[LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
due to her if it turns out Terekhov is behind attacks on the GPL paranoia. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 12:07 PM EDT Terekhov will not be happy about this article. Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 01:14 PM EDT Nothing to see here. Move along... - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 01:18 PM EDT Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger - Authored by: AMackenzie on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 02:09 PM EDT Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger - Authored by: Wol on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 04:30 PM EDT Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger - Authored by: PJ on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 05:44 PM EDT Terekhov-Versa-Bosch-Humax-Western Digital-Samsung connection - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:46 AM EDT Terekhov-Versa-Bosch-Humax-Western Digital-Westinghouse-Samsung connection - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:55 AM EDT Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 12:07 PM EDT Terekhov will not be happy about this article. Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger Authored by: AMackenzie on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 02:09 PM EDT No doubt about that. But why is this of any importance? What does it matter what a software engineer from Baden Württemberg thinks about GPL enforcement? Do you know something about him that I don't? Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger Authored by: Wol on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 04:30 PM EDT Do we know anything that you don't? Just that he is one of the most prolific (and successful) people at enforcing the GPL in court. Probably even more so than the FSF. (Note that the FSF prefer to settle out of court. I think Harald does too, but living in Germany he's much more trigger-happy about getting injunctions, as he has to be because of the peculiarities of German law.) Cheers, Wol Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger Authored by: PJ on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 05:44 PM EDT I think you are not understanding each other. I think he meant Terekhov. He is only significant if it turns out he's behind things like Psystar and Dan Wallace's equally failed attack on the GPL. Terekhov-Versa-Bosch-Humax-Western Digital-Samsung connection Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:46 AM EDT I think he meant Terekhov. He is only significant if it turns out he's behind things like Psystar and Dan Wallace's equally failed attack on the GPL. PJ, don't you think that Terekhov is behind Versa-Bosch-Humax-Western Digital-Samsung attack on the GPL as well? See 1:09-cv-10155-SAS Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. v. Best Buy Co., Inc. et al. Versa: On information and belief, Defendant alleges that Plaintiffs claims are barred, limited and/or excluded on the grounds that the alleged license at issue in this case and/or certain provisions contained therein are illegal, unconscionable and barred by public policy as well as by statutory and case law. Bosch: The GNU General Public License, Version 2, as alleged by Plaintiffs, is not enforcable. Humax: Plaintiffs are not entitled to the relief sought because their actions constitute a misuse of the copyright. Western Digital: Plaintiffs claims are barred by the first sale doctrine. Plaintiffs claims for relief are barred by the First Sale doctrine. Samsung: As a further, separate and distinct Ninth Affirmative Defense to the Complaint and each claim for relief alleged therein, Defendant alleges that Plaintiffs claims are barred by the doctrine of copyright misuse. Defendants are informed and believe, and on that basis allege, that Plaintiffs claims are barred because Plaintiffs have used the alleged copyrights at issue in this case to engage in anticompetitive behavior under United States law. As a separate and distinct Twelfth Affirmative Defense and each claim for relief alleged therein, Defendant alleges that Plaintiffs claim for copyright infringement is barred under at least the provisions of 17 U.S.C. § 109(a), as Defendant was licensed and any copies alleged to be infringing were, therefore, lawfully made. Terekhov-Versa-Bosch-Humax-Western Digital-Westinghouse-Samsung connection Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:55 AM EDT Westinghouse: Plaintiffs claims for relief are barred by the First Sale doctrine. regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
On 4/8/2010 12:01 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: due to her if it turns out Terekhov is behind attacks on the GPL paranoia. I know that creating single-spaced incomprehensible screeds is the hallmark of every good crank, and I know that properly formatting errors doesn't make them any less wrong, but really, if you're trying to make some point through your quotes, you should try to format your messages so that readers don't give up in incomprehension. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
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Hyman Rosen wrote: [...] should try to format your messages so that readers don't give up in incomprehension. Try http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.misc.discuss/tree/browse_frm/thread/a5c349a25ca65991/214ecbb400cbe67a?hl=enrnum=1_done=%2Fgroup%2Fgnu.misc.discuss%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fa5c349a25ca65991%3Fhl%3Den%26#doc_214ecbb400cbe67a you idiot Hyman. regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
On 4/8/2010 12:33 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Try http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.misc.discuss/tree/browse_frm/thread/a5c349a25ca65991/214ecbb400cbe67a?hl=enrnum=1_done=%2Fgroup%2Fgnu.misc.discuss%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fa5c349a25ca65991%3Fhl%3Den%26#doc_214ecbb400cbe67a Huh? That's exactly the same newsgroup message, looked up in Google Groups. The message contains what seem to be a variety of quotes from various sources and also (I think) comments by you, without any indentation to show which parts are responses to which other parts. I suppose it's your choice as to whether you want your posts to be incomprehensible instead of just wrong, but I wrote just in case you prefer the latter and were producing the former accidentally. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com writes: On 4/8/2010 12:01 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: due to her if it turns out Terekhov is behind attacks on the GPL paranoia. I know that creating single-spaced incomprehensible screeds is the hallmark of every good crank, and I know that properly formatting errors doesn't make them any less wrong, but really, if you're trying to make some point through your quotes, you should try to format your messages so that readers don't give up in incomprehension. I don't have the impression that comprehensibility would actually benefit his goals. Whether he realizes that is a different question. -- David Kastrup ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
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Hyman Rosen wrote: [... indentation ...] Uh idiot Hyman... For indentation, go to http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments and search for Terekhov, silly Hyman. regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
David Kastrup wrote: Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com writes: On 4/8/2010 12:01 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: due to her if it turns out Terekhov is behind attacks on the GPL paranoia. I know that creating single-spaced incomprehensible screeds is the hallmark of every good crank, and I know that properly formatting errors doesn't make them any less wrong, but really, if you're trying to make some point through your quotes, you should try to format your messages so that readers don't give up in incomprehension. I don't have the impression that comprehensibility would actually benefit his goals. Whether he realizes that is a different question. Said MORON dak who wrote in 2004: http://forum.golem.de/read.php?44,216061,page=1 Man kann niemanden wegen Verstoßes gegen die GPL verklagen, da die GPL kein Vertrag und kein Gesetz ist. MORON dak in 2010: http://www.jbb.de/fileadmin/download/judgment_dc_frankfurt_gpl.pdf The GPL grants anyone who enters into such contract with the licensor the right to copy, ... Germany might call things different ... Uh clown dak, LMAO! regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
On 4/8/2010 12:53 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Uh idiot Hyman... For indentation, go to http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments and search for Terekhov, silly Hyman. The point of communication is to communicate. If you choose not to expend effort on making your Usenet posts understandable (correct would be asking too much), why would you expect that readers would expend effort to understand them? Why would you pour a mess of text into a Usenet post if you believe the better way to read it is on a website? Don't you think you would be better off being neatly wrong instead of sloppily wrong? ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Hyman Rosen wrote: On 4/8/2010 12:53 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Uh idiot Hyman... For indentation, go to http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments and search for Terekhov, silly Hyman. The point of communication is to communicate. Here's the communication: STOP BEING UTTER IDIOT HYMAN! regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: On 4/8/2010 12:53 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Uh idiot Hyman... For indentation, go to http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments and search for Terekhov, silly Hyman. The point of communication is to communicate. Here's the communication: STOP BEING UTTER IDIOT HYMAN! I don't see him attempting to compete with you in that area. -- David Kastrup ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: On 4/8/2010 12:53 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Uh idiot Hyman... For indentation, go to http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments and search for Terekhov, silly Hyman. The point of communication is to communicate. Here's the communication: STOP BEING UTTER IDIOT HYMAN! I don't see him attempting to compete with you in that area. Said IDIOT dak who wrote in 2004: http://forum.golem.de/read.php?44,216061,page=1 Man kann niemanden wegen Verstoßes gegen die GPL verklagen, da die GPL kein Vertrag und kein Gesetz ist. UTTER IDIOT dak in 2010: http://www.jbb.de/fileadmin/download/judgment_dc_frankfurt_gpl.pdf The GPL grants anyone who enters into such contract with the licensor the right to copy, ... Germany might call things different ... regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: On 4/8/2010 12:53 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Uh idiot Hyman... For indentation, go to http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments and search for Terekhov, silly Hyman. The point of communication is to communicate. Here's the communication: STOP BEING UTTER IDIOT HYMAN! I don't see him attempting to compete with you in that area. Said IDIOT dak who wrote in 2004: http://forum.golem.de/read.php?44,216061,page=1 Man kann niemanden wegen Verstoßes gegen die GPL verklagen, da die GPL kein Vertrag und kein Gesetz ist. UTTER IDIOT dak in 2010: http://www.jbb.de/fileadmin/download/judgment_dc_frankfurt_gpl.pdf The GPL grants anyone who enters into such contract with the licensor the right to copy, ... Germany might call things different ... And actually, Germany _does_ call things different. The original text is: Diese drei Softwareprogramme werden ausschließlich unter der GNU General Public License (GPL) lizensiert. Die GPL gestattet jedermann, der einen solchen Vertrag als Lizenznehmer schließen will, die Vervielfältigung, Verbreitung und Veränderung der Software, wenn die Weitergabe ebenfalls wieder unter den Bedingungen dieser Lizenz erfolgt, insbesondere auf die GPL hingewiesen, der Lizenztext der GPL beigefügt, der Quellcode zugänglich gemacht und auf einen Gewährleistungsausschluss hingewiesen wird. Translated properly: The GPL permits anyone who desires to enter into such a contract as a licensee, the reproduction [...] as long as the redistribution happens under the very same conditions of this license [...]. So the wording of the verdict makes clear that the GPL is the _permission_ to enter into a contractual relation, but not a contract in itself. Seems like the translation you cite does not fully reflect the original wording. When you have time for it, you may want to wipe the foam off your mouth. -- David Kastrup ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
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David Kastrup wrote: [...] So the wording of the verdict makes clear that the GPL is the _permission_ to enter into a contractual relation, but not a contract in Hey dak, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drogenbesitz Hth. regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Alexander Terekhov wrote: due to her if it turns out Terekhov is behind attacks on the GPL paranoia. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185#comments Enforcement of the GNU GPL in Germany and Europe, by Till Jaeger Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 12:07 PM EDT Terekhov will not be happy about this article. Pee Jay is the software world's embodiment of the current paranoid Birther movement which claims President Obama is not a U.S. citizen. Despite the fact that the Supreme Court held in 1927 that an intellectual property license is a contract, Pee Jay continues to claim that a license is not a contract to be interpreted under state common law: The GPL is a License, Not a Contract, Which is Why the Sky Isn't Falling http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031214210634851 Despite the fact that no U.S. federal court in the past 83 years has held a copyright license to be anything other than a contract, Pee Jay will remains in her cocoon of denial. Just as the Birthers claim that the President's Hawaiian birth certificate is fake, her Groksters will refuse to accept any court decisions of record. Pee Jay has made voluminous citations to U.S. court decisions when she has felt the need to support a legal claim. (She's a paralegal) So... how many court decisions has she quoted to support her facetious claim that a license is not a contract? Zero -- she can't because she is a paranoid whack job. Arguing with Pee Jay is like talking to a wall. She makes SCO's scoundrel, Darl McBride, seem almost honest in contrast. Sincerely, RJack :) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: [ snip ] If there was any meaning, any point made in the snipped material, it totally escapes me. Any chance you might like to restate your point in a concise and clear paragraph? I'm assuming that you had some point to make. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: [ snip ] If there was any meaning, any point made in the snipped material, it totally escapes me. Any chance you might like to restate your point in a concise and clear paragraph? I'm assuming that you had some point to make. The point is the following, Alan. OK, this is better than your opening post, but still not very good. You haven't written a concise clear paragraph explaining what you're trying to say. However, . PJ wrote on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 05:44 PM EDT: - I think you are not understanding each other. I think he [AMackenzie] meant Terekhov. Yes, I did mean you. He [Terekhov] is only significant if it turns out he's [Terekhov is] behind things like Psystar and Dan Wallace's equally failed attack on the GPL. - I didn't write that. I think PJ did. Have you had any part in Psystar's activities or Dan Wallace's? Anonymous replied on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:46 AM EDT: Was that anonymous you, by any chance? - PJ, don't you think that Terekhov is behind Versa-Bosch-Humax- Western Digital-Samsung attack on the GPL as well? Have you had anything to do with these matters? See 1:09-cv-10155-SAS Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. v. Best Buy Co., Inc. et al. Versa: On information and belief, Defendant alleges that Plaintiffs? claims are barred, limited and/or excluded on the grounds that the alleged license at issue in this case and/or certain provisions contained therein are illegal, unconscionable and barred by public policy as well as by statutory and case law. Bosch: [ ] Anonymous added on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:55 AM EDT: - Westinghouse: Plaintiffs? claims for relief are barred by the First Sale doctrine. - Got it now, Alan? No. You've dumped a load of material from Groklaw onto gnu.misc.discuss, and by doing so you're presumingly making some point. What point, exactly, escapes me. Perhaps you would be kind enough to state clearly and explicitly what your point is. regards, alexander. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
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David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: Seriosly, as for Dan Wallace, I've told him I suggest you file a request for hearing en banc. If the price for doing it is a restraint, please let me know. He replied: This appellate level ruling completely peels The United States Department of Justice's Antitrust Division off Microsoft's back. Microsoft is is now FREE, FREE, FREE to leverage its' software patents against open source software. This ruling signed a death warrant for free software. So why intercede? There are a lot of death warrants being signed for free software, not least of all in this group. http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2010/mar10/03-03IODataPR.mspx (I-O Data Signs Linux Software Patent Agreement With Microsoft) ... the company has entered into more than 600 agreements and continues to develop programs that make it possible for customers, partners and competitors to access its IP portfolio. The program was developed to open access to Microsofts significant research and development investments and its growing, broad patent and IP portfolio. In recent years, Microsoft has entered into patent agreements with other leading companies that use Linux for their embedded devices, including Brother International Corp., Fuji Xerox Co. Ltd., Kyocera Mita Corp., LG Electronics, Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. and TomTom International BV. regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
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Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: Seriosly, as for Dan Wallace, I've told him I suggest you file a request for hearing en banc. If the price for doing it is a restraint, please let me know. He replied: This appellate level ruling completely peels The United States Department of Justice's Antitrust Division off Microsoft's back. Microsoft is is now FREE, FREE, FREE to leverage its' software patents against open source software. This ruling signed a death warrant for free software. So why intercede? There are a lot of death warrants being signed for free software, not least of all in this group. -- David Kastrup ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [LOL] Hey Alan, Pee Jay's mind is going to explode soon
Alan Mackenzie wrote: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: [ snip ] If there was any meaning, any point made in the snipped material, it totally escapes me. Any chance you might like to restate your point in a concise and clear paragraph? I'm assuming that you had some point to make. The point is the following, silly Alan. PJ wrote on Saturday, April 03 2010 @ 05:44 PM EDT: - I think you are not understanding each other. I think he meant Terekhov. He [Terekhov] is only significant if it turns out he's [Terekhov is] behind things like Psystar and Dan Wallace's equally failed attack on the GPL. - Anonymous replied on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:46 AM EDT: - PJ, don't you think that Terekhov is behind Versa-Bosch-Humax- Western Digital-Samsung attack on the GPL as well? See 1:09-cv-10155-SAS Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. v. Best Buy Co., Inc. et al. Versa: On information and belief, Defendant alleges that Plaintiffs claims are barred, limited and/or excluded on the grounds that the alleged license at issue in this case and/or certain provisions contained therein are illegal, unconscionable and barred by public policy as well as by statutory and case law. Bosch: The GNU General Public License, Version 2, as alleged by Plaintiffs, is not enforcable. Humax: Plaintiffs are not entitled to the relief sought because their actions constitute a misuse of the copyright. Western Digital: Plaintiffs claims are barred by the first sale doctrine. Plaintiffs claims for relief are barred by the First Sale doctrine. Samsung: As a further, separate and distinct Ninth Affirmative Defense to the Complaint and each claim for relief alleged therein, Defendant alleges that Plaintiffs claims are barred by the doctrine of copyright misuse. Defendants are informed and believe, and on that basis allege, that Plaintiffs claims are barred because Plaintiffs have used the alleged copyrights at issue in this case to engage in anticompetitive behavior under United States law. As a separate and distinct Twelfth Affirmative Defense and each claim for relief alleged therein, Defendant alleges that Plaintiffs claim for copyright infringement is barred under at least the provisions of 17 U.S.C. § 109(a), as Defendant was licensed and any copies alleged to be infringing were, therefore, lawfully made. - Anonymous added on Thursday, April 08 2010 @ 07:55 AM EDT: - Westinghouse: Plaintiffs claims for relief are barred by the First Sale doctrine. - Got it now, silly Alan? regards, alexander. P.S. Every computer program in the world, BusyBox included, exceeds the originality standards required by copyright law. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' P.P.S. Of course correlation implies causation! Without this fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress. Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com The Silliest GPL 'Advocate' -- http://gng.z505.com/index.htm (GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards too, whereas GNU cannot.) ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
