Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
This request has 2/2 from release-team, and it's just one string (with one word). I agree with Alexandre, but having RT approval there is no need to stop this from i18n, so 1/2. Regards El mié., 4 sept. 2019 a las 7:28, Alexandre Franke () escribió: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Arnaud Bonatti > wrote: > > They cannot, there is no way to do that. Well, in fact, they can set > > all the things manually if they know dconf-editor as I know it, as its > > maintainer and main developer; but the *creation* of a folder would > > look impossible to most users, due to the way the settings are done > > (only command line allows that, more easily with `dconf` than with > > `gsettings`; or Software, until now at least); and there is nothing > > that will help them to do a *renaming*, in any way. > > Ok. I took Georges' indication as “it can be done with gsettings” > anyway, so that doesn’t change my approval and conditions. > > -- > Alexandre Franke > GNOME Hacker > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Arnaud Bonatti wrote: > They cannot, there is no way to do that. Well, in fact, they can set > all the things manually if they know dconf-editor as I know it, as its > maintainer and main developer; but the *creation* of a folder would > look impossible to most users, due to the way the settings are done > (only command line allows that, more easily with `dconf` than with > `gsettings`; or Software, until now at least); and there is nothing > that will help them to do a *renaming*, in any way. Ok. I took Georges' indication as “it can be done with gsettings” anyway, so that doesn’t change my approval and conditions. -- Alexandre Franke GNOME Hacker ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
Hey, a “small detail”: 2019-09-03 22:44 UTC+02:00, Georges Basile Stavracas Neto via gnome-i18n : > Users can use dconf-editor to rename folders, but that would make for > a terrible user experience. They cannot, there is no way to do that. Well, in fact, they can set all the things manually if they know dconf-editor as I know it, as its maintainer and main developer; but the *creation* of a folder would look impossible to most users, due to the way the settings are done (only command line allows that, more easily with `dconf` than with `gsettings`; or Software, until now at least); and there is nothing that will help them to do a *renaming*, in any way. Regards, Arnaud -- Arnaud Bonatti courriel : arnaud.bona...@gmail.com ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
1/2 for a merge right **after** 3.34 for a 3.34.1 inclusion. -- Alexandre Franke GNOME Hacker ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
Users can use dconf-editor to rename folders, but that would make for a terrible user experience. Renaming folders is critical to managing app folders from GNOME Shell. Em ter, 3 de set de 2019 às 17:41, Alexandre Franke escreveu: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:28 PM Georges Basile Stavracas Neto > wrote: > > You should read it again, then. > > I really shouldn’t. That is my point actually. A freeze request should > clearly explain from the start what the benefits and risks are, so > that we coordinators can make a well-informed decision. The easier you > make it for us, the more likely we are to give you a quick approval. > > > The rename popover, that is introduced by > > that merge request, will not be introduced if the merge request isn't > merged. > > Without the rename folder popover, users won't be able to rename folders > > from GNOME Shell. > > Thank you, that is important information. Would the user have a > fallback mechanism to do it in that case? As it is, the risk of not > merging it doesn’t seem that high to me and we are getting late so I’m > leaning towards not granting you the exception for 3.34, but approving > for a merge right after 3.34 is out so we have time to translate it > for 3.34.1. > > -- > Alexandre Franke > GNOME Hacker > ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:28 PM Georges Basile Stavracas Neto wrote: > You should read it again, then. I really shouldn’t. That is my point actually. A freeze request should clearly explain from the start what the benefits and risks are, so that we coordinators can make a well-informed decision. The easier you make it for us, the more likely we are to give you a quick approval. > The rename popover, that is introduced by > that merge request, will not be introduced if the merge request isn't merged. > Without the rename folder popover, users won't be able to rename folders > from GNOME Shell. Thank you, that is important information. Would the user have a fallback mechanism to do it in that case? As it is, the risk of not merging it doesn’t seem that high to me and we are getting late so I’m leaning towards not granting you the exception for 3.34, but approving for a merge right after 3.34 is out so we have time to translate it for 3.34.1. -- Alexandre Franke GNOME Hacker ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
You should read it again, then. The rename popover, that is introduced by that merge request, will not be introduced if the merge request isn't merged. Without the rename folder popover, users won't be able to rename folders from GNOME Shell. Em ter, 3 de set de 2019 às 17:22, Alexandre Franke escreveu: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:16 PM Georges Basile Stavracas Neto > wrote: > > not approving this break would prevent that merge request from being > merged. > > Right. That’s not a very useful answer though. My question was what > the current behaviour is, i.e what will the user see if this doesn’t > get merged. > > -- > Alexandre Franke > GNOME Hacker > ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:16 PM Georges Basile Stavracas Neto wrote: > not approving this break would prevent that merge request from being merged. Right. That’s not a very useful answer though. My question was what the current behaviour is, i.e what will the user see if this doesn’t get merged. -- Alexandre Franke GNOME Hacker ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
The new string is a verb, "Rename". It is displayed at the rename folder popover, introduced by that merge request. Since it's a critical part of the merge request, not approving this break would prevent that merge request from being merged. Em ter, 3 de set de 2019 às 16:54, Alexandre Franke escreveu: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:08 PM Georges Basile Stavracas Neto via > gnome-i18n wrote: > > I hereby ask for String and UI freeze break exceptions for landing GNOME > Shell's > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/675. This > merge > > request is an important last step for feature-completeness of the > ability to create > > and delete folders within GNOME Shell. > > What’s the new string? I had a quick look at the MR and couldn’t find > it. When/how is it displayed? What is the current behaviour (i.e. what > happens if we don’t approve the freeze break)? > > -- > Alexandre Franke > GNOME Hacker > ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:08 PM Georges Basile Stavracas Neto via gnome-i18n wrote: > I hereby ask for String and UI freeze break exceptions for landing GNOME > Shell's > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/675. This merge > request is an important last step for feature-completeness of the ability to > create > and delete folders within GNOME Shell. What’s the new string? I had a quick look at the MR and couldn’t find it. When/how is it displayed? What is the current behaviour (i.e. what happens if we don’t approve the freeze break)? -- Alexandre Franke GNOME Hacker ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Fwd: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell
CCing the i18n team. -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: Georges Basile Stavracas Neto Assunto: String & UI Freeze break request for GNOME Shell Data: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 15:05:44 -0300 Para: release-t...@gnome.org To the Release Team, I hereby ask for String and UI freeze break exceptions for landing GNOME Shell's <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/675>. This merge request is an important last step for feature-completeness of the ability to create and delete folders within GNOME Shell. With respect, Georges ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
