Re: [GNC] Change text color

[GT-I9070 H]

Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 23:22, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> I added two sections to the Gtk3 wiki page:
>

This is also important:

#account_tree:selected

regards
GTI
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Re: [GNC] Imbalance bug in credit note generation?

[Amish]

On Tuesday 31 July 2018 08:34 PM, Geert Janssens wrote:

Op dinsdag 31 juli 2018 08:56:15 CEST schreef Amish:

Can someone using Gnucash for Business account please check credit note
creation?

I am wondering how come noone came across this bug. It is a serious bug
unless I am doing something wrong.

This bug is now affecting maintaining business account for me.

Without "correctly assigned / balanced" credit notes all figures come
out wrong.

Bug report:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796766

I am wondering if developers know this or not. As it has not been
assigned to anyone or acknowledged.

The impatience... ;)

Thank you for your reply. But I did wait about 2 weeks after bug report.

It's holiday season so expect replies to have a longer delay. I have only
returned from vacation today and have a huge backlog to process.

I have seen your bug report but haven't had time to verify. As this is my area
I will do so soon and if I can reproduce I will for sure put it on my priority
list for 3,3.


Mailing list was reasonably active so I was just wondering and also 
worried about my issue.


My business depends on Gnucash credit notes working properly so you can 
understand that for me it would become a priority.


Ofcourse I completely understand that its an open source software by 
volunteers around the world.


I tried my best to report the bug in best possible way.

Do let me know if you need more information.


Regards,

Geert

Thanks and regards,

Amish

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Re: [GNC] Change text color

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Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 23:22, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> I added two sections to the Gtk3 wiki page:
>

You forgot to add the selector:

notebook tab label

This is much desired because it is difficult to read.

Regards
GTI
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

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I saw, good job!

I thought it would be necessary to split by OS.

Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 23:22, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> I added two sections to the Gtk3 wiki page:
>
> CSS Properties
> CSS Selectors (nodes)
>
> Properties is not definitive. It includes a ‘my-best-guess’ list of what
> most people will want to style. The remaining unlisted properties are
> primarily for UI elements in how they function, not basics like text,
> padding, color, etc. (specifically, transition and animation properties -
> if you’re interested, fire up the Inspector)
>
> The Selectors section is a work in progress. I think this should be kept
> simple and clear. If two rules are possible, only the most specific one to
> the task should be given. (don’t rely on the cascade which may not work,
> thus, this is more like ’Style Sheets’ rather than ‘Cascading Style
> Sheets’) Feel free to add what you want if you have Wiki access, but keep
> in mind, those rules might get edited. It might also be safer to state
> which Gtk version that rule is confirmed with (and on what OS even). We may
> find (some so far) that different versions of Gtk respond differently to
> the same rules.
>
> I plan to add screen snippets later pointing out the exact elements the
> selectors apply to.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Adrien Monteleone]

Might be an issue with the chosen font. They worked for Helvetica and Helvetica 
Neue. I’ll test with Arial later to see if it’s an OS issue.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:11 PM, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
> 
> Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 21:58, Adrien Monteleone 
>  escreveu:
> Did you try those declarations on ‘#account_tree header label’ instead?
> 
> That is, keep the font/text declarations to the ‘label’ class and keep the 
> color, padding, margin, and outline declarations to the ‘button’ class. (need 
> to experiment and tweak some of these, they might work better on label)
> 
> Now yes,
> 
> #account_tree label {
>   font-weight: 900;
> } 
> 
> and
> 
> #account_tree header label {
>   font-weight: 900;
> }
> 
> also do not work.
> 
> Regards
> GTI


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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Adrien Monteleone]

I added two sections to the Gtk3 wiki page:

CSS Properties
CSS Selectors (nodes)

Properties is not definitive. It includes a ‘my-best-guess’ list of what most 
people will want to style. The remaining unlisted properties are primarily for 
UI elements in how they function, not basics like text, padding, color, etc. 
(specifically, transition and animation properties - if you’re interested, fire 
up the Inspector)

The Selectors section is a work in progress. I think this should be kept simple 
and clear. If two rules are possible, only the most specific one to the task 
should be given. (don’t rely on the cascade which may not work, thus, this is 
more like ’Style Sheets’ rather than ‘Cascading Style Sheets’) Feel free to add 
what you want if you have Wiki access, but keep in mind, those rules might get 
edited. It might also be safer to state which Gtk version that rule is 
confirmed with (and on what OS even). We may find (some so far) that different 
versions of Gtk respond differently to the same rules.

I plan to add screen snippets later pointing out the exact elements the 
selectors apply to.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 11:22 AM, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
> 
> Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 11:39, Fross, Michael 
> escreveu:
> 
>> I've been following this thread but have no yet had a chance to implement
>> the color customization.  I hope all of this great stuff gets into the
>> Wiki.  It would be also really interesting to have a master CSS file that
>> has all of the known options in it so that folks can just download that and
>> tweak it (hopefully with verbose comments.)
>> 
>> Thank you for all of the work and experimentation on this thread!
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Words like yours are gratifying and stimulating!
> 
> There is already a sample css file on the Wiki or somewhere, it needs to be
> updated.
> Adrien said that he intends to put this information in the Wiki, but in a
> community of shared efforts any of US can do it, do not waste time to do it!
> 
> Since when I met GnuCash I did not like its interface, the old themes
> improved a bit but the old GTK had a prehistoric appearance.
> Now with GTK+ 3, we have had a significant visual improvement and now with
> some customizations, GnuCash looks beautiful, it is more beautiful than
> ever!
> Now I'm satisfied when I open and see GnuCash!
> 
> I think this will bring a lot of new members to our community, you know how
> it is: Appearances is everything!
> 
> 
> Regards
> GTI
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

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Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 23:11, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> The inspector lets you do this with an option switch, but I don’t think
> the CSS file has control over this.
>
> My understanding is the theme is specified in a settings.ini file. The
> wiki should have the proper location for it, I don’t recall off hand.
>

Someone here in the list defined the dark theme on your Mac with the css
file, but it did not work in the Window.


Regards
GTI
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[GT-I9070 H]

Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 21:58, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> Did you try those declarations on ‘#account_tree header label’ instead?
>
> That is, keep the font/text declarations to the ‘label’ class and keep the
> color, padding, margin, and outline declarations to the ‘button’ class.
> (need to experiment and tweak some of these, they might work better on
> label)
>

Now yes,

#account_tree label {
  font-weight: 900;
}

and

#account_tree header label {
  font-weight: 900;
}

also do not work.

Regards
GTI
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

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> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:53 PM, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
> 
> Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 09:18, Adrien Monteleone 
>  escreveu:
> I’ll fire up the inspector later this evening and report back what I find.
> 
> When you dig into gtkInspector try to find the selectors for focus and 
> unfocused tabs and for the bottom summary bar.

I didn’t notice a distinction (yet), but my guess is ‘:hover’ ‘:focus’ or 
':selected' will get you somewhere. The main selector is as reported by you 
previously to be ’notebook tab’ and then ’notebook tab label’.


> 
> It would also be interesting if we could select the internal "dark theme 
> Adwaita" from the css file. Do you know how?
> 

The inspector lets you do this with an option switch, but I don’t think the CSS 
file has control over this.

My understanding is the theme is specified in a settings.ini file. The wiki 
should have the proper location for it, I don’t recall off hand.

Regards,
Adrien
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[GT-I9070 H]

Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 09:18, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> I’ll fire up the inspector later this evening and report back what I find.
>

When you dig into gtkInspector try to find the selectors for focus and
unfocused tabs and for the bottom summary bar.

It would also be interesting if we could select the internal "dark theme
Adwaita" from the css file. Do you know how?


Regards
GTI
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Re: [GNC] survey: unifying the appearance in different options dialogs

[Adrien Monteleone]

After reading John Ralls’ reply on the wizards (example 4) I agree with him, 
the sidebar list needs to go. Adding numbered steps would help, but the better 
option is to not even list the steps, just walk the user through the steps with 
next <> back buttons. I think this would also adhere better to the Gnome HIG 
concerning removing confusing information presented to the user. The user 
cannot click a later tab and jump there, so don’t present them as tabs at all, 
use a different presentation and guide the user through the options in the 
order you need to guide them.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Di Mang  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-08-01 13:58 GMT+02:00 Adrien Monteleone :
> 
> 
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Geert Janssens  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Op dinsdag 31 juli 2018 00:51:54 CEST schreef Di Mang:
> >> Hello Geert and Adrien,
> >> 
> >> I agree it is a good idea to revise the report options and possibly
> >> summarize to reduce the number of tabs.
> >> There are currently
> >> some reports that have tabs with only a few settings.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> But in my opinion it would not be a good solution to move away completely
> >> from tabs for *all* option dialogs.
> >> For option dialogs with only a few reports it will take up too much space
> >> on the window.
> > 
> > This doesn't make sense to me. If we move to "tabs" on the left for at 
> > least 
> > one option window, we need to dimension the window anyway that it will fit 
> > on 
> > the smallest screen we wish to support. How would this minimal dimension be 
> > affected by the number of "tabs" in that area ? (I'm quoting "tabs" because 
> > it's not the exact term for the exact widget I had in mind, more on that 
> > below).
> > 
> > Having a consistent way to represent options throughout the application is 
> > more important to me.
> 
> I agree. Options shouldn’t switch to one or the other based on their 
> quantity. All of these dialogs should be consistent. And if it can work 
> once...
> 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I think we
> >> have to
> >> distinguish between different
> >> option
> >> dialogs / windows:
> >> 
> >> * main window: an exception, because of dynamic tabs (with a scroll bar if
> >> necessary)
> > 
> > Indeed, although a scroll bar for tabs is a bit awkward.
> > 
> >> 
> >> *
> >> windows with main preferences: currently with tabs on the left side (like
> >> in Geany)
> > 
> > I suppose you mean “many" preferences.
> > 
> 
> Perhaps the ‘main’ app preferences, which does use the sidebar list. The 
> Gnome desktop does the same.
> 
> 
> Yes, I meant here the "main" app preferences: like "Edit" > "Preferences" in 
> GnuCash.
> For more clarity find examples of different dialogs in the appendix. 
> 
> >> 
> >> An alternative solution may be
> >> the Side Bar List instead of Tabs on the left side (like in LibreOffice,
> >> Gimp, Firefox)
> > 
> > I surely agree a Side Bar List is better and that (or something similar) is 
> > what I had in mind. In fact I thought that's what you meant as well as the 
> > option dialogs for several reports were showing a list of groups instead as 
> > a 
> >> list of tabs on my system already before your change.
> >
> > Yes Side Bar List is the proper widget from what I can glean from the Gnome 
> > HIG.
> > I thought that was what Di Mang was referring to as well.
>  
> Yes, I think the Side Bar List is a good solution for a list of many 
> different settings.
> 
> > 
> >> * option dialogs with only few tabs: tabs at the top position (like in
> >> Geany, Gedit, Gimp, LibreOffice)
> > 
> > As said that would then break consistency again. Wasn't that your initial 
> > argument (which I like) ?
> > 
> > My ideal solution would be a dynamic side bar list. That is if there's 
> > enough 
> > horizontal screen space (and the dialog is wide enough) show the list 
> > permanently. If the dialog gets narrowed (either due to user action or due 
> > to 
> > limited screen space), make the list hidden by default (with a button to 
> > show 
> > it) and when that button is clicked make it hover the actual content.
> > 
> > Here's a video of another application implementing this behavior (though 
> > from 
> > the KDE world):
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H24jdjE5Q6E
> > 
> > Clearly this is for gnucash 4.x at best...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> 
> Interesting. I don’t suppose Gtk+4 has this in the works?
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks Tommy,

The build of 3.2 for 16.04 was simple enough a couple of days ago. (partly 
because I’d built before on that vm so most everything was already there 
dependency-wise) The updated instructions certainly are helpful, but I did have 
to read and re-read them several times as the wording in some places was a 
little odd or not particularly in a “Step 1,2,3” fashion. (not always easy when 
building because of the myriad of variances on individual systems and of 
course, builder preferences)

Perhaps maybe a “here’s how to build yourself if you’ve never held a hammer” 
and then a “if you’re an old hat, here’s the particulars you can get your own 
mileage out of” sort of approach will help more less seasoned users obtain a 
more recent version with the least amount of effort. The current instructions 
are a VAST improvement, but they still try to be all things to all compiling 
users in one go, but we truly have vastly different skills levels and thus 
audiences for this material.

So, on backporting, I just successfully built. I can recreate my command 
sequence from my bash history. I suppose there is an official *buntu 
link/process to request and demonstrate a successful backport. I’ll add it to 
one of my burners along with possibly a build script for the newbies unless 
someone wants to take that. As I was building, my thought was that this could 
easily be scripted to prompt for preferences and check and install needed 
dependencies and shouldn’t be that difficult. I’ve never written an install 
script like this and always did things the hard way, but if anyone else reading 
has done this before, please look over the Ubuntu building pages and see if 
something is possible here.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Tommy Trussell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:45 PM Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> Thanks for the run-down.
> 
> So simply a case of Universe not pulling an update from Sid yet then? (or 
> will that never happen and each release’s Universe is always tied to Testing? 
> and then Stable, etc.) I know there is a separate backports repository as 
> well. Perhaps that’s a better solution?
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> 
> Ubuntu works on the premise that you have well defined releases every six 
> months, with processes for updating individual packages in special cases. The 
> vast majority of packages get copied from Debian at a particular time, then 
> forever that "snapshot" is a part of a particular Ubuntu release as its 
> "universe" repository. If an individual package urgently needs an update (due 
> to a security exploit or a data-losing bug) there is a process to push a 
> change into an appropriate repository, but the resources for that process are 
> fairly limited.
> 
> If you look at   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash  you'll see 
> that the 3.2 version of GnuCash hasn't yet made it into the Cosmic Cuttlefish 
> release (18.10, due in October) because it's still working its way through 
> the Debian release process.
> 
> Yes, the backports repository is easily available AND the process can be a 
> lower hurdle for updates. It does still take a little effort -- the person 
> requesting the backport requests (or they themselves do) a backport of a 
> package on a standard Ubuntu system. The process involves providing evidence 
> that the backported package builds and runs as expected, and the backport 
> volunteers certify and approve the packages for inclusion.
> 
> It's very easy to enable the backports repository, so this might be a good 
> way to provide an updated GnuCash. 
> 
> I'm not sure whether any other distributions use the Ubuntu Backports 
> repository. Mint might.
> 
> P.S.: I wish I could recommend the snap or flatpak versions of GnuCash, but I 
> don't think either has a well established network of folks keeping those 
> releases debugged and up to date. So (much like the getdeb repository) 
> whatever you see there was likely compiled by a committed individual, not a 
> team. 
> 
> Maybe someone will create GnuCash wiki pages with instructions simple enough 
> that any of us can help update flatpak or snap packages?
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Adrien Monteleone]

Did you try those declarations on ‘#account_tree header label’ instead?

That is, keep the font/text declarations to the ‘label’ class and keep the 
color, padding, margin, and outline declarations to the ‘button’ class. (need 
to experiment and tweak some of these, they might work better on label)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:48 AM, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
> 
> Em qua, 1 de ago de 2018 às 23:38, Adrien Monteleone 
>  escreveu:
> Interesting—it worked for me with a different font. (Helvetica Neue)
> 
> This
> 
> #account_tree header button {
>   font-family: "Helvetica Neue";
>   font-weight: 900;
> } 
> 
> and
> 
> #account_tree header button {
>   font-family: Helvetica;
>   font-weight: 900;
> }
> 
> definitely does not work on Windows. 
> 
> Regards
> GTI 


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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Adrien Monteleone]

I too thought that a master CSS file was an excellent idea, however after 
inspecting the app, such a file would be massive. Now that I’ve gleaned the 
cascade isn’t what I expected, it might be even worse.

I think instead I’d like to pursue a screenshot based approach to point out 
some of the more useful alterations on the more widely used tab sheets and 
since it will be wiki based, others can embellish.

At the least, I’d like to shortly have posted the full Gtk list of ‘possible’ 
rules you can change. (not *all* the nodes, just the rules) Note, as John Ralls 
pointed out, this isn’t like the web. Some rules simply don’t apply to certain 
elements because Gtk hasn’t been coded to account for them. Others might, but 
you have to get it just right or you get no effective changes. I’m not sure of 
the direction Gnome wants to take CSS for Gtk, hopefully it’s to the point of 
near parity with the W3C spec, but if not because of the use cases, that’s 
cool, as long as those differences get documented so we don’t waste time on 
fishing expeditions.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Fross, Michael  wrote:
> 
> I've been following this thread but have no yet had a chance to implement
> the color customization.  I hope all of this great stuff gets into the
> Wiki.  It would be also really interesting to have a master CSS file that
> has all of the known options in it so that folks can just download that and
> tweak it (hopefully with verbose comments.)
> 
> Thank you for all of the work and experimentation on this thread!
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Peter Jackson  wrote:
> 
>> Many thanks. It works nicely.
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> Nurton Court
>> Middleton-on-the-Hill
>> Ludlow SY8 4BD
>> Tel: 01568 750 248 Mob: 07955 586 476
>> 
>> On 2 August 2018 at 15:34, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
>> 
>>> Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 05:28, Peter Jackson 
>>> escreveu:
>>> 
 Adrien,I have been following this with interest and have made changes in
 my
 Windows 10 system. Many thanks. I am wondering if you could you tell me
 how
 I can customise the Notebook Tabs, which, in Preferences, Windows, I
>> have
 set to Top.
 Thanks,
 
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> I've written this here before, here it is:
>>> 
>>> /* Tab Label Settings */
>>> notebook tab label {
>>>  color: blue;
>>>  font-size: 15;
>>> }
>>> 
>>> For more properties you can play with these:
>>> https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_color.asp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> GTI
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Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

He did indicate a few messages ago that he’s using Kubuntu 18.04.

But overall, good advice, regardless.

FYI, from another recent discussion I glean from one of the devs that those 
transaction log files are not needed or even useful once a successful save has 
taken place. That is, only the most recent log file (between the last 
successful save and a crash state) is needed to replay the transactions back 
into the file. You can routinely safely delete the older ones. They won’t be 
used or needed. I use the sqlite3 backend, so I don’t get log files anymore, 
but perhaps one or more of the settings in Preferences can trim those down a 
bit for you.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 12:26 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
> 
> On 08/02/2018 07:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the conversation.
>> 
>> Absolutely you can save your file in a new location.
>> 
>> Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is what 
>> I’d think most people use.
>> 
>> Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the internal 
>> HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the first place?
>> 
>> p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone 
>> else might chime in before me based on your answers.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a long 
>>> name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the program and 
>>> I keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder that can be 
>>> found and close with it. I am using Linux.
>>> 
>>> Richard Barmann
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> Richard,
> You didn't indicate which version of *Nix you have.  I am using Ubuntu
> 18.04.  In my situation, I keep books for personal as well as an LLC I
> own.  In my $HOME folder I created a Finance Folder and under that a
> folder for SteveWanita (could call it Personal) and one for the LLC.  I
> save as to these folders the first time.  And yes, it is a pain the see
> the folder with all the logs and backups in there.  Once in a while I go
> on a jihad to clean them out.  I'm running the supplied backup utility
> to send the daily backups to a Windows share that sits on the Windows
> box (external drive -- always mounted).  On one occasion I had to
> recover my LLC finances from there as I was too aggressive in removing
> the logs/backups.  <>
> 
> However, I can click on the file name and GnuCash fires up with it
> opened and read to go.  Or, I can click on the Icon for GnuCash frozen
> to the left panel and get whichever one I worked on last.  Usually that
> isn't the one I want!
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve
> 
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem (John Ralls)

[V. Vatsal via gnucash-user]

I have tried toggling the Mac OS level tabs as instructed by Dave, but it 
doesn’t make any difference.

The weird mouse behaviour seems limited to certain windows only.

I have no problems navigating the main GnuCash account window or any of its 
tabs; clicking on a line selects that line.

But if I try (say) to import an OFX, then the weird behaviour comes up. It also 
comes up in the file opening dialog box.

I don’t recall having this problem on my machine at home, which is where I had 
been using GnuCash for a while, on the same file. I will try that machine again 
this weekend, and see if it works.



> On Aug 2, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Dave H  wrote:
> 
> Check System Preferences >> Dock >> Prefer Tabs when opening documents - set 
> to "Manually" ?  Mine tabs setting is set to "In Full Screen Only".  I can't 
> say I've noticed the problem running GnuCash 3.2 on High Sierra on a 27" iMac 
> or 15" MacBook Pro.
> 
> Cheers Dave H. 
> 
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 07:21, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> Thanks.
> 
> Where do I turn off MacOS-level tabs? I am running GnuCash with default 
> settings.
> 
> Nike
> 
> 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0700
> > From: John Ralls 
> > To: Adrien Monteleone 
> > Cc: Gnucash Users 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem
> > Message-ID: <6b6aecad-1b44-498a-bbeb-30dd37e77...@ceridwen.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > Adrien,
> > It?s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 
> >  and the most recent 
> > discussion there says it?s related to 
> > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 
> > , that the new-in-Sierra 
> > application window tab feature messes up Gtk?s understanding of mouse 
> > coordinates.
> > Nike,
> > Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
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[GNC] Compile of 3.2 fails

[Michael via gnucash-user]

I am trying to build gnucash-3.2 on Linux Mint just upgraded to 19.  
cmake was successful.  make fails at about 30%.  Generating 
../../lib/gnucash/scm/ccache/2.0/gnucash/core-utils.go.  recipe for 
target failed.


I thought I had it made when cmake worked.  Any ideas?  Mike


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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Wanted - translators, follow up

[John Ralls]

Dmitry,

Totally up to you. It's not a big deal for us to merge one, especially if 
they're small.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 2, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Di Mang  wrote:
> 
> Hi John und Geert,
> 
> I have a general question about updating the translations. Sometimes, when I 
> use the GnuCash application in Russian or German, I find some places with 
> missing or not quite correct translations or formatting. 
> 
> What kind of translation update would you prefer? Should I collect such small 
> improvements in translations / formatting for a long time and then file it 
> together?
> Or would it be okay, if I would file such improvements in small packages - 
> for example, once a week / every two week?
> 
> Regards,
> Di Mang
> 
> 2018-08-02 2:41 GMT+02:00 John Ralls :
> Many thanks to the translators, new and long-standing, who’ve been working to 
> get the message catalogs updated for 3.x!
> 
> But we need a lot more help for the many translations whose past translators 
> have moved on.
> The following translations are seriously out of date:
> Language  Last translation:
> Spanish (Nicaragua):  2001-10-22
> *Azerbaijani: 2001-11-27
> *Kinyarwanda:   2005-04-04
> *Basque:   2005-08-05
> Nepali: 2006-08-21
> Vietnamese: 2007-12-29
> Hebrew:2009-04-21
> Korean: 2009-07-15
> *Chinese (Simplified):2010-07-13
> Polish:  2010-09-07
> Hungarian:   2011-07-30
> Bulgarian:2011-10-25
> *Czech:2012-03-29
> Chinese (Traditional):   2012-05-13
> 
> The translations marked with * are managed by The Translation Project [1]. 
> Please contact the TP team--the email address should be in the catalog (po) 
> file--before you start work, but if they seem unwilling to work with you by 
> all means contact us either on one of the mailing lists or IRC.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> [1] http://translationproject.org/domain/gnucash.html 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Geert Janssens  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I recently sent out a request for translations for our newest gnucash 
> > series.
> > 
> > I'm pleased there has already been some response!
> > 
> > Yuri Chornoivan is working hard on the Ukrainian translation. His latest 
> > translation file has brought the number of translated strings to 4245, an 
> > impressive improvement to the previous 2826 in 3.1.
> > 
> > Hamidreza Jafari has submitted improvements to the Persian translation, 
> > adding 
> > 90 translations in that language. By the way this is a nice illustration 
> > that 
> > improvements can also be submitted incrementally. I hope to receive more of 
> > such incremental changes.
> > 
> > And   Alain Sanguinetti offered to help on the French translation. I 
> > eagerly 
> > await his first translations.
> > 
> > While this is a good start, we're not done yet. More help is most welcome!
> > 
> > You don't have to know how to program to help out. Understanding (some) 
> > English and your mother tongue are the most important skills you'll need.
> > 
> > Oh, and as I was pointed out after my previous rally, we have a wiki page 
> > that 
> > explains the nitty gritty details of translation work:
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation
> > 
> > If you think you can help, by all means let us know. If you don't know very 
> > well how to start, just ask. I'm more than happy to help you take your 
> > first 
> > steps.
> > 
> > I can promise you this: you'll get a very warm feeling when you will open a 
> > future version of gnucash and find your translations appear in the 
> > interface. 
> > And as an added benefit you'll receive the gratitude of all users that can 
> > now 
> > enjoy gnucash a bit more in their own language.
> > 
> > Geert
> > 
> > P.S. I'll finish this mail with my gratitude for all our existing 
> > translators 
> > who have been with out through all the years. Your efforts have been and 
> > are 
> > still equally valuable. Please do continue with you fine work in the future!
> > 
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem (John Ralls)

[Dave H]

Check System Preferences >> Dock >> Prefer Tabs when opening documents -
set to "Manually" ?  Mine tabs setting is set to "In Full Screen Only".  I
can't say I've noticed the problem running GnuCash 3.2 on High Sierra on a
27" iMac or 15" MacBook Pro.

Cheers Dave H.

On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 07:21, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Where do I turn off MacOS-level tabs? I am running GnuCash with default
> settings.
>
> Nike
>
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0700
> > From: John Ralls 
> > To: Adrien Monteleone 
> > Cc: Gnucash Users 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem
> > Message-ID: <6b6aecad-1b44-498a-bbeb-30dd37e77...@ceridwen.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > Adrien,
> > It?s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 <
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602> and the most recent
> discussion there says it?s related to
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 <
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029>, that the new-in-Sierra
> application window tab feature messes up Gtk?s understanding of mouse
> coordinates.
> > Nike,
> > Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem (John Ralls)

[V. Vatsal via gnucash-user]

Thanks.

Where do I turn off MacOS-level tabs? I am running GnuCash with default 
settings.

Nike


> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0700
> From: John Ralls 
> To: Adrien Monteleone 
> Cc: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange Mac OS interface problem
> Message-ID: <6b6aecad-1b44-498a-bbeb-30dd37e77...@ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> Adrien,
> It?s https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776602 
>  and the most recent 
> discussion there says it?s related to 
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 
> , that the new-in-Sierra 
> application window tab feature messes up Gtk?s understanding of mouse 
> coordinates.
> Nike,
> Are you using MacOS-level tabs? If so, turn them off.
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Wanted - translators, follow up

[Di Mang]

Hi John und Geert,

I have a general question about updating the translations. Sometimes, when
I use the GnuCash application in Russian or German, I find some places with
missing or not quite correct translations or formatting.

What kind of translation update would you prefer? Should I collect such
small improvements in translations / formatting for a long time and then
file it together?
Or would it be okay, if I would file such improvements in small packages -
for example, once a week / every two week?

Regards,
Di Mang

2018-08-02 2:41 GMT+02:00 John Ralls :

> Many thanks to the translators, new and long-standing, who’ve been working
> to get the message catalogs updated for 3.x!
>
> But we need a lot more help for the many translations whose past
> translators have moved on.
> The following translations are seriously out of date:
> Language  Last translation:
> Spanish (Nicaragua):  2001-10-22
> *Azerbaijani: 2001-11-27
> *Kinyarwanda:   2005-04-04
> *Basque:   2005-08-05
> Nepali: 2006-08-21
> Vietnamese: 2007-12-29
> Hebrew:2009-04-21
> Korean: 2009-07-15
> *Chinese (Simplified):2010-07-13
> Polish:  2010-09-07
> Hungarian:   2011-07-30
> Bulgarian:2011-10-25
> *Czech:2012-03-29
> Chinese (Traditional):   2012-05-13
>
> The translations marked with * are managed by The Translation Project [1].
> Please contact the TP team--the email address should be in the catalog (po)
> file--before you start work, but if they seem unwilling to work with you by
> all means contact us either on one of the mailing lists or IRC.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
> [1] http://translationproject.org/domain/gnucash.html <
> http://translationproject.org/domain/gnucash.html>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Geert Janssens 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently sent out a request for translations for our newest gnucash
> series.
> >
> > I'm pleased there has already been some response!
> >
> > Yuri Chornoivan is working hard on the Ukrainian translation. His latest
> > translation file has brought the number of translated strings to 4245,
> an
> > impressive improvement to the previous 2826 in 3.1.
> >
> > Hamidreza Jafari has submitted improvements to the Persian translation,
> adding
> > 90 translations in that language. By the way this is a nice illustration
> that
> > improvements can also be submitted incrementally. I hope to receive more
> of
> > such incremental changes.
> >
> > And   Alain Sanguinetti offered to help on the French translation. I
> eagerly
> > await his first translations.
> >
> > While this is a good start, we're not done yet. More help is most
> welcome!
> >
> > You don't have to know how to program to help out. Understanding (some)
> > English and your mother tongue are the most important skills you'll need.
> >
> > Oh, and as I was pointed out after my previous rally, we have a wiki
> page that
> > explains the nitty gritty details of translation work:
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation
> >
> > If you think you can help, by all means let us know. If you don't know
> very
> > well how to start, just ask. I'm more than happy to help you take your
> first
> > steps.
> >
> > I can promise you this: you'll get a very warm feeling when you will
> open a
> > future version of gnucash and find your translations appear in the
> interface.
> > And as an added benefit you'll receive the gratitude of all users that
> can now
> > enjoy gnucash a bit more in their own language.
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > P.S. I'll finish this mail with my gratitude for all our existing
> translators
> > who have been with out through all the years. Your efforts have been and
> are
> > still equally valuable. Please do continue with you fine work in the
> future!
> >
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Re: [GNC] Operating Checking Account in Overdraft

[Christian Kluge]

Am 02.08.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Mike or Penny Novack:
> On 8/2/2018 9:21 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> 
>> I have sent an email to the Australian and New Zealand Chartered
>> Accountants asking them the question.
>>
>> I will let you know what they say.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Murray
> 
> This is something we here in the US can't help much on because we do not
> have "two way checking accounts". We might have checking accounts with
> "overdraft protection" but with those the credit balance situation is
> assumed to be temporary. We might have lines of credit accounts against
> which checks can be written (normal way to make disbursements from the
> account) but with these the balance is almost never* debit, the account
> a liability. What we don't have is accounts designed to be used either way.
> 
> Michael D. Novack
> 


In Germany this account would also be listed as a liability on the
balance shield.

In fact the accounting program I use at work lets you select secondary
account types so that accounts with a negative balance get assigned a
new position on the other side of the balance sheet.

Maybe this could also be a possible idea for GnuCash.

Kind Regards,


Christian Kluge

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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[Deva -]

If you are talking about setting up a schedule transaction that recurs every 28 
days, you can try this -

- right click on a transaction you want to schedule and choose menu option 
“Schedule”
- In the window that opens, click on Advanced
- On the Advanced Editor window, click on “Frequency” tab
- Here, you can choose frequency as “daily” and set the field “Every…days” tp 28

If you want to schedule a transaction without ever having entered one, you can 
go to Actions->Scheduled Transaction Editor, then on the ST editor tab that 
opens, you can click on menu option - Schedule->Add…

These dialogs and workflow are on Mac OS, GC 3.2. Other OS should be similar.

Cheers.

On 02-Aug-2018, at 9:30 PM, 
mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org>> 
mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org>> 
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 10:41:08 -0500 (CDT)
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Subject: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days
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I am using this for home use. I get some of my payments every 28 days. Can
anybody give me any pointers on how I can do the 28 day pay-in?



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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[Colin Law]

Can't find how to do what?

On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, 18:56 adb34 via gnucash-user, 
wrote:

> Thank you. I have the manual here I cannot find out how to do it. Thank you
> again
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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[adb34 via gnucash-user]

Thank you. I have the manual here I cannot find out how to do it. Thank you
again



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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 08/02/2018 10:36 AM, adb34 via gnucash-user wrote:
> I got v3.1 from the site. I have now v3.2. To upgrade just run the v3.2 and
> install over the top?

If you do that, there will be a couple of files you need to remove by
hand (duplicate reports).  I took that route and had to chase those down
(look in the archives for the details).  Better to uninstall the old
version first.  Be sure you have copies of your data somewhere safe (not
in the installed program folder).

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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

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I got v3.1 from the site. I have now v3.2. To upgrade just run the v3.2 and
install over the top?




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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[Colin Law]

On 2 August 2018 at 18:13, adb34 via gnucash-user 
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> I am using v3.1 All I have in the drop down tab is; None, once, daily,
> weekly, semi-monthly, monthly
>

You should not be running 3.1 I don't think.  You should upgrade to 3.2 or
later.
Choose Weekly or Daily, then below that there should be a field labelled
Every .. Weeks  (or days).
If you don't see that then I guess it is a bug in 3.1.

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Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash

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On 08/02/2018 07:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the conversation.
> 
> Absolutely you can save your file in a new location.
>
> Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is what 
> I’d think most people use.
>
> Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the internal 
> HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the first place?
>
> p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone else 
> might chime in before me based on your answers.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann  wrote:
>>
>> How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a long 
>> name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the program and 
>> I keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder that can be 
>> found and close with it. I am using Linux.
>>
>> Richard Barmann
>>
>>

Richard,
You didn't indicate which version of *Nix you have.  I am using Ubuntu
18.04.  In my situation, I keep books for personal as well as an LLC I
own.  In my $HOME folder I created a Finance Folder and under that a
folder for SteveWanita (could call it Personal) and one for the LLC.  I
save as to these folders the first time.  And yes, it is a pain the see
the folder with all the logs and backups in there.  Once in a while I go
on a jihad to clean them out.  I'm running the supplied backup utility
to send the daily backups to a Windows share that sits on the Windows
box (external drive -- always mounted).  On one occasion I had to
recover my LLC finances from there as I was too aggressive in removing
the logs/backups.  <>

However, I can click on the file name and GnuCash fires up with it
opened and read to go.  Or, I can click on the Icon for GnuCash frozen
to the left panel and get whichever one I worked on last.  Usually that
isn't the one I want!

Hope this helps.

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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote: CPAN or GitHub?

[rosid]

Tanks for the info. I will wait until the next release.



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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

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I am using v3.1 All I have in the drop down tab is; None, once, daily,
weekly, semi-monthly, monthly



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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[Colin Law]

On 2 August 2018 at 17:27, adb34 via gnucash-user 
wrote:

> So I have to make a new schedule and then alter it? I cannot see anything
> other the list. Nothing saying put what you want in here. Or have I missed
> something?
>

Actions > Scheduled Transactions > Scheduled Transaction Editor
Click on the icon with the + to create a new one, then on the Frequency tab
you can select what you want.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya and Gnucash 3.2

[Tommy Trussell]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:45 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the run-down.
>
> So simply a case of Universe not pulling an update from Sid yet then? (or
> will that never happen and each release’s Universe is always tied to
> Testing? and then Stable, etc.) I know there is a separate backports
> repository as well. Perhaps that’s a better solution?
>
> Regards,
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>
>
Ubuntu works on the premise that you have well defined releases every six
months, with processes for updating individual packages in special cases.
The vast majority of packages get copied from Debian at a particular time,
then forever that "snapshot" is a part of a particular Ubuntu release as
its "universe" repository. If an individual package urgently needs an
update (due to a security exploit or a data-losing bug) there is a process
to push a change into an appropriate repository, but the resources for that
process are fairly limited.

If you look at   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash  you'll see
that the 3.2 version of GnuCash hasn't yet made it into the Cosmic
Cuttlefish release (18.10, due in October) because it's still working its
way through the Debian release process.

Yes, the backports repository is easily available AND the process can be a
lower hurdle for updates. It does still take a little effort -- the person
requesting the backport requests (or they themselves do) a backport of a
package on a standard Ubuntu system. The process involves providing
evidence that the backported package builds and runs as expected, and the
backport volunteers certify and approve the packages for inclusion.

It's very easy to enable the backports repository, so this might be a good
way to provide an updated GnuCash.

I'm not sure whether any other distributions use the Ubuntu Backports
repository. Mint might.

P.S.: I wish I could recommend the snap or flatpak versions of GnuCash, but
I don't think either has a well established network of folks keeping those
releases debugged and up to date. So (much like the getdeb repository)
whatever you see there was likely compiled by a committed individual, not a
team.

Maybe someone will create GnuCash wiki pages with instructions simple
enough that any of us can help update flatpak or snap packages?

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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[adb34 via gnucash-user]

So I have to make a new schedule and then alter it? I cannot see anything
other the list. Nothing saying put what you want in here. Or have I missed
something?



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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[GT-I9070 H]

Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 11:39, Fross, Michael 
escreveu:

> I've been following this thread but have no yet had a chance to implement
> the color customization.  I hope all of this great stuff gets into the
> Wiki.  It would be also really interesting to have a master CSS file that
> has all of the known options in it so that folks can just download that and
> tweak it (hopefully with verbose comments.)
>
> Thank you for all of the work and experimentation on this thread!
>
> Michael
>

Hi Michael,

Words like yours are gratifying and stimulating!

There is already a sample css file on the Wiki or somewhere, it needs to be
updated.
Adrien said that he intends to put this information in the Wiki, but in a
community of shared efforts any of US can do it, do not waste time to do it!

Since when I met GnuCash I did not like its interface, the old themes
improved a bit but the old GTK had a prehistoric appearance.
Now with GTK+ 3, we have had a significant visual improvement and now with
some customizations, GnuCash looks beautiful, it is more beautiful than
ever!
Now I'm satisfied when I open and see GnuCash!

I think this will bring a lot of new members to our community, you know how
it is: Appearances is everything!


Regards
GTI
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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[Colin Law]

On 2 August 2018 at 16:41, adb34 via gnucash-user 
wrote:

> I am using this for home use. I get some of my payments every 28 days. Can
> anybody give me any pointers on how I can do the 28 day pay-in?
>

Use a Scheduled Transaction scheduled for weekly, every four weeks.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[David Carlson]

The Scheduled Transaction editor can be set to repeat daily or every 28
days or whatever you want.

David C

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:41 AM, adb34 via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I am using this for home use. I get some of my payments every 28 days. Can
> anybody give me any pointers on how I can do the 28 day pay-in?
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[GT-I9070 H]

Em qua, 1 de ago de 2018 às 23:38, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> Interesting—it worked for me with a different font. (Helvetica Neue)
>

This

#account_tree header button {
  font-family: "Helvetica Neue";
  font-weight: 900;
}

and

#account_tree header button {
  font-family: Helvetica;
  font-weight: 900;
}

definitely does not work on Windows.

Regards
GTI
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[GNC] Frequency of 28 Days

[adb34 via gnucash-user]

I am using this for home use. I get some of my payments every 28 days. Can
anybody give me any pointers on how I can do the 28 day pay-in?



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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Fross, Michael]

I've been following this thread but have no yet had a chance to implement
the color customization.  I hope all of this great stuff gets into the
Wiki.  It would be also really interesting to have a master CSS file that
has all of the known options in it so that folks can just download that and
tweak it (hopefully with verbose comments.)

Thank you for all of the work and experimentation on this thread!

Michael

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Peter Jackson  wrote:

> Many thanks. It works nicely.
> Peter
>
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> On 2 August 2018 at 15:34, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
>
> > Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 05:28, Peter Jackson 
> > escreveu:
> >
> >> Adrien,I have been following this with interest and have made changes in
> >> my
> >> Windows 10 system. Many thanks. I am wondering if you could you tell me
> >> how
> >> I can customise the Notebook Tabs, which, in Preferences, Windows, I
> have
> >> set to Top.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >
> >  Hi Peter,
> >
> > I've written this here before, here it is:
> >
> > /* Tab Label Settings */
> > notebook tab label {
> >   color: blue;
> >   font-size: 15;
> > }
> >
> > For more properties you can play with these:
> > https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_color.asp
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > GTI
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Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash

[David Carlson]

Richard,

Some versions of GnuCash are not able to find GnuCash data files that are
in network servers or USB removable drives.  There is a bug report about
that.

However, If your file manager program is able to mount and view the
directory containing the data file, you can either double click the file
icon directly and GnuCash will open that file or just start GnuCash from
the program icon and it will open that file if it was the last file used.

David C

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the
> conversation.
> 
> Absolutely you can save your file in a new location.
>
> Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is
> what I’d think most people use.
>
> Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the
> internal HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the
> first place?
>
> p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone
> else might chime in before me based on your answers.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann 
> wrote:
> >
> > How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a
> long name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the
> program and I keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder
> that can be found and close with it. I am using Linux.
> >
> > Richard Barmann
> >
> >
> > On 07/31/2018 02:33 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> Just open the app from the app launcher icon, not the file. It will
> re-open the last used file automatically.
> >>
> >> What OS are you using?
> >>
> >> On Windows this would be from Start > Programs > Gnucash
> >> On Linux you’d use your menu or Applications screen and click the
> GnuCash icon
> >> On Mac, you’d click the GnuCash icon from either Launchpad or the
> Applications folder
> >>
> >> All three systems provide a quick-launch or dock area where you might
> have placed the icon, and most allow you to have a launcher icon on your
> desktop. These both depend on how you installed the app and if you placed
> launchers there.
> >>
> >> Just for info, the data file ends in .gnucash, the log files in .log.
> You can safely delete any log file but perhaps the most recent. (part of
> the file name for each is a date and time before the .log extension) you
> can also use a detail or list view in your file browser to see file
> modification/creation dates/times and sort accordingly if you ever need.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >>
> >>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Richard Barmann 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> When I want to reopen Gnucash the next day I have to scroll through the
> >>> files to try to pick out the latest file. T trid closing with the Quit
> >>> at the bottom of the page and also tried to Save as but they always
> have
> >>> to scroll through to open the latest file. Some of the files names are
> >>> so long that I cannot tell if they are log fills. and I have to guess
> >>> until I find the last one.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for any help as this is a time killer when I am in a hurry.
> >>>
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Peter Jackson]

Many thanks. It works nicely.
Peter


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On 2 August 2018 at 15:34, GT-I9070 H  wrote:

> Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 05:28, Peter Jackson 
> escreveu:
>
>> Adrien,I have been following this with interest and have made changes in
>> my
>> Windows 10 system. Many thanks. I am wondering if you could you tell me
>> how
>> I can customise the Notebook Tabs, which, in Preferences, Windows, I have
>> set to Top.
>> Thanks,
>>
>
>  Hi Peter,
>
> I've written this here before, here it is:
>
> /* Tab Label Settings */
> notebook tab label {
>   color: blue;
>   font-size: 15;
> }
>
> For more properties you can play with these:
> https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_color.asp
>
>
> Regards
> GTI
>
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Re: [GNC] Operating Checking Account in Overdraft

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 8/2/2018 9:21 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:


I have sent an email to the Australian and New Zealand Chartered Accountants 
asking them the question.

I will let you know what they say.

Kind Regards,

Murray


This is something we here in the US can't help much on because we do not 
have "two way checking accounts". We might have checking accounts with 
"overdraft protection" but with those the credit balance situation is 
assumed to be temporary. We might have lines of credit accounts against 
which checks can be written (normal way to make disbursements from the 
account) but with these the balance is almost never* debit, the account 
a liability. What we don't have is accounts designed to be used either way.


Michael D. Novack

* Having had one of these many decades ago, I seem to recall sometimes 
making an extra large payment before leaving for a month or two hiking. 
But this would be a temporary situation, just like temporary the other 
way around with a checking account that had overdraft protection. I had 
one of those two back then, but can't remember how long I had to 
straighten out a "overdraft" situation.

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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[GT-I9070 H]

Em qui, 2 de ago de 2018 às 05:28, Peter Jackson 
escreveu:

> Adrien,I have been following this with interest and have made changes in my
> Windows 10 system. Many thanks. I am wondering if you could you tell me how
> I can customise the Notebook Tabs, which, in Preferences, Windows, I have
> set to Top.
> Thanks,
>

 Hi Peter,

I've written this here before, here it is:

/* Tab Label Settings */
notebook tab label {
  color: blue;
  font-size: 15;
}

For more properties you can play with these:
https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_color.asp


Regards
GTI
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Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash

[Adrien Monteleone]

First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the conversation.

Absolutely you can save your file in a new location.

Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is what I’d 
think most people use.

Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the internal 
HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the first place?

p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone else 
might chime in before me based on your answers.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann  wrote:
> 
> How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a long 
> name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the program and I 
> keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder that can be 
> found and close with it. I am using Linux.
> 
> Richard Barmann
> 
> 
> On 07/31/2018 02:33 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> Richard,
>> 
>> Just open the app from the app launcher icon, not the file. It will re-open 
>> the last used file automatically.
>> 
>> What OS are you using?
>> 
>> On Windows this would be from Start > Programs > Gnucash
>> On Linux you’d use your menu or Applications screen and click the GnuCash 
>> icon
>> On Mac, you’d click the GnuCash icon from either Launchpad or the 
>> Applications folder
>> 
>> All three systems provide a quick-launch or dock area where you might have 
>> placed the icon, and most allow you to have a launcher icon on your desktop. 
>> These both depend on how you installed the app and if you placed launchers 
>> there.
>> 
>> Just for info, the data file ends in .gnucash, the log files in .log. You 
>> can safely delete any log file but perhaps the most recent. (part of the 
>> file name for each is a date and time before the .log extension) you can 
>> also use a detail or list view in your file browser to see file 
>> modification/creation dates/times and sort accordingly if you ever need.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Richard Barmann  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I want to reopen Gnucash the next day I have to scroll through the
>>> files to try to pick out the latest file. T trid closing with the Quit
>>> at the bottom of the page and also tried to Save as but they always have
>>> to scroll through to open the latest file. Some of the files names are
>>> so long that I cannot tell if they are log fills. and I have to guess
>>> until I find the last one.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for any help as this is a time killer when I am in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote: CPAN or GitHub?

[John Ralls]

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Daniel Rosenberg  wrote:
> 
> I recently discovered that there is a more up to date version of
> Finance::Quote on GitHub than on CPAN (last update made in november 2017).
> I am using GnuCash 3.2 on WIndows 10 with Strawberry Perl. When I use
> gnc-fq-update it seems to got to CPAN and not GitHub, is that correct?
> 
> I am having trouble getting Alphavantage quotes for 4 or 5 days now, and I
> read that the Alphavantage.pm on GitHub already adresses some problems.
> Do I need to switch to GitHub? How do I do that?

No, the latest release on Github is 1.47, the same as is available in CPAN. 
There are unreleased changes in the Finance Quote repo just like there are 
unreleased changes in the GnuCash repo and pretty much every repo on Github or 
anywhere else.

You can’t “switch to Github”, it’s not an alternative location for distributing 
perl packages. You can clone the repository and build Finance Quote by hand if 
you’re comfortable with the Perl build system. Otherwise you just have to wait 
for Erik to do a release.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Operating Checking Account in Overdraft

[Adrien Monteleone]

Your welcome, but please always reply to or copy the list so others can benefit 
from the conversation.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Aug 2, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Murray Field  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> I have sent an email to the Australian and New Zealand Chartered Accountants 
> asking them the question.
> 
> I will let you know what they say.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Murray 
> 
> 
> 
> Get Outlook for Android
> 
> From: gnucash-user  on 
> behalf of Adrien Monteleone 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:27:56 PM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Operating Checking Account in Overdraft
>  
> Interesting question, but this really would be for a local CPA who’s familiar 
> with rules and laws for your jurisdiction to answer. You may find some 
> general guidance on the web for the basic situation and what accounts it will 
> involve. Here’s something that might be helpful: 
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsimplestudies.com%2Faccounting_for_bank_and_book_overdrafts_and_their_cash_flow_presentation.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7C515f228f7c224b489b5508d5f6bfe28d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636686226361982728sdata=F61HAIH4HaSzOgE9PAwG2Kzl5A7HvwuOEqerwILneso%3Dreserved=0
> 
> Once you know where it should be classified, if you need help doing this in 
> GnuCash, someone here can help.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Jul 31, 2018, at 2:14 AM, Murray Field  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We have a permanent overdraft with our bank and we operate our account 
> > fluctuating within   the overdraft limit approved.
> > 
> > How should this be classified in gnucash?
> > 
> > As an asset, a liability or something else? We could not find any reference 
> > to our situation in your guide which we have downloaded.
> > 
> > We are potential new users.
> > 
> > Kind Regards,
> > 
> > Murray and Yvonne Field
> > 
> > 
> > Get Outlook for 
> > Android
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Adrien Monteleone]

Peter,

I saw those last night, but haven’t played with them yet.

I’ll fire up the inspector later this evening and report back what I find.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 4:28 AM, Peter Jackson  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,I have been following this with interest and have made changes in my 
> Windows 10 system. Many thanks. I am wondering if you could you tell me how I 
> can customise the Notebook Tabs, which, in Preferences, Windows, I have set 
> to Top.
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> Nurton Court
> Middleton-on-the-Hill
> Ludlow SY8 4BD
> Tel: 01568 750 248 Mob: 07955 586 476
> 
> On 2 August 2018 at 04:46, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> Oh, and if ‘font-family: Arial Bold;’ works, but ‘font-weight: bold;’ on the 
> regular Arial font does not, then ‘font-weight: bold;’ is likely not working 
> at all.
> 
> ‘Arial Bold’ is it’s own distinct font. (though the original ‘Arial’ can be 
> made to look bold in most applications. There are several other variants of 
> Arial as well.)
> 
> Most web browsers will first try to use a natural bold variant if found 
> before doing their own font weighting, but Gtk may not be getting either of 
> these methods right.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 4:53 PM, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
> > 
> > Em qua, 1 de ago de 2018 às 16:54, Adrien Monteleone 
> >  escreveu:
> > font-weight: bold might depend on the font file itself, though Arial pretty 
> > much includes the kitchen sink and a dishwasher for good measure.
> > 
> > Try:
> > 
> > font-weight: 600;
> > 
> > You can use #s instead of names in increments of 100. (100,200,300...900) I 
> > think 400 is the same as ’normal’.
> > 
> > I had forgotten to say that this
> > 
> >  #account_tree header button {
> >   font-family: Arial Bold;
> > }
> > 
> > and
> > 
> >  #account_tree {
> >   font-weight: 600;
> > }
> > 
> > works, and I had already tested this
> > 
> > #account_tree header button {
> >   font-weight: 600;
> > }
> > 
> > for several values and does not work.
> > See: https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_font_weight.asp
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > GTI
> 
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[GNC] Finance::Quote: CPAN or GitHub?

[Daniel Rosenberg]

I recently discovered that there is a more up to date version of
Finance::Quote on GitHub than on CPAN (last update made in november 2017).
I am using GnuCash 3.2 on WIndows 10 with Strawberry Perl. When I use
gnc-fq-update it seems to got to CPAN and not GitHub, is that correct?

I am having trouble getting Alphavantage quotes for 4 or 5 days now, and I
read that the Alphavantage.pm on GitHub already adresses some problems.
Do I need to switch to GitHub? How do I do that?

Thanks in advance
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Re: [GNC] Change text color

[Peter Jackson]

Adrien,I have been following this with interest and have made changes in my
Windows 10 system. Many thanks. I am wondering if you could you tell me how
I can customise the Notebook Tabs, which, in Preferences, Windows, I have
set to Top.
Thanks,

Peter


Nurton Court
Middleton-on-the-Hill
Ludlow SY8 4BD
Tel: 01568 750 248 Mob: 07955 586 476

On 2 August 2018 at 04:46, Adrien Monteleone  wrote:

> Oh, and if ‘font-family: Arial Bold;’ works, but ‘font-weight: bold;’ on
> the regular Arial font does not, then ‘font-weight: bold;’ is likely not
> working at all.
>
> ‘Arial Bold’ is it’s own distinct font. (though the original ‘Arial’ can
> be made to look bold in most applications. There are several other variants
> of Arial as well.)
>
> Most web browsers will first try to use a natural bold variant if found
> before doing their own font weighting, but Gtk may not be getting either of
> these methods right.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 4:53 PM, GT-I9070 H  wrote:
> >
> > Em qua, 1 de ago de 2018 às 16:54, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:
> > font-weight: bold might depend on the font file itself, though Arial
> pretty much includes the kitchen sink and a dishwasher for good measure.
> >
> > Try:
> >
> > font-weight: 600;
> >
> > You can use #s instead of names in increments of 100.
> (100,200,300...900) I think 400 is the same as ’normal’.
> >
> > I had forgotten to say that this
> >
> >  #account_tree header button {
> >   font-family: Arial Bold;
> > }
> >
> > and
> >
> >  #account_tree {
> >   font-weight: 600;
> > }
> >
> > works, and I had already tested this
> >
> > #account_tree header button {
> >   font-weight: 600;
> > }
> >
> > for several values and does not work.
> > See: https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_font_weight.asp
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > GTI
>
>
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