Re: [GNC] Transactions association to accounts (automatically)

[Greg Feneis]

I'll wager there is documentation on how to import transactions, and use
the matcher dialog.  Then, perhaps you can apply this info to your specific
use case.

It seems like you do a lot of manual processing of the data prior to
import.  This may be defying the ability and intention of the matcher
dialog.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 10:10 Stelvio Rosset  wrote:

> Hi, many thanks for so much help and inputs.
>
> Actually in the CSV import I was setting the column "ACCOUNT TRANSFER" and
> "WITHDRAWAL", and then GNUCASH was asking also the ACCOUNT in mandatory
> way.
> This is way I was specifying UNBALANCE and then doing the account change
> later on.
>
> Probably that was the mistake, I guess I should instead import the sourcing
> account as ACCOUNT and not as  WITHDRAWAL but as DEPOSIT, specifying the
> number in POSITIVE and not as NEGATIVE.
>
> Sounds correct?
>
> I will make further tests of import, and dedicating time to read better the
> manual / instruction.
>
> Thanks again
> Stelvio
>
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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[Les]

I have noticed in the 3.8 version, that the description field is quite 
large, while the amounts fields are small.  I used to know how to expand 
them but that was a long time ago.  Would some let me know how to?


Thanks,

Les

On 3/2/20 3:24 PM, David Cousens wrote:

Les

You will need to maintain separate data files(e.g. give them separate names
identifying the version they run with) for each version as there were some
data file changes going from 2.6.x to 3.x which prevent a 3.x file working
with a 2.6.x version. I think Geert mentioned them in a post in the last
week or so.

Both versions will also store their configuration files in different
locations in your home directory see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations. This is possibly a
bonus but changes to things like saved reports in one won't of course carry
through to the other.

You should be able to run instances of both at the same time if you want to.
Just label the launchers in your menu system clearly with the version number
as well.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[Les]

Thanks David.

I made a different account file for the 3.8 version naming it 3.8.  I 
kept the original account file with the same description.


My goal is to run both, one at a time, for about a week to verify the 
totals for each major account remain the same.  Assuming that there are 
no major problems, I will stop using the 2.6 version.


Les

On 3/2/20 3:24 PM, David Cousens wrote:

Les

You will need to maintain separate data files(e.g. give them separate names
identifying the version they run with) for each version as there were some
data file changes going from 2.6.x to 3.x which prevent a 3.x file working
with a 2.6.x version. I think Geert mentioned them in a post in the last
week or so.

Both versions will also store their configuration files in different
locations in your home directory see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations. This is possibly a
bonus but changes to things like saved reports in one won't of course carry
through to the other.

You should be able to run instances of both at the same time if you want to.
Just label the launchers in your menu system clearly with the version number
as well.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

[David H]

Maf,

I'm using the gmail web interface if I open your email and click the
dropdown triangle next to you details this is what I see - note the via
gnucash :-)

from:Maf. King  via
 gnucash.org to:
gnucash-user@gnucash.org

I think from the snippet included in Adrian's email the guy has subscribed
to both the gnucash  mailing list and the Nabble archive hence the mention
of nabble.com in it.

My feeling is that he wants to unsubscribe from the actual gnucash mailing
list (mailman) and just remain subscribed to Nabble ???

Cheers David.


On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 07:21, Maf. King  wrote:

> On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:09:37 GMT Alan wrote:
>
> >
> > yet I'm still receiving hundreds of dupe
> > messages with [via GnuCash]appended to each user name. You had that info
> > two months ago.
>
> I don't see [via Gnucash] (or anything similar) routinely appended to
> messages
> from the list.
>
> I respectfully suggest that the list server is working as intended, the
> dupes
> are arising because of something specific to your set up.
>
> I'm not a dev or involved with the project in any way.  I'm just a user. I
> did
> not cc this to you directly, it is sent only to the list.
>
> Maf.
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[David Cousens]

Les 

You will need to maintain separate data files(e.g. give them separate names
identifying the version they run with) for each version as there were some
data file changes going from 2.6.x to 3.x which prevent a 3.x file working
with a 2.6.x version. I think Geert mentioned them in a post in the last
week or so. 

Both versions will also store their configuration files in different
locations in your home directory see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations. This is possibly a
bonus but changes to things like saved reports in one won't of course carry
through to the other.

You should be able to run instances of both at the same time if you want to.
Just label the launchers in your menu system clearly with the version number
as well.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

[Maf. King]

On Monday, 2 March 2020 20:09:37 GMT Alan wrote:

> 
> yet I'm still receiving hundreds of dupe
> messages with [via GnuCash]appended to each user name. You had that info
> two months ago.

I don't see [via Gnucash] (or anything similar) routinely appended to messages 
from the list.

I respectfully suggest that the list server is working as intended, the dupes 
are arising because of something specific to your set up.

I'm not a dev or involved with the project in any way.  I'm just a user. I did 
not cc this to you directly, it is sent only to the list.

Maf.
 



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Re: [GNC] How to install Gnucash 3.8 on Debian 10 "buster"?

[Colin Law]

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 17:51, Peter Zimmerer  wrote:
>
> The changes in Gnucash from version 3.7 to 3.8 and beyond are mainly
> covering changes because of regulatory changes of the European Union
> (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive), which
> is neither bug fixing nor new feature developement to me.

If it changes the way the s/w operates then that is a feature changed.
Some feature will be different after the update, therefore it is a
feature change.

>
> I would vote for GnuCash 3.8 or better the upcoming 3.9 version to be
> integrated into one of the next point releases of Debian Buster (10.4 or
> 10.5). Without that, the GnuCash version within the current Debian
> stable release will be largely useless for online banking within the
> European Union.

There is no point voting for it here.  The version packaged in Debian
is down to the Debian administrators and whoever packages it for
Debian.  But I can guarantee that you will not get the principles of
the Debian release policy changed just for Gnucash.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

[Adrien Monteleone]

Alan,

I’m just a user like you who participates on the list. Sometimes I ask 
questions for assistance, sometimes I offer to help others. I’m not a developer 
of GnuCash, and I don’t run this mailing list. While there are developers 
participating in this list, (and the list moderator) it exists precisely for 
users to help each other. It is not a ’support’ forum like you might expect 
with some large corporation.

It isn’t my software. The software that facilitates the list is called Mailman. 
It is open source.

Since you’ve finally provided an actual error message, I’d say the first 
problem is you sent a reply to Nabble which they don’t allow.

GnuCash has nothing to do with Nabble.

Nabble is a 3rd party that has taken it upon themselves to offer a web-forum 
like interface to the GnuCash mailing list. (among other such lists)

If there are issues with Nabble, then you should take it up with them.

If you would rather use an e-mail client with the list directly, without 
Nabble, then unsubscribe from Nabble or else change your Nabble preferences to 
not receive mail from them. (if such a preference exists) I’d suspect the 
duplicate issue will disappear.

There is no ‘feed’ of the archive, at least not from Mailman. Messages are sent 
out directly one at a time as they pass through the server (just like regular 
e-mail) or they are sent packaged up in a digest form either once or so per 
day, depending on message count and size. Maybe you subscribed to receive some 
sort of ‘feed’ of the archive via Nabble?

Finally, I have no idea what you mean by ‘changing the subject.’ I haven’t done 
any such thing. I have tried to help you figure out what is causing the problem 
so YOU can solve it. There is nothing *I* can do other than offer suggestions. 
(as I said, I don’t run this list, and I’d bet even the individual who does 
couldn’t do much, as it isn’t the list software likely causing the problem)

Other people use this list directly with no duplication issues.

Others use Nabble with no duplication issues.

You’re apparently trying to use both, and as the GnuCash wiki page about this 
list recommends, that is probably not a good idea.

-

Finally, please do not e-mail list users directly unless specifically requested 
to do so. All discussions should stay on the list for the benefit of everyone.

I’ve sent this reply to the list only.



Regards,
Adrien


> On Mar 2, 2020 w10d62, at 2:21 PM, Alan  wrote:
> 
> (Not cc'd to the list)
> 
> Adrien,
> 
> What do you mean "what do you mean?" This came right from your own mailing 
> list
> software:
> 
> "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> 
>ml+s1415818n4715088...@n4.nabble.com
> 
> You can't post by email to a mailing list archive."
> --
> 
> Got it now? The dupe messages also match the formatting used in the web 
> archive
> of this list. What a coincidence.
> 
> I asked you two months ago how to drop the MAILING LIST ARCHIVE message feed.
> All you've done is refuse to respond to the original question I asked and try 
> to
> change the subject.
> 
> Please stop the dupe messages from your archive list feed. Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[Colin Law]

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 18:27, Les  wrote:
>
> Hi Colin:
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> It appears that they do indeed update together.

In that case both apps are accessing the same file.

Colin

>
> Les
>
>
> On 3/2/20 10:02 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> > If you update using one version does it update automatically in the
> > other?  If so then they are the same file, but accessed via different
> > routes on the file system.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 15:56, Les  wrote:
> >> Yes, I mean the account file.  I now have two seperate account files
> >> (2.6.19) and (3.8). However, since I am not knowledgeable in Linux file
> >> structure, I have decided that I will only open one file at a time.
> >> Once I am convinced that both are maintaining the same account balances,
> >> I will drop the 2.6.19 version.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> On 3/2/20 9:35 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 23:05, Les  wrote:
>  I have just installed GC 3.8 via Flatpak and used my 2.6 version to
>  start it but saved the file to a different location.
> >>> What file?  If you mean an accounts file it should save to wherever
> >>> you tell it to save, and if you open a file using File > Open then it
> >>> should save it back to that location.
> >>>
> >>> Colin
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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

[Derek Atkins]

Alan,

Have you by chance subscribed to notifications via Nabble or GMANE or some
other third-part forum-like resender of GnuCash list emails, as well as
subscribed to the mailman list at lists.gnucash.org?

I only ask because I am looking at the mail server logs on the gnucash
server and I do not see multiple messages to you.

I asked you this before, but you never responded:  Can you please forward
me the full message headers from one pair of duplicate messages?

Thanks,

-derek

On Mon, March 2, 2020 3:09 pm, Alan wrote:
> Adrien,
>
> I originally set the "avoid duplicate copies of messages" to "yes." It
> hasn't
> changed. It's still set to "yes."
>
> And please stop drifting from the original message thread subject. This is
> consistent dupes for EVERY message posted to this list. Direct messages
> (cc'd to
> me directly) are not dupes for this discussion.
>
> The " Your other gnucash.org subscriptions" option shows that I am only
> subscribed to "gnucash-user," yet I'm still receiving hundreds of dupe
> messages
> with [via GnuCash]appended to each user name. You had that info two months
> ago.
>
> Those dupes are coming from the mailing list that YOU guys created.
> Responding
> to ANY of those messages results in a bounce rejection message from the
> list.
> Replying-all results in a bounce message and my original message addressed
> back
> to me. I'm really puzzled why you set up a "ghost" mailing list that
> mirrors the
> active list, with MIME enabled (my "real" list subscription is plain
> text).
>
> The "real" list messages (plain text) contain other list subscribers'
> email
> addresses, and my email address is included within the message author's
> displayed email address (can't print any message on paper without my email
> address showing up associated with the author).
>
> The dupe messages you are sending me have all the email addresses hidden
> ("hidden email"). Even the list email address, itself, is hidden. Clicking
> on
> any of those links results in an security warning from Outlook, then a
> "system
> cannot find the file specified" error and goes no further.
>
> Your archive messages also include a URL with the title "If you reply to
> this
> email, your message will be added to the discussion below:"
>
> That URL brings up a web page version of the message, also with email
> addresses
> hidden.
>
> The "real" list messages don't have those lines.
>
> Your archive messages also include a link titled " To start a new topic
> under
> GnuCash - User, email." URL brings up a new message window with the same
> undeliverable email address as shown in the "from" field of the message
> from
> your list.
>
> Your archive message version of this list will not accept replies, and
> prevents
> the recipient from participating in any discussion. So why are YOU sending
> them?
> Why are you operating a mailing list that permits subscription without
> membership (which requires list moderator intervention), prompts the
> message
> recipient to post to the list, and then prohibits the recipient of the
> list
> messages from participating??? Fix it or shut it down.
>
> Is that clear enough for you? You've had over two months to figure this
> out. Now
> stop filling up my inbox with dupes.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+alangnuc=bigtowers@gnucash.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Adrien Monteleone
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:51 PM
> To: GnuCash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list
>
> Log on to your GnuCash mailman account and change your preferences. There
> is an
> option to only receive one copy if you are also in the To: or CC: fields.
> Mailman can't stop the independently sent copies, but it won't send you
> one from
> itself in that case.
>
> I've been busy all weekend and yesterday and between both the User and Dev
> lists
> I think I had 22 messages unread. So you certainly should not be seeing
> hundreds. At worst, I'd expect double without that preference fixed.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Jan 21, 2020 w4d21, at 10:03 AM, Alan  wrote:
>>
>> Hey, is anyone making any progress with this? Getting hundreds of dupe
>> messages from this list, filling up my inbox.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 11:38 PM
>> To: 'gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org' 
>> Subject: Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Having some difficulty with my subscription. Looks like I subscribed
>> to the list before I became a registered member. I'm getting an
>> "original" mailing list message, and a copy that reads "[via GnuCash]"
>> next to the author's name. Is there a way to unsubscribe from the [via
>> GnuCash] list without unsubscribing completely from the list? Thanks.
>
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Re: [GNC] New User - Unique Transaction Number & Dates

[Stan Brown]

David, you may be thinking of File » Properties » Accounts » Day
Threshold for Read-Only Transactions (red-line).

I'm not sure why the developers thought it would be a good idea to do
this as a number of days in the past instead of a date in the past, but
they did. It means that if you want, say, to prevent yourself from
accidentally changing something in last year's transactions, or
accidentally entering a new transaction with last year's date, you have
to change the red-line every single day that you use GnuCash.

-- 
Regards,
Stan Brown
Tompkins County, New York, USA
https://BrownMath.com
http://OakRoadSystems.com

On 2020-03-02 10:32, David Carlson wrote:
> I seem to recall there being a setting for a warning if entering a
> transaction date before some value, but now I cannot find it.  Perhaps
> another user can help with that.
> 
> David Carlson
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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

[Alan]

Adrien,

I originally set the "avoid duplicate copies of messages" to "yes." It hasn't
changed. It's still set to "yes."

And please stop drifting from the original message thread subject. This is
consistent dupes for EVERY message posted to this list. Direct messages (cc'd to
me directly) are not dupes for this discussion.

The "   Your other gnucash.org subscriptions" option shows that I am only
subscribed to "gnucash-user," yet I'm still receiving hundreds of dupe messages
with [via GnuCash]appended to each user name. You had that info two months ago.

Those dupes are coming from the mailing list that YOU guys created. Responding
to ANY of those messages results in a bounce rejection message from the list.
Replying-all results in a bounce message and my original message addressed back
to me. I'm really puzzled why you set up a "ghost" mailing list that mirrors the
active list, with MIME enabled (my "real" list subscription is plain text).

The "real" list messages (plain text) contain other list subscribers' email
addresses, and my email address is included within the message author's
displayed email address (can't print any message on paper without my email
address showing up associated with the author).

The dupe messages you are sending me have all the email addresses hidden
("hidden email"). Even the list email address, itself, is hidden. Clicking on
any of those links results in an security warning from Outlook, then a "system
cannot find the file specified" error and goes no further.

Your archive messages also include a URL with the title "If you reply to this
email, your message will be added to the discussion below:"

That URL brings up a web page version of the message, also with email addresses
hidden.

The "real" list messages don't have those lines.

Your archive messages also include a link titled " To start a new topic under
GnuCash - User, email." URL brings up a new message window with the same
undeliverable email address as shown in the "from" field of the message from
your list.

Your archive message version of this list will not accept replies, and prevents
the recipient from participating in any discussion. So why are YOU sending them?
Why are you operating a mailing list that permits subscription without
membership (which requires list moderator intervention), prompts the message
recipient to post to the list, and then prohibits the recipient of the list
messages from participating??? Fix it or shut it down.

Is that clear enough for you? You've had over two months to figure this out. Now
stop filling up my inbox with dupes.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+alangnuc=bigtowers@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
Adrien Monteleone
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:51 PM
To: GnuCash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

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Mailman can't stop the independently sent copies, but it won't send you one from
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I've been busy all weekend and yesterday and between both the User and Dev lists
I think I had 22 messages unread. So you certainly should not be seeing
hundreds. At worst, I'd expect double without that preference fixed.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jan 21, 2020 w4d21, at 10:03 AM, Alan  wrote:
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> Hey, is anyone making any progress with this? Getting hundreds of dupe 
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> Having some difficulty with my subscription. Looks like I subscribed 
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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[Les]

Hi Colin:

Thanks for your input.

It appears that they do indeed update together.

Les


On 3/2/20 10:02 AM, Colin Law wrote:

If you update using one version does it update automatically in the
other?  If so then they are the same file, but accessed via different
routes on the file system.

Colin

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 15:56, Les  wrote:

Yes, I mean the account file.  I now have two seperate account files
(2.6.19) and (3.8). However, since I am not knowledgeable in Linux file
structure, I have decided that I will only open one file at a time.
Once I am convinced that both are maintaining the same account balances,
I will drop the 2.6.19 version.

Thanks,

On 3/2/20 9:35 AM, Colin Law wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 23:05, Les  wrote:

I have just installed GC 3.8 via Flatpak and used my 2.6 version to
start it but saved the file to a different location.

What file?  If you mean an accounts file it should save to wherever
you tell it to save, and if you open a file using File > Open then it
should save it back to that location.

Colin

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Re: [GNC] Transactions association to accounts (automatically)

[Stelvio Rosset]

Hi, many thanks for so much help and inputs.

Actually in the CSV import I was setting the column "ACCOUNT TRANSFER" and
"WITHDRAWAL", and then GNUCASH was asking also the ACCOUNT in mandatory way.
This is way I was specifying UNBALANCE and then doing the account change
later on.

Probably that was the mistake, I guess I should instead import the sourcing
account as ACCOUNT and not as  WITHDRAWAL but as DEPOSIT, specifying the
number in POSITIVE and not as NEGATIVE.

Sounds correct?

I will make further tests of import, and dedicating time to read better the
manual / instruction.

Thanks again
Stelvio



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Re: [GNC] How to install Gnucash 3.8 on Debian 10 "buster"?

[Peter Zimmerer]

In my opinion one has to distinguish between
- pure bug fixes,
- legal changes, and
- new features.

The changes in Gnucash from version 3.7 to 3.8 and beyond are mainly
covering changes because of regulatory changes of the European Union
(e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive), which
is neither bug fixing nor new feature developement to me.

I would vote for GnuCash 3.8 or better the upcoming 3.9 version to be
integrated into one of the next point releases of Debian Buster (10.4 or
10.5). Without that, the GnuCash version within the current Debian
stable release will be largely useless for online banking within the
European Union.

I'm running Debian Buster too and I have currently
- uninstalled Gnucash and the related Gwenhywfar and AqBanking packages
- cloned the current versions from the respective Git repositories,
- and have built and installed them into /usr/local.
This works to my satisfaction.

The attached (text)script might give you a good starting point, but it
makes no claim to completeness.

Regards,
Peter

Am 02.03.20 um 16:59 schrieb Colin Law:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 15:51, km22  wrote:
>> P.S. I believe this is the bug in 3.4:
>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797046
>>
>> It is too bad there isn't a way for Debian's stable release to get bug
>> fixes so that the stable version in the repo remains the most reliable
>> version.  Seems the current model means that users are stuck with
>> whichever version is baked into the stable repo - warts and all.
> If Gnucash did bugfix releases which were purely bug fixes and did not
> change features then those could be incorporated into the Debian
> release.  So for example after 3.8 if there were 3.8.1 which just
> fixed bugs then that would be ok.  The rule is that users must be able
> to upgrade to the latest version in the repo without risk of finding
> that the the software has changed under their feet.  However, to do
> bugfix releases is a lot of work for the developers as they then have
> to maintain two versions of the code and they have more important
> things to do.
> 
> Colin
> 
sudo apt-get install build-essential git libtool pkg-config


Gwenhywfar:
==

sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libgcrypt20-dev libgnutls28-dev libgtk-3-dev
mkdir -p ~/git
cd ~/git
git clone https://git.aquamaniac.de/git/gwenhywfar
cd gwenhywfar
make -f Makefile.cvs
./configure --with-guis=gtk3
make
make check
sudo make install


Aqbanking:
=

sudo apt-get install libxmlsec1-dev
cd ~/git
git clone https://git.aquamaniac.de/git/aqbanking
cd aqbanking
make -f Makefile.cvs
./configure
make typedefs && make types
make
make check
sudo make install


Gnucash:
===

sudo apt install cmake swig libglib2.0-dev libgcrypt20-dev libgnutls28-dev 
libgtk-3-dev libssl-dev libxmlsec1-dev libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev gettext 
guile-2.2-dev libofx-dev libxslt1-dev xsltproc libboost-date-time1.67-dev 
libboost-filesystem1.67-dev libboost-locale1.67-dev libboost-regex1.67-dev 
libboost-system1.67-dev libdbi-dev libdbd-pgsql libdbd-sqlite3 libsecret-1-dev 
libgtest-dev libgmock-dev
cd ~/git
git clone https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git
mkdir -p ~/build/gnucash
cd ~/build/gnucash
cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debug -G"Eclipse CDT4 - Ninja" 
-DCMAKE_ECLIPSE_GENERATE_SOURCE_PROJECT=TRUE -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local 
~/git/gnucash
ninja
ninja check
sudo ninja install


Eclipse
===

sudo apt install cmake-gui gdb openjdk-11-jre-headless ninja-build

cd /opt
sudo tar -xvf ~/Downloads/eclipse-cpp-2019-12-R-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz

cat << ===EOF=== | sudo dd of=/usr/local/share/applications/eclipse.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=2019-12
Name=Eclipse
Comment=Eclipse is an IDE
Exec=/opt/eclipse/eclipse
Path=/opt/eclipse
Icon=/opt/eclipse/icon.xpm
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Utility;Application;Development;
===EOF===



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Re: [GNC] Report Income & Expense (Graph)

[Adrien Monteleone]

Not within GnuCash at this time.

You could run a Multicolumn Income Statement (P&L) report (in the experimental 
menu), export or copy/paste to a spreadsheet, insert formulas for the 
accumulation, then create a graph on the result.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 1, 2020 w10d61, at 11:37 AM, Stelvio Rosset  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, question on the Income & Expense Graph Report.
> 
> Along the period selected, the report is able to show punctual value of the
> expenses level, income, and eventually the punctual net value.
> 
> There is any setting allowing to show also the cumulative net value created
> in the period?
> 
> Punctual net (example monthly) could be up or down along a period of time,
> but it would be nice to see at a glance if the cumulative result is going to
> the positive or negative side.


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Re: [GNC] Fastest ways to enter my transactions into GnuCash ?

[Adrien Monteleone]

Yes, that’s what I meant. And I have tried changing the separator, and 
eventually changed it back but don’t recall why.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 1, 2020 w10d61, at 6:19 AM, Maf. King  wrote:
> 
> Adrian meant that sometimes he gets ; by mistake  - then the quick selection 
> goes all wrong.
> 
> there is a preference to set the separator.
> 


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Re: [GNC] Is it Possible to move the blank transaction to the TOP ?

[Adrien Monteleone]

This does not appear to be an option. You can file an enhancement request on 
Bugzilla.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 29, 2020 w9d60, at 1:43 PM, Long  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I really like to enter my transactions from the TOP of Register Tab, And
> check my history transactions from new to old (Top to Bottom). Look like i
> can setup to view from top to bottom. But i can't move the Blank field to
> the TOP. If it's possible, can you guide me ?
> 
> Thank you.
> Regards.


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Re: [GNC] show previous years totals on account page?

[Adrien Monteleone]

No, but you can run the multicolumn Income Statement, from the Reports > 
Experimental menu.

Select a range of several years in Options > General and also set Period 
duration to ‘Year’

That will get you the desired previous years at least for the income and 
expense accounts.

For your asset and liability accounts do the same with a multicolumn Balance 
Sheet. (also in the experimental menu) You might want to set your start date on 
this to the end of the first year desired.

Reports can be kept open at all times, you don’t have to close them.



> On Feb 29, 2020 w9d60, at 12:21 PM, ihf  wrote:
> 
> The account page shows the total for the CY and you can select the total for
> all time; however, is there a way to add columns for several previous year's
> totals?

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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[Colin Law]

If you update using one version does it update automatically in the
other?  If so then they are the same file, but accessed via different
routes on the file system.

Colin

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 15:56, Les  wrote:
>
> Yes, I mean the account file.  I now have two seperate account files
> (2.6.19) and (3.8). However, since I am not knowledgeable in Linux file
> structure, I have decided that I will only open one file at a time.
> Once I am convinced that both are maintaining the same account balances,
> I will drop the 2.6.19 version.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On 3/2/20 9:35 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> > On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 23:05, Les  wrote:
> >> I have just installed GC 3.8 via Flatpak and used my 2.6 version to
> >> start it but saved the file to a different location.
> > What file?  If you mean an accounts file it should save to wherever
> > you tell it to save, and if you open a file using File > Open then it
> > should save it back to that location.
> >
> > Colin
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Re: [GNC] How to install Gnucash 3.8 on Debian 10 "buster"?

[Colin Law]

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 15:51, km22  wrote:
>
> P.S. I believe this is the bug in 3.4:
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797046
>
> It is too bad there isn't a way for Debian's stable release to get bug
> fixes so that the stable version in the repo remains the most reliable
> version.  Seems the current model means that users are stuck with
> whichever version is baked into the stable repo - warts and all.

If Gnucash did bugfix releases which were purely bug fixes and did not
change features then those could be incorporated into the Debian
release.  So for example after 3.8 if there were 3.8.1 which just
fixed bugs then that would be ok.  The rule is that users must be able
to upgrade to the latest version in the repo without risk of finding
that the the software has changed under their feet.  However, to do
bugfix releases is a lot of work for the developers as they then have
to maintain two versions of the code and they have more important
things to do.

Colin

>
>
> On 2/3/2020 11:29 pm, km22 wrote:
> > Hi Andrea,
> >
> > Thanks for the message.  Do you know whether there is a simple command
> > line operation I can run to install Gnucash 3.8 from Debian 10 testing
> > repo?
> >
> > I tried to google the solution but what I found seemed to suggest a
> > lot of modifications to the sources file or introducing a pinning
> > concept.  I only want to install this one package (and the necessary
> > dependencies) from testing, ideally without messing with the /etc/ files.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/3/2020 2:08 am, Andrea Borgia wrote:
> >> Il 01/03/20 16:39, km22 ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> I recently moved from Windows 7 (due to end of life) to Debian 10.  I
> >>> have gnucash 3.4 installed from the standard repo.  However I think
> >>> this
> >>> version contains a bug as I cannot see any of the historical FX
> >>> prices I
> >>> stored in the Price Database. I think I need to move to a more recent
> >>> version.  I saw this wiki article: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian
> >>> but no clues there on how to install the latest version 3.8. Can anyone
> >>> here advise?
> >>
> >> Hi, Ken.
> >>
> >> If you're comfortable with using the "testing" distribution, then GC
> >> 3.8 is already included, I am using it now.
> >>
> >> If you prefer to continue using the "stable" distribution of Debian,
> >> then you could try the "flatpak" version of GC, available here:
> >> https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash
> >>
> >> How to use Flatpak on Debian:
> >> https://flatpak.org/setup/Debian/
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Andrea.
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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[Les]

Yes, I mean the account file.  I now have two seperate account files 
(2.6.19) and (3.8). However, since I am not knowledgeable in Linux file 
structure, I have decided that I will only open one file at a time.  
Once I am convinced that both are maintaining the same account balances, 
I will drop the 2.6.19 version.


Thanks,

On 3/2/20 9:35 AM, Colin Law wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 23:05, Les  wrote:

I have just installed GC 3.8 via Flatpak and used my 2.6 version to
start it but saved the file to a different location.

What file?  If you mean an accounts file it should save to wherever
you tell it to save, and if you open a file using File > Open then it
should save it back to that location.

Colin

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Re: [GNC] How to install Gnucash 3.8 on Debian 10 "buster"?

[km22]

P.S. I believe this is the bug in 3.4:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797046

It is too bad there isn't a way for Debian's stable release to get bug
fixes so that the stable version in the repo remains the most reliable
version.  Seems the current model means that users are stuck with
whichever version is baked into the stable repo - warts and all.


On 2/3/2020 11:29 pm, km22 wrote:

Hi Andrea,

Thanks for the message.  Do you know whether there is a simple command
line operation I can run to install Gnucash 3.8 from Debian 10 testing
repo?

I tried to google the solution but what I found seemed to suggest a
lot of modifications to the sources file or introducing a pinning
concept.  I only want to install this one package (and the necessary
dependencies) from testing, ideally without messing with the /etc/ files.

Thanks,
Ken



On 2/3/2020 2:08 am, Andrea Borgia wrote:

Il 01/03/20 16:39, km22 ha scritto:


I recently moved from Windows 7 (due to end of life) to Debian 10.  I
have gnucash 3.4 installed from the standard repo.  However I think
this
version contains a bug as I cannot see any of the historical FX
prices I
stored in the Price Database. I think I need to move to a more recent
version.  I saw this wiki article: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian
but no clues there on how to install the latest version 3.8. Can anyone
here advise?


Hi, Ken.

If you're comfortable with using the "testing" distribution, then GC
3.8 is already included, I am using it now.

If you prefer to continue using the "stable" distribution of Debian,
then you could try the "flatpak" version of GC, available here:
https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash

How to use Flatpak on Debian:
https://flatpak.org/setup/Debian/


Regards,
Andrea.

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Re: [GNC] GC 2.6.19 & GC 3.8

[Colin Law]

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 23:05, Les  wrote:
>
> I have just installed GC 3.8 via Flatpak and used my 2.6 version to
> start it but saved the file to a different location.

What file?  If you mean an accounts file it should save to wherever
you tell it to save, and if you open a file using File > Open then it
should save it back to that location.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] New User - Unique Transaction Number & Dates

[David Carlson]

You can use Tools > General Ledger to see all transactions in one place.
You will have to change View > Filter by... to Select Range > Earliest to
see more than the last 30 days or so.  Use Filter > Sort By  > Number to
check the last number used. You can check Save Filter if you want GnuCash
to remember your choice.

There is nothing to put a hard limit to the date range of a new
transaction.  There are tricks such as using the Reconcile feature and
entering periodic transactions noting, say,  balance as of a date to make
errors easier to spot.

I seem to recall there being a setting for a warning if entering a
transaction date before some value, but now I cannot find it.  Perhaps
another user can help with that.

David Carlson

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:28 AM Christopher Lam 
wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 09:20, Mardem via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello guys,
> > The first thing that I noticed is that I cant have a unique number for
> each
> > transaction (that I will write on the hard copy i.e. invoice). This is
> very
> > strange to me being an accountant for 7 years now.
>
> I also need to remember where I  have added my last transaction number in
> > order to continue from there since every time I click a new account I can
> > see the transactions related to that account.
> > How you guys tackle this problem?
> >
>
> You mean the Num field? You *can* have a counter: in the register, after
> setting the date, press TAB to reach the Num field, and press + (or =) to
> set Num to the next number.
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Re: [GNC] How to install Gnucash 3.8 on Debian 10 "buster"?

[km22]

Hi Andrea,

Thanks for the message.  Do you know whether there is a simple command
line operation I can run to install Gnucash 3.8 from Debian 10 testing repo?

I tried to google the solution but what I found seemed to suggest a lot
of modifications to the sources file or introducing a pinning concept. 
I only want to install this one package (and the necessary dependencies)
from testing, ideally without messing with the /etc/ files.

Thanks,
Ken



On 2/3/2020 2:08 am, Andrea Borgia wrote:

Il 01/03/20 16:39, km22 ha scritto:


I recently moved from Windows 7 (due to end of life) to Debian 10.  I
have gnucash 3.4 installed from the standard repo.  However I think this
version contains a bug as I cannot see any of the historical FX prices I
stored in the Price Database. I think I need to move to a more recent
version.  I saw this wiki article: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian
but no clues there on how to install the latest version 3.8. Can anyone
here advise?


Hi, Ken.

If you're comfortable with using the "testing" distribution, then GC
3.8 is already included, I am using it now.

If you prefer to continue using the "stable" distribution of Debian,
then you could try the "flatpak" version of GC, available here:
https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash

How to use Flatpak on Debian:
https://flatpak.org/setup/Debian/


Regards,
Andrea.

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Re: [GNC] New User - Unique Transaction Number & Dates

[Christopher Lam]

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 09:20, Mardem via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Hello guys,
> The first thing that I noticed is that I cant have a unique number for each
> transaction (that I will write on the hard copy i.e. invoice). This is very
> strange to me being an accountant for 7 years now.

I also need to remember where I  have added my last transaction number in
> order to continue from there since every time I click a new account I can
> see the transactions related to that account.
> How you guys tackle this problem?
>

You mean the Num field? You *can* have a counter: in the register, after
setting the date, press TAB to reach the Num field, and press + (or =) to
set Num to the next number.
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[GNC] New User - Unique Transaction Number & Dates

[Mardem via gnucash-user]

Hello guys,

I have decided to give GnuCash a try for a small business that just started
to do the accounting (less than 20 transactions the 1st year).

The first thing that I noticed is that I cant have a unique number for each
transaction (that I will write on the hard copy i.e. invoice). This is very
strange to me being an accountant for 7 years now.

I also need to remember where I  have added my last transaction number in
order to continue from there since every time I click a new account I can
see the transactions related to that account.

How you guys tackle this problem? 

Does the software have a place where I can see all the transactions I have
entered from number 1 to the last?

Another thing I noticed is that the software accepts any date (i.e. 2019,
2018). I have chosen in the preference that my accounting year is 01/01/2019
- 31/12/2019 but then I have added a transaction in 2018 without any problem
and then I couldn't see it in the Trial Balance. Is there a way to get a
pop-up to warn me when I add a transaction in a different year?

Overall the software provides some great features for free, but the unique
number per transaction its a big problem for me.

I would like to see how you deal with this problem.

Thank you,
Marinos






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Re: [GNC] Investment Portfolio Reporting

[Mike Alexander]

On 1 Mar 2020, at 11:51, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote:

I need some reports which show the performance of various investment 
accounts over the past year.  I don't find anything suitable in GC 
2.6.19 and don't have the chops (neither in accounting nor in guile) 
to write my own.  Surely I am not the first GC user with this need.  
The only thing I found which looks useful is gnucash-portfolio:


Have you tried the Advanced Portfolio report?  I think it works pretty 
well in 2.6.19.  Depending on what you want it might do the trick.


   Mike
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Re: [GNC] NEW USER: SETTING UP GNUCASH TO WORK WITH MY BANK UNDER THE UK OPEN BANKING INITIATIVE

[Martin Parker]

Hi Christopher,

Shame! Many thanks for your assistance.

Regards,

Martin

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 07:11, Christopher Lam 
wrote:

> Not currently possible I'm afraid.
>
> The open banking initiative has strict requirements upon the data
> controller (ie FinTech apps) to have safeguards, and gnucash being open
> source will never be able to satisfy the encryption and authentication
> requirements to receive a licence to access the data.
>
> C
>
> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, 5:07 am Martin Parker, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Recently retired, I live in the UK and would like to use GNUCash to help
>> with income, expenditure and budgeting at a personal level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Before committing to using GnuCash on a regular basis, I would like to
>> know
>> whether it can be used under the UK Open Banking Initiative to link to on
>> a
>> regular and automatic basis (once set up) to download transactions from my
>> current (checking) account and savings account. I bank with The Nationwide
>> Building Society (https://www.nationwide.co.uk/).
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you please advise me whether GnuCash can be used with my bank and also
>> how I can setup an automatic link between GnuCash and Nationwide within
>> the
>> program.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks for any assistance which fellow users can give me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin Parker
>> *Martin Parker*
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Re: [GNC] Investment Portfolio Reporting

[rsbrux via gnucash-user]

The Assets Bar Chart is indeed close to what I need, but it doesn't 
account for transfers into and out of the accounts in question.


I am still on Ubunto Studio 18.04 LTS.  Is there an easy way to get GC 
3.x on this platform?  If not which Version do I need to get GC 3.x from 
the official Ubuntu repository?


Otherwise, I will give gnucash-portfolio a try.  I don't think I am 
competent to figure out how to do what I need in Excel.


Thanks for your help!

On 02.03.20 00:12, David Carlson wrote:
You won't get much out of GnuCash unless you had it collecting 
security prices at the appropriate times to use in your desired 
reports.  If you did, try the assets over time reports.  There may be 
some better reports in the 3.x family of releases.


Otherwise, third party software or spreadsheets or a combination will 
work better.


David Carlson


On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 10:53 AM rsbrux via gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:


I need some reports which show the performance of various investment
accounts over the past year.  I don't find anything suitable in GC
2.6.19 and don't have the chops (neither in accounting nor in
guile) to
write my own.  Surely I am not the first GC user with this need.  The
only thing I found which looks useful is gnucash-portfolio:

http://portfolio.alensiljak.tk/

https://github.com/MisterY/gnucash-portfolio

However, as ignorant as I am about Python, I am not even sure how to
install it.  Furthermore, it appears to require the GC DB stored in
SQLite, whereas mine is still in (compressed) XML.

Does anyone have experience with gnucash-portfolio?

What other approach could I use?

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Re: [GNC] Investment Portfolio Reporting

[rsbrux via gnucash-user]

I have indeed tried the Advanced Portfolio report, but have a few 
problems with it:


1. It gives performance per currently owned security, but I am looking
   for overall performance of each securities account, including cash
   positions and securities which have been sold. In particular, I
   would like to compare the performance of self-managed accounts with
   those managed by banks.
2. The indicated return figures are presuably for the duration of
   ownership, whereas I would like to have figures for the past
   calendar year
3. It automatically selects all individual securities and won't let me
   select other asset accounts.  To minimize the accounting effort, I
   have configured my bank-managed accounts as generic asset accounts.
   To achieve the desired performance comparison, I need to be able to
   select the appropriate asset accounts myself.
4. Not critical, but it would be nice to have a graphic, such as those
   provided by the Asset Bar Chart or the Net Worth Line Chart.

Thanks for your help!

On 02.03.20 01:32, Mike Alexander wrote:


On 1 Mar 2020, at 11:51, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote:

I need some reports which show the performance of various
investment accounts over the past year.  I don't find anything
suitable in GC 2.6.19 and don't have the chops (neither in
accounting nor in guile) to write my own.  Surely I am not the
first GC user with this need. The only thing I found which looks
useful is gnucash-portfolio:

Have you tried the Advanced Portfolio report? I think it works pretty 
well in 2.6.19. Depending on what you want it might do the trick.


|Mike |

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Re: [GNC] What type of Data should i use to import from GnuCash Android to Desktop ?

[Geert Janssens]

Op maandag 2 maart 2020 09:10:50 CET schreef Long:
> Hello,
> 
> So, i need stick with CSV files than QIF files?
> 
> P/s : I saw that only Android version who have exporting to QIF files. It's
> seem like CSV files is default for GnuCash "official" (For import & export).
> 
There is no default in the desktop version of GnuCash.

But I think you're right the android version can only export QIF files.

I'll add the android version is a separated project and from earlier messages 
on this list it seems to be abandoned at the moment.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] What type of Data should i use to import from GnuCash Android to Desktop ?

[Long]

Hello,

So, i need stick with CSV files than QIF files?

P/s : I saw that only Android version who have exporting to QIF files. It's
seem like CSV files is default for GnuCash "official" (For import & export).

Thank you so much.



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