Re: [GNC] Is it safe to update?
I upgraded 2 of my Linux Mint systems to 2.6.21 via Snap yesterday without apparent issues. This is not a recommendation, just a reply. Regards, Les On 04/18/2018 11:18 AM, Michael via gnucash-user wrote: > I have the same question wrt Linux. How about 2.6.21? Mike > > > On 04/18/2018 08:45 AM, Jack Slater wrote: >> I'm running version 2.6.19 on a Windows 10 PC. I've seen several emails >> regarding crashes, freezes, errors, bugs,etc coming from upgrading to >> version 3. So is it safe? Should I wait? I really don't want to mess >> up my >> weekly finance management process. >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Snap Package Manager
Thanks Colin. Sheer genius! How could I have overlooked the obvious? Installed without a hitch. Regards, Les On 04/17/2018 05:05 AM, Colin Law wrote: > $ snap find gnucash > Name Version Developer Notes Summary > gnucash-jz 2.6.21a jz - GnuCash is personal and > small-business financial-accounting software > > So it is called gnucash-jz > > Colin > > On 17 April 2018 at 10:27, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > After creating a new saved file, I tried installing GC 2.6.21 using > Snap. When I entered "snap install gnucash" I received a message "no > gnucash found"! > > So much for snap, at least for now. > > Regards, > > Les > > > On 04/16/2018 01:13 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: > > While I've installed some SNAPS on my Ubuntu machine, I've not used > > them extensively. Would a SNAP distribution of GNC allow a binary > > release for all distros without having to wait for the package > > maintainers to update their repositories? > > > > That would sure be nice. > > > > Michael > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com> > > <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the reply Ron. FWIW, I backup everyday. If I decide > > to try > > a Snap install, I will create a new backup file with a new > file name. > > > > Regards, > > > > Les > > > > > > On 04/16/2018 12:12 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > > > I have very limited experience with SNAP on Ubuntu. It's been > > > generally good, but not completely problem free. I have > thought > > about > > > trying to create a SNAP for GnuCash 3.0, but first I'll > have to > > get it > > > to build cleanly in the native environment, something has > so far > > > eluded me. > > > > > > As I understand it, applications installed as a SNAP > package are > > > self-contained and sandboxed. So, in theory, a SNAP of > GnuCash > > should > > > install alongside an existing version from repository and > never the > > > 'twain shall meet. > > > > > > In reality -- I don't know. But I know one way to find out... > > > > > > Backups, I think would be the order of the day if anyone > is going to > > > pursue this. > > > > > > Ron Morse > > > > > > > > > On 04/16/2018 07:51 AM, Les wrote: > > >> Hello Everyone: > > >> > > >> I am currently running LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17 (the > > latest from > > >> getdebs.net <http://getdebs.net> <http://getdebs.net>). > > >> > > >> Recently, I was reading the Linux Mint blog which > mentioned a new > > >> package manager called Snap, described as a > self-contained package > > >> manager containing all dependencies. I checked Synaptic and > > found Snapd > > >> and installed it > > >> > > >> I used Snapd to install a new (to me) web browser called > > Brave. After > > >> the installation completed, I went to applications but > there was no > > >> listing for Brave. Not what I expected, but no big deal. > > >> > > >> I then did a listing of Snap packages and found Gnucash > 2.6.21 > > listed. > > >> > > >> Assuming I try to install GC using Snap, would I need to > > uninstall GC > > >> 2.6.17 first? > > >> > > >> Does anyone have experience with Snap? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Les > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> gnucash-user mailing list > > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.or
Re: [GNC] Snap Package Manager
After creating a new saved file, I tried installing GC 2.6.21 using Snap. When I entered "snap install gnucash" I received a message "no gnucash found"! So much for snap, at least for now. Regards, Les On 04/16/2018 01:13 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: > While I've installed some SNAPS on my Ubuntu machine, I've not used > them extensively. Would a SNAP distribution of GNC allow a binary > release for all distros without having to wait for the package > maintainers to update their repositories? > > That would sure be nice. > > Michael > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply Ron. FWIW, I backup everyday. If I decide > to try > a Snap install, I will create a new backup file with a new file name. > > Regards, > > Les > > > On 04/16/2018 12:12 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > > I have very limited experience with SNAP on Ubuntu. It's been > > generally good, but not completely problem free. I have thought > about > > trying to create a SNAP for GnuCash 3.0, but first I'll have to > get it > > to build cleanly in the native environment, something has so far > > eluded me. > > > > As I understand it, applications installed as a SNAP package are > > self-contained and sandboxed. So, in theory, a SNAP of GnuCash > should > > install alongside an existing version from repository and never the > > 'twain shall meet. > > > > In reality -- I don't know. But I know one way to find out... > > > > Backups, I think would be the order of the day if anyone is going to > > pursue this. > > > > Ron Morse > > > > > > On 04/16/2018 07:51 AM, Les wrote: > >> Hello Everyone: > >> > >> I am currently running LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17 (the > latest from > >> getdebs.net <http://getdebs.net>). > >> > >> Recently, I was reading the Linux Mint blog which mentioned a new > >> package manager called Snap, described as a self-contained package > >> manager containing all dependencies. I checked Synaptic and > found Snapd > >> and installed it > >> > >> I used Snapd to install a new (to me) web browser called > Brave. After > >> the installation completed, I went to applications but there was no > >> listing for Brave. Not what I expected, but no big deal. > >> > >> I then did a listing of Snap packages and found Gnucash 2.6.21 > listed. > >> > >> Assuming I try to install GC using Snap, would I need to > uninstall GC > >> 2.6.17 first? > >> > >> Does anyone have experience with Snap? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Les > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists > <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists> for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists > <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists> for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnuc
Re: [GNC] Snap Package Manager
Hi Michael: It certainly would be nice to have another source for new releases of gnucash. I have just discovered Snap and have mixed "feelings" about it. I tried one install which resulted in no new application. The information on GC 2.6.21 from the find gnucash reveals: Name Version Developer Notes Summary gnucash-jz 2.6.21a jz - GnuCash is personal and small-business financial-accounting software I don't know what the "a" at the end of 2.6.21 means. At the end of day, I will create a new backup file with a new name and try an install. I will post my results. Regards, On 04/16/2018 01:13 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: > While I've installed some SNAPS on my Ubuntu machine, I've not used > them extensively. Would a SNAP distribution of GNC allow a binary > release for all distros without having to wait for the package > maintainers to update their repositories? > > That would sure be nice..... > > Michael > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply Ron. FWIW, I backup everyday. If I decide > to try > a Snap install, I will create a new backup file with a new file name. > > Regards, > > Les > > > On 04/16/2018 12:12 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > > I have very limited experience with SNAP on Ubuntu. It's been > > generally good, but not completely problem free. I have thought > about > > trying to create a SNAP for GnuCash 3.0, but first I'll have to > get it > > to build cleanly in the native environment, something has so far > > eluded me. > > > > As I understand it, applications installed as a SNAP package are > > self-contained and sandboxed. So, in theory, a SNAP of GnuCash > should > > install alongside an existing version from repository and never the > > 'twain shall meet. > > > > In reality -- I don't know. But I know one way to find out... > > > > Backups, I think would be the order of the day if anyone is going to > > pursue this. > > > > Ron Morse > > > > > > On 04/16/2018 07:51 AM, Les wrote: > >> Hello Everyone: > >> > >> I am currently running LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17 (the > latest from > >> getdebs.net <http://getdebs.net>). > >> > >> Recently, I was reading the Linux Mint blog which mentioned a new > >> package manager called Snap, described as a self-contained package > >> manager containing all dependencies. I checked Synaptic and > found Snapd > >> and installed it > >> > >> I used Snapd to install a new (to me) web browser called > Brave. After > >> the installation completed, I went to applications but there was no > >> listing for Brave. Not what I expected, but no big deal. > >> > >> I then did a listing of Snap packages and found Gnucash 2.6.21 > listed. > >> > >> Assuming I try to install GC using Snap, would I need to > uninstall GC > >> 2.6.17 first? > >> > >> Does anyone have experience with Snap? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Les > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists > <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists> for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.g
Re: [GNC] Snap Package Manager
Thanks for the reply Ron. FWIW, I backup everyday. If I decide to try a Snap install, I will create a new backup file with a new file name. Regards, Les On 04/16/2018 12:12 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > I have very limited experience with SNAP on Ubuntu. It's been > generally good, but not completely problem free. I have thought about > trying to create a SNAP for GnuCash 3.0, but first I'll have to get it > to build cleanly in the native environment, something has so far > eluded me. > > As I understand it, applications installed as a SNAP package are > self-contained and sandboxed. So, in theory, a SNAP of GnuCash should > install alongside an existing version from repository and never the > 'twain shall meet. > > In reality -- I don't know. But I know one way to find out... > > Backups, I think would be the order of the day if anyone is going to > pursue this. > > Ron Morse > > > On 04/16/2018 07:51 AM, Les wrote: >> Hello Everyone: >> >> I am currently running LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17 (the latest from >> getdebs.net). >> >> Recently, I was reading the Linux Mint blog which mentioned a new >> package manager called Snap, described as a self-contained package >> manager containing all dependencies. I checked Synaptic and found Snapd >> and installed it >> >> I used Snapd to install a new (to me) web browser called Brave. After >> the installation completed, I went to applications but there was no >> listing for Brave. Not what I expected, but no big deal. >> >> I then did a listing of Snap packages and found Gnucash 2.6.21 listed. >> >> Assuming I try to install GC using Snap, would I need to uninstall GC >> 2.6.17 first? >> >> Does anyone have experience with Snap? >> >> Regards, >> >> Les >> >> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Snap Package Manager
Hi: Is anyone using Snap Package manage? I installed SnapD on my Linux Mint 18.2 and tried installing an app, but after completing the installation, the app was not listed in my applications. I found GC 2.6.21 listed in Snap packages. I am currently using GC 2.6.17 (the latest from getdebs.net). I would like to upgrade but considering my experience with my attempted installation of another application, I am leery. If I try to install GC 2.6.21 using Snapd, would I need to uninstall GC 2.6.17 first? Regards, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Snap Package Manager
Hello Everyone: I am currently running LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17 (the latest from getdebs.net). Recently, I was reading the Linux Mint blog which mentioned a new package manager called Snap, described as a self-contained package manager containing all dependencies. I checked Synaptic and found Snapd and installed it I used Snapd to install a new (to me) web browser called Brave. After the installation completed, I went to applications but there was no listing for Brave. Not what I expected, but no big deal. I then did a listing of Snap packages and found Gnucash 2.6.21 listed. Assuming I try to install GC using Snap, would I need to uninstall GC 2.6.17 first? Does anyone have experience with Snap? Regards, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Alphavantge Stock Download
I am not able to download TSX stocks and currencies tonight. Anyone else having this problem? It has been very consistant for the last several weeks. Regards, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Adrien: You have hit the nail on the head! Given all the time given to this thread, I think it is high time to end it. It has been a hugh distraction from what this list is all about. Just my $.02 worth. Les On 04/11/2018 10:17 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: I think this thread also illustrates that how people hit ‘reply/reply-all’ and to which message can break threads. So far I think it has at least 5 parts. I’d have to look at the archive page to be sure. Now we’re at a point where people are replying to broken off or stalled sections of the thread. My questions were rhetorical as I noted in a later reply to him. I knew what his mail client was and what its abilities are. (I could see it in the header) My point was that if he wants to ‘filter’ his mail, he has the tools to do so and they are not difficult to use. In fact, in his reply, he noted that he does physically filter mail into some 80 folders with about 154 different filtering rules. He just doesn’t *feel* like doing it with the list. Another user seemed to imply that his mail client could not do filtering. I found excerpts (and provided links) to the manual which described specifically how to manage mailing-list mail. Perhaps he wasn’t aware of this feature. I haven’t heard back. Seriously? Everyone has to have this tag added because *some* people either don’t know how or don’t *want* to use the features of their own e-mail client? Could you imagine what GnuCash would look like if the devs treated the app the same way? If they added (or removed) features, or re-arranged the UI simply because some people don’t *feel* like using it the way it was designed and intended to be used? On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:44 AM, johnny wrote: hi On 04/10/2018 17:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote: What is your e-mail client? Can it not filter mail? Can it not tag mail? Can it not handle mailing-lists? isn't that up to each of us to decide what client to use? and how to manage our own email flows? shouldn't it be irrelevant to this discussion? or maybe this is "tech shaming" in some way to cloud the issue? (also revealing about humans that this issue generates the most traffic [although 3.0 upgrade was a big one too]) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
23. On 04/10/2018 12:40 PM, Mike Evans wrote: 22 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
This works great using Thunderbird. It is very easy to filter. Les On 04/06/2018 01:03 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: I simply filter on: from "gnucash-user" and move the mail into a folder dedicated to it. It has never failed to work. Michael On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 10:58 AM, James Triplett wrote: On (06/04/18 11:08), Steve Parry wrote: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 11:08:57 +1000 From: Steve Parry To: 'Gnucash Users' Subject: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix Reply-To: spa...@vidar.com.au Hi everyone (especially Admins). Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of the mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the option to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder. I think it's a great idea. My email client makes this Subject Prefix stand out very nicely. Yes, of course, I could design a filtering algorithm that could re-sort my mail, blah, blah, blah. But the eye does it very nicely (in my INBOX of about a thousand items, receiving about 100 per day). cheers, James (email sysadmin but newbie GC user) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Finance::Quote Yahoo_JSON Alpha Vantage
Thanks Chris! All good now (except for currencies not completing), but can live with it. Les On 04/03/2018 03:59 AM, Chris Good wrote: -Original Message- From Chris Good: ... Hi Les, Sorry you had problems following my instructions. The quickest way to reinstall the standard files over the modified files is: From a command prompt (Windows) or Terminal (Linux): cpan install Finance::Quote quit However, if you wish to tell me what your operating system is, and try to run the gnc-fq-helper command as per https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_fix_a_.22system_error.22 _or_.2 2unknown_error.22_when_getting_stock_quotes.3F and tell me the response, I will try to help you. I.e. Windows from a command prompt: cd \Program Files\gnucash\bin echo (yahoo "CSCO") | perl gnc-fq-helper Linux, from a terminal: echo '(yahoo "CSCO")' | gnc-fq-helper Regards, Chris Good From: Les Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 6:10 PM To: Chris Good ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: Finance::Quote Yahoo_JSON Alpha Vantage Sorry, Chris. I should have mentioned the OS, etc. I am running Linux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17. If I understand, all I have to to do is reinstall F::Q? Thanks, Les Hi Les, Yes reinstall Finance::Quote using the method I said. Regards, Chris Good ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Finance::Quote Yahoo_JSON Alpha Vantage
Sorry, Chris. I should have mentioned the OS, etc. I am running Linux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17. If I understand, all I have to to do is reinstall F::Q? Thanks, Les On 04/02/2018 07:00 PM, Chris Good wrote: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 17:59:28 -0500 From: Les To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: Finance::Quote Yahoo_JSON Alpha Vantage Message-ID: <2fde53e2-985e-0030-9b87-68b6f5f0f...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I followed the instructions on adding modes for quote.pm and alphavantage.pm as described.? However, I am no longer able to update any my stocks now.? I have obviously done something wrong. Is there any way to undo these modes and revert back to my previous files? Thanks. Les On 04/01/2018 08:51 PM, Chris Good wrote: Hi, I have no problems using Yahoo_JSON as a quote source for my 16 stocks for which I download prices only weekly. However, I have been working with another user and it seems Yahoo_JSON fails when there are many stocks and/or prices for them are requested often. I suggest people who run into Yahoo _JSON problems use Alpha Vantage as the quote source. See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3 F Alpha Vantage purposefully fails quote requests if it detects a user hogging their web server resources by returning an Information message that says: Please consider optimizing your API call frequency and pausing for approx. 20 seconds. If you use Alpha Vantage, there have been mods made to Finance::Quote so that usage complies with the Alpha Vantage recommendations that only 1 price request per second is made in order to ensure that the webserver resources are shared amongst all users. If the information message is detected for a particular stock (or currency conversion thanks Mike Alexander), then Finance::Quote also pauses for 20 seconds, then retries up to 4 times. As this means you should not have to retry getting prices for all stocks or currencies if you have a failure, and this will minimise usage of the Alpha Vantage web server, I suggest people install the modified perl programs. The modified Finance::Quote perl programs are currently not yet incorporated into the latest version of Finance::Quote (1.47), and as the Finance::Quote maintainers are, like everyone else, busy, it may be a long time (it has been over a year in the past) before these mods are included in the next release of Finance::Quote. To install these mods without waiting for them to be incorporated in Finance::Quote: 1. Make sure the standard Quote.pm and AlphaVantage.pm files are writable. For Windows 10 these files are usually: C:\strawberry\perl\site\lib\Finance\Quote.pm C:\strawberry\perl\site\lib\Finance\Quote\AlphaVantage.pm Using File Manager, right click on the file, Properties, Untick 'Read Only', then OK For Ubuntu Linux, these files are usually: /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote.pm /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm From a terminal: cd /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance sudo chmod 666 Quote.pm Quote/AlphaVantage.pm 2. To install the modified Quote.pm: Open https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mtalexander/finance- quote/6ee43ea08b504617 142139fda41ae45be865fa38/lib/Finance/Quote.pm in a browser, click in the code, then use Control-A to highlight it all, then paste it into a text editor (say Notepad for Windows, or gedit for Linux), then 'Save As' over the top of the existing Quote.pm. 3. To install the modified AlphaVantage.pm: Open https://github.com/mtalexander/finance- quote/blob/6ee43ea08b504617142139fda4 1ae45be865fa38/lib/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm in a browser, click in the code, then use Control-A to highlight it all, then paste it into a text editor (say Notepad for Windows, or gedit for Linux), then 'Save As' over the top of the existing AlphaVantage.pm. Sorry, I don't have a Mac so I cannot provide instructions. If you want to check on the progress of the Pull Request to incorporate these changes in Finance::Quote, please see: https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/pull/85 Regards, Chris Good Hi Les, Sorry you had problems following my instructions. The quickest way to reinstall the standard files over the modified files is: From a command prompt (Windows) or Terminal (Linux): cpan install Finance::Quote quit However, if you wish to tell me what your operating system is, and try to run the gnc-fq-helper command as per https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_fix_a_.22system_error.22_or_.2 2unknown_error.22_when_getting_stock_quotes.3F and tell me the response, I will try to help you. I.e. Windows from a command prompt: cd \Program Files\gnucash\bin echo (yahoo "CSCO") | perl gnc-fq-helper Linux, from a terminal: echo '(yahoo "CSCO")' | gnc-fq-helper Regards, Chris Good
Re: Finance::Quote Yahoo_JSON Alpha Vantage
I followed the instructions on adding modes for quote.pm and alphavantage.pm as described. However, I am no longer able to update any my stocks now. I have obviously done something wrong. Is there any way to undo these modes and revert back to my previous files? Thanks. Les On 04/01/2018 08:51 PM, Chris Good wrote: Hi, I have no problems using Yahoo_JSON as a quote source for my 16 stocks for which I download prices only weekly. However, I have been working with another user and it seems Yahoo_JSON fails when there are many stocks and/or prices for them are requested often. I suggest people who run into Yahoo _JSON problems use Alpha Vantage as the quote source. See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3F Alpha Vantage purposefully fails quote requests if it detects a user hogging their web server resources by returning an Information message that says: Please consider optimizing your API call frequency and pausing for approx. 20 seconds. If you use Alpha Vantage, there have been mods made to Finance::Quote so that usage complies with the Alpha Vantage recommendations that only 1 price request per second is made in order to ensure that the webserver resources are shared amongst all users. If the information message is detected for a particular stock (or currency conversion thanks Mike Alexander), then Finance::Quote also pauses for 20 seconds, then retries up to 4 times. As this means you should not have to retry getting prices for all stocks or currencies if you have a failure, and this will minimise usage of the Alpha Vantage web server, I suggest people install the modified perl programs. The modified Finance::Quote perl programs are currently not yet incorporated into the latest version of Finance::Quote (1.47), and as the Finance::Quote maintainers are, like everyone else, busy, it may be a long time (it has been over a year in the past) before these mods are included in the next release of Finance::Quote. To install these mods without waiting for them to be incorporated in Finance::Quote: 1. Make sure the standard Quote.pm and AlphaVantage.pm files are writable. For Windows 10 these files are usually: C:\strawberry\perl\site\lib\Finance\Quote.pm C:\strawberry\perl\site\lib\Finance\Quote\AlphaVantage.pm Using File Manager, right click on the file, Properties, Untick 'Read Only', then OK For Ubuntu Linux, these files are usually: /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote.pm /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm From a terminal: cd /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance sudo chmod 666 Quote.pm Quote/AlphaVantage.pm 2. To install the modified Quote.pm: Open https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mtalexander/finance-quote/6ee43ea08b504617 142139fda41ae45be865fa38/lib/Finance/Quote.pm in a browser, click in the code, then use Control-A to highlight it all, then paste it into a text editor (say Notepad for Windows, or gedit for Linux), then 'Save As' over the top of the existing Quote.pm. 3. To install the modified AlphaVantage.pm: Open https://github.com/mtalexander/finance-quote/blob/6ee43ea08b504617142139fda4 1ae45be865fa38/lib/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm in a browser, click in the code, then use Control-A to highlight it all, then paste it into a text editor (say Notepad for Windows, or gedit for Linux), then 'Save As' over the top of the existing AlphaVantage.pm. Sorry, I don't have a Mac so I cannot provide instructions. If you want to check on the progress of the Pull Request to incorporate these changes in Finance::Quote, please see: https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/pull/85 Regards, Chris Good ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: GnuCash 3.0 Released
Ditto! Great job! Les On 04/02/2018 04:00 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: Couldn't agree more. It's the only piece of software that I really don't think I could live without. John, Geert, and the entire development team - THANK YOU. Michael On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Tom Browder wrote: On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:49 PM, C M Reinehr wrote: John, Thanks for all your hard work. GnuCash is an invaluable piece of software. Amen, Brother! -Tom ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Next release (was Re: No suitable back-end)
:-[ Sorry, Derek. My default setting is "reply to list". I will devourer to be more careful in the future. Thanks for the information. I now have that bookmarked. Care(Les) On 03/15/2018 10:06 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: Les, On Thu, March 15, 2018 10:59 am, Les wrote: Curious, what is the timeline for the next major release of GC? Thanks, Les How does this question relate to the "no suitable back-end" question? If you are starting a new thread you should not reply to another. And you should make sure you set an appropriate title for your query. To answer your question: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule -derek On 03/15/2018 09:41 AM, Jonathan Silvey wrote: Hi, The files are there but when I click on them, I get 'No suitable back-end found ...' I can't find out on Google what a backend is and I don't know how to load a file. Can you help, please? Jonathan *Think before you print.* ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: No suitable back-end
Curious, what is the timeline for the next major release of GC? Thanks, Les On 03/15/2018 09:41 AM, Jonathan Silvey wrote: Hi, The files are there but when I click on them, I get 'No suitable back-end found ...' I can't find out on Google what a backend is and I don't know how to load a file. Can you help, please? Jonathan *Think before you print.* ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Finally ready to move from Windoze to Unix, suggestions of flavor of Unix to use
Second that, I have it running of 2 of my laptops (one for testing purposes). One thing (among many) is it is continuously being improved, every few months a newer version is released. Les On 03/15/2018 08:55 AM, Alan Whiteman wrote: My vote goes to Linux Mint. Superb distro. On 03/15/2018 06:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 15 March 2018 at 07:43, Amish wrote: Hello Try Arch Linux if you are willing to put initial efforts in learning and a bit of tweaking here and there. It is not an ideal distribution for a newbie to Linux. It is very much aimed at more advanced users. Amish Dave ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Updated Ubuntu / Mint repository
Has anyone tried this? Les On 03/06/2018 09:36 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Sweet! Very timely for me. Thanks. Regards, Adrien On Mar 6, 2018, at 6:48 PM, Plutocrat wrote: Your mileage may vary. Use at your own risk. Etc. ... but someone has produced a repo of the latest .19 release if anyone is feeling like experimenting. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash Builds for 16.04, 17.04, 17.10, and (presumably beta) 18.04 P. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Alphavantage
I have tried for several days to update stocks, currencies, etc. The last update I received for currencies was 02/13/2018 and the last update for stocks was 02/23/2018. I have an Alphavantage API key and it was added to the end of my environment file. I am on LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.7.17 (getdebs). I also have the lasted F::Q update I have set all my stocks to unknown: Alphavantage. My stocks are listed on Asx Tsx and others. My currencies are AUD, CAD, CHF, HKD, CNY, SGD, MOP, THB and USD. Any suggestions? Thanks, Les I have the same setup on the latest MacOS and GC 2.6.19. Same results. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Building 2.6.19 on Ubuntu Xenial
I have contacted the developer (maintainer) for GC on getdeb twice about when to expect an update, but there have been no replies. Maybe not active anymore? Les On 02/27/2018 09:20 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Thanks Plutocrat, I noted the same staleness of version in the original post and David Carlson noted it as well. Certainly, if people don’t mind being a release or two behind that is the simpler option. When I’m setting something up for someone else who likes *nix but isn’t tech savvy, though, I’d prefer to give them something as new as possible with fewer bugs. Had GetDeb had 2.6.19, I would have certainly taken that route. Regards, Adrien On Feb 27, 2018, at 8:56 PM, Plutocrat wrote: Sorry, a bit late in answering this, and surprised that no-one else chipped in ... but in case it helps someone in the future, you can get pretty recent versions of GnuCash for Ubuntu etc in the getdeb repository. http://www.getdeb.net/app/Gnucash Saves a lot of messing around with compilers, dependencies etc. Having said that, its usually updated pretty quickly after a release, but I now see its still on 2.6.17. Strange. P ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Problem With Current Assets
Thanks for the reply, Adrien. Yes, I tried that repeatedly but kept getting the same error message. I decided to go back to a previous GC file, opened it and my problem is now solved. I saved that file with a new name. The fix was too simple although I have done this many times in the past. Les On 02/27/2018 01:20 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Did you try putting it back in it’s original place and trying again? I’ve encountered this error before, but sadly do not recall what triggered it or how I fixed it. I think I slightly recall it had something to do with similar naming, but I could be mistaken. My instinct though would be to double check the types of each account and make sure they are correct. There might be a check against placing non-asset accounts under other asset accounts for example. Perhaps the account in question somehow is of the wrong type. Regards, Adrien On Feb 27, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Les wrote: I have a set my chart for accounts under Current Assets: Cash, then various banks etc. Today, I decided to add a sub account to Cash: Banks. In attempting to place the various banks under "Banks", one of my accounts got accidentally placed under another bank and I cannot figure out how to undo it. When I try to change the parent account I get a message "you must choose a valid parent account". I can't figure out how to correct this. Probably just brain dead. I have changed structures before without any problem. System is LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17. Any help, greatly appreciated. Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Problem With Current Assets
I have a set my chart for accounts under Current Assets: Cash, then various banks etc. Today, I decided to add a sub account to Cash: Banks. In attempting to place the various banks under "Banks", one of my accounts got accidentally placed under another bank and I cannot figure out how to undo it. When I try to change the parent account I get a message "you must choose a valid parent account". I can't figure out how to correct this. Probably just brain dead. I have changed structures before without any problem. System is LInux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17. Any help, greatly appreciated. Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Finance-Quote 1.47 Unable to retrieve Currency quotes
Thanks for the explanation Larry. Now I understand. I just don't know
why I am unable to update currency quotes since 02/13/2018. Perhaps
Alphavantage is just not robust enough to support all the users of GC
plus what they were supporting before Yahoo went south last year.
I appreciate what Erik Colson was able to put together in such a very
short time. And Alphavantage seems to be the only game in town for the
time being. All of the developers of GC need a big round of applause for
keeping GC moving forward and answering all of the questions from users.
Les
On 02/22/2018 05:29 PM, ln.mailingli...@iinet.net.au wrote:
If you take a look in the Quote.pm perl module, the currency
conversion method calls the alpha vantage CURRENCY_EXCHANGE_RATE
function. As far as I can see this is the *only* source of exchange
rate data available in Finance::Quote (at least assuming you are using
version 1.47). Given this, any setting in gnucash is unlikely to
change anything (and is probably why gnucash reverts to currency no
matter what you do - it's the one data source that binds them all when
it comes to currency).
Also see the following post from Erik Colson (FQ developer)
https://sourceforge.net/p/finance-quote/mailman/message/36112625/
And finally, if you want to prove it for yourself, run currency
conversion with and without the alpha vantage key set.
Cheers,
Larry
Maybe I am missing something but when I go to Security Editor, click
on
currencies and then select unknown and then alphavantage and save it
reverts back to single, currency. So how is the quote (when I get
one)
coming from alphavantage?
Confused,
Les
On 02/22/2018 03:09 AM, ln.mailinglists at iinet.net.au [1] wrote:
>_ Hi Richard, _
>_ It's definitely alphavantage for currency - you can check the data
URL _
>_ early in the Quote.pm module. _
>_ I'd agree with Adriano's assessment that the problem is server
side. _
>_ I did a test this morning where I repeatedly requested quotes from
_
>_ gnucash - the first four attempts sucessfully grabbed all of my
stock _
>_ values but failed on USD/AUD exchange rates, while the fifth test
got _
>_ everything. _
>
>_ Cheers, _
>_ Larry _
>
>_ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:24:25 + _
>_ From: Richard Morris _
>_ To: Adriano Baldi _
>_ Cc: gnucash-user _
>_ Subject: Re: Finance-Quote 1.47 Unable to retrieve Currency quotes
_
>_ Message-ID: _
>
>_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" _
>_ But I wonder - does GNUCash use alphavantage for currencies? _
>_ I see this: _
>_ "There are 3 types of sources of which the first - currency - is _
>_ hardcoded _
>_ and responsible to fetch ISO currencies. The other two can be
selected _
>_ in _
>_ the security editor." _
>_ https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/apas01.html [2] _
>_ I'm still having the issue with currencies. How about you Adriano?
_
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Re: Finance-Quote 1.47 Unable to retrieve Currency quotes
I forgot to add that the last update I received for currencies (all 9 of them) was 02/13/2018. On 02/22/2018 03:09 AM, ln.mailingli...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Richard, It's definitely alphavantage for currency - you can check the data URL early in the Quote.pm module. I'd agree with Adriano's assessment that the problem is server side. I did a test this morning where I repeatedly requested quotes from gnucash - the first four attempts sucessfully grabbed all of my stock values but failed on USD/AUD exchange rates, while the fifth test got everything. Cheers, Larry Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:24:25 + From: Richard Morris To: Adriano Baldi Cc: gnucash-user Subject: Re: Finance-Quote 1.47 Unable to retrieve Currency quotes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" But I wonder - does GNUCash use alphavantage for currencies? I see this: "There are 3 types of sources of which the first - currency - is hardcoded and responsible to fetch ISO currencies. The other two can be selected in the security editor." https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/apas01.html I'm still having the issue with currencies. How about you Adriano? And isn't it odd that gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR (for example) works? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Finance-Quote 1.47 Unable to retrieve Currency quotes
Maybe I am missing something but when I go to Security Editor, click on currencies and then select unknown and then alphavantage and save it reverts back to single, currency. So how is the quote (when I get one) coming from alphavantage? Confused, Les On 02/22/2018 03:09 AM, ln.mailingli...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Richard, It's definitely alphavantage for currency - you can check the data URL early in the Quote.pm module. I'd agree with Adriano's assessment that the problem is server side. I did a test this morning where I repeatedly requested quotes from gnucash - the first four attempts sucessfully grabbed all of my stock values but failed on USD/AUD exchange rates, while the fifth test got everything. Cheers, Larry Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:24:25 + From: Richard Morris To: Adriano Baldi Cc: gnucash-user Subject: Re: Finance-Quote 1.47 Unable to retrieve Currency quotes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" But I wonder - does GNUCash use alphavantage for currencies? I see this: "There are 3 types of sources of which the first - currency - is hardcoded and responsible to fetch ISO currencies. The other two can be selected in the security editor." https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/apas01.html I'm still having the issue with currencies. How about you Adriano? And isn't it odd that gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR (for example) works? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Stock Spin-Out
Thanks Tommy for your input. There was not any information on either the spun-out company or the company that did the spin-out. (both companies are Canadian stocks.) I have sent email to both companies to determine my basis. On 02/21/2018 11:59 AM, Tommy Trussell wrote: On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:02 PM, nvsoar wrote: Comment: It seems to me that a zero cost for the spun off shares is incorrect if a non-zero basis exists for the pre-spin off shares. A zero cost for the new shares will result in a higher than necessary capital gain when those shares are sold. The easiest way to determine the new basis for each of the remaining entities that I have found is to use the cost basis calculator at the link previously provided. nvsoar Usually here in the US, when a company announces a stock spin-off, the existing shareholders are provided a passel of materials, some of which include a determination by a tax attorney or the IRS describing how to calculate the basis of the spun-off shares. You can usually find the information at the spun-off company's web site (look for a link for "investor information") or as a document available from the company's stock transfer agent. I can imagine that sometimes such information may not be finalized at the time of spin-off, especially if the IRS objects to some part of it, but my impression is that these things are almost always pretty much settled before the time they occur because there's lots of money involved. And nobody wants any uncertainty when there's lots of money involved... - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: New File Won't Open
Sorry, I am used to using Linux and forget about Mac. Thanks for the reply. Les On 02/21/2018 09:23 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: Hi, On Wed, February 21, 2018 10:12 am, Les wrote: I right click on the new file to open. Like I said below -- that does not work on the Mac. GnuCash will always open the last-used file. You need to use GnuCash's File -> Open to open your new file. -derek On 02/21/2018 08:59 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: HI, On Wed, February 21, 2018 9:44 am, Les wrote: I created a new GC file for my Mac. When I try to open the new file, it reverts back the previous file. How to correct this problem? How are you trying to open the new file? On a Mac you cannot double-click a file -- GnuCash does not handle the Apple Open intent and will always open the last-opened file on a Mac. So on a Mac you MUST use File->Open from the menu to select your data file. Thanks, Les -derek Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: New File Won't Open
I right click on the new file to open. On 02/21/2018 08:59 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: HI, On Wed, February 21, 2018 9:44 am, Les wrote: I created a new GC file for my Mac. When I try to open the new file, it reverts back the previous file. How to correct this problem? How are you trying to open the new file? On a Mac you cannot double-click a file -- GnuCash does not handle the Apple Open intent and will always open the last-opened file on a Mac. So on a Mac you MUST use File->Open from the menu to select your data file. Thanks, Les -derek Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
New File Won't Open
I created a new GC file for my Mac. When I try to open the new file, it reverts back the previous file. How to correct this problem? Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Stock Spin-Out
There is a stock-split function in GC. However it doesn't appear to do
spin-outs. In my case, the company doing the spin-out is doing a 5 to 1
and there are no fractional shares. I just assigned the cost at 0.00 per
share.
Les
On 02/20/2018 01:27 PM, David Carlson wrote:
Les,
Usually a stock spin-off splits the before spin-off cost basis between
the after spin-off stocks according to documents provided by the
parent corporation to the SEC and shareholders which also explain how
details such as fractional shares and various expenses are to be treated.
The worksheet that nvsoar provided the link to helps with calculating
details.
I thought that there was also a stock split assistant built into
GnuCash to construct the transactions. Check the help or tutorial
manual s for that.
David C
On Feb 20, 2018 9:57 AM, "Les" <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for both replies. I used a zero price and the number of
shares with a description. (John's procedure) But I was not sure
if the procedure I used was correct (best).
Regards,
Les
On 02/19/2018 05:47 PM, nvsoar wrote:
On 02/19/18 15:25, John Coppock wrote:
This is what I have been doing. I am new to Gnu Cash.
I'm using Gnu Cash v.2.6.17 on Windows 10 in US dollars.
In 'Tools/Security Editor', create the new spin-off security.
In your brokerage account, create a new sub-account for
the new spin-off security. Its Account Type will be stock
(do this first), currency will be shares of the security
you just created. If you don't see it show up after you
created it, go to 'View/Filter by/Other' to show accounts
with zero totals,
In the new sub-account (tab between fields), enter the
date of the spin-off, a description, on the next line
choose 'Buy' for 'Action', enter the shares received in
'Shares', delete the value in 'Price', enter the basis of
the shares received in 'Buy', on the next line enter the
name of the parent Stock account, enter 0 for 'Shares',
delete the value in 'Price', verify the value in 'Buy' is
the same as the basis entered before, hit enter and you're
done.
I've found this seems to handle the basis change for both
stocks.
On 2/19/2018 1:37 PM, Les wrote:
I recently had a stock that owned a significant part
of a rather new company and decided to spin it out at
a 5 to 1 rate. Can someone please explain how to do
this in GC?
Thanks,
Les
FWIW - Here is a resource for dealing with spin-off basis
transactions -
http://www.costbasistools.com/spinoff/calculator.php
<http://www.costbasistools.com/spinoff/calculator.php>
nvsoar
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Re: Stock Spin-Out
Thanks for both replies. I used a zero price and the number of shares with a description. (John's procedure) But I was not sure if the procedure I used was correct (best). Regards, Les On 02/19/2018 05:47 PM, nvsoar wrote: On 02/19/18 15:25, John Coppock wrote: This is what I have been doing. I am new to Gnu Cash. I'm using Gnu Cash v.2.6.17 on Windows 10 in US dollars. In 'Tools/Security Editor', create the new spin-off security. In your brokerage account, create a new sub-account for the new spin-off security. Its Account Type will be stock (do this first), currency will be shares of the security you just created. If you don't see it show up after you created it, go to 'View/Filter by/Other' to show accounts with zero totals, In the new sub-account (tab between fields), enter the date of the spin-off, a description, on the next line choose 'Buy' for 'Action', enter the shares received in 'Shares', delete the value in 'Price', enter the basis of the shares received in 'Buy', on the next line enter the name of the parent Stock account, enter 0 for 'Shares', delete the value in 'Price', verify the value in 'Buy' is the same as the basis entered before, hit enter and you're done. I've found this seems to handle the basis change for both stocks. On 2/19/2018 1:37 PM, Les wrote: I recently had a stock that owned a significant part of a rather new company and decided to spin it out at a 5 to 1 rate. Can someone please explain how to do this in GC? Thanks, Les FWIW - Here is a resource for dealing with spin-off basis transactions - http://www.costbasistools.com/spinoff/calculator.php nvsoar ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
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Re: Online quotes fetching latest stock price but incorrect date; currency exchange rate also not working
Yet maybe another reason to end the absurd daylight saving time which does not save anything. On 02/19/2018 05:02 AM, Justin Smith wrote: Hi Justin, I've been chasing this issue for a couple of weeks - I'm pretty sure this is an ASX specific problem. Unfortunately, I think the problem lies in the alpha vantage data source - we're going to need to chase up with them to sort a fix, and may then need an update to Finance::Quote as well. Alternatively, we need to fix ASX.pm (per my previous post on this issue). Here's what I've found to date: 1) Finance::Quote pulls data from alphavantage using an address of the form: https://www.alphavantage.co/query?function=TIME_SERIES_DAILY&symbol=TLS.AX&apikey=* (You can test this directly with your own api key) From the comments in the Perl alphavantage module, this data set includes date and time data *if* the market is open. Otherwise it only returns date data only. The perl module removes the time data and returns the date data. 2) As you have observed (and as can be seen from the above link), the date returned by alpha vantage for normal ASX stocks is *early* by 1 day - for example, the data set I ran on Sunday 19th returned correct prices for Monday 12th through Friday 16th, but assigned these to Sunday 11th through Thursday 15th. 3) I don't believe this can be corrected by timezone shifts - I suspect that because the alpha vantage module does not return a time, the perl will (reasonably) assume that the alphavantage data is returned at mid-night (i.e. if alpha vantage returns 12/2/2018, then perl/gnucash will treat this as 12/2/2018 00:00 for the purposes of time zone calcs). If this is the case, it doesn't matter what time zone shift you apply, it won't change the date. I ran a set of test on this in gnucash, and couldn't make the date change no matter what time zone I chose (I'm on East Coast Australian time). 4) ETFs and possibly managed funds in general are updated later, and just the at the moment these get the correct date. e.g. https://www.alphavantage.co/query?function=TIME_SERIES_DAILY&symbol=VAS.AX&apikey=* Further notes on this - a) from comments elsewhere on the net, it looks as though ETFs/managed funds are only updated once per day, and b) weird things happen to this data on the weekend - e.g. VAS has correct price information for Friday 16th, but the next available data point is 4th Feb. This anomaly gets corrected at the start of the week (don't think this matters for Gnucash use). 5) I'm having the same problem with USD currency rates. Maybe a change in the API or the constants for AUD/USD. I haven't looked into the code for this yet. 6) All this may change when daylight saving changes here and/or in the US - right at the moment, the ASX is closing spot on midnight East Coast US time (alpha vantage reference time zone) - our data may suddenly start working correctly when daylight saving changes. So something else to watch for over the next few weeks. At this stage, I have only spent time running the problem down - I haven't had time to think about a fix. Cheers, Larry Thanks Larry. That's great info. After reading your email I did two tests today (same gnc-fq-dump alphavantage NAB.AX command): * Run at 8.00am 19 Feb Perth time (7.00pm 18 Feb New York). ASX open. Returns $29.36 with a date of 18 Feb. This price is actually spot on - assuming a 20min delay on quotes, which most free services quoting the ASX have. But of course the date is wrong. * Run at 6.30pm 19 Feb Perth time (5.30am 19 Feb New York). ASX closed. Returns $29.46 with a date of 18 Feb. This is the correct closing price. But wrong date as expected. It suggests that simply adding one to the date would fix the issue. But you're right that we need to test the daylight saving changes. And no doubt there will different dates in NY and Sydney... Cheers, Justin. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Online quotes fetching latest stock price but incorrect date; currency exchange rate also not working
I have the exact same problem with ASX stocks: overwriting previous entries and incorrect dates. Les On 02/17/2018 08:10 PM, Justin Smith wrote: Hi, Gnucash is not updating stock quotes correctly for me. The stock price is correct but an incorrect date is used. This is confirmed when testing using gnc-fq-dump. E.g. ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY= gnc-fq-dump alphavantage NAB.AX Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: NAB.AX <=== required date: 02/15/2018 <=== recommended currency: AUD <=== required last: 29.2200 <=\ nav: <=== one of these price: <=/ timezone: <=== optional Today's date is Feb 18. The price is actually the closing price for last Fri 16 Feb. Gnucash then overwrites the historical price for Feb 15, with the price for Feb 16. This happens for all my ASX stocks. At the same time, Gnucash is also consistently returning the error "Unable to retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:USD". This sounds unrelated if it wasn't for the fact that it started happening at the same time as the above date issue... I am running GnuCash 2.6.17 on Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty (PPA). And Finance::Quote 1.48 (installed from git). Any ideas? Thanks, Justin. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Online quotes fetching latest stock price but incorrect date; currency exchange rate also not working
I had mine set for "local time", so I changed it to Australia/Sydney time. I will check results on Monday. Thanks John. Les On 02/17/2018 10:03 PM, John Ralls wrote: And by “operating system’s time zone is correct” he means “in Australia” (or Asia somewhere), because if you’re in America then the closing price really is from the 15th. Regards, John Ralls On Feb 17, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: I guess the first step is to verify that the system time and date is correct and the operating system's time zone setting is correct. RBM On 02/17/2018 07:10 PM, Justin Smith wrote: Hi, Gnucash is not updating stock quotes correctly for me. The stock price is correct but an incorrect date is used. This is confirmed when testing using gnc-fq-dump. E.g. ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY= gnc-fq-dump alphavantage NAB.AX Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: NAB.AX <=== required date: 02/15/2018 <=== recommended currency: AUD <=== required last: 29.2200 <=\ nav: <=== one of these price: <=/ timezone: <=== optional Today's date is Feb 18. The price is actually the closing price for last Fri 16 Feb. Gnucash then overwrites the historical price for Feb 15, with the price for Feb 16. This happens for all my ASX stocks. At the same time, Gnucash is also consistently returning the error "Unable to retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:USD". This sounds unrelated if it wasn't for the fact that it started happening at the same time as the above date issue... I am running GnuCash 2.6.17 on Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty (PPA). And Finance::Quote 1.48 (installed from git). Any ideas? Thanks, Justin. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Trading Accounts
Thanks, that is what my test file indicates. I am adding Trading Accounts to my production GC file. Les On 02/13/2018 02:59 AM, Wm via gnucash-user wrote: On 12/02/2018 17:12, Les wrote: I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD. I buy in tranches for average cost. So, not sure that means I have complicated trades but I make sure I never have any orphan accounts. I checked my test file for capital and it did not list any. Although, at the bottom of my accounts list, there is a list of currencies and exchanges with totals for each. But, again, there isn't any difference in income and expenses. Trading Accounts may well help you given the mix of currencies. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Trading Accounts
Good advice David. I have always just used my broker reports for tax purposes. I guess I never really relied on GC for such reporting. I use GC to keep track of my day-to-day transactions; inputing from paper receipts as I receive them. Also reconciling bank and brokerage accounts at month end. Les On 02/12/2018 08:27 PM, David Carlson wrote: Be sure to compare what Gnucash generates to what your broker reports to the government. Gnucash has trouble calculating the net gain that the IRS wants to see. Many of us still use spreadsheet s to compare to the brokerage reports that are sent to the IRS. David C On Feb 12, 2018 2:27 PM, "Les" <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: I ran a balance sheet for 2016 and compared the two. Everything looks the same until I reach the equity account. Here is where the difference occurs (and I completely missed it initially). In the GC file without the use of Trading Accounts, I have unrealized gains, whereas in the GC file using Trading Accounts, I have trading gains. I think I need to start using Trading Accounts, if I want to obtain a more accurate set of accounts. For what it is worth, I have been relying on my brokerage accounts to determine gains and losses for tax purposes. I am thinking about copying my production GC file to my test computer and run balance sheet and income and expense for ye 2017 and compare. I think it will be significant. Les p.s.: I did read the the link from Christopher. On 02/12/2018 12:05 PM, David Carlson wrote: If you read Christopher's links, they go into the theory behind the development of trading accounts. I personally do not need them for my use, so I am not conversant with how they work. I think that you may need them, based on the fact that you are looking into using them, but I cannot help with details. Perhaps another user that does use them can chime in (hint Hint) David C On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Les mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD. I buy in tranches for average cost. So, not sure that means I have complicated trades but I make sure I never have any orphan accounts. I checked my test file for capital and it did not list any. Although, at the bottom of my accounts list, there is a list of currencies and exchanges with totals for each. But, again, there isn't any difference in income and expenses. Les On 02/12/2018 08:18 AM, David Carlson wrote: UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited from my clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition skills. I think that if you have always correctly calculated every capital gain in every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously matched lots there will not be any overall difference with or without trading accounts. I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more complicated trades. I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital gains and incomes in closing transactions to see where the T A could make a difference. David C On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam" mailto:christopher@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Les Really interesting question, with a simple and a complicated answer. Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you deal with multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions with differing dates and prices). Complicated answer: https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html <https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/%7Eselinger/accounting/tutorial.html> https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html <https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/%7Eselinger/accounting/gnucash.html> C On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote: I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint. I opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted the totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after. There was no difference. I then ran a Income and Expense report for year 2016 (which is the same as my production GC and
Re: Trading Accounts
I ran a balance sheet for 2016 and compared the two. Everything looks
the same until I reach the equity account. Here is where the difference
occurs (and I completely missed it initially). In the GC file without
the use of Trading Accounts, I have unrealized gains, whereas in the GC
file using Trading Accounts, I have trading gains.
I think I need to start using Trading Accounts, if I want to obtain a
more accurate set of accounts.
For what it is worth, I have been relying on my brokerage accounts to
determine gains and losses for tax purposes.
I am thinking about copying my production GC file to my test computer
and run balance sheet and income and expense for ye 2017 and compare. I
think it will be significant.
Les
p.s.: I did read the the link from Christopher.
On 02/12/2018 12:05 PM, David Carlson wrote:
If you read Christopher's links, they go into the theory behind the
development of trading accounts.
I personally do not need them for my use, so I am not conversant with
how they work.
I think that you may need them, based on the fact that you are looking
into using them, but I cannot help with details.
Perhaps another user that does use them can chime in (hint Hint)
David C
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD. I buy in
tranches for average cost. So, not sure that means I have
complicated trades but I make sure I never have any orphan
accounts. I checked my test file for capital and it did not list
any. Although, at the bottom of my accounts list, there is a list
of currencies and exchanges with totals for each. But, again,
there isn't any difference in income and expenses.
Les
On 02/12/2018 08:18 AM, David Carlson wrote:
UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited
from my
clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition
skills.
I think that if you have always correctly calculated every
capital gain in
every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously
matched lots there
will not be any overall difference with or without trading
accounts.
I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more
complicated trades.
I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital
gains and
incomes in closing transactions to see where the T A could make a
difference.
David C
On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam"
mailto:christopher@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Hi Les
Really interesting question, with a simple and a
complicated answer.
Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you
deal with
multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions
with differing
dates and prices).
Complicated answer:
https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
<https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/%7Eselinger/accounting/tutorial.html>
https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html
<https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/%7Eselinger/accounting/gnucash.html>
C
On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the
latest Linux Mint. I
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check
and repair, noted the
totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense
before and after. There
was no difference. I then ran a Income and Expense
report for year 2016
(which is the same as my production GC and compared
the two. Again there
was no difference in totals between the two GC files.
So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I
noticed that when
viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view,
there are added lines
showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and
stock symbol, that
does not appear without trading accounts.
Thanks,
Les
On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:
It would be more fun to make a test copy of an
existing file! 😁
David C
On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les"
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>>>
wrote:
Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your
r
Re: Trading Accounts
I use, in addition to USD. AUD, HKD, CAD, CNY and SGD. I buy in
tranches for average cost. So, not sure that means I have complicated
trades but I make sure I never have any orphan accounts. I checked my
test file for capital and it did not list any. Although, at the bottom
of my accounts list, there is a list of currencies and exchanges with
totals for each. But, again, there isn't any difference in income and
expenses.
Les
On 02/12/2018 08:18 AM, David Carlson wrote:
UnfOrtumately I cannot read the article that zchristofer cited from my
clunky Tablet ant tablet really messes up mystery composition skills.
I think that if you have always correctly calculated every capital gain in
every closing transaction and never had any ambiguously matched lots there
will not be any overall difference with or without trading accounts.
I would guess trading accounts help the most for users with more
complicated trades.
I am sure that you would need to drill down to the capital gains and
incomes in closing transactions to see where the T A could make a
difference.
David C
On Feb 12, 2018 6:53 AM, "Christopher Lam"
wrote:
Hi Les
Really interesting question, with a simple and a complicated answer.
Simple answer: I think Trial Balance would differ if you deal with
multiple currencies or stock (i.e. multiple conversions with differing
dates and prices).
Complicated answer:
https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html
C
On 12/02/18 20:41, Les wrote:
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint. I
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted the
totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after. There
was no difference. I then ran a Income and Expense report for year 2016
(which is the same as my production GC and compared the two. Again there
was no difference in totals between the two GC files.
So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that when
viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are added lines
showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and stock symbol, that
does not appear without trading accounts.
Thanks,
Les
On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:
It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁
David C
On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" > wrote:
Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies. I think
opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.
Regards,
Les
On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:
And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
add the needed splits to existing transactions.
Gruß,
Christoph
Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>:
I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
it is difficult to
turn them off.
I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
whether you like
them.
David C
On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
accounts) as needed to your
current file.
Regards,
Adrien
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
I have been using GC for several years, and
although I trade stocks, I
have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.
Can I just start using
it,
or would I need to start a new GC file?
Thanks,
Les
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Re: Trading Accounts
I have a "test" laptop with GC 2.6.17 running the latest Linux Mint. I
opened GC and tried using Trading Accounts, did check and repair, noted
the totals of assets, liabilities, income and expense before and after.
There was no difference. I then ran a Income and Expense report for
year 2016 (which is the same as my production GC and compared the two.
Again there was no difference in totals between the two GC files.
So, exactly what does Trading Accounts actually do? I noticed that when
viewing a stock transaction using auto-split view, there are added lines
showing trading: currencies and trading: exchange and stock symbol, that
does not appear without trading accounts.
Thanks,
Les
On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:
It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁
David C
On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies. I think
opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.
Regards,
Les
On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:
And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
add the needed splits to existing transactions.
Gruß,
Christoph
Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>:
I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
it is difficult to
turn them off.
I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
whether you like
them.
David C
On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
accounts) as needed to your
current file.
Regards,
Adrien
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have been using GC for several years, and
although I trade stocks, I
have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.
Can I just start using
it,
or would I need to start a new GC file?
Thanks,
Les
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Re: Trading Accounts
That is what I have in mind.
On 02/12/2018 04:41 AM, David Carlson wrote:
It would be more fun to make a test copy of an existing file! 😁
David C
On Feb 12, 2018 4:13 AM, "Les" <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies. I think
opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea.
Regards,
Les
On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote:
And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to
add the needed splits to existing transactions.
Gruß,
Christoph
Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com>>:
I think that if you want to stop using trading account s
it is difficult to
turn them off.
I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide
whether you like
them.
David C
On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone"
mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other
accounts) as needed to your
current file.
Regards,
Adrien
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les
mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have been using GC for several years, and
although I trade stocks, I
have never used the "Trading Accounts" option.
Can I just start using
it,
or would I need to start a new GC file?
Thanks,
Les
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Re: Trading Accounts
Thanks, Adrien, David & Christoph for your replies. I think opening a new GC file and testing Trading Accounts is a good idea. Regards, Les On 02/12/2018 01:40 AM, Christoph R wrote: And run “Actions -> Check & Repair -> Check & Repair All” to add the needed splits to existing transactions. Gruß, Christoph Am 12.02.2018 um 01:27 schrieb David Carlson : I think that if you want to stop using trading account s it is difficult to turn them off. I would set up a test file to try them on until you decide whether you like them. David C On Feb 11, 2018 5:39 PM, "Adrien Monteleone" wrote: Yes, you can add trading accounts (or any other accounts) as needed to your current file. Regards, Adrien On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Les wrote: I have been using GC for several years, and although I trade stocks, I have never used the "Trading Accounts" option. Can I just start using it, or would I need to start a new GC file? Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Trading Accounts
I have been using GC for several years, and although I trade stocks, I have never used the "Trading Accounts" option. Can I just start using it, or would I need to start a new GC file? Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Currency Issue
I know this has been discussed in the past: I have a foreign bank account, denominated in the local currency. Within this account, I also hold other currencies. However, the other currencies, instead of relating to the local currency, is relating to my native currency: USD. This greatly distorts the total value of my foreign bank balance. This is a problem because I have to report the year end value of all foreign accounts over $1.00 and one over $5.00 (individual). Is there ever going to be a resolution to this problem? Suggestions? Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Thank You!
I would like to give a great big Thanks to all the people that help us all with issues and the users that also contribute. I do not know how you can be so patient when you ask the same questions day in and day out, but I marvel at your persistence. At any rate, I have been meaning to do this for some time and thought the 1st day of a new year would be the time. You guys rock! Regards, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Gnucash on Linux Mint
Thanks David. I am very familiar building an app, but when you go down that path, there is no upgrade, so you are sort of locked into that method. In the past, I have gotten bogged down with dependencies, but like you stated, can be handled with apt. A long time ago, I used Gentoo. Being lazy, I will just wait for the next getdeb update. :-) Les On 12/22/2017 12:45 AM, DaveC49 wrote: Hi Les, The Linux Mint Software manager version is usually 1-2 releases behind the latest release of Gnucash. getDeb is sometimes a bit more up to date. Unless there are specific features/fixes in the latest release that you need then 2.6.17 which is the current LM version should be OK. If not, it is not too hard to build on Linux Mint using the instructions at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building#Ubuntu_16.04_LTS_.28Xenial_Xerus.29. If you aren't familiar with cmake use the Autotools build. I usually run ..gnucash/configure setting the --prefix option to /usr/local/bin rather than /opt/gnucash or /opt/gnucash-devel until it reports no errors, installing any packages it reports it needs as errors that are not already installed. There is a list of dependencies in the README.dependencies files and most can be installed directly with apt before running the ..gnucash/configure. - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Gnucash on Linux Mint
That was my conclusion as well. Les On 12/18/2017 08:11 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Robert Heller <mailto:hel...@deepsoft.com>> wrote: At Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:50:29 -0600 Les mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I have been using Linux Mint Mate for several years, updating with each > incremental release. Currently at 18.2, planning to upgrade to 18.3 > shortly. I get a .deb package from getdeb.net <http://getdeb.net>. The latest is 2.6.17 > which has not been updated for some time. > > Is any Linux Mint users finding newer packages anywhere. I would like > to update to the last 2.6.19. You will likely have to download the source and build it yourself. You could ask the distro maintainers if they will be pushing a newer version into the repo. A couple of years ago, when I was learning how to test GnuCash packages for inclusion in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, I had some email exchanges with a volunteer at getdeb.net <http://getdeb.net>, and he encouraged me to help them test GnuCash getdeb packages, implying they would get into getdeb.net <http://getdeb.net> much quicker that way. I found the process to be fairly easy, though they use a build environment different from the official Ubuntu process so I got bogged down trying to understand the technical differences (and my focus at the time was making sure the LTS package was good). Other projects have distracted me since then, I'm sorry to say. In any case, if you find yourself dependent upon getdeb.net <http://getdeb.net>, consider sending them a monetary donation to pay for bandwidth, and also consider contacting them to see if you can help keep your favorite package(s) updated. I believe it's a very small organization, but in my experience they respond well to kind messages. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Gnucash on Linux Mint
Thank you. Les On 12/18/2017 05:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote: At Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:50:29 -0600 Les wrote: I have been using Linux Mint Mate for several years, updating with each incremental release. Currently at 18.2, planning to upgrade to 18.3 shortly. I get a .deb package from getdeb.net. The latest is 2.6.17 which has not been updated for some time. Is any Linux Mint users finding newer packages anywhere. I would like to update to the last 2.6.19. You will likely have to download the source and build it yourself. You could ask the distro maintainers if they will be pushing a newer version into the repo. Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Gnucash on Linux Mint
I have been using Linux Mint Mate for several years, updating with each incremental release. Currently at 18.2, planning to upgrade to 18.3 shortly. I get a .deb package from getdeb.net. The latest is 2.6.17 which has not been updated for some time. Is any Linux Mint users finding newer packages anywhere. I would like to update to the last 2.6.19. Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
More F:Q Issues
First, I had an upgrade of Perl to 5.22.1. Not sure if that is what caused my Linux Get Quotes to just stop without any message. Perl on Mac is still at 5.18. Second, I just checked currencies in Security Editor. Over the weekend, I changed the 9 currencies I use to use Alphavantage. When I checked today, all the currencies what reverted to "Single". I tried to change them back to Alphavantage but as soon as I had made the change, they reverted back to "Single". This is also true of my Mac. Third, I have no clue (nor any way to check) why Get Quotes on my Mac stopped with a message that retrieval encountered an unknown error. Any suggestions as to how to fix these issues would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
F::Q
I attempted to download quotes today (the first opportunity since adding Alphavantage as source). My Mac died in progress with a message of unknown error. My Linux Mint 18.2 just stopped without completing (no message). However, my 2 ASX stocks ended up being priced in USD which resulted in the 2 stocks having values of over $2 million, instead of being less than A$400.00. I tried correcting this error in Price Editor but it did not change. I ended up reverting to my previous save. So, no joy. I hope others had better results. I am not sure how to proceed at this point. Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: gnucash 2.6.18
I upgraded MacOS over the weekend and "had" to upgrade GC to 2.16.18 because 2.6.17 would not open. I understand the upgraded of Mac changed to a different file system (APFS). Les On 11/13/2017 11:40 AM, Chris Tsuji wrote: Hi I have upgrade Mac OS 10.13.1 and was wondering if there is a problem with 2.6.18 with this operating system. Thanks in advance. Chris Tsuji ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Alphavantage quotes working through F::Q, not through Gnucash
After the release of F:Q 1.47, I was able to update to in on my LInux Mint 18.2 and now I am able to update stocks and currencies via Price Editor's Get Quotes! Now waiting for F:Q 1.47 to migrate to my Mac where running the script I get FQ is up to date at 1.45. Three chears for Eric! On 11/12/2017 11:24 AM, D wrote: Ok. In terminal, have you set ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEYusing an export command? That must be set *in the terminal session* in order to retrieve quotes in terminal. David On November 12, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Les wrote: >Yes, that is the path I used. In the terminal, I changed to the path >you indicated and now that part works but does not return any useful >data (No price quote, date or currency). >But progress just the same. Thanks David. >On 11/12/2017 08:33 AM, David T. wrote: >> I’ll assume that you mean /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/environment (note the lower case ‘e’; case matters in MacOS). If not, then that will be the problem. >> >> To run gnc-fq-dump, you need to be in /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin >> >> David >> >>> On Nov 12, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Les wrote: >>> >>> I added Alphavantage API key to the end of /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/Environment, which is where I was informed it needed to be. Is this no correct? >>> >>> As for command line, I have tried running changing directories to /Applications/Gnucash.app . >>> >>> >>> On 11/12/2017 07:30 AM, David T. wrote: >>>> My question to both Les and Robert is *which* environment file have you updated? ~/.bash_profile, or /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gnucash/environment? >>>> >>>> F::Q will not work in the Mac bundle with Alphavantage if you modify ...bash_profile (but will work at the command line), and vice versa. >>>> >>>> Les, also, from what folder are you trying to run gnc-fq-dump? You need to be inside the Gnucash bundle for it to work. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 12, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Les wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have had GC installed on my Mac for a very long time, and until Yahoo pulled the plug everything worked great! So, I would have to believe that Perl is already in the path. The only changes I have made were to add the Alphavantage key to the end of the environment file and updating GC to 2.6.18 after upgrading MacOS to 10.13. >>>>> >>>>> But I will check since I don't recall ever running F:Q in the terminal before. How would I check the path? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> On 11/12/2017 06:21 AM, Michael Fross wrote: >>>>>> One thing to check is that perl is in the path so GNC can find the executable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 6:09 AM Dave H <mailto:hell...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Les, >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried running it with the -v (verbose) option to get a >>>>>> bit more >>>>>> information back ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Running F:Q directly in Terminal works OK on MacOS 10.13 here but only >>>>>> after I first issue a "export ALPHAVANTAGE_AKI_KEY=" >>>>>> command so you might find that's what is needed when running it >>>>>> directly. >>>>>> Remember the environment file you added the key to is used by >>>>>> GnuCash and >>>>>> presumably passes the api key into F::Q so if you run F:Q directly >>>>>> you have >>>>>> to let it know what your api key is ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers Dave H. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12 November 2017 at 20:28, Les >>>>> <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > When I run the same command from my Linux Mint 18.2 I get >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: >>>>>> > symbol: NYSE:TGT (deduced) <=== required >>>>>> > date: ** missing ** <=== recommended >>>>>> > currency: ** missing ** <=== required >>>>>> > last:
Re: Alphavantage quotes working through F::Q, not through Gnucash
Ok, that works. Thanks!! On 11/12/2017 08:43 AM, David Reiser wrote: If gnucash is even letting you punch the “Get Quotes” button, it thinks both perl and finance-quote are installed correctly. If the environment file you edited is /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gnucash/environment then it looks to me like you only need the ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY= form of the command instead of ‘export ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY=’ And you have relaunched gnucash since editing the environment file? Environment files only get automatically read once per process lifetime. If you want to try manually, open the terminal app and type [copy and paste works as long as you leave out the leading $]: $export ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY=zzz $/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-dump alphavantage TGT Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: TGT <=== required date: 11/10/2017 <=== recommended currency: USD <=== required last: 61.4000 <=\ nav: <=== one of these price: <=/ timezone: <=== optional the ‘$’ is displayed by the Terminal app, not something you type. Note that your API key is now available for as long as this particular terminal window is open, you don’t have to reenter it to try other ticker symbols Using the Up Arrow on the keyboard at a ‘$’ prompt reenters the last command (without executing) so you can just edit the ticker symbol without having to retype the whole command. -- Dave Reiser dbrei...@icloud.com <mailto:dbrei...@icloud.com> On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: I added Alphavantage API key to the end of /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/Environment, which is where I was informed it needed to be. Is this no correct? As for command line, I have tried running changing directories to /Applications/Gnucash.app . ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Alphavantage quotes working through F::Q, not through Gnucash
Yes, that is the path I used. In the terminal, I changed to the path you indicated and now that part works but does not return any useful data (No price quote, date or currency). But progress just the same. Thanks David. On 11/12/2017 08:33 AM, David T. wrote: I’ll assume that you mean /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/environment (note the lower case ‘e’; case matters in MacOS). If not, then that will be the problem. To run gnc-fq-dump, you need to be in /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin David On Nov 12, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Les wrote: I added Alphavantage API key to the end of /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/Environment, which is where I was informed it needed to be. Is this no correct? As for command line, I have tried running changing directories to /Applications/Gnucash.app . On 11/12/2017 07:30 AM, David T. wrote: My question to both Les and Robert is *which* environment file have you updated? ~/.bash_profile, or /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gnucash/environment? F::Q will not work in the Mac bundle with Alphavantage if you modify ...bash_profile (but will work at the command line), and vice versa. Les, also, from what folder are you trying to run gnc-fq-dump? You need to be inside the Gnucash bundle for it to work. David On Nov 12, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Les wrote: I have had GC installed on my Mac for a very long time, and until Yahoo pulled the plug everything worked great! So, I would have to believe that Perl is already in the path. The only changes I have made were to add the Alphavantage key to the end of the environment file and updating GC to 2.6.18 after upgrading MacOS to 10.13. But I will check since I don't recall ever running F:Q in the terminal before. How would I check the path? Thanks, On 11/12/2017 06:21 AM, Michael Fross wrote: One thing to check is that perl is in the path so GNC can find the executable. Michael On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 6:09 AM Dave H mailto:hell...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Les, Have you tried running it with the -v (verbose) option to get a bit more information back ? Running F:Q directly in Terminal works OK on MacOS 10.13 here but only after I first issue a "export ALPHAVANTAGE_AKI_KEY=" command so you might find that's what is needed when running it directly. Remember the environment file you added the key to is used by GnuCash and presumably passes the api key into F::Q so if you run F:Q directly you have to let it know what your api key is ? Cheers Dave H. On 12 November 2017 at 20:28, Les mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: > When I run the same command from my Linux Mint 18.2 I get > > Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: > symbol: NYSE:TGT (deduced) <=== required > date: ** missing **<=== recommended > currency: ** missing **<=== required > last: <=\ >nav: <=== one of these > price: <=/ > timezone: <=== optional > > ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash! > > When I go to Price Editor and run Get Quotes I get a long list: "unable to > receive these quotes". > > When I run ./gnc-fq-dump from my MacOS 10.13, I get "no such file or > directory". When I try Get Quotes I get "There was an unknown error while > retrieving the price quotes". > > So, I still have something missing. > > Les > > > > On 11/11/2017 10:21 PM, Robert Shimmin wrote: > >> Curious what I might be doing wrong. >> >> MacOS 10.11.6 >> GnuCash 2.6.15 >> F::Q 1.45 >> >> After obtaining an API key, specifying it in the environment file, and >> adjusting each security that uses automatics quotes to get them through >> Alphavantage, if I use Price Editor > Get Quotes, I get an error, "Unable >> to retrieve quotes for these items: NYSE:TGT, NYSE:DWDP, etc." (long list >> of symbols, list extends off the bottom of my screen, maybe I've set up >> too >> many securities for online quoting. If the error message concludes with >> whether I'd like to continue anyway with the quotes that could be >> obtained, >> the buttons are off the bottom of my screen and I don't actually get the >> choice. >> >> However, I must have set up things mostly right, because when testing it >> from the text helper utility, I'm getting alphavantage data back fr
Re: Alphavantage quotes working through F::Q, not through Gnucash
I added Alphavantage API key to the end of /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/Environment, which is where I was informed it needed to be. Is this no correct? As for command line, I have tried running changing directories to /Applications/Gnucash.app . On 11/12/2017 07:30 AM, David T. wrote: My question to both Les and Robert is *which* environment file have you updated? ~/.bash_profile, or /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gnucash/environment? F::Q will not work in the Mac bundle with Alphavantage if you modify ..bash_profile (but will work at the command line), and vice versa. Les, also, from what folder are you trying to run gnc-fq-dump? You need to be inside the Gnucash bundle for it to work. David On Nov 12, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Les wrote: I have had GC installed on my Mac for a very long time, and until Yahoo pulled the plug everything worked great! So, I would have to believe that Perl is already in the path. The only changes I have made were to add the Alphavantage key to the end of the environment file and updating GC to 2.6.18 after upgrading MacOS to 10.13. But I will check since I don't recall ever running F:Q in the terminal before. How would I check the path? Thanks, On 11/12/2017 06:21 AM, Michael Fross wrote: One thing to check is that perl is in the path so GNC can find the executable. Michael On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 6:09 AM Dave H mailto:hell...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Les, Have you tried running it with the -v (verbose) option to get a bit more information back ? Running F:Q directly in Terminal works OK on MacOS 10.13 here but only after I first issue a "export ALPHAVANTAGE_AKI_KEY=" command so you might find that's what is needed when running it directly. Remember the environment file you added the key to is used by GnuCash and presumably passes the api key into F::Q so if you run F:Q directly you have to let it know what your api key is ? Cheers Dave H. On 12 November 2017 at 20:28, Les mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: > When I run the same command from my Linux Mint 18.2 I get > > Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: > symbol: NYSE:TGT (deduced) <=== required > date: ** missing **<=== recommended > currency: ** missing **<=== required > last: <=\ >nav: <=== one of these > price: <=/ > timezone: <=== optional > > ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash! > > When I go to Price Editor and run Get Quotes I get a long list: "unable to > receive these quotes". > > When I run ./gnc-fq-dump from my MacOS 10.13, I get "no such file or > directory". When I try Get Quotes I get "There was an unknown error while > retrieving the price quotes". > > So, I still have something missing. > > Les > > > > On 11/11/2017 10:21 PM, Robert Shimmin wrote: > >> Curious what I might be doing wrong. >> >> MacOS 10.11.6 >> GnuCash 2.6.15 >> F::Q 1.45 >> >> After obtaining an API key, specifying it in the environment file, and >> adjusting each security that uses automatics quotes to get them through >> Alphavantage, if I use Price Editor > Get Quotes, I get an error, "Unable >> to retrieve quotes for these items: NYSE:TGT, NYSE:DWDP, etc." (long list >> of symbols, list extends off the bottom of my screen, maybe I've set up >> too >> many securities for online quoting. If the error message concludes with >> whether I'd like to continue anyway with the quotes that could be >> obtained, >> the buttons are off the bottom of my screen and I don't actually get the >> choice. >> >> However, I must have set up things mostly right, because when testing it >> from the text helper utility, I'm getting alphavantage data back from F::Q >> >> $ ./gnc-fq-dump alphavantage NYSE:TGT >> Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: >>symbol: NYSE:TGT >>date: 11/10/2017 >>currency: USD >>last: 61.4000 >>nav: >>price: >>timezone: >> >> Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? Is there a practical limit to how >> many securities can use online quoting through alphavantage? >> ___ >> gn
Re: Alphavantage quotes working through F::Q, not through Gnucash
I have had GC installed on my Mac for a very long time, and until Yahoo pulled the plug everything worked great! So, I would have to believe that Perl is already in the path. The only changes I have made were to add the Alphavantage key to the end of the environment file and updating GC to 2.6.18 after upgrading MacOS to 10.13. But I will check since I don't recall ever running F:Q in the terminal before. How would I check the path? Thanks, On 11/12/2017 06:21 AM, Michael Fross wrote: One thing to check is that perl is in the path so GNC can find the executable. Michael On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 6:09 AM Dave H <mailto:hell...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Les, Have you tried running it with the -v (verbose) option to get a bit more information back ? Running F:Q directly in Terminal works OK on MacOS 10.13 here but only after I first issue a "export ALPHAVANTAGE_AKI_KEY=" command so you might find that's what is needed when running it directly. Remember the environment file you added the key to is used by GnuCash and presumably passes the api key into F::Q so if you run F:Q directly you have to let it know what your api key is ? Cheers Dave H. On 12 November 2017 at 20:28, Les mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: > When I run the same command from my Linux Mint 18.2 I get > > Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: > symbol: NYSE:TGT (deduced) <=== required > date: ** missing ** <=== recommended > currency: ** missing ** <=== required > last: <=\ > nav: <=== one of these > price: <=/ > timezone: <=== optional > > ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash! > > When I go to Price Editor and run Get Quotes I get a long list: "unable to > receive these quotes". > > When I run ./gnc-fq-dump from my MacOS 10.13, I get "no such file or > directory". When I try Get Quotes I get "There was an unknown error while > retrieving the price quotes". > > So, I still have something missing. > > Les > > > > On 11/11/2017 10:21 PM, Robert Shimmin wrote: > >> Curious what I might be doing wrong. >> >> MacOS 10.11.6 >> GnuCash 2.6.15 >> F::Q 1.45 >> >> After obtaining an API key, specifying it in the environment file, and >> adjusting each security that uses automatics quotes to get them through >> Alphavantage, if I use Price Editor > Get Quotes, I get an error, "Unable >> to retrieve quotes for these items: NYSE:TGT, NYSE:DWDP, etc." (long list >> of symbols, list extends off the bottom of my screen, maybe I've set up >> too >> many securities for online quoting. If the error message concludes with >> whether I'd like to continue anyway with the quotes that could be >> obtained, >> the buttons are off the bottom of my screen and I don't actually get the >> choice. >> >> However, I must have set up things mostly right, because when testing it >> from the text helper utility, I'm getting alphavantage data back from F::Q >> >> $ ./gnc-fq-dump alphavantage NYSE:TGT >> Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: >> symbol: NYSE:TGT >> date: 11/10/2017 >> currency: USD >> last: 61.4000 >> nav: >> price: >> timezone: >> >> Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? Is there a practical limit to how >> many securities can use online quoting through alphavantage? >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user ma
Re: Alphavantage quotes working through F::Q, not through Gnucash
I did an export and tried running F:Q in the terminal with the -v and still get "no such file or directory". On 11/12/2017 05:08 AM, Dave H wrote: Hi Les, Have you tried running it with the -v (verbose) option to get a bit more information back ? Running F:Q directly in Terminal works OK on MacOS 10.13 here but only after I first issue a "export ALPHAVANTAGE_AKI_KEY=" command so you might find that's what is needed when running it directly. Remember the environment file you added the key to is used by GnuCash and presumably passes the api key into F::Q so if you run F:Q directly you have to let it know what your api key is ? Cheers Dave H. On 12 November 2017 at 20:28, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote: When I run the same command from my Linux Mint 18.2 I get Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: NYSE:TGT (deduced) <=== required date: ** missing ** <=== recommended currency: ** missing ** <=== required last: <=\ nav: <=== one of these price: <=/ timezone: <=== optional ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash! When I go to Price Editor and run Get Quotes I get a long list: "unable to receive these quotes". When I run ./gnc-fq-dump from my MacOS 10.13, I get "no such file or directory". When I try Get Quotes I get "There was an unknown error while retrieving the price quotes". So, I still have something missing. Les On 11/11/2017 10:21 PM, Robert Shimmin wrote: Curious what I might be doing wrong. MacOS 10.11.6 GnuCash 2.6.15 F::Q 1.45 After obtaining an API key, specifying it in the environment file, and adjusting each security that uses automatics quotes to get them through Alphavantage, if I use Price Editor > Get Quotes, I get an error, "Unable to retrieve quotes for these items: NYSE:TGT, NYSE:DWDP, etc." (long list of symbols, list extends off the bottom of my screen, maybe I've set up too many securities for online quoting. If the error message concludes with whether I'd like to continue anyway with the quotes that could be obtained, the buttons are off the bottom of my screen and I don't actually get the choice. However, I must have set up things mostly right, because when testing it from the text helper utility, I'm getting alphavantage data back from F::Q $ ./gnc-fq-dump alphavantage NYSE:TGT Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: NYSE:TGT date: 11/10/2017 currency: USD last: 61.4000 nav: price: timezone: Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? Is there a practical limit to how many securities can use online quoting through alphavantage? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Alphavantage quotes working through F::Q, not through Gnucash
When I run the same command from my Linux Mint 18.2 I get Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: NYSE:TGT (deduced) <=== required date: ** missing ** <=== recommended currency: ** missing ** <=== required last: <=\ nav: <=== one of these price: <=/ timezone: <=== optional ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash! When I go to Price Editor and run Get Quotes I get a long list: "unable to receive these quotes". When I run ./gnc-fq-dump from my MacOS 10.13, I get "no such file or directory". When I try Get Quotes I get "There was an unknown error while retrieving the price quotes". So, I still have something missing. Les On 11/11/2017 10:21 PM, Robert Shimmin wrote: Curious what I might be doing wrong. MacOS 10.11.6 GnuCash 2.6.15 F::Q 1.45 After obtaining an API key, specifying it in the environment file, and adjusting each security that uses automatics quotes to get them through Alphavantage, if I use Price Editor > Get Quotes, I get an error, "Unable to retrieve quotes for these items: NYSE:TGT, NYSE:DWDP, etc." (long list of symbols, list extends off the bottom of my screen, maybe I've set up too many securities for online quoting. If the error message concludes with whether I'd like to continue anyway with the quotes that could be obtained, the buttons are off the bottom of my screen and I don't actually get the choice. However, I must have set up things mostly right, because when testing it from the text helper utility, I'm getting alphavantage data back from F::Q $ ./gnc-fq-dump alphavantage NYSE:TGT Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: NYSE:TGT date: 11/10/2017 currency: USD last: 61.4000 nav: price: timezone: Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? Is there a practical limit to how many securities can use online quoting through alphavantage? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: API Key
Thanks, that worked. Now I'm good to go on both systems.
Thanks to all.
Les
On 11/10/2017 03:13 PM, Dave H wrote:
Les,
Just right click on the environment file name in finder and choose
"Open With" / "TextEdit.app". Scroll down and add it to the bottom of
the file and then save the file, exit text editor and you're away
i.e.
# Setup ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY for Finance:Quote
ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY=x
Cheers Dave H.
On 11 November 2017 at 06:09, Les <mailto:lellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I successfully added the API to Linux MInt 18.2. (I used sudo xed
to add the key. After, I used Security Editor to change my stocks
to Alphavantage.) Thanks for the pointers.
How do I make the entry on MacOS 10.13? I am rather new to Mac so
I don't know how to do edits. I know what and where I need to
make the entry.
Thanks,
On 11/10/2017 10:24 AM, Maf. King wrote:
Hi Les,
have a read of the FAQ - there is a recently added bit about
adding the API
key.
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3F
<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3F>
HTH,
Maf.
On Friday, 10 November 2017 16:07:52 GMT Les wrote:
I just obtained an API key from AlphaVantage, but I do not
have a clue
as to how to add the key to my LInux Mint or Mac OS systems.
Could someone please walk me through the process?
Thanks,
Les
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Re: API Key
I successfully added the API to Linux MInt 18.2. (I used sudo xed to add the key. After, I used Security Editor to change my stocks to Alphavantage.) Thanks for the pointers. How do I make the entry on MacOS 10.13? I am rather new to Mac so I don't know how to do edits. I know what and where I need to make the entry. Thanks, On 11/10/2017 10:24 AM, Maf. King wrote: Hi Les, have a read of the FAQ - there is a recently added bit about adding the API key. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3F HTH, Maf. On Friday, 10 November 2017 16:07:52 GMT Les wrote: I just obtained an API key from AlphaVantage, but I do not have a clue as to how to add the key to my LInux Mint or Mac OS systems. Could someone please walk me through the process? Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
API Key
I just obtained an API key from AlphaVantage, but I do not have a clue as to how to add the key to my LInux Mint or Mac OS systems. Could someone please walk me through the process? Thanks, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Finance-Quote 1.44 released!
I have just obtained the API key from ALPHAVANTAGE, but I do not have a clue how to add it to my LinuxMint or MacOs. (I am not technical) :-[ Could someone please walk me through this process, so I can begin updating stock and currency prices? Thanks, Les On 11/10/2017 08:31 AM, davel...@mac.com wrote: I'm not sure. I'll check that tonight and let you know. I switched everything to AlphaVantage the other day. Dave On Nov 9, 2017, at 11:46 AM, David T. wrote: Does the TIAA-CREF module not work? David On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:31 PM, davel...@mac.com wrote: On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Erik Colson wrote: davel...@mac.com writes: Thanks for all your work on this. A symbol I cannot get to work is QREARX (a TIAA-CREF mutual fund). https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/QREARX?p=QREARX I don't know if it's something wrong with AlphaVantage or Finance::Quote. This symbol isn't supported by the alphavantage API. So we'll need to find another source for it. Anyone? best -- erik colson Thanks. I emailed alphavantage through the support option on their website so we'll see what they say. It's strange that all the other TIAA-CREF funds I have work fine. Dave ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Mac OS
Update, I just upgrade GC to 2.6.18 and that solved the problem of incompatibility with Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.1. Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
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I just updated my Mac to the latest version and now GC will not open. I get a message that GC is incompatible with this version of Mac OS. Any workarounds or solutions? Running GC 2.6.17. Would 2.6.18 solve this problem? Regards, Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Finance-Quote 1.44 released!
Can someone refresh my memory on how to update F::Q. I don't even know what version I currently have installed. I am on Linux Mint 18.2 and installed GC from GetDebs (current version of GC 2.6.17.) Thanks, Les On 11/07/2017 02:58 PM, Erik Colson wrote: New version 1.44 of Finance-Quote is available with the following changes: * Added currencies for .SA (Brazil) and .TO (Canada/Toronto) markets * Setup a pause of .7s between queries in AlphaVantage.pm to limit queries Authors: - Dj Padzensky , PadzNet, Inc. - Linas Vepstas - Yannick LE NY - Paul Fenwick - Brent Neal - Volker Stuerzl - Keith Refson - Rob Sessink - Leigh Wedding - Tobias Vancura - James Treacy - Bradley Dean - Erik Colson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: Gnucash usage for small banks and GL derivation rules
Banking is a very complex operation (I was a banker for 15 years). You have interest accruals: interest on loans (loans are an asset and the interest is income), accruals: interest on saving, time deposits, etc. (saving, checking, etc are liabilities and the interest is an expense). Real time, multi-user processing of deposits and withdrawal. Accounting for government regulation compliance. The list goes on and on. There are systems designed specifically for banking, and probably very expensive and usually run on large computer systems with redundancy. There are also service bureaus that provide these functions for smaller banks (probably the best solution for a new operation). Les On 06/21/2017 06:40 AM, Mike or Penny Novack wrote: > On 6/20/2017 12:02 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> First, I don’t think GnuCash is recommended for any case but personal >> finances, clubs, and small businesses. A financial institution is on >> an entirely different level. As David noted, I certainly wouldn’t >> want to be a customer of such a bank. (now, if they liked GC so much >> they decided to fully fund its development to get it to an acceptable >> state for that case, I might change my mind) > I am not sure I understand that answer. During my lifetime, banks, > especially small banks were still using pen and ink on paper > (computers became available for business purposes the first decade > after WW II) > > Gnucash is perfectly able to mimic (automate) what old fashioned > bookkeeping did. In many ways a bank is easier (more complete) than > most businesses. The main lack in gnucash is no provision to receive > "feeds" from other business systems (inventory, point of sales, etc.) > > Michael D Novack > > PS: If what you were meaning was just that gnucash did not come with a > built up skeleton (sample of initial accounts) designed for a banking > business, that is another matter entirely. But we can all come up with > specialized uses for which "no set up skeleton provided". It doesn't > make gnucash unsuitable just because you have to "roll your own" CoA. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
