Questions about gnome-mag + orca

2008-03-27 Thread Aurelian Radu
Hello list,

Firstly, I'd like to thank the developers of gnome-mag and orca for the
significant improvements in the area of magnification. The great orca
developers listened to my suggestion and created the option to have the
cursor centered while editing and navigating. Kudoz !

Now I have a few questions:
My desktop has an AMD Athlon64 single-core (1.8 GHz) and the CPU soars to
100% when I move the mouse. Is this a bug or a limitation? I'm planning on
buying a notebook with a Core 2 Duo (T7250 or better) Would this more
powerful CPU still soar to 100%? Will it affect heat and battery life?

I now have an NVIDIA GF 6600 GT. Would gnome-mag run smoothly on Intel GMA
X3100 or NVIDIA 8400 GS?

Thanks for taking the tine to read this,

Aurelian
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Re: Questions about gnome-mag + orca

2008-03-27 Thread Aurelian Radu
Thank you, Carlos. I am replying to your email using compiz-fusion (the CPU
usage barely reaches 3-4%. It would be great if gnome-mag were as easy on
the CPU.

When you say that the algorithm can be calculated in the GPU, you mean there
is a setting I can change to do that, or is this a feature that needs to be
implemented?

Thank you,

Aurelian

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Carlos Diógenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi Aurelian,

 Probably in a Core 2 Duo you will have 50% of CPU usage (100% of one
 core). This is not a bug, this is due the fact that the magnification
 algorithm is CPU intensive. This can be solved using the video card
 processor, that is by far fastest for this type of operation.

 If you pan a lot this will probably heat and battery life.

 I'm not developing gnome-mag anymore, but probably the GNOME Outreach
 Accessibility Program will adress these issues, but I think that this
 will take a while, one or two GNOME releases.

 Best regards,
 Carlos.

 2008/3/27, Aurelian Radu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hello list,
 
  Firstly, I'd like to thank the developers of gnome-mag and orca for the
  significant improvements in the area of magnification. The great orca
  developers listened to my suggestion and created the option to have the
  cursor centered while editing and navigating. Kudoz !
 
  Now I have a few questions:
  My desktop has an AMD Athlon64 single-core (1.8 GHz) and the CPU soars
 to
  100% when I move the mouse. Is this a bug or a limitation? I'm planning
 on
  buying a notebook with a Core 2 Duo (T7250 or better) Would this more
  powerful CPU still soar to 100%? Will it affect heat and battery life?
 
  I now have an NVIDIA GF 6600 GT. Would gnome-mag run smoothly on Intel
 GMA
  X3100 or NVIDIA 8400 GS?
 
  Thanks for taking the tine to read this,
 
  Aurelian
 
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Re: Questions about gnome-mag + orca

2008-03-27 Thread Carlos Diógenes
2008/3/27, Aurelian Radu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thank you, Carlos. I am replying to your email using compiz-fusion (the CPU
 usage barely reaches 3-4%. It would be great if gnome-mag were as easy on
 the CPU.

This is due the fact that compiz uses OpenGL to do it's rendering and
it's code is also better to interact with the Xserver.


 When you say that the algorithm can be calculated in the GPU, you mean there
 is a setting I can change to do that, or is this a feature that needs to be
 implemented?

The feature must be implemented in gnome-mag. This is not so
difficult, since there are lots of good code that do this, these just
have to be merged inside gnome-mag. Making this will improve the
Xrender performance (the actual implementation) and will also give 3D
acceleration support.


 Thank you,

 Aurelian


 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Carlos Diógenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi Aurelian,
 
  Probably in a Core 2 Duo you will have 50% of CPU usage (100% of one
  core). This is not a bug, this is due the fact that the magnification
  algorithm is CPU intensive. This can be solved using the video card
  processor, that is by far fastest for this type of operation.
 
  If you pan a lot this will probably heat and battery life.
 
  I'm not developing gnome-mag anymore, but probably the GNOME Outreach
  Accessibility Program will adress these issues, but I think that this
  will take a while, one or two GNOME releases.
 
  Best regards,
  Carlos.
 
  2008/3/27, Aurelian Radu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
 
   Hello list,
  
   Firstly, I'd like to thank the developers of gnome-mag and orca for the
   significant improvements in the area of magnification. The great orca
   developers listened to my suggestion and created the option to have the
   cursor centered while editing and navigating. Kudoz !
  
   Now I have a few questions:
   My desktop has an AMD Athlon64 single-core (1.8 GHz) and the CPU soars
 to
   100% when I move the mouse. Is this a bug or a limitation? I'm planning
 on
   buying a notebook with a Core 2 Duo (T7250 or better) Would this more
   powerful CPU still soar to 100%? Will it affect heat and battery life?
  
   I now have an NVIDIA GF 6600 GT. Would gnome-mag run smoothly on Intel
 GMA
   X3100 or NVIDIA 8400 GS?
  
   Thanks for taking the tine to read this,
  
   Aurelian
  
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Re: Questions about gnome-mag + orca

2008-03-27 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Aurelian:

There may be a number of things going on there.  To get things working 
as good as possible with gnome-mag, I think you currently need to have 
the following (Carlos will correct me if I'm wrong, I hope!):

1) COMPOSITE enabled in the X server.  Since it seems as though you 
might be using Compiz with the eZoom plugin, I'm guessing this is the case.

2) gnome-mag needs to become the COMPOSITE manager.  If you are using 
Compiz, then gnome-mag may not be able to do so.  If this is the case, 
you should try using metacity.

3) Orca should be using gnome-mag in full screen mode.  This can be done 
in the Magnification tab of the Orca preferences GUI.

Having said all that, we have a task for GNOME Outreach Program: 
Accessibility for someone to get paid to help take the magnification 
solution beyond where we are now.  If someone is interested in this, 
please let us know!

Will

Aurelian Radu wrote:
 Thank you, Carlos. I am replying to your email using compiz-fusion (the 
 CPU usage barely reaches 3-4%. It would be great if gnome-mag were as 
 easy on the CPU.
 
 When you say that the algorithm can be calculated in the GPU, you mean 
 there is a setting I can change to do that, or is this a feature that 
 needs to be implemented?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Aurelian
 
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Carlos Diógenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Aurelian,
 
 Probably in a Core 2 Duo you will have 50% of CPU usage (100% of one
 core). This is not a bug, this is due the fact that the magnification
 algorithm is CPU intensive. This can be solved using the video card
 processor, that is by far fastest for this type of operation.
 
 If you pan a lot this will probably heat and battery life.
 
 I'm not developing gnome-mag anymore, but probably the GNOME Outreach
 Accessibility Program will adress these issues, but I think that this
 will take a while, one or two GNOME releases.
 
 Best regards,
 Carlos.
 
 2008/3/27, Aurelian Radu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Hello list,
  
   Firstly, I'd like to thank the developers of gnome-mag and orca
 for the
   significant improvements in the area of magnification. The great orca
   developers listened to my suggestion and created the option to
 have the
   cursor centered while editing and navigating. Kudoz !
  
   Now I have a few questions:
   My desktop has an AMD Athlon64 single-core (1.8 GHz) and the CPU
 soars to
   100% when I move the mouse. Is this a bug or a limitation? I'm
 planning on
   buying a notebook with a Core 2 Duo (T7250 or better) Would this more
   powerful CPU still soar to 100%? Will it affect heat and battery
 life?
  
   I now have an NVIDIA GF 6600 GT. Would gnome-mag run smoothly on
 Intel GMA
   X3100 or NVIDIA 8400 GS?
  
   Thanks for taking the tine to read this,
  
   Aurelian
  
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