[GNC] Top-Level Account:Expenses not totaling in Budget

2020-07-06 Thread Lorrie Laskey
> but no accounts were created in the aqbanking window.  I tried to create an
> account, but it's not clear what information each field wants, especially
> since it's designed to be country agnostic.  Is BIC SWIFT the routing
> number for my US account?  Is country "US" or "United States" or something
> else?  Bank Name?  The one in www.ofxhome.com?  The one on their
> website?  Can't get much more ambiguous than bank name.  The look up bank
> code doesn't appear to do anything, so I have no idea if the bank code is
> the OFX FI, the routing number, or something else.  There are enough
> ambiguous fields, trying various combinations is prohibitive.  If there is
> documentation, in English (google translate will not understand subtleties
> of BIC/IBAN/SWIFT/routing number), for setting up OFX accounts, I will
> happily try again.
> >>
> >> There were no errors in /tmp/ofx.log.
> >>
> >> There don't seem to be any errors in the output, and nothing was in the
> trace file, so I guess I read how to turn that on wrong.  I've attached the
> stdout/stderr output.  Will the trace be helpful?  If so, I'll go back and
> to that.  What else have I missed?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> fleur
> >> --
> >> Fleur Dragan / fl...@obscure.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 5, 2020, at 1:14 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
> frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Am 05.07.20 um 00:51 schrieb peterb:
> >>>> Fleur Dragan said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So when I try to set up OFX connectivity, the user is created
> >>>>> successfully.  Then I try to retrieve accounts, which do show up in
> the log
> >>>>> window, and the log window says I may now close, but when I do,
> nothing
> >>>>> happens.  This was the same behavior I saw with aqbanking 6.1.4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This was the exact same behavior I saw in 3.10.  I haven't tried it
> with
> >>>> 4.0 yet.  The overall user impression was "Your login has succeeded!
> >>>> Nothing happens."
> >>>>
> >>>> -P
> >>>
> >>> just in case the one or other wants to dig deeper:
> >>> * https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/AqBanking#Debugging
> >>> * https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
> >>> Flatpak users only:
> >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Getting_Console_Output
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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[GNC] Top-Level Account:Expenses not totaling in Budget

2020-07-06 Thread Lorrie Laskey
I am creating an income vs expenses budget, inputting my monthly values for
July to December 2020.

The total cumulative running value for Expenses is not changing as expenses
are added to the month of July for all expenses. For example...

   - $60 - gas
   - $60 - phone
   - $1500 - rent
   - and so on

The total monthly expenses should be about $2400 however it is not
increasing over the value of say, the rent, ignoring the other monthly
expenses.

I tried estimating the expenses and that ignored the rent, entirely, the
largest of my expenses.

Here are my questions but #1 is the most pressing.

   1. How do I get a total monthly expense value for all expenses?
   2. Is there not a feature to autofill or drag the monthly values, say
   $60 for phone, into all months? Otherwise copy and paste are so error-prone
   and time-consuming.
   3. How are 1-time payments for a time period handled? Examples are
   insurance paid once per six months.
   4. Can the Column of the budget not be adjusted by inputting a width
   value like a column in a spreadsheet? Grabbing and pulling the column is
   not exact and the width changes with the browser window width requiring
   constant fiddling.
   5. How do I remove specific expenses from the list of expenses under the
   Expenses top-level account? I don't want to see expenses listed where I
   will have a zero value.


Thank you,

Lorrie
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[GNC] Other Income Account

2019-01-26 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi all,

My "Other Income" account is showing bank transfers from a fried to my bank
account when reimbursing me for, say, shared vacation costs.

It is not income but reimbursement of some sort, isn't it?

Should this be categorized as income?
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Re: [GNC] How to remove unused accounts

2019-01-26 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi David,

I figured out that I needed to add a final transaction to close out some
unused accounts. However, I have a few that I don't know how to close out.

For example, I started an "Investments" account to monitor my 401K
contributions and abandoned it. It now has a total of $12,900, which is
being included in the reports. How do I close this account while keeping
the transactions?



On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:14 AM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Lorrie,
>
> There are some other choices.
>
> If you want some accounts that you do not use to be omitted from some
> reports use the Accounts selection for those reports to only select the
> accounts you want.
>
> If there are old accounts that are essentially just missing the last
> transaction to close them out, just add a transaction to transfer the
> balance to equity.  Give it an appropriate date in the past.
>
>
> David C
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:04 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, January 25, 2019 9:51 am, Lorrie Laskey wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have a few old, unused accounts with dollars amounts that are not
>> > accurate that are showing up when doing reports, skewing the data.
>> >
>> > How do I delete the accounts but not the transactions?
>>
>> When you delete an account, GnuCash will ask you what to do with all the
>> transactions in the account.  Your choices are basically:
>>
>>   * move them into another account, or
>>   * move them into Orphan-XXX (where XXX is the currency)
>>
>> There is no way to "mass delete" a bunch of transactions.
>>
>> > Credit card payments were made from my checking account, so deleting the
>> > transactions would remove them from the checking account.
>>
>> Let me ask you a different question here..  Credit card payments were made
>> from your checking account to the CC account -- so if THOSE transactions
>> were correct, then... where is the problem?  Is the problem that you did
>> not account for your actual CC charges?
>>
>> What balances are "off"?
>>
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>> -derek
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[GNC] How to remove unused accounts

2019-01-25 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi all,

I have a few old, unused accounts with dollars amounts that are not
accurate that are showing up when doing reports, skewing the data.

How do I delete the accounts but not the transactions?

Credit card payments were made from my checking account, so deleting the
transactions would remove them from the checking account.
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Re: [GNC] I can't get the budget feature to work.

2019-01-24 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Mystery solved.

I did as you suggested and went through all of my account types and their
child accounts and did have some that were not categorized properly.
Voila! The budget now works.

I would like to suggest some kind of user help when issues arise. If the
budget is not working, possibly an error message or a popup with helpful
suggestions or a bug report popup.

Back to the budget, I am looking forward to testing my budget this year and
making wiser money choices and putting some money aside for special
purchases. Having my money under control is such a comforting feeling.

Thanks to the creators of this wonderful tool.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:37 PM Lorrie Laskey  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't understand what you mean by "top-level account" and "one account
> type". Can you give me examples?
>
> I don't understand much of gnucash despite reading the articles and
> watching tutorials.
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 8:02 AM  wrote:
>
>> Lorrie,
>>
>> I've seen this problem in GnuCash 2.6; I don't know whether it has
>> changed in 3.x:
>>
>> Make sure that you have only one account of type Expense and one account
>> of type Asset at the top level of your accounts. If you have more than
>> one, then the budget function doesn't work as you've described.
>>
>> You can check this by going to the Accounts tab, right-clicking (in
>> Windows, might be different on a Mac?) on each top-level account, and
>> selecting "Edit Account". This will open an options window for the
>> account. The account type is at the lower left.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> On 2019-01-24 1:43 a.m., gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 19:09:49 -0800
>> > From: Lorrie Laskey
>> > To:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>> > Subject: [GNC] I can't get the budget feature to work.
>> > Message-ID:
>> >   > 2ksto-bklwetca7...@mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I created a 12 -period 2019 budget and entered child-level expenses and
>> > income.
>> >
>> > The expenses have a total in the spreadsheet but are not showing up at
>> the
>> > bottom of the spreadsheet. Expenses still display as "0".
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC] I can't get the budget feature to work.

2019-01-24 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi,

I don't understand what you mean by "top-level account" and "one account
type". Can you give me examples?

I don't understand much of gnucash despite reading the articles and
watching tutorials.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 8:02 AM  wrote:

> Lorrie,
>
> I've seen this problem in GnuCash 2.6; I don't know whether it has
> changed in 3.x:
>
> Make sure that you have only one account of type Expense and one account
> of type Asset at the top level of your accounts. If you have more than
> one, then the budget function doesn't work as you've described.
>
> You can check this by going to the Accounts tab, right-clicking (in
> Windows, might be different on a Mac?) on each top-level account, and
> selecting "Edit Account". This will open an options window for the
> account. The account type is at the lower left.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> On 2019-01-24 1:43 a.m., gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 19:09:49 -0800
> > From: Lorrie Laskey
> > To:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: [GNC] I can't get the budget feature to work.
> > Message-ID:
> >2ksto-bklwetca7...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I created a 12 -period 2019 budget and entered child-level expenses and
> > income.
> >
> > The expenses have a total in the spreadsheet but are not showing up at
> the
> > bottom of the spreadsheet. Expenses still display as "0".
> >
> > What am I missing?
>
>
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[GNC] I can't get the budget feature to work.

2019-01-23 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi all,

I created a 12 -period 2019 budget and entered child-level expenses and
income.

The expenses have a total in the spreadsheet but are not showing up at the
bottom of the spreadsheet. Expenses still display as "0".

What am I missing?
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[GNC] New Budget Bar Chart Not Displaying

2019-01-23 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi all,

Any idea why the bar chart is not displaying. The tab that opens is blank.
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Re: [GNC] New Budget Data Date Range

2019-01-23 Thread Lorrie Laskey
That is what I thought. How do I change the budget date range? I can't find
such settings in the options for the budget.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:26 AM David T.  wrote:

>
> Without specifics, I'd guess that your budget is set up for a four year
> period. The report time range is (I recall) based off the budget date
> range.
>
> David
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 9:12, Lorrie Laskey
>  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My new budget "Budget Report" is pulling transactions that go back 4 years.
> Is there a setting that is wrong? It should be for 2019 only.
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[GNC] New Budget Data Date Range

2019-01-22 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi all,

My new budget "Budget Report" is pulling transactions that go back 4 years.
Is there a setting that is wrong? It should be for 2019 only.
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[GNC] New Budget Help

2019-01-22 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi all,

I am trying to set up a budget following a YouTube video. See the link
below.

I created a budget, added my salary category and put the same dollar amount
into my checking account category, as instructed, to zero out the budget
total at the bottom of the budget sheet.

Next is where I am having problems, according to the video, once I enter a
few expenses, the "Transfers" category at the bottom of the budget sheet
should begin to decrease.

However, mine is not changing, though the expenses category total is
increasing.

Right about minute 6:46 is where this happens in this video. What is wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PMz7SMt68E
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[GNC] Cash Account Question

2019-01-22 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Looking over my accounts, I see a Cash account with what looks like every
cash transaction I have ever made going back 4 years. Since I don't track
my cash, it is a negative balance and is skewing the balance of my overall
accounts.

Do I need to track this and if not, how do I delete it without deleting the
individual transitions from their original accounts?

Lorrie
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Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues

2018-12-03 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi David,

I think I found it. The autosave time interval is set to 5 mins.

I tested it. I made a change. Wait 5 mins and it mostly works. A log file
was created at 5 mins and the finance.gnucash file was updated at 5 mins.
However, the finance.gnucash file did not append the date,time,min and sec
to the file name.  Does this mean that something is wrong?





On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:19 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Lorrie,
>
> I am away from my computer right now so I cannot confirm the exact
> wording, but it s something like how often to make backups.  I  dont
> remember the default. It may be only 5 minutes, I have it set to 30 minutes
> but I religiously do manual saves before certain activities such as imports.
>
> My tablet is messing with me, excuse the sloppy writing.
>
> David C
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 9:34 PM Lorrie Laskey 
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Here are my responses.
>>
>>1. Retain log file set to 15 days.
>>2. No * before the filename in the title bar.
>>
>> What is this "the amount of time set in that preference section has
>> passed." that you are referring to? I am not finding this in the
>> preferences section.
>>
>>
>>
>> David C
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I did.
>>>>
>>>>- I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then
>>>>closed the file.
>>>>- Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file.
>>>>- Made a change and saved it which created a log file.
>>>>- Closed the same file and repeated these steps.
>>>>- No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash"
>>>> file
>>>>remained.
>>>>
>>>> Is something wrong?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Lorrie,
>>>> >
>>>> > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it
>>>> would
>>>> > appear you have opened a backup copy of the
>>>> > file, which is why it has the form
>>>> "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash".
>>>> >
>>>> > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash
>>>> it"
>>>> > has just opened and renames it
>>>> > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a
>>>> logfile
>>>> > ".gnucash..log"
>>>> > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current
>>>> > session.
>>>> >
>>>> > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in
>>>> GnuCash
>>>> > any changes are saved to ".gnucash"
>>>> > In your  case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of
>>>> > "finances.gnucash".
>>>> >
>>>> > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the
>>>> file
>>>> > you are currently using as the main
>>>> > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash",  as "finances.gnucash".
>>>> >
>>>> > See
>>>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html
>>>> > for a detailed explanation of this.
>>>> >
>>>> > David Cousens
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote:
>>>> > > Hi Colin,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and
>>>> seconds
>>>> > when
>>>> > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have
>>>> tried
>>>> > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to
>>>> work
>>>> > or
>>>> > > understand what it is doing.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks for  your help this morning.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > On 

Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues

2018-12-03 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi David,

Here are my responses.

   1. Retain log file set to 15 days.
   2. No * before the filename in the title bar.

What is this "the amount of time set in that preference section has
passed." that you are referring to? I am not finding this in the
preferences section.



David C

>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey  wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Here's what I did.
>>
>>- I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then
>>closed the file.
>>- Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file.
>>- Made a change and saved it which created a log file.
>>- Closed the same file and repeated these steps.
>>- No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash"
>> file
>>remained.
>>
>> Is something wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Lorrie,
>> >
>> > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it
>> would
>> > appear you have opened a backup copy of the
>> > file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash".
>> >
>> > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it"
>> > has just opened and renames it
>> > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a
>> logfile
>> > ".gnucash..log"
>> > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current
>> > session.
>> >
>> > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in GnuCash
>> > any changes are saved to ".gnucash"
>> > In your  case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of
>> > "finances.gnucash".
>> >
>> > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the file
>> > you are currently using as the main
>> > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash",  as "finances.gnucash".
>> >
>> > See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html
>> > for a detailed explanation of this.
>> >
>> > David Cousens
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote:
>> > > Hi Colin,
>> > >
>> > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds
>> > when
>> > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is.
>> > >
>> > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have
>> tried
>> > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to
>> work
>> > or
>> > > understand what it is doing.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for  your help this morning.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey 
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi Colin,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the
>> > file.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using
>> the
>> > > >
>> > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but
>> the
>> > log
>> > > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash
>> > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503
>> > > >
>> > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the
>> > > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to
>> > > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened
>> > > > automatically when you open Gnucash).  Again this is exactly the
>> same
>> > > > as will happen with MS Word for example.  Save As means "save the
>> file
>> > > > with this new name and then keep using the new name".  If you want
>> to
>> > > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with
>> > > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file.
>> > > >
>> > > > Colin
>> > > >
>

Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues

2018-12-03 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi David,

Here's what I did.

   - I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then
   closed the file.
   - Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file.
   - Made a change and saved it which created a log file.
   - Closed the same file and repeated these steps.
   - No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash" file
   remained.

Is something wrong?



On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens 
wrote:

> Lorrie,
>
> At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it would
> appear you have opened a backup copy of the
> file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash".
>
> Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it"
> has just opened and renames it
> ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a logfile
> ".gnucash..log"
> which records the changes to the file which occur during the current
> session.
>
> When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in GnuCash
> any changes are saved to ".gnucash"
> In your  case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of
> "finances.gnucash".
>
> You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the file
> you are currently using as the main
> file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash",  as "finances.gnucash".
>
> See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html
> for a detailed explanation of this.
>
> David Cousens
>
>
> On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote:
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds
> when
> > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is.
> >
> > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have tried
> > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to work
> or
> > understand what it is doing.
> >
> > Thanks for  your help this morning.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law  wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Colin,
> > > >
> > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the
> file.
> > > >
> > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the
> > >
> > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the
> log
> > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem?
> > > >
> > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash
> > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503
> > >
> > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the
> > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to
> > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened
> > > automatically when you open Gnucash).  Again this is exactly the same
> > > as will happen with MS Word for example.  Save As means "save the file
> > > with this new name and then keep using the new name".  If you want to
> > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with
> > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file.
> > >
> > > Colin
> > >
> >
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Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues

2018-12-02 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi Colin,

I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds when
a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is.

My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have tried
and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to work or
understand what it is doing.

Thanks for  your help this morning.


On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law  wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the file.
> >
> > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the
> name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the log
> file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem?
> >
> > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash
> > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503
>
> If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the
> current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to
> that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened
> automatically when you open Gnucash).  Again this is exactly the same
> as will happen with MS Word for example.  Save As means "save the file
> with this new name and then keep using the new name".  If you want to
> give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with
> the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file.
>
> Colin
>
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Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues

2018-12-02 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi Colin,

The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the file.

However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the name
that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the log file
name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem?


   - finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash
   - finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503

Thanks,

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 9:15 AM Colin Law  wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 17:11, Lorrie Laskey  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > So I need to use "save" instead of "save as"? My "save" option is grayed
> out.
>
> It will be greyed out until you change something.  Once you change
> something then it should be enabled.  If not then that probably means
> you did a Save As and selected sqlite as the file type.  If that is
> the case then do Save As, select XML, browse to the folder where you
> want the file and click the OK, or Save button or whatever it is.
> Then close and re-open gnucash, it should re-open the xml file (you
> can see the file name in the top bar) and then the Save button should
> be back to normal.
>
> Colin
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:53 AM Colin Law  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 16:40, Lorrie Laskey  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select
> one
> >> > topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to
> follow the
> >> > messages.
> >> >
> >> > #1 Saving
> >> > I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it
> seems. I
> >> > have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option.
> >> >
> >> > In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file"
> issue.
> >>
> >> Save is the right way to do it.  That will save back into whichever
> >> file you have open.  Just the same as MS Word or other applications.
> >> If you use Save As then it will create a new file with the name you
> >> give it (or overwrite any existing file with that name. When you next
> >> open GC it will open *that* file not the original.  If you want to
> >> open a file other than the last one used then use File Open and browse
> >> to it.  While on this subject, I hope you are making a regular backup
> >> of your accounts file in case of computer failure.
> >>
> >> > Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to
> save
> >> > it as an xml file.
> >>
> >> For most users just using the default xml is the right way.  Don't
> >> worry about the other options.  If you needed them you would know what
> >> they mean.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > #2
> >> > Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other
> methods
> >> > to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one
> >> > computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated.
> >>
> >> If you get the Lock file warning when you open GC that means that GC
> >> probably did not close down properly the last time you used it.
> >> Either GC or Windows crashed for example, or you did a forced
> >> powerdown of the PC rather than a normal shutdown.  It is only a
> >> warning, you can just say Open Anyway, provided you have not already
> >> got the file open in another GnuCash instance or on another computer.
> >> If it happens regularly there is something wrong though.
> >>
> >> Colin
>
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Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues

2018-12-02 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi,

So I need to use "save" instead of "save as"? My "save" option is grayed
out.

Thanks,

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:53 AM Colin Law  wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 16:40, Lorrie Laskey  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select one
> > topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to follow
> the
> > messages.
> >
> > #1 Saving
> > I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it seems. I
> > have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option.
> >
> > In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file" issue.
>
> Save is the right way to do it.  That will save back into whichever
> file you have open.  Just the same as MS Word or other applications.
> If you use Save As then it will create a new file with the name you
> give it (or overwrite any existing file with that name. When you next
> open GC it will open *that* file not the original.  If you want to
> open a file other than the last one used then use File Open and browse
> to it.  While on this subject, I hope you are making a regular backup
> of your accounts file in case of computer failure.
>
> > Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to
> save
> > it as an xml file.
>
> For most users just using the default xml is the right way.  Don't
> worry about the other options.  If you needed them you would know what
> they mean.
>
> >
> > #2
> > Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other
> methods
> > to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one
> > computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated.
>
> If you get the Lock file warning when you open GC that means that GC
> probably did not close down properly the last time you used it.
> Either GC or Windows crashed for example, or you did a forced
> powerdown of the PC rather than a normal shutdown.  It is only a
> warning, you can just say Open Anyway, provided you have not already
> got the file open in another GnuCash instance or on another computer.
> If it happens regularly there is something wrong though.
>
> Colin
>
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[GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues

2018-12-02 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Hi all,

This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select one
topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to follow the
messages.

#1 Saving
I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it seems. I
have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option.

In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file" issue.
Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to save
it as an xml file. I did figure out that I needed to name the file and
Gnucash would add the .xml extension. Is this the correct method? What are
the different file types for? I really did read the documentation but the
save option explanations are too far above my head. Can someone explain
what the save options are at an intro level?

#2
Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other methods
to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one
computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated.


Thanks,
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