Re: [GNC] gnucash.org is down -- for how long?
We don't know, we haven't heard anything from Linas. Based on some trace route probing it looks like it might be an upstream network problem at Grande Commnication Networks, his ISP. Regards, John Ralls > On Feb 14, 2023, at 5:31 PM, Libby Shaw wrote: > > Thanks for any info. > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] gnucash.org is down -- for how long?
Thanks for any info. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Saved Report Configurations
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 4:06 AM Mahon Finbar wrote: > OK, a little nit picky? but whatever rows your boat. I just need the > detail for the taxman once a year, he doesn't deserve a PDF > Here in the US, I have been told I should be able to support any tax filing for seven years, OR indefinitely, if I have been notified that a particular year's filing is in question. SO I keep a paper copy of everything I've submitted, and electronic versions of my supporting information archived for convenience. I submit PDFs of the Income Statement and a Transaction Report showing the relevant asset accounts to my tax preparer, and save them indefinitely in case of an audit (which so far hasn't occurred). - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match
On 2/14/2023 12:14 PM, John Wilson wrote: I have set up a new set of books by exporting a tree of accounts from 2022, the old books, to 2023 the new books. In the old books the Net Income in my P report matched the Retained Earnings in my Balance Sheet report but it doesn't in my new set of books. Is this 'a bug' or have I done something to my tree of accounts? Ignoring the immediate cause that has been pointed out, there is a misunderstanding of what "net income" (or loss) on a P mean relative to "retained earnings" on a Balance Sheet. By which I mean OVER TIME and assuming that most users of gnucash will NOT be doing a "close the books: operation. Net Earnings (or loss) on a P are fro the period of the P (a P is always for some date interval) Retained Earnings on the Balance Sheet (always as of some specific date) is the net going back to when the books were opened (or reopened following a "close the books" In other words, if you started with gnucash at the start of 2021 and you ran a P for that year and a Balance Sheet as of year end of 2021 you would expect net income (for 2021) and "retained earnings" to match. Then at the end of 2022 you again run a P for 2022 and a Balance Sheet for year end you will again have a "net income" (or loss) for 2022 and this will NOT match "retained earnings" << which will be the sum of the earnings retained in 2021 and 2022. If you DO a "close the books" this will not happen. At the end of a "close the books" all the temporary accounts of type income and expense will be zero and their net (the profit or loss) included in equity and so no longer "retained". Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match
David, it's a gnucash file. But Murugan figured out the discrepancy. Regards, Adrien On 2/14/23 11:34 AM, David Carlson wrote: What document type is that attachment? If it isn't something my computer can scan for viruses, I won't open it. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Operation is still running, wait for it to complete before quitting
Crossed my fingers, closed GnuCash, and restarted. It started up OK, and all the data appears to be intact. I've been using GnuCash since 1998, and this is the first glitch I have encountered. Not a bad record. Richard On 2/13/23 16:34, David Carlson wrote: I have occasionally seen that release of GnuCash do something similar to that when it crashes. In my case I just re-start it and click open anyway at the prompt. Then I check to see if whatever I was doing completed or if I lost any recent keystrokes. Usually there is little or nothing missing because I do frequent saves before starting anything involving a lot of keystrokes. On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:52 PM Richard Dawson wrote: On 2/13/23 14:06, Tommy Trussell wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 3:46 PM Richard Dawson wrote: > > Several hours after after successfully completing reconciliation, I > attempted to add another transaction, and I was greeted with the > message, "Operation is still running, wait for it to complete before > quitting." I've been waiting for an hour or so, and there is no hard > drive activity. Attempting to save gives the same message. > > If I recall correctly, I had saved the file when I completed the > reconciliation, as that is my general practice, but I left the > machine > on with the file open. > > How should I proceed? > > > Unless your system is very very slow, I wouldn't expect ANYTHING in > GnuCash to take more than a few seconds to complete, though I am sure > there must be exceptions. I would strongly suspect a hardware or > network problem in your case. > > Can you determine and tell us the version of GnuCash you're running > (and where you got it, if not from an official source), and can you > tell us what operating system is running on your computer? > > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > GnuCash 4.8, Build ID 4.8a+(2021-09-28) I installed it from Ubuntu repository. My operating system is Kubuntu 22.04 I've been running this version of gnucash for several years, since it became available via Ubuntu. I agree that it shouldn't take this long... It's now been several hours more! Richard ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST)
A useful site to bookmark for questions like this is "Down for Everyone or Just Me": https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match
john you have entries from 2022 in the following accounts, that is why the difference Technology C$224,00 Website C$1.040,00 Saludos Cordiales Murugan From: gnucash-user on behalf of John Wilson Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 2:14 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match I have set up a new set of books by exporting a tree of accounts from 2022, the old books, to 2023 the new books. In the old books the Net Income in my P report matched the Retained Earnings in my Balance Sheet report but it doesn't in my new set of books. Is this 'a bug' or have I done something to my tree of accounts? Help! -- John Wilson, 3770 San Mateo Drive, Port Alberni, BC, V9Y 5H4 Tel: 250-723-3752 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match
You might check to see that the accounts being pulled into those reports are complete. I have found that those numbers don't match when the list of accounts on the Balance Sheet report doesn't match the list of accounts on the P (possibly because some are hidden accounts with balances). On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:36:04 PM EST, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote: Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match (John Wilson) 2. Re: Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST) (Ken Pyzik) 3. Re: Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST) (Adrien Monteleone) 4. Re: Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match (David Carlson) I have set up a new set of books by exporting a tree of accounts from 2022, the old books, to 2023 the new books. In the old books the Net Income in my P report matched the Retained Earnings in my Balance Sheet report but it doesn't in my new set of books. Is this 'a bug' or have I done something to my tree of accounts? Help! -- John Wilson, 3770 San Mateo Drive, Port Alberni, BC, V9Y 5H4 Tel: 250-723-3752 Tuesday 2/14/2023 at 9:15PST- GnuCash.org is still down. Been down for ove= r 14 hours. I got only one response - so maybe this was a planned outage t= hat I missed? If so, sorry for posting. If not - info for everyone to kno= w. Ken From: Ken Pyzik Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 7:24 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST) Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST)? Can't seem to get to = it. - Ken There are some issues with the website the devs are aware of but can't yet fix. (has to do with limited access rights) The list server, wiki, bugzilla & github should all be working however. Regards, Adrien On 2/14/23 11:18 AM, Ken Pyzik wrote: > Tuesday 2/14/2023 at 9:15PST- GnuCash.org is still down. Been down for over > 14 hours. I got only one response - so maybe this was a planned outage that > I missed? If so, sorry for posting. If not - info for everyone to know. What document type is that attachment? If it isn't something my computer can scan for viruses, I won't open it. Now, if you started a new file with the same account tree, it won't have any transactions, so those reports will be different, in fact, IIRC, net income should be zero and retained earnings whatever you set the opening balance to when you set up the new books. On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:14 AM John Wilson wrote: > I have set up a new set of books by exporting a tree of accounts from > 2022, the old books, to 2023 the new books. > > In the old books the Net Income in my P report matched the Retained > Earnings in my Balance Sheet report but it doesn't in my new set of books. > > Is this 'a bug' or have I done something to my tree of accounts? > > Help! > > -- > John Wilson, > 3770 San Mateo Drive, > Port Alberni, BC, V9Y 5H4 > Tel: 250-723-3752 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match
What document type is that attachment? If it isn't something my computer can scan for viruses, I won't open it. Now, if you started a new file with the same account tree, it won't have any transactions, so those reports will be different, in fact, IIRC, net income should be zero and retained earnings whatever you set the opening balance to when you set up the new books. On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:14 AM John Wilson wrote: > I have set up a new set of books by exporting a tree of accounts from > 2022, the old books, to 2023 the new books. > > In the old books the Net Income in my P report matched the Retained > Earnings in my Balance Sheet report but it doesn't in my new set of books. > > Is this 'a bug' or have I done something to my tree of accounts? > > Help! > > -- > John Wilson, > 3770 San Mateo Drive, > Port Alberni, BC, V9Y 5H4 > Tel: 250-723-3752 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST)
There are some issues with the website the devs are aware of but can't yet fix. (has to do with limited access rights) The list server, wiki, bugzilla & github should all be working however. Regards, Adrien On 2/14/23 11:18 AM, Ken Pyzik wrote: Tuesday 2/14/2023 at 9:15PST- GnuCash.org is still down. Been down for over 14 hours. I got only one response - so maybe this was a planned outage that I missed? If so, sorry for posting. If not - info for everyone to know. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST)
Tuesday 2/14/2023 at 9:15PST- GnuCash.org is still down. Been down for over 14 hours. I got only one response - so maybe this was a planned outage that I missed? If so, sorry for posting. If not - info for everyone to know. Ken From: Ken Pyzik Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 7:24 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST) Is GnuCash.org down (Monday, 2/13/2023, 7:20PM PST)? Can't seem to get to it. - Ken ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Net Income & Retained Earnings do not match
I have set up a new set of books by exporting a tree of accounts from 2022, the old books, to 2023 the new books. In the old books the Net Income in my P report matched the Retained Earnings in my Balance Sheet report but it doesn't in my new set of books. Is this 'a bug' or have I done something to my tree of accounts? Help! -- John Wilson, 3770 San Mateo Drive, Port Alberni, BC, V9Y 5H4 Tel: 250-723-3752 AVUC23.gnucash Description: application/gnucash ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Saved Report Configurations
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:18:53 -0500 Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > So how do I handle the reality that I have many P reports, many > Balance Sheet reports, etc. run for different dates? I have a directory called Reports then financial year subdirectories and under that subdirectories for home, business and other books I keep So when I need the data for the accountant I make the reports for the financial year and just have to copy one directory of reports to the CD I burn * Each of my saved report configurations contain financial year dates, which I set in the general preferences to the appropriate dates. * That CD-R has lots of other data for the financial year and a copy of the Gnucash program. It makes my archive copy, although I think the accountants copy everything off it for their archives. Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Saved Report Configurations
OK, a little nit picky? but whatever rows your boat. I just need the detail for the taxman once a year, he doesn't deserve a PDF Delighted with the responses, bully for Gnucasha fabulous app and services. Finbar On 13/02/2023 17:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I do the same. I have general configurations saved, but anything particular to that solitary instance of the report, I do not save as part of the configuration. Those will be one-offs so no need to save them as a config, just run and if I want, save as a PDF. Regards, Adrien On 2/13/23 8:18 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: However, there IS a different approach possible. I do not consider the SAME report except run for a different date/period to be a different "configuration". I consider "configuration" to refer to things like display options, nesting levels, what accounts to include/exclude, etc. But not dates. So how do I handle the reality that I have many P reports, many Balance Sheet reports, etc. run for different dates? I create directories (file folders) to hold them with suitable names (like Balance Sheets) and then after running the report in gnucash I export it to this folder using a suitable file name that clearly identifies it. Thus I might name the the file which is a Balance Sheet run for the effective date of Jan 31 "BalanceSheet20230131" Mind, I've been using gnucash since 2007, so if saving within gnucash data. It would be a ridiculous amount of clutter within gnucash data if I kept them all there. The fact that I knew to do this from the start (when there were just a few) is because I was a freshly retired pro. Avoid future problems. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
