Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Interest

2018-12-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Hamid,

This certainly looks like a usage issue to me. Perhaps you are misunderstanding 
a prior response.

If you need to set up non-interest bearing loans, use the Scheduled Transaction 
feature.

If the loan you need to set up is interest-bearing, then use the Mortgage 
Assistant.

Both types of loans are currently possible. One is not favored over the other.

Non-interest loans don’t need a special calculator.

Interest-bearing loans do, so one was created and included.

The loan feature doesn’t ‘aggregate’ all of your loans into one place. It’s 
just a special calculator.

The loan ‘lives' in a liability account.

The same is true for non-interest loans set up with the Schedule Transaction 
editor, as well as for loans you manually manage in the general journal without 
any special tools.

There’s no need to re-design the software or to create a special non-interest 
loan feature because this is already possible with the current functionality, 
just not the functionality you were trying to use.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Hamidreza Jafari  wrote:
> 
> I didn't follow Michael D Novack. Though I can clarify on some issues that 
> were mentioned.
> 
> 1 - Translation is not complete, my usage of the app is not exhaustive to try 
> its ins and outs. I questioned if GnuCash is built with the mindset of 
> priming 
> interest over non-interest. The string I mentioned has either redundant 
> information or contradicting information.
> 
> 2 - I do not intend to draw lines but rather to question the line itself. 
> That 
> way agreement is facilitated or disagreement shows its hidden points of 
> conflict.
> 
> 3 - If GnuCash has a part dedicated to loans, a user would be happy to have 
> all info about his loans under a Loans section rather than keeping notes to 
> himself in roundabout ways. Accounting is a form of bookkeeping but usage of 
> computing machines has provided some nifty features not possible with books. 
> I 
> talked about extending and refactoring to provide support if missing. This is 
> about development not usage.
> 
> Hamid
> 
> On چهارشنبه ۱۲ دسامبر ۲۰۱۸ ۰:۴۱:۰۸ (+0330) Frank H. Ellenberger wrote:
>> Hello Michael,
>> 
>> Am 11.12.18 um 16:32 schrieb Michael or Penny Novack:
>>> On 12/11/2018 7:05 AM, Hamidreza Jafari wrote:
 Enter the annual interest rate in percent. Accepts values from 0.001 -
 100.
 The Mortgage Assistant does not support zero-interest loans.
 
 What's the situation?
 
 Hamid
>>> 
>>> Needed for more than just Islam BUT perhaps this belongs in the "user"
>>> discussion as maybe no programming involved.
>> 
>> If one of our translators comes up with such a question, there might -
>> not must - something be suboptimal with our MsgIds, their documentation
>> or our user doocumentation.
>> 
>>> You would need/use the "mortgage assistant" only for an amortizing loan
>>> WITH interest. Just because you might be thinking of a loan as for the
>>> same purpose as a mortgage (buying a house, etc.) does not make it one
>>> as the term is being used in gnucash.
>> 
>> I would go further than Hamid. If you see the deposit facility rate at
>> https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_and_exchange_rates/key_ecb_interest_r
>> ates/html/index.en.html
>> 
>> it is time to drop the restriction and allow zero and negative interest
>> rates.
>> 
>>> Put your question on the other list as a "how do I do in gnucash"
>>> spelling out ALL of the conditions of this loan. I'm not a Muslim but do
>>> have an understanding of some of the forms of "no interest" loans and so
>>> understand that while no interest MAY be conditions of "profit sharing"
>>> if the property involved is sold before the loan paid off. Or in the
>>> condition of losses if not forbidden as "iron sheep" contracts << that's
>>> just to show you I do know something about traditional societies >>
>>> 
>>> Michael D Novack
>> 
>> ~Frank
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Re: [GNC] Budgeting

2018-12-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Peter,

I’ll have to test with nested unused accounts and get back to you.

Please remember to copy the list on all replies so others can benefit from the 
discussion.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Peter088  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Adrien,
> 
> That got me part of the way.  However, I am still not seeing any
> cells/values for the lowest nested level of each account.  For example,
> Expenses:Auto:Licensing shows and editable cell at the Auto level even
> though there are no transactions in that account, but not at the Licensing
> level.
> 
> Is there a way to set those values as well?
> 
> Thanks very much,
> 
> Peter
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone
> Sent: Monday, 10 December 2018 12:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [GNC] Budgeting
> 
> View > Filter By... > Other > Show unused accounts
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 12:56 AM, Peter088 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm a very new user coming over from Quicken.  I'm trying to work out the
>> budget feature.  In trying to create a budget and following the
>> instructions, I seem to only have the opportunity to budget for expenses
>> (accounts) that have at least one transaction in them.  How can I set up a
>> budget for accounts that have not yet incurred any transactions?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: [GNC] Reconciling different periods?

2018-12-11 Thread D via gnucash-user
I'm not sure I fully understand your question, but perhaps it will be cleared 
if I tell you that reconciling is a process that applies **as of a certain 
date.**

In other words, the bank says my balance *as of* December 11 is $100.00. When I 
reconcile, I enter that closing balance, and then confirm my transactions with 
the statement. If they end up the same at the end, then I can say my account is 
reconciled as of December 11.

The point is, if you have a closing balance on a statement, you will be 
reconciling every transaction prior to that date that the bank has registered, 
which I believe means the answer to your specific question is "yes."

 HTH,
David

On December 11, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Finbar Mahon  wrote:

Hi,

My reconcile is a bit erratic. So, I thought of trying to find the error 
by reconciling for different periods. If I put in the date for the last 
statement for the period I want to check, can I just put in an amount as 
the ending balance that coincides with the starting period and that way 
check on a period by period basis?

I know it sounds complicated but I cannot think of a better way of doing it.

Thanks

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Re: [GNC] Reconciling different periods?

2018-12-11 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 11 Dec 2018, at 16:40, Finbar Mahon  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My reconcile is a bit erratic. So, I thought of trying to find the error by 
> reconciling for different periods. If I put in the date for the last 
> statement for the period I want to check, can I just put in an amount as the 
> ending balance that coincides with the starting period and that way check on 
> a period by period basis?
> 
> I know it sounds complicated but I cannot think of a better way of doing it.
> 
> Thanks

Afternoon, Finbar.

As a user of GC since 2010 for my personal accounts, I would advise that you 
step back from this precipice before you jump over it!

I urge you go back far enough in your accounts to get to a bank statement that 
is in exact agreement with your accounts, then work your way systematically 
forward from that date, correcting any erroneous entries in your accounts as 
you go.

Ideally, you should mark everything beyond the reconciliation date as 
“unreconciled” and go forward from there - it’s very easy to click on a 
duplicate transaction and mark it as reconciled, or to miss digit 
transpositions and other typing errors.

Best of luck!

Michael



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Re: [GNC] Reconciling different periods?

2018-12-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone
What do you mean by, "My reconcile is a bit erratic.”?

You can re-reconcile a period if needed.

There is also a reconciliation report and you can view a register with a filter 
to only show reconciled or non-reconciled transactions. You can also do a 
‘find’ which gives you more options for the ‘reconcile' field flag.

I’m not clear on what dates and amounts you want to use. If you want to 
re-reconcile say, July 2018, then enter the date of 7/31/18 (or whatever your 
locale should read) and the amount as the closing amount on your statement. If 
that period has already been reconciled and balanced you will see all 
transactions on both debit and credit side checked off and the balance at the 
bottom as zero. If the balance is not zero, and/or there are transactions not 
checked off, then the reconciliation is not yet complete. (or has been 
unbalanced by adding transactions in that period after the original 
reconciliation)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Finbar Mahon  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My reconcile is a bit erratic. So, I thought of trying to find the error by 
> reconciling for different periods. If I put in the date for the last 
> statement for the period I want to check, can I just put in an amount as the 
> ending balance that coincides with the starting period and that way check on 
> a period by period basis?
> 
> I know it sounds complicated but I cannot think of a better way of doing it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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[GNC] Reconciling different periods?

2018-12-11 Thread Finbar Mahon

Hi,

My reconcile is a bit erratic. So, I thought of trying to find the error 
by reconciling for different periods. If I put in the date for the last 
statement for the period I want to check, can I just put in an amount as 
the ending balance that coincides with the starting period and that way 
check on a period by period basis?


I know it sounds complicated but I cannot think of a better way of doing it.

Thanks

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Re: [GNC] How to Reclassify Invoice Amounts

2018-12-11 Thread tbalaban
Thanks for the suggestion Dererk but rounding makes me think this won't work. 
I'm OK with the oproicess I'm now using, adjusting the amount received and
the PayPal fee in the PayPal account after the payment has been posted to
the A/R account.



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