abandoned Versizon stuff.

There is no information or eta as to if/when fios will be available 
again through Fairpoint. You can check again by calling them. The sales 
rep I spoke to was not pushy.

What Fairpoint has is a bundled service is phone over copper, DSL, and 
Direct TV. The package is cheaper than Comcast by a fairly significant 
margin depending n the hardware you get for TV. In my case $40+ per 
month. The package pricing, ie getting all 3 from one provider, is the 
only way it makes financial sense because if you split the services you 
lose the discount on both sides.

Fairpoint's database shows my home as 0 miles from the CO. There is a 
fiber terminal a block away. I could get 3M DSL. They can tell you this 
with a phone call. Without the fiber terminal, my DSL speed would suck 
wet bounty paper towels.

Here's where it gets bad.

I ordered the bundle and found out the hard way that I cannot get a line 
of site to the satellites (plural) for Direct TV so Comcast still has me 
by the gonads.

Fairpoint rolled the truck to cut my phone over to them before rolling 
the Direct TV truck and left me with a big problem. I had to cut my 
phone back to Comcast before being eligible for their bundle again.

Comcast sent me to Fairpoint to start the work order process and 
Fairpoint sent me to Comcast to do the same. Eventually a Fairpoint rep 
started a con call with Comcast to get them to put in the work order.

This took a day of my time to get straightened out and 2 weeks for 
Comcast to get going again - They dropped the ball repeatedly. (and sent 
out a contractor that installed the wrong DVR and had to come back again)

Comcast also refused to waive the phone installation fee to cut the 
phone back even though I had been a Comcast customer for 8 years and was 
ordering a package to the tune of $2,000+ per year. It took hours of my 
time to get the fee waived by someone with half a brain. A rare find at 
Comcast.

Short story - Fairpoint will not roll a truck to check your line of 
sight without an order. Fairpoint will not roll the Direct TV truck to 
check line of sight with an order until your phone is on Verizon copper.
This is part of their contract with Direct TV.

The catch-22 is very very bad.
Proceed cautiously ;)

Signed,
-Not drinking the Comcast kool-aid.

PS
If Fairpoint starts offering FIOS again I'd go for it in a second and 
let Comcast fudge their todlywankers,








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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Labitt
Frank DiPrete wrote:


 PS
 If Fairpoint starts offering FIOS again I'd go for it in a second and 
 let Comcast fudge their todlywankers,


The offer for fiber came in the form of a mass mailing direct from 
Fairpoint.  They have set up a website www.fairpointfast.com for it.  I 
guess I'll call and find out the deal for it.


I just hope to avoid the nightmare stuff...

-Bruce
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RE: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Pelletier
I would simply LOVE to have the pain of paying $45 a month for internet
service - currently my only option is Comcast, and they charge $61.80.

-Michael Pelletier. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Labitt

If the rate above is still valid then the rate per month is (9/12)*44.95 =
$33.71, which isn't too bad.  Just at the threshold of pain...  
Actually when I first signed up for DSL it was for $35/month so it really
isn't too bad.

I wonder why they don't publish their rates?  Are they playing cat  mouse
with their competition? 
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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-16 Thread Frank DiPrete


Michael Pelletier wrote:
 I would simply LOVE to have the pain of paying $45 a month for internet
 service - currently my only option is Comcast, and they charge $61.80.
 
   -Michael Pelletier. 
 

amen brother.

Add hd tv over fiber and unlimited phone to a package price at a savings 
of $540 per year over comcast to the mix and you're really talking.

.. I wonder of fairpoint support knows how to spell tcp/ip



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 If the rate above is still valid then the rate per month is (9/12)*44.95 =
 $33.71, which isn't too bad.  Just at the threshold of pain...  
 Actually when I first signed up for DSL it was for $35/month so it really
 isn't too bad.
 
 I wonder why they don't publish their rates?  Are they playing cat  mouse
 with their competition? 
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fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-15 Thread Bruce Labitt
Just got a Fairpoint flyer for fiber.  (Nice alliteration.)  Anyone got 
an idea on how much this actually costs?  All they give you is a phone 
number to call.  Likewise on their website. 

Does the rate vary by location?  Why won't they post it?  The 'evil' 
Comcast posts theirs.

My DSL is a bit slow for my taste nowadays.  I'd call, but I'm wary of 
being talked into something I really would like but shouldn't buy 
because of the monthly rate.  So does anyone happen to know, and would 
you share the rates?

I would hope there are only 4 rates (5/2, 15/2, 15/15, and 30/15). 
If it matters, I live in Nashua.

Thanks

-Bruce
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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-15 Thread Dan Miller
The rates are what you stated (or pretty close to that). The only price
I know is 15/2 which I will be getting this weekend. Its around $55 or
so. I will let you know after this weekend.

Dan
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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-15 Thread Bruce Labitt
Tom Engle wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Bruce Labitt 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just got a Fairpoint flyer for fiber.  (Nice alliteration.)
  Anyone got
 an idea on how much this actually costs?  All they give you is a phone
 number to call.  Likewise on their website.

 Does the rate vary by location?  Why won't they post it?  The 'evil'
 Comcast posts theirs.

 My DSL is a bit slow for my taste nowadays.  I'd call, but I'm wary of
 being talked into something I really would like but shouldn't buy
 because of the monthly rate.  So does anyone happen to know, and would
 you share the rates?

 I would hope there are only 4 rates (5/2, 15/2, 15/15, and 30/15).
 If it matters, I live in Nashua.


 I have 15/2 fiber in Nashua for exactly $44.95 per month.  I signed up 
 back when it was still Verizon, so I can't say whether Fairpoint is 
 still offering it to new users at that price, but they haven't upped 
 the price on me yet.

 Tom
Thanks Tom.  Right now, they are offering 3 months free (sure - it isn't 
really free, it is just a discount) if I sign up for a year.  I just 
didn't know what the rate actually was.

Does Fairpoint force you into some combo with phone service?  Right now 
I only have local service enabled so we have a landline for DSL and 
around town service.  Long distance is on our cell phones since it is 
cheaper.

Have you had many interruptions on fiber? 

If the rate above is still valid then the rate per month is (9/12)*44.95 
= $33.71, which isn't too bad.  Just at the threshold of pain...  
Actually when I first signed up for DSL it was for $35/month so it 
really isn't too bad.

I wonder why they don't publish their rates?  Are they playing cat  
mouse with their competition? 
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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Bruce Labitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wonder why they don't publish their rates?

  Back when ATT was the one and only phone company, It was standard
practice to treat everything as if it was more secret than nuclear
launch codes.  Remember, they owned the phones; we just rented them.
Most modern baby and big bells inherited that mindset, and many of
them haven't gotten over that habit.  The same with the telephone
equipment manufactures that spun off the Bell System (Avaya, Nortel,
etc.).

  There may be other reasons that help them keep the habit, but
inertia alone would suffice.

-- Ben
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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 15, 2008, at 22:09, Ben Scott wrote:

   There may be other reasons that help them keep the habit, but
 inertia alone would suffice.

It's possible that since Fairpoint is currently leasing Verizon  
support systems, such as the website, they're doing as little as  
possible while they build their own.  That was supposed to be done  
this month, IIRC, but slipped.

-Bill

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Re: fairpoint fiber rates?

2008-09-15 Thread Dan Miller

 It's possible that since Fairpoint is currently leasing Verizon  
 support systems, such as the website, they're doing as little as  
 possible while they build their own.  That was supposed to be done  
 this month, IIRC, but slipped.


I've heard many rumors that Fairpoint is rolling out their own TV. For
some reason that do what verizon is doing with TV, but they are looking
into TV over IP.

I've heard that this is supposed to be out in about 5 months or so.

Dan
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