Re: [GNC] Exiting gnucash Lock file Vol 226, Issue 57

2022-01-18 Thread David Carlson
Peter,

Your message has gotten detached from the thread..

We need more information to hazard a guess whether your issue is the same
as that of Gyle or if it is just similar.

Do you save your data file on a hard drive?  Do you encrypt it?

Do you use cloud storage for backup?

Do you use Windows or another OS?

Can you think of any other commonality when the lock file is not deleted?



On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:05 PM Peter  wrote:

> This is interesting.
>
> I have had this problem of gnucash intermittently not removing the LOCK
> file for some time.
> My method of closing gnucash is firstly to save the data and the close
> using the menu. I always follow this process and never use the 'X' method.
>
> August 24, 2021 gnucash ver 4.6, I investigated using SQLlite instead of
> the compressed XML for data storage.
> SQLite worked but the resultant file(s) were much larger than the XML
> compressed version so I decided to continue to use the compressed XML.
>
>  From that date (August 24, 2021) to today I still get gnucash
> intermittently not removing the LOCK file.
> This includes ver4.7, ver4.8 and ver4.9. It may happen ver4.6 but unsure.
> Ever time I updated I hoped it would resolve the issue but it still
> happens.
> About 20 days ago I deleted the SQL subdirectory and files from my local
> data disk. This seemed to make no difference to the issue.
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Exiting gnucash Lock file Vol 226, Issue 57

2022-01-18 Thread Peter

This is interesting.

I have had this problem of gnucash intermittently not removing the LOCK 
file for some time.
My method of closing gnucash is firstly to save the data and the close 
using the menu. I always follow this process and never use the 'X' method.


August 24, 2021 gnucash ver 4.6, I investigated using SQLlite instead of 
the compressed XML for data storage.
SQLite worked but the resultant file(s) were much larger than the XML 
compressed version so I decided to continue to use the compressed XML.


From that date (August 24, 2021) to today I still get gnucash 
intermittently not removing the LOCK file.

This includes ver4.7, ver4.8 and ver4.9. It may happen ver4.6 but unsure.
Ever time I updated I hoped it would resolve the issue but it still happens.
About 20 days ago I deleted the SQL subdirectory and files from my local 
data disk. This seemed to make no difference to the issue.




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3.  OneDrive (men...@fastmail.fm)
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Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

2022-01-18 Thread Edward Doolittle
I tried OneDrive with gc for a while. It worked until it didn’t. I’m still not 
sure what happened, but I think MS unilaterally decided to reorganize my 
OneDrive setup. Gc just did not like what it did and starting one day gc would 
not open the file.  I’m not sure what was wrong, and I couldn’t find out, 
because I don’t get the Windows file system at all (Unix guy here) and I just 
could not figure it out even with Google’s help. My hypothesis was that 
somewhere along the line something like a symlink was being used and gc didn’t 
like it.  But I still don’t have a clue, and I don’t need the aggravation, so I 
just moved my gc files out of OneDrive.

I’ve not (yet) had any problems with Office apps and OneDrive which led me to 
believe the problem is that gc accesses the Windows file system at too low a 
level, but I’m sorry, I just don’t have time these days to help debug this 
problem.

Aside from that, I was always sweating over race conditions.  Once a long time 
ago I lost some work because it wasn’t uploaded by OneDrive and then I force 
opened the file on another computer overriding the lock (bad habit cuz I had to 
do it fairly regularly).  The work was in the cloud somewhere but it was less 
trouble in that case for me to retype it.  So my fault, really, but I really 
really don’t need to expend a chunk of my brain mentally modelling the cloud 
sync and lock behaviour every time I use gc.

Other cloud file services might provide better warnings, and might allow you to 
wrap the call to gc in a test that will pop a warning until the file is 
up-to-date in the cloud.  Heck, OneDrive might provide such a wrapper too but I 
don’t know the system well enough.

One piece of advice for everyone: when transferring data from paper to gc, keep 
the paper with potentially unsynced data in a separate pile until you know it’s 
ok (for whatever sense of ok is relevant to you … cloud synced or hard drive 
synced or backed up to external hd, e.g.).  When you know it is synced or 
otherwise backed up, then file it.  In addition to losing data to the cloud 
issue described above, I’ve also lost data the old fashioned way (power failure 
on a desktop without battery backup), and both times I had more trouble than 
necessary re-running my transactions because I managed all those slips of paper 
poorly.

Edward

From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
David Carlson 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:52 PM
To: Gnucash Users
Subject: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

Are there any GnuCash users that store their data files in One Drive?

Are there any issues slow response or keeping a few weeks of backup and log
files?
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 226, Issue 48

2022-01-18 Thread Liz
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:17:10 -0800
Heide Wang  wrote:

>  after I recorded the split transaction, the furniture account shows
> 250.00 but did not show it is for a chair. Did I do something wrong?
> why on the split transaction it shows a chair but not on the
> furniture account ledge? 

I think you have put the "chair" on the notes for the payment to the
credit card company, rather than on the note in the split for the
furniture.

The long answer is to make the credit card account another account in
Gnucash and enter the two transactions separately into the credit card
account, then pay the credit card from the cheque account.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

2022-01-18 Thread davidcousens49
I have been using GnuCash from a dropbox folder linked to both my laptop,
desktop and my wifes tablet for 8-9 years with no prolems as long as only one
device opens it at a time. GnuCash is not a simulataneous multiuser application.
can't see why OneDrive would be any different.
David Cousens

On Tue, 2022-01-18 at 11:00 -0800, Jesse MacDougall wrote:
> Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive?
> I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox in
> real time and that was total fail.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson 
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 226, Issue 48

2022-01-18 Thread Heide Wang
Will,

Thank you very much for your detail instruction. I will update my Gnucash to 3, 
and then to 4, and then to 4.9 as you instructed before I replace my computer.
The printing of certain account ledge page works fine while follow your 
instruction. Thanks again.
Now I have another problem. when I use split transaction, for example, I paid 
from my checking account of $300.00 to a credit card company for two 
transaction charged in the credit card. one is grocery of $50.00 another one is 
a chair for $250.00, so I did the split transaction of grocery and furniture 
account. after I recorded the split transaction, the furniture account shows 
250.00 but did not show it is for a chair. Did I do something wrong? why on the 
split transaction it shows a chair but not on the furniture account ledge? 

Heide 
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>> My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank
>> account.
>> 
>> I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept
>> Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without
>> entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal
>> 
>> Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow
>> doesn't seem right?
>> 
>> Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?
> 
> Just like any other deposit   You debit your checking/bank account for
> the amount of the check, and then credit the amount from wherever the
> funds are coming from, like Income:Salary, Income:Gifts Received, etc.
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> Why did she get a check?  What was it paying for?  That will help you
> decide where the credit the funds.
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> Subject: Re: [GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??
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> I generally use a two step process.  
> 
> First the cheque goes into ?undeposited cheques?.   And the appropriate 
> income account is credited.  Then when I make a deposit I may be depositing 
> cash and multiply cheques in a single transaction with the bank account as 
> destination.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi,
>> 
>>> On Mon, January 17, 2022 10:51 am, Mahon Finbar wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank
>>> account.
>>> 
>>> I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept
>>> Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without
>>> entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal
>>> 
>>> Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow
>>> doesn't seem right?
>>> 
>>> Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?
>> 
>> Just like any 

[GNC] OneDrive

2022-01-18 Thread menace
Hi, I began using GnuCash at the beginning of 2021.  Since the  onset, I've had 
it in a OneDrive folder.  I've had no problems with it syncing between my 
computers.

From: David Carlson 

Good.  I would still like to hear from others about their experience with using 
GnuCash and OneDrive together.

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Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

2022-01-18 Thread David Carlson
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:29 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> First, I would like to say that when I was referring to clicking the "x"
> it was for GNUCash, which the brings up the dialog for "Save/Close without
> Saving/Cancel".  However, if I click the cancel button it "crashes" as
> well.  Also, even if I click the Save, it does the same thing.  All
> instances "crash" GNUCash and any entries not saved since the last
> automatic save are lost.  I also feel it has nothing to do with OneDrive as
> it worked fine until this last problem.
>
> One way to ascertain whether there are any OS or file system issues
working in the background at the same time that GnuCash is doing something
is to keep a task manager running on the same system monitoring volatile
memory and non-volatile 'Drive' activity (and network activity).  Then try
to time your test to happen when there is little or no other activity to
interfere with your test.


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> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
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> From: D. 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:46 PM
> To: David Carlson 
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Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

2022-01-18 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Odd. On my machine, it all works as expected. Save, Cancel, and Close without 
Saving. 

Any chance you might try a reinstallation?


 Original Message 
From: Gyle McCollam 
Sent: Tue Jan 18 14:27:56 EST 2022
To: "D." , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 

Subject: Re: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

First, I would like to say that when I was referring to clicking the "x" it was 
for GNUCash, which the brings up the dialog for "Save/Close without 
Saving/Cancel".  However, if I click the cancel button it "crashes" as well.  
Also, even if I click the Save, it does the same thing.  All instances "crash" 
GNUCash and any entries not saved since the last automatic save are lost.  I 
also feel it has nothing to do with OneDrive as it worked fine until this last 
problem.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: D. 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:46 PM
To: David Carlson 
Cc: Gyle McCollam ; D. via gnucash-user 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

David,

That's off topic. And I don't use OneDrive. Better to start a different topic.

David T.

From: David Carlson
Sent: Tue Jan 18 13:42:16 EST 2022
To: "D."
Cc: Gyle McCollam , "D. via gnucash-user"
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

David T,

Is One Drive able to hide all the file system lags that it introduces from 
programs like GnuCash?  If so, I need to consider using it.  That is why I am 
asking for more comments here.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 12:11 PM D. < 
sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote:
David,

What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't exit 
the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel" dialog box by 
clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave the lock file in 
place when it does so. That the lock file still exists supports the idea of a 
crash.

Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel?

David T.

From: David Carlson
Sent: Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022
To: Gyle McCollam
Cc: " gnucash-user@gnucash.org"
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash


That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it
is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do not use
OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage
that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my
data file storage system.

You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up
with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more
work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus
I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give
us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes
warning.  That may actually lose your recent work just as warned.  Again,
perhaps others have experience with OneDrive.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:




  David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon an

 edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before

 saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see

 last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue popped

 up.

 I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"

 atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter which

 option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the next startup

 it tells me:



 I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make it

 more clear.





 Thank You,

 *Gyle McCollam*



 Gyle McCollam



 609.680.2326 Mobile




 gmccol...@live.com <
 gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email






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 *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM

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 *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash



 It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one

 thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the

 presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to

 open a file already in use are different events.

 Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,

 exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to

 actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long

 time to shut down.  

Re: [GNC] Using logs for recovery

2022-01-18 Thread davidcousens49
Dan

GnuCash will create a log file and a backup file copy  each time it exits and
depending on you preference settings will usually keep a fixed number of them in
the same directory as the mainfile. It is good practice to keep your mainfile in
its own directory for this reason. The trick is to pick the logfile with a date-
timestamp just before the session in which you crashed. There will also be a
similar number of timestamped backup files.

If your main file (the one with no timestamp) won't open after a crash, the best
procedure is to  rename the current mainfile by adding a ".old" or similar
extension appended then copy the backup file with the most recent timestamp to
the main file .gnucash. Run GnuCash opening the renamed backup file,
import any log files in sequence with a timestamp more recent than the backup
file you renamed as the main file. That should restore your file to the point
just before the crash. If that succeeds then you can delete the copy of the main
file you renamed to ".old"


If this still causes a crash repeat the sequence but edit the most recent log
file in a text editor before importing it and remove the last transaction which
likely caused the crash. You will then have to reenter that transaction when
GnuCash is up and running.

Note  In the above only a copy of the most recent backup is renamed to the
mainfile and not the backup itself. This maintains the integrity of the file
backups should anything go wrong in the subsequent import which allows you to
repeat the procedure until you manage to correct the problem.

David Cousens

On Tue, 2022-01-18 at 09:10 -0800, Dan wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> Several times I have tried to use logs to recover after a crash and never
> seem to be able to make them work.  (Please note that I am "intermediate
> level" with GNUcash, and have very limited programming experience.)
> After navigating to:  File → Import → Replay GnuCash .log file, I am faced
> with many .log files following the most recently saved  .gnucash file.
> None of the .log files I replayed seem to do anything.
> My next step is to set up a test company and wreak havoc on the files
> intentionally, and also recover correctly. Below are some questions I hope
> will save me some time.
> Thank you for your consideration. This site is very helpful.
> 
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> Am I missing a crucial step here?
> 
> Will I need to replay several .log files? (To clarify, are the .log files
> each for a specific time period, or does the most recent .log file contain
> all activity since the last saved .gnucash file?)
> 
> Which .log file(s) should I use?
> 
> Which .log file(s) will "wreak havoc" on my accounts?
> 
> Thank you again,
> Confused Dan
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions

2022-01-18 Thread Les

I uninstalled GC via flatpak and then reinstalled it.  No difference.

Oh well.

Les

On 1/17/22 7:41 PM, David H wrote:

Hi Les,

No idea but I wouldn’t think so but it won’t hurt to try. I’ve been 
using the flat pack version on Ubuntu for ages now and also recently 
on Mint 20.3 without seeing any of the problems you seem to be having. 
Do you have any of these issues in other programs/apps ? Have you 
considered upgrading Linux Mint to see if that fixes the problem ?


Cheers David H.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:05 am, Les > wrote:


I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started
using
Flatpak for installations and updates.  I am on Linux Mint 19.3
and GC 4.9.

For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to
correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the
latest,
I cannot open an account by double-clicking.  Instead I have to click
open account.

My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then
re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of
course,
is to eliminate the annoying issues.)

Regards and thanks in advance,

Les

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions

2022-01-18 Thread Les
Hi David: thanks for the reply.  GC via Flatpac is the only issue I 
have.  Since some of the problems occurred during upgrades.


As far as upgrading Linux MInt: I did upgrade to a 20:1 awhile back, but 
it broke some of my other apps.  So I went back to 19.3.


As an experiment, I have another laptop with LM 19.3.  I installed the 
latest GC via Flatpac and DID NOT have any of the issues that I have 
experienced on this machine.  Weird to say the least.


Les

On 1/17/22 7:41 PM, David H wrote:

Hi Les,

No idea but I wouldn’t think so but it won’t hurt to try. I’ve been 
using the flat pack version on Ubuntu for ages now and also recently 
on Mint 20.3 without seeing any of the problems you seem to be having. 
Do you have any of these issues in other programs/apps ? Have you 
considered upgrading Linux Mint to see if that fixes the problem ?


Cheers David H.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:05 am, Les > wrote:


I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started
using
Flatpak for installations and updates.  I am on Linux Mint 19.3
and GC 4.9.

For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to
correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the
latest,
I cannot open an account by double-clicking.  Instead I have to click
open account.

My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then
re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of
course,
is to eliminate the annoying issues.)

Regards and thanks in advance,

Les

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[GNC] Bug 798423 - IMPORT QIF crashes on a Quicken transaction Reminder (NOT a scheduled reminder)

2022-01-18 Thread Steve Conley
I submitted this bug, which was my only "stopper" so far.

Taking import a bit at a time, but it seems to be working well.

I discovered a couple of minor issues with my entries in 26 years pf
quicken and am correcting this and restarting.

Just wanted to thank everyone again, and if I did anything wrong with the
bug submission, please let me know.

I did search Google and the bug list and did not find this bug.

Steve Conley
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Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

2022-01-18 Thread Gyle McCollam
Gerald, I forget how it was done, but I set up OneDrive so that anything saved 
to my documents folder is saved to OneDrive.  In fact, I think they are one and 
the same, but I don't remember the setting.  It was so long ago.  I have had no 
issues with it or using it for GNUCash this way.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Gerald 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:06 PM
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

I use gnucash in Windows 10 in my OneDrive folder.  Occasionally (less that
once a month) I'll get a file locked message when starting GC but I just
delete the lock file in the folder and it's all fine.

Aside from that I have no other file or save issues.

I also backup the GC folder in OneDrive to Google Drive, because I'm
paranoid!






On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 19:01 Jesse MacDougall, 
wrote:

> Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive?
> I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox in
> real time and that was total fail.
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson <
> david.carlson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> log
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Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

2022-01-18 Thread Gyle McCollam
First, I would like to say that when I was referring to clicking the "x" it was 
for GNUCash, which the brings up the dialog for "Save/Close without 
Saving/Cancel".  However, if I click the cancel button it "crashes" as well.  
Also, even if I click the Save, it does the same thing.  All instances "crash" 
GNUCash and any entries not saved since the last automatic save are lost.  I 
also feel it has nothing to do with OneDrive as it worked fine until this last 
problem.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: D. 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:46 PM
To: David Carlson 
Cc: Gyle McCollam ; D. via gnucash-user 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

David,

That's off topic. And I don't use OneDrive. Better to start a different topic.

David T.

From: David Carlson
Sent: Tue Jan 18 13:42:16 EST 2022
To: "D."
Cc: Gyle McCollam , "D. via gnucash-user"
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

David T,

Is One Drive able to hide all the file system lags that it introduces from 
programs like GnuCash?  If so, I need to consider using it.  That is why I am 
asking for more comments here.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 12:11 PM D. < 
sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote:
David,

What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't exit 
the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel" dialog box by 
clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave the lock file in 
place when it does so. That the lock file still exists supports the idea of a 
crash.

Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel?

David T.

From: David Carlson
Sent: Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022
To: Gyle McCollam
Cc: " gnucash-user@gnucash.org"
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash


That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it
is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do not use
OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage
that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my
data file storage system.

You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up
with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more
work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus
I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give
us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes
warning.  That may actually lose your recent work just as warned.  Again,
perhaps others have experience with OneDrive.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:




  David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon an

 edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before

 saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see

 last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue popped

 up.

 I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"

 atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter which

 option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the next startup

 it tells me:



 I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make it

 more clear.





 Thank You,

 *Gyle McCollam*



 Gyle McCollam



 609.680.2326 Mobile




 gmccol...@live.com <
 gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email






 *From:* David Carlson <
 david.carlson@gmail.com>

 *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM

 *To:* Gyle McCollam <
 gmccol...@live.com>

 *Cc:*
 gnucash-user@gnucash.org <
 gnucash-user@gnucash.org>

 *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash



 It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one

 thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the

 presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to

 open a file already in use are different events.

 Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,

 exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to

 actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long

 time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some of

 GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a minute

 for the OS to recover and close the open file.







 On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam <
 gmccol...@live.com> wrote:



 I usually 

Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

2022-01-18 Thread Gerald
I use gnucash in Windows 10 in my OneDrive folder.  Occasionally (less that
once a month) I'll get a file locked message when starting GC but I just
delete the lock file in the folder and it's all fine.

Aside from that I have no other file or save issues.

I also backup the GC folder in OneDrive to Google Drive, because I'm
paranoid!






On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 19:01 Jesse MacDougall, 
wrote:

> Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive?
> I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox in
> real time and that was total fail.
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson <
> david.carlson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
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> >
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Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

2022-01-18 Thread Jesse MacDougall
Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive?
I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox in
real time and that was total fail.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson 
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>
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> files?
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[GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash

2022-01-18 Thread David Carlson
Are there any GnuCash users that store their data files in One Drive?

Are there any issues slow response or keeping a few weeks of backup and log
files?
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Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

2022-01-18 Thread D. via gnucash-user
David, 

That's off topic. And I don't use OneDrive. Better to start a different topic. 

David T.


 Original Message 
From: David Carlson 
Sent: Tue Jan 18 13:42:16 EST 2022
To: "D." 
Cc: Gyle McCollam , "D. via gnucash-user" 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

David T,

Is One Drive able to hide all the file system lags that it introduces from
programs like GnuCash?  If so, I need to consider using it.  That is why I
am asking for more comments here.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 12:11 PM D.  wrote:

> David,
>
> What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't
> exit the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel"
> dialog box by clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave
> the lock file in place when it does so. That the lock file still exists
> supports the idea of a crash.
>
> Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel?
>
> David T.
> --
> *From:* David Carlson
> *Sent:* Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022
> *To:* Gyle McCollam
> *Cc:* "gnucash-user@gnucash.org"
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
> That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it
> is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do not use
> OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage
> that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my
> data file storage system.
>
> You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up
> with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more
> work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus
> I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give
> us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes
> warning.  That may actually lose your recent work just as warned.  Again,
> perhaps others have experience with OneDrive.
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
>  David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon an
>>  edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before
>>  saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see
>>  last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue popped
>>  up.
>>  I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"
>>  atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter which
>>  option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the next startup
>>  it tells me:
>>
>>  I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make it
>>  more clear.
>>
>>
>>  Thank You,
>>  *Gyle McCollam*
>>
>>  Gyle McCollam
>>
>>  609.680.2326 Mobile
>>
>>  gmccol...@live.comemail
>> --
>>
>>  *From:* David Carlson 
>>  *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM
>>  *To:* Gyle McCollam 
>>  *Cc:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
>>  *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>>
>>  It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one
>>  thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the
>>  presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to
>>  open a file already in use are different events.
>>  Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,
>>  exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to
>>  actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long
>>  time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some of
>>  GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a minute
>>  for the OS to recover and close the open file.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>>
>>  I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has
>>  been happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I
>>  selected "cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to
>>  open it thought there was another instance running, but I said open
>>  anyway.  I tested this again with the same result.  Then I tried it again,
>>  this time telling the system to save.  It shut down again, but it did not
>>  save!  I got the same message about the file already in use.
>>
>>  Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.
>>
>>
>>  Thank You,
>>  Gyle McCollam
>>
>>  Gyle McCollam
>>
>>  609.680.2326 Mobile
>>
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Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

2022-01-18 Thread David Carlson
David T,

Is One Drive able to hide all the file system lags that it introduces from
programs like GnuCash?  If so, I need to consider using it.  That is why I
am asking for more comments here.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 12:11 PM D.  wrote:

> David,
>
> What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't
> exit the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel"
> dialog box by clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave
> the lock file in place when it does so. That the lock file still exists
> supports the idea of a crash.
>
> Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel?
>
> David T.
> --
> *From:* David Carlson
> *Sent:* Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022
> *To:* Gyle McCollam
> *Cc:* "gnucash-user@gnucash.org"
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
> That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it
> is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do not use
> OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage
> that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my
> data file storage system.
>
> You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up
> with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more
> work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus
> I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give
> us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes
> warning.  That may actually lose your recent work just as warned.  Again,
> perhaps others have experience with OneDrive.
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
>  David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon an
>>  edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before
>>  saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see
>>  last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue popped
>>  up.
>>  I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"
>>  atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter which
>>  option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the next startup
>>  it tells me:
>>
>>  I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make it
>>  more clear.
>>
>>
>>  Thank You,
>>  *Gyle McCollam*
>>
>>  Gyle McCollam
>>
>>  609.680.2326 Mobile
>>
>>  gmccol...@live.comemail
>> --
>>
>>  *From:* David Carlson 
>>  *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM
>>  *To:* Gyle McCollam 
>>  *Cc:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
>>  *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>>
>>  It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one
>>  thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the
>>  presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to
>>  open a file already in use are different events.
>>  Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,
>>  exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to
>>  actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long
>>  time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some of
>>  GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a minute
>>  for the OS to recover and close the open file.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>>
>>  I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has
>>  been happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I
>>  selected "cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to
>>  open it thought there was another instance running, but I said open
>>  anyway.  I tested this again with the same result.  Then I tried it again,
>>  this time telling the system to save.  It shut down again, but it did not
>>  save!  I got the same message about the file already in use.
>>
>>  Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.
>>
>>
>>  Thank You,
>>  Gyle McCollam
>>
>>  Gyle McCollam
>>
>>  609.680.2326 Mobile
>>
>>  gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

2022-01-18 Thread D. via gnucash-user
David, 

What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't exit 
the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel" dialog box by 
clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave the lock file in 
place when it does so. That the lock file still exists supports the idea of a 
crash. 

Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel? 

David T.


 Original Message 
From: David Carlson 
Sent: Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it
is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do not use
OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage
that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my
data file storage system.

You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up
with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more
work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus
I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give
us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes
warning.  That may actually lose your recent work just as warned.  Again,
perhaps others have experience with OneDrive.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon an
> edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before
> saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see
> last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue popped
> up.
> I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"
> atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter which
> option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the next startup
> it tells me:
>
> I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make it
> more clear.
>
>
> Thank You,
> *Gyle McCollam*
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326 Mobile
>
> gmccol...@live.comemail
> --
> *From:* David Carlson 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM
> *To:* Gyle McCollam 
> *Cc:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
> It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one
> thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the
> presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to
> open a file already in use are different events.
> Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,
> exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to
> actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long
> time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some of
> GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a minute
> for the OS to recover and close the open file.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has
> been happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I
> selected "cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to
> open it thought there was another instance running, but I said open
> anyway.  I tested this again with the same result.  Then I tried it again,
> this time telling the system to save.  It shut down again, but it did not
> save!  I got the same message about the file already in use.
>
> Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326 Mobile
>
> gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

2022-01-18 Thread john
All of those messages are harmless.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Steve Conley  wrote:
> 
> A BIG Thanks to all who responded with clues or solutions ...
> r
> Geert, QUITE RIGHT about the broken -lotto.  I now have it working. "Who
> would have that the only place it did not work was where the doc said it
> should be ...).
> 
> I finally successfully loaded up to "about" where it died.  I am proceeding
> to check the Quicken QIF and work my way slowly "over" the bug - either in
> Quicken output or gnucash input.
> 
> The import seemed to do, on the surface, the 3 years I imported mostly the
> correct things ... will verify and report, if anyone is interested, the
> things that failed.
> 
> CURRENTLY: I still have these messages to the CONSOLE if run in a command
> window.
> These "seem" to be harmless bugs "so far", but someone might like to know
> about them:
> 
> Gtk-Message: 11:47:04.747: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: 11:47:05.351: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: 11:47:05.418: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> Found Finance::Quote version 1.49.
> 
> LOTS OF THESE:
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.099: Negative content width
> -2147483648 (allocation -2147483648, extents 0x0) while allocating gadget
> (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
> 
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.099: Drawing a gadget with negative
> dimensions. Did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress owner
> GtkProgressBar)
> 
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.164: Negative content width
> -2147483648 (allocation -2147483648, extents 0x0) while allocating gadget
> (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
> 
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.165: Drawing a gadget with negative
> dimensions. Did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress owner
> GtkProgressBar)
> 
> Anyway, THANKS AGAIN.
> Steve Conley
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:58 AM Geert Janssens  >
> wrote:
> 
>> In addition to David's suggestions, here's one to get debug logs.
>> 
>> In flatpak the log file is not generated by default (due to some internal
>> conflicts in the sandbox wrt where gnucash wants to write the log file).
>> 
>> So if you want to generate the logs add
>> 
>> --logto=
>> 
>> to you flatpak command.
>> 
>> The filename can be either 'stdout' to print directly to your console
>> window or any file path that's not in /tmp, for example
>> "$HOME/gnucash.trace"
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Geert
>> 
>> Op maandag 17 januari 2022 22:12:31 CET schreef Steve Conley:
>> 
>>> I have been trying for 5 days now to chunk Quicken and start using
>> gnucash.
>> 
>>> ANY CLUES will be sincerely appreciated.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> The immediate problem I am trying to solve:
>> 
>>> Quicken export to qif of accounts/categories "seems" to complete - but
>> 
>>> nothing visible in gnucash.
>> 
>>> Quicken export to qif of tranactions seems to work also.  (large).
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> *But gnucash import of even a limited qif data to 2001, gets to the final
>> 
>>> import stage and gnucash dies with no error.  Sometime in late QIF
>> import -
>> 
>>> before matching step.*
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Naturally I try to get a debug log but the ONLY way I was able to make
>> 
>>> anything happen was
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> (I pulled the startup command from the .desktop entry):
>> 
>>> /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash
>> 
>>> --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug
>> 
>>> (and added --debug)
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> This does not put a trace/debug file anywhere I can find. Definitely not
>> in
>> 
>>> /tmp.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I next tried specifying the logto option with /tmp/gnucash.trace or
>> 
>>> ~/gnucash.trace
>> 
>>> The trace goes neither place.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Running this:
>> 
>>> /usr/bin/flatpak run --command=gnucash --file-forwarding
>> 
>>> org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug gcashdata_3.gnucash
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> (I had to remove the branch and arch options that are in the desktop
>> entry
>> 
>>> (which I copied from above) to even get his outputof warnings)
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> and then doing the qif import, results in about 40 lines of:
>> 
>>> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Negative content width
>> -2147483648
>> 
>>>  while allocating gadget (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
>> 
>>> and
>> 
>>> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Drawing a gadget with negative
>> 
>>> dimensions. did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress, owner
>> 
>>> GtkProgressBar)
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Whether this results in the actual crash, I have no idea.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> OTHER BACKGROUND ON WAY TO HERE ...
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Whenever gnucash is started, I get the Gtk messages as follows:
>> 
>>> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
>> 
>>> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
>> 
>>> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

2022-01-18 Thread Steve Conley
A BIG Thanks to all who responded with clues or solutions ...
r
Geert, QUITE RIGHT about the broken -lotto.  I now have it working. "Who
would have that the only place it did not work was where the doc said it
should be ...).

I finally successfully loaded up to "about" where it died.  I am proceeding
to check the Quicken QIF and work my way slowly "over" the bug - either in
Quicken output or gnucash input.

The import seemed to do, on the surface, the 3 years I imported mostly the
correct things ... will verify and report, if anyone is interested, the
things that failed.

CURRENTLY: I still have these messages to the CONSOLE if run in a command
window.
These "seem" to be harmless bugs "so far", but someone might like to know
about them:

Gtk-Message: 11:47:04.747: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 11:47:05.351: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 11:47:05.418: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Found Finance::Quote version 1.49.

LOTS OF THESE:
(gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.099: Negative content width
-2147483648 (allocation -2147483648, extents 0x0) while allocating gadget
(node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)

(gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.099: Drawing a gadget with negative
dimensions. Did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress owner
GtkProgressBar)

(gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.164: Negative content width
-2147483648 (allocation -2147483648, extents 0x0) while allocating gadget
(node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)

(gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:50:59.165: Drawing a gadget with negative
dimensions. Did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress owner
GtkProgressBar)

Anyway, THANKS AGAIN.
Steve Conley




On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:58 AM Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> In addition to David's suggestions, here's one to get debug logs.
>
> In flatpak the log file is not generated by default (due to some internal
> conflicts in the sandbox wrt where gnucash wants to write the log file).
>
> So if you want to generate the logs add
>
> --logto=
>
> to you flatpak command.
>
> The filename can be either 'stdout' to print directly to your console
> window or any file path that's not in /tmp, for example
> "$HOME/gnucash.trace"
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
> Op maandag 17 januari 2022 22:12:31 CET schreef Steve Conley:
>
> > I have been trying for 5 days now to chunk Quicken and start using
> gnucash.
>
> > ANY CLUES will be sincerely appreciated.
>
> >
>
> > The immediate problem I am trying to solve:
>
> > Quicken export to qif of accounts/categories "seems" to complete - but
>
> > nothing visible in gnucash.
>
> > Quicken export to qif of tranactions seems to work also.  (large).
>
> >
>
> > *But gnucash import of even a limited qif data to 2001, gets to the final
>
> > import stage and gnucash dies with no error.  Sometime in late QIF
> import -
>
> > before matching step.*
>
> >
>
> > Naturally I try to get a debug log but the ONLY way I was able to make
>
> > anything happen was
>
> >
>
> > (I pulled the startup command from the .desktop entry):
>
> > /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash
>
> > --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug
>
> > (and added --debug)
>
> >
>
> > This does not put a trace/debug file anywhere I can find. Definitely not
> in
>
> > /tmp.
>
> >
>
> > I next tried specifying the logto option with /tmp/gnucash.trace or
>
> > ~/gnucash.trace
>
> > The trace goes neither place.
>
> >
>
> > Running this:
>
> > /usr/bin/flatpak run --command=gnucash --file-forwarding
>
> > org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug gcashdata_3.gnucash
>
> >
>
> > (I had to remove the branch and arch options that are in the desktop
> entry
>
> > (which I copied from above) to even get his outputof warnings)
>
> >
>
> > and then doing the qif import, results in about 40 lines of:
>
> > (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Negative content width
> -2147483648
>
> >  while allocating gadget (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
>
> > and
>
> > (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Drawing a gadget with negative
>
> > dimensions. did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress, owner
>
> > GtkProgressBar)
>
> >
>
> > Whether this results in the actual crash, I have no idea.
>
> >
>
> > OTHER BACKGROUND ON WAY TO HERE ...
>
> >
>
> > Whenever gnucash is started, I get the Gtk messages as follows:
>
> > Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
>
> > Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
>
> > Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
>
> >
>
> > I tried all manner of suggestions of loading appmenu-gtk/2/3 and
>
> > libcanberra-gtk/2/3 etcand reinstalling each. all said they were
> installed
>
> > and all re-installs also completed without error.
>
> > But did not get rid of the messge.
>
> >
>
> > The machine is a core-i3 with 4GB of RAM and a large drive - so space
>
> > should not be an issue.
>
> > But it is an 

[GNC] Using logs for recovery

2022-01-18 Thread Dan
Greetings,

Several times I have tried to use logs to recover after a crash and never
seem to be able to make them work.  (Please note that I am "intermediate
level" with GNUcash, and have very limited programming experience.)
After navigating to:  File → Import → Replay GnuCash .log file, I am faced
with many .log files following the most recently saved  .gnucash file.
None of the .log files I replayed seem to do anything.
My next step is to set up a test company and wreak havoc on the files
intentionally, and also recover correctly. Below are some questions I hope
will save me some time.
Thank you for your consideration. This site is very helpful.


My questions are:

Am I missing a crucial step here?

Will I need to replay several .log files? (To clarify, are the .log files
each for a specific time period, or does the most recent .log file contain
all activity since the last saved .gnucash file?)

Which .log file(s) should I use?

Which .log file(s) will "wreak havoc" on my accounts?

Thank you again,
Confused Dan
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Re: [GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

2022-01-18 Thread Mahon Finbar
OK, I get that now, I thought I should register it under "gifts" a debit 
headline. but it is better under 'gifts received'


Thanks

On 17/01/2022 18:09, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, January 17, 2022 10:51 am, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Hi,

My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank
account.

I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept
Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without
entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal

Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow
doesn't seem right?

Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?

Just like any other deposit   You debit your checking/bank account for
the amount of the check, and then credit the amount from wherever the
funds are coming from, like Income:Salary, Income:Gifts Received, etc.

Why did she get a check?  What was it paying for?  That will help you
decide where the credit the funds.


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Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

2022-01-18 Thread Geert Janssens
In addition to David's suggestions, here's one to get debug logs.

In flatpak the log file is not generated by default (due to some internal 
conflicts in the 
sandbox wrt where gnucash wants to write the log file).

So if you want to generate the logs add 
--logto=
to you flatpak command.
The filename can be either 'stdout' to print directly to your console window or 
any file path 
that's not in /tmp, for example "$HOME/gnucash.trace"

Regards,

Geert

Op maandag 17 januari 2022 22:12:31 CET schreef Steve Conley:
> I have been trying for 5 days now to chunk Quicken and start using gnucash.
> ANY CLUES will be sincerely appreciated.
> 
> The immediate problem I am trying to solve:
> Quicken export to qif of accounts/categories "seems" to complete - but
> nothing visible in gnucash.
> Quicken export to qif of tranactions seems to work also.  (large).
> 
> *But gnucash import of even a limited qif data to 2001, gets to the final
> import stage and gnucash dies with no error.  Sometime in late QIF import -
> before matching step.*
> 
> Naturally I try to get a debug log but the ONLY way I was able to make
> anything happen was
> 
> (I pulled the startup command from the .desktop entry):
> /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash
> --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug
> (and added --debug)
> 
> This does not put a trace/debug file anywhere I can find. Definitely not in
> /tmp.
> 
> I next tried specifying the logto option with /tmp/gnucash.trace or
> ~/gnucash.trace
> The trace goes neither place.
> 
> Running this:
> /usr/bin/flatpak run --command=gnucash --file-forwarding
> org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug gcashdata_3.gnucash
> 
> (I had to remove the branch and arch options that are in the desktop entry
> (which I copied from above) to even get his outputof warnings)
> 
> and then doing the qif import, results in about 40 lines of:
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Negative content width -2147483648
>  while allocating gadget (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
> and
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Drawing a gadget with negative
> dimensions. did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress, owner
> GtkProgressBar)
> 
> Whether this results in the actual crash, I have no idea.
> 
> OTHER BACKGROUND ON WAY TO HERE ...
> 
> Whenever gnucash is started, I get the Gtk messages as follows:
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> 
> I tried all manner of suggestions of loading appmenu-gtk/2/3 and
> libcanberra-gtk/2/3 etcand reinstalling each. all said they were installed
> and all re-installs also completed without error.
> But did not get rid of the messge.
> 
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[GNC] [MAINT] Unplanned hardware outage for code.gnucash.org

2022-01-18 Thread Derek Atkins
Good morning,

At around 11:30pm US/EST last night, the hardware hosting code.gnucash.org
crashed.  I noticed the outage this morning at around 6:30 and
power-cycled the hardware around 7am.  The system rebooted and the VMs
(including code) were back in operation by around 7:20am.

Looking at the logs host logs, it looks like the host system was still
alive but started having "sanlock" issues around 00:33 this morning, then
a watchdog error at 00:34, and an ATA error immediately after.  At this
point I started getting VDSM errors, another ATA error 10 seconds later,
and then VDSM execution errors (most likely all due to the ATA issues). 
About 30 seconds letter the VDSM service exited into "failed state", and
the log abruptly ends shortly thereafter at 00:34:55.

According to the reboot log, ATA4 is a 2TB SSD.  It is unclear if the
issue is the drive itself or the ATA driver.

At this point, the hardware is up and running, but clearly there is "an
issue".  I'm getting on a plane in 3h30m so hopefully the system will
remain stable until I return Thursday.

-derek

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   Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
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   Computer and Internet Security Consultant

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