Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Another quirk to watch out for is whether Explorer was refreshed after the last file was created. David C On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:44 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > True. I forgot about that one. I use sqlite and indeed it is always > inactive. > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Colin Law wrote: > > > > If it were an sqlite file then I don't think the Save button would > > ever be enabled. > > > > Colin > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 16:39, Adrien Monteleone > > wrote: > >> > >> If you try to open the file with a text editor (I used Atom, because > TextEdit complained about something wrong with UTF-8 in the file) you will > see this at the beginning: > >> > >> SQLite format 3 > >> > >> If it is an sqlite format. > >> > >> If it is the compressed XML, you’ll see gibberish/non-printable > character. > >> > >> If you uncompress the file, and try to read it with a text editor, > you’ll of course see XML. > >> > >> I’m not sure if there is any other way to tell. (short of using a hex > editor, etc.) > >> > >> Regards, > >> Adrien > >> > >>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 1:55 AM, Maf. King wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Lorrie, > >>> > >>> Are you sure you are using an XML file for your GC data? IIRC, using > the > >>> SQLite format stops the creation of the timestamp backup files. > >>> > >>> I'm not entirely sure how to check what format the file is in, but if > you do a > >>> file-> Save As and look at the options in that dialog box it *may* > shed some > >>> light. Cancel if you don't actually want to rename the file, of > course. > >>> > >>> 0.02 > >>> Maf. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:13:38 GMT David Cousens wrote: > Lorrie, > > That looks OK apart from not creating the backup file which should > have been > created when you opened the file to to make the change , saved it and > then > closed the file. (I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned adding > an .xml > file extension. There is no need to do that as the .gnucash is the > correct > extension.) > > There should have been a file > > finances.gnucash..gnucash > > with the same roughly as the log file. It may differ > by a > few seconds. > has the format "MMDDHHMMSS". > > In most cases the datestamp on the log file and the backup file only > differ > by 1-2 s on my system with the backup file created first and then the > log > file. > > There is a preference in the Edit->Preferences General tab where you > can set > the file retention period for the backups and log files. I usually > leave > it at the default of 30 days as I have terrabytes of free space on my > system but it is generally a good idea to set this so you have a few > backup > and logfiles on your system so you can recover maximum data if you > ever > have a file corruption issue. This is only likely if GnuCash or the OS > crashes while writing to the file. > > David Cousens > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Maf. King > >>> PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7 2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 > C542 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>> - > >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription prefere
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
True. I forgot about that one. I use sqlite and indeed it is always inactive. Regards, Adrien > On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Colin Law wrote: > > If it were an sqlite file then I don't think the Save button would > ever be enabled. > > Colin > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 16:39, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: >> >> If you try to open the file with a text editor (I used Atom, because >> TextEdit complained about something wrong with UTF-8 in the file) you will >> see this at the beginning: >> >> SQLite format 3 >> >> If it is an sqlite format. >> >> If it is the compressed XML, you’ll see gibberish/non-printable character. >> >> If you uncompress the file, and try to read it with a text editor, you’ll of >> course see XML. >> >> I’m not sure if there is any other way to tell. (short of using a hex >> editor, etc.) >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 1:55 AM, Maf. King wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lorrie, >>> >>> Are you sure you are using an XML file for your GC data? IIRC, using the >>> SQLite format stops the creation of the timestamp backup files. >>> >>> I'm not entirely sure how to check what format the file is in, but if you >>> do a >>> file-> Save As and look at the options in that dialog box it *may* shed some >>> light. Cancel if you don't actually want to rename the file, of course. >>> >>> 0.02 >>> Maf. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:13:38 GMT David Cousens wrote: Lorrie, That looks OK apart from not creating the backup file which should have been created when you opened the file to to make the change , saved it and then closed the file. (I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned adding an .xml file extension. There is no need to do that as the .gnucash is the correct extension.) There should have been a file finances.gnucash..gnucash with the same roughly as the log file. It may differ by a few seconds. has the format "MMDDHHMMSS". In most cases the datestamp on the log file and the backup file only differ by 1-2 s on my system with the backup file created first and then the log file. There is a preference in the Edit->Preferences General tab where you can set the file retention period for the backups and log files. I usually leave it at the default of 30 days as I have terrabytes of free space on my system but it is generally a good idea to set this so you have a few backup and logfiles on your system so you can recover maximum data if you ever have a file corruption issue. This is only likely if GnuCash or the OS crashes while writing to the file. David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Maf. King >>> PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7 2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 C542 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
If it were an sqlite file then I don't think the Save button would ever be enabled. Colin On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 16:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > If you try to open the file with a text editor (I used Atom, because TextEdit > complained about something wrong with UTF-8 in the file) you will see this at > the beginning: > > SQLite format 3 > > If it is an sqlite format. > > If it is the compressed XML, you’ll see gibberish/non-printable character. > > If you uncompress the file, and try to read it with a text editor, you’ll of > course see XML. > > I’m not sure if there is any other way to tell. (short of using a hex editor, > etc.) > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Dec 4, 2018, at 1:55 AM, Maf. King wrote: > > > > Hi Lorrie, > > > > Are you sure you are using an XML file for your GC data? IIRC, using the > > SQLite format stops the creation of the timestamp backup files. > > > > I'm not entirely sure how to check what format the file is in, but if you > > do a > > file-> Save As and look at the options in that dialog box it *may* shed some > > light. Cancel if you don't actually want to rename the file, of course. > > > > 0.02 > > Maf. > > > > > > On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:13:38 GMT David Cousens wrote: > >> Lorrie, > >> > >> That looks OK apart from not creating the backup file which should have > >> been > >> created when you opened the file to to make the change , saved it and then > >> closed the file. (I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned adding an .xml > >> file extension. There is no need to do that as the .gnucash is the correct > >> extension.) > >> > >> There should have been a file > >> > >> finances.gnucash..gnucash > >> > >> with the same roughly as the log file. It may differ by a > >> few seconds. > >> has the format "MMDDHHMMSS". > >> > >> In most cases the datestamp on the log file and the backup file only differ > >> by 1-2 s on my system with the backup file created first and then the log > >> file. > >> > >> There is a preference in the Edit->Preferences General tab where you can > >> set > >> the file retention period for the backups and log files. I usually leave > >> it at the default of 30 days as I have terrabytes of free space on my > >> system but it is generally a good idea to set this so you have a few backup > >> and logfiles on your system so you can recover maximum data if you ever > >> have a file corruption issue. This is only likely if GnuCash or the OS > >> crashes while writing to the file. > >> > >> David Cousens > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> David Cousens > >> -- > >> Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > -- > > Maf. King > > PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7 2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 C542 > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
If you try to open the file with a text editor (I used Atom, because TextEdit complained about something wrong with UTF-8 in the file) you will see this at the beginning: SQLite format 3 If it is an sqlite format. If it is the compressed XML, you’ll see gibberish/non-printable character. If you uncompress the file, and try to read it with a text editor, you’ll of course see XML. I’m not sure if there is any other way to tell. (short of using a hex editor, etc.) Regards, Adrien > On Dec 4, 2018, at 1:55 AM, Maf. King wrote: > > Hi Lorrie, > > Are you sure you are using an XML file for your GC data? IIRC, using the > SQLite format stops the creation of the timestamp backup files. > > I'm not entirely sure how to check what format the file is in, but if you do > a > file-> Save As and look at the options in that dialog box it *may* shed some > light. Cancel if you don't actually want to rename the file, of course. > > 0.02 > Maf. > > > On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:13:38 GMT David Cousens wrote: >> Lorrie, >> >> That looks OK apart from not creating the backup file which should have been >> created when you opened the file to to make the change , saved it and then >> closed the file. (I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned adding an .xml >> file extension. There is no need to do that as the .gnucash is the correct >> extension.) >> >> There should have been a file >> >> finances.gnucash..gnucash >> >> with the same roughly as the log file. It may differ by a >> few seconds. >> has the format "MMDDHHMMSS". >> >> In most cases the datestamp on the log file and the backup file only differ >> by 1-2 s on my system with the backup file created first and then the log >> file. >> >> There is a preference in the Edit->Preferences General tab where you can set >> the file retention period for the backups and log files. I usually leave >> it at the default of 30 days as I have terrabytes of free space on my >> system but it is generally a good idea to set this so you have a few backup >> and logfiles on your system so you can recover maximum data if you ever >> have a file corruption issue. This is only likely if GnuCash or the OS >> crashes while writing to the file. >> >> David Cousens >> >> >> >> - >> David Cousens >> -- >> Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > -- > Maf. King > PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7 2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 C542 > > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi Lorrie, Are you sure you are using an XML file for your GC data? IIRC, using the SQLite format stops the creation of the timestamp backup files. I'm not entirely sure how to check what format the file is in, but if you do a file-> Save As and look at the options in that dialog box it *may* shed some light. Cancel if you don't actually want to rename the file, of course. 0.02 Maf. On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:13:38 GMT David Cousens wrote: > Lorrie, > > That looks OK apart from not creating the backup file which should have been > created when you opened the file to to make the change , saved it and then > closed the file. (I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned adding an .xml > file extension. There is no need to do that as the .gnucash is the correct > extension.) > > There should have been a file > > finances.gnucash..gnucash > > with the same roughly as the log file. It may differ by a > few seconds. > has the format "MMDDHHMMSS". > > In most cases the datestamp on the log file and the backup file only differ > by 1-2 s on my system with the backup file created first and then the log > file. > > There is a preference in the Edit->Preferences General tab where you can set > the file retention period for the backups and log files. I usually leave > it at the default of 30 days as I have terrabytes of free space on my > system but it is generally a good idea to set this so you have a few backup > and logfiles on your system so you can recover maximum data if you ever > have a file corruption issue. This is only likely if GnuCash or the OS > crashes while writing to the file. > > David Cousens > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Maf. King PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7 2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 C542 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Lorrie,The backup file with the datestamp should only be created when you first open the file in GnuCash. Gnucash opens the file and then copies and renames it with the . attached e.g finances.gnucash..gnucash and then writes any changes to the file with the original filename e.g finances.gnucash file After that any saves/autosaves are also made to finances .gnucash. As you perform actions in GnuCash, they are written to the log file, so the log file is a record of all actions in a session. If your mainfile becomes corrupted, there is a facility in GnuCash for opening the last successful backup file and importing the logfiles created since it was written to restore your mainfile to the point just before failure. You may have to edit the file and remove the last transaction if it happened to be the cause of the failure. David Cousens On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 20:46 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > Hi David, > > I think I found it. The autosave time interval is set to 5 mins. > > I tested it. I made a change. Wait 5 mins and it mostly works. A log file was > created at 5 mins and the > finance.gnucash file was updated at 5 mins. However, the finance.gnucash file > did not append the date,time,min and sec > to the file name. Does this mean that something is wrong? > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:19 PM David Carlson > wrote: > > Lorrie, > > I am away from my computer right now so I cannot confirm the exact wording, > > but it s something like how often to > > make backups. I dont remember the default. It may be only 5 minutes, I > > have it set to 30 minutes but I religiously > > do manual saves before certain activities such as imports. > > > > My tablet is messing with me, excuse the sloppy writing. > > > > David C > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 9:34 PM Lorrie Laskey > > Hi David, > > > > > > Here are my responses. > > > Retain log file set to 15 days.No * before the filename in the title > > > bar.What is this "the amount of time set in > > > that preference section has passed." that you are referring to? I am not > > > finding this in the preferences section. > > > > > > > > > > > > David C > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's what I did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then > > > > > > > > > >closed the file. > > > > > > > > > >- Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file. > > > > > > > > > >- Made a change and saved it which created a log file. > > > > > > > > > >- Closed the same file and repeated these steps. > > > > > > > > > >- No backup file was created . Only the original > > > > > "finances.gnucash" file > > > > > > > > > >remained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is something wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lorrie, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" > > > > > > it would > > > > > > > > > > > appear you have opened a backup copy of the > > > > > > > > > > > file, which is why it has the form > > > > > > "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash > > > > > > it" > > > > > > > > > > > has just opened and renames it > > > > > > > > > > > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a > > > > > > logfile > > > > > > > > > > > ".gnucash..log" > > > > > > > > > > > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current > > > > > > > > > > > session. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in > > > > > > GnuCash > > > > > > > > > > > any changes are saved to ".gnucash" > > > > > > > > > > > In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of > > > > > > > > > > > "finances.gnucash". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the > > > > > > file > > > > > > > > > > > you are currently using as the main > > > > > > > > > > > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See > > > > > > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html > > > > > > > > > > > for a detailed explanation of this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Cousens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and > > > > > > > seconds > > > > >
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Lorrie, The setting David Carlson is talking about is immediately under the Files heading on the General tab of the Preferences dialog. You can optionally display an autosave confirmation before the autosave and set the autosave interval in the box. I use 5 minutes. The autosave only occurs at this interval if you have made changes to the file. The third option sets a timeout on the Save changes on closing. After that timeout period any changes are automatically saved. The preference settings are discussed more fully in https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html David Cousens On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 22:18 -0600, David Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > I am away from my computer right now so I cannot confirm the exact wording, > but it s something like how often to make > backups. I dont remember the default. It may be only 5 minutes, I have it > set to 30 minutes but I religiously do > manual saves before certain activities such as imports. > > My tablet is messing with me, excuse the sloppy writing. > > David C > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 9:34 PM Lorrie Laskey > Hi David, > > > > Here are my responses. > > Retain log file set to 15 days. > > No * before the filename in the title bar. > > What is this "the amount of time set in that preference section has > > passed." that you are referring to? I am not > > finding this in the preferences section. > > > > > > > > David C > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > Here's what I did. > > > > > > > >- I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then > > > >closed the file. > > > >- Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file. > > > >- Made a change and saved it which created a log file. > > > >- Closed the same file and repeated these steps. > > > >- No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash" > > > > file > > > >remained. > > > > > > > > Is something wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lorrie, > > > > > > > > > > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it > > > > > would > > > > > appear you have opened a backup copy of the > > > > > file, which is why it has the form > > > > > "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". > > > > > > > > > > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash > > > > > it" > > > > > has just opened and renames it > > > > > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a > > > > > logfile > > > > > ".gnucash..log" > > > > > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current > > > > > session. > > > > > > > > > > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in > > > > > GnuCash > > > > > any changes are saved to ".gnucash" > > > > > In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of > > > > > "finances.gnucash". > > > > > > > > > > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the > > > > > file > > > > > you are currently using as the main > > > > > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". > > > > > > > > > > See > > > > > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html > > > > > for a detailed explanation of this. > > > > > > > > > > David Cousens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and > > > > > > seconds > > > > > when > > > > > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have > > > > > > tried > > > > > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to > > > > > > work > > > > > or > > > > > > understand what it is doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help this morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved > > > > > > > > the > > > > > file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is > > > > > > > > using the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" > > > > > > > but the > > > > > log > > > > > > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > > > > > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back > > > > > > > t
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi David, I think I found it. The autosave time interval is set to 5 mins. I tested it. I made a change. Wait 5 mins and it mostly works. A log file was created at 5 mins and the finance.gnucash file was updated at 5 mins. However, the finance.gnucash file did not append the date,time,min and sec to the file name. Does this mean that something is wrong? On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:19 PM David Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > I am away from my computer right now so I cannot confirm the exact > wording, but it s something like how often to make backups. I dont > remember the default. It may be only 5 minutes, I have it set to 30 minutes > but I religiously do manual saves before certain activities such as imports. > > My tablet is messing with me, excuse the sloppy writing. > > David C > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 9:34 PM Lorrie Laskey >> Hi David, >> >> Here are my responses. >> >>1. Retain log file set to 15 days. >>2. No * before the filename in the title bar. >> >> What is this "the amount of time set in that preference section has >> passed." that you are referring to? I am not finding this in the >> preferences section. >> >> >> >> David C >> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey wrote: >>> Hi David, Here's what I did. - I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then closed the file. - Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file. - Made a change and saved it which created a log file. - Closed the same file and repeated these steps. - No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash" file remained. Is something wrong? On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens wrote: > Lorrie, > > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it would > appear you have opened a backup copy of the > file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". > > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it" > has just opened and renames it > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a logfile > ".gnucash..log" > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current > session. > > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in GnuCash > any changes are saved to ".gnucash" > In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of > "finances.gnucash". > > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the file > you are currently using as the main > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". > > See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html > for a detailed explanation of this. > > David Cousens > > > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > Hi Colin, > > > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds > when > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. > > > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have tried > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to work > or > > understand what it is doing. > > > > Thanks for your help this morning. > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the > file. > > > > > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the > > > > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the > log > > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > > > > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 > > > > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the > > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to > > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened > > > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the same > > > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the file > > > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want to > > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with > > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Lorrie, I am away from my computer right now so I cannot confirm the exact wording, but it s something like how often to make backups. I dont remember the default. It may be only 5 minutes, I have it set to 30 minutes but I religiously do manual saves before certain activities such as imports. My tablet is messing with me, excuse the sloppy writing. David C On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 9:34 PM Lorrie Laskey Hi David, > > Here are my responses. > >1. Retain log file set to 15 days. >2. No * before the filename in the title bar. > > What is this "the amount of time set in that preference section has > passed." that you are referring to? I am not finding this in the > preferences section. > > > > David C > >> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> Here's what I did. >>> >>>- I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then >>>closed the file. >>>- Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file. >>>- Made a change and saved it which created a log file. >>>- Closed the same file and repeated these steps. >>>- No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash" >>> file >>>remained. >>> >>> Is something wrong? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Lorrie, >>> > >>> > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it >>> would >>> > appear you have opened a backup copy of the >>> > file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". >>> > >>> > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it" >>> > has just opened and renames it >>> > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a >>> logfile >>> > ".gnucash..log" >>> > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current >>> > session. >>> > >>> > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in >>> GnuCash >>> > any changes are saved to ".gnucash" >>> > In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of >>> > "finances.gnucash". >>> > >>> > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the >>> file >>> > you are currently using as the main >>> > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". >>> > >>> > See >>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html >>> > for a detailed explanation of this. >>> > >>> > David Cousens >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >>> > > Hi Colin, >>> > > >>> > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and >>> seconds >>> > when >>> > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. >>> > > >>> > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have >>> tried >>> > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to >>> work >>> > or >>> > > understand what it is doing. >>> > > >>> > > Thanks for your help this morning. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey >>> wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Hi Colin, >>> > > > > >>> > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved >>> the >>> > file. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is >>> using the >>> > > > >>> > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but >>> the >>> > log >>> > > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash >>> > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 >>> > > > >>> > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes >>> the >>> > > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to >>> > > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened >>> > > > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the >>> same >>> > > > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the >>> file >>> > > > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want >>> to >>> > > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with >>> > > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. >>> > > > >>> > > > Colin >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > ___ >>> > > gnucash-user mailing list >>> > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> > > - >>> > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> > >>> > >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferen
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi David, Here are my responses. 1. Retain log file set to 15 days. 2. No * before the filename in the title bar. What is this "the amount of time set in that preference section has passed." that you are referring to? I am not finding this in the preferences section. David C > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> Here's what I did. >> >>- I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then >>closed the file. >>- Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file. >>- Made a change and saved it which created a log file. >>- Closed the same file and repeated these steps. >>- No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash" >> file >>remained. >> >> Is something wrong? >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens >> wrote: >> >> > Lorrie, >> > >> > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it >> would >> > appear you have opened a backup copy of the >> > file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". >> > >> > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it" >> > has just opened and renames it >> > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a >> logfile >> > ".gnucash..log" >> > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current >> > session. >> > >> > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in GnuCash >> > any changes are saved to ".gnucash" >> > In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of >> > "finances.gnucash". >> > >> > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the file >> > you are currently using as the main >> > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". >> > >> > See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html >> > for a detailed explanation of this. >> > >> > David Cousens >> > >> > >> > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> > > Hi Colin, >> > > >> > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds >> > when >> > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. >> > > >> > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have >> tried >> > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to >> work >> > or >> > > understand what it is doing. >> > > >> > > Thanks for your help this morning. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi Colin, >> > > > > >> > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the >> > file. >> > > > > >> > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using >> the >> > > > >> > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but >> the >> > log >> > > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? >> > > > > >> > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash >> > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 >> > > > >> > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the >> > > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to >> > > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened >> > > > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the >> same >> > > > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the >> file >> > > > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want >> to >> > > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with >> > > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. >> > > > >> > > > Colin >> > > > >> > > >> > > ___ >> > > gnucash-user mailing list >> > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> > > - >> > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > >> > >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, plea
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Lorrie, That looks OK apart from not creating the backup file which should have been created when you opened the file to to make the change , saved it and then closed the file. (I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned adding an .xml file extension. There is no need to do that as the .gnucash is the correct extension.) There should have been a file finances.gnucash..gnucash with the same roughly as the log file. It may differ by a few seconds. has the format "MMDDHHMMSS". In most cases the datestamp on the log file and the backup file only differ by 1-2 s on my system with the backup file created first and then the log file. There is a preference in the Edit->Preferences General tab where you can set the file retention period for the backups and log files. I usually leave it at the default of 30 days as I have terrabytes of free space on my system but it is generally a good idea to set this so you have a few backup and logfiles on your system so you can recover maximum data if you ever have a file corruption issue. This is only likely if GnuCash or the OS crashes while writing to the file. David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Lorrie, If, at some time in the past you modified that data file with that (short) filename by going into Edit >Preferences > General and selecting 'Retain log/backup files: Never, then no log or backup files will be generated. You did not do that because you do see .log files being generated. However, backup files are not made unless you have entered or changed a transaction or information in the Accounts page, for example, and the amount of time set in that preference section has passed. A quick way to tell if GnuCash will create a backup is to notice if there is a asterisk before the filename in the title bar. If so, the file is 'dirty' and needs to be saved and possibly backed up. If you do File > Save before that amount of time has passed, there will not be a backup with the the long series of numbers in the filename. If you do File > Quit when there is an asterisk in front of the file name, GnuCash will warn you that you have unsaved data. That is the long answer. David C On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM Lorrie Laskey wrote: > Hi David, > > Here's what I did. > >- I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then >closed the file. >- Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file. >- Made a change and saved it which created a log file. >- Closed the same file and repeated these steps. >- No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash" file >remained. > > Is something wrong? > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens > wrote: > > > Lorrie, > > > > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it > would > > appear you have opened a backup copy of the > > file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". > > > > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it" > > has just opened and renames it > > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a > logfile > > ".gnucash..log" > > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current > > session. > > > > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in GnuCash > > any changes are saved to ".gnucash" > > In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of > > "finances.gnucash". > > > > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the file > > you are currently using as the main > > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". > > > > See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html > > for a detailed explanation of this. > > > > David Cousens > > > > > > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds > > when > > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. > > > > > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have > tried > > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to > work > > or > > > understand what it is doing. > > > > > > Thanks for your help this morning. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the > > file. > > > > > > > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using > the > > > > > > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but > the > > log > > > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > > > > > > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 > > > > > > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the > > > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to > > > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened > > > > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the same > > > > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the > file > > > > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want to > > > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with > > > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > - > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription p
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi David, Here's what I did. - I did a "save as" and renamed the file to "finances.gnucash" then closed the file. - Reopened Gnucash which opened the very same file. - Made a change and saved it which created a log file. - Closed the same file and repeated these steps. - No backup file was created . Only the original "finances.gnucash" file remained. Is something wrong? On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM David Cousens wrote: > Lorrie, > > At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it would > appear you have opened a backup copy of the > file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". > > Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it" > has just opened and renames it > ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a logfile > ".gnucash..log" > which records the changes to the file which occur during the current > session. > > When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in GnuCash > any changes are saved to ".gnucash" > In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of > "finances.gnucash". > > You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the file > you are currently using as the main > file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". > > See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html > for a detailed explanation of this. > > David Cousens > > > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > Hi Colin, > > > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds > when > > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. > > > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have tried > > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to work > or > > understand what it is doing. > > > > Thanks for your help this morning. > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the > file. > > > > > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the > > > > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the > log > > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > > > > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 > > > > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the > > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to > > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened > > > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the same > > > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the file > > > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want to > > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with > > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Lorrie, At some point instead of opening the main file "finances.gnucash" it would appear you have opened a backup copy of the file, which is why it has the form "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash". Each time Gnucash is opened, it copies the file ".gnucash it" has just opened and renames it ".gnucash..gnucash" . It also creates a logfile ".gnucash..log" which records the changes to the file which occur during the current session. When you exit or when you make changes or use the Save button in GnuCash any changes are saved to ".gnucash" In your case ="finances.gnucash.20181202" instead of "finances.gnucash". You can restore this to the normal situation simply by renaming the file you are currently using as the main file, "finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash", as "finances.gnucash". See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html for a detailed explanation of this. David Cousens On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 10:14 -0800, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > Hi Colin, > > I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds when > a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. > > My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have tried > and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to work or > understand what it is doing. > > Thanks for your help this morning. > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: > > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the file. > > > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the > > > > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the log > > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 > > > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the > > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to > > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened > > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the same > > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the file > > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want to > > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with > > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. > > > > Colin > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Lorrie, You also should take a look at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_is_my_file_name_getting_longer_and_longer.3F David On December 2, 2018, at 11:47 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: Hi Colin, I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds when a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have tried and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to work or understand what it is doing. Thanks for your help this morning. On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the file. > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the log > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the same > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the file > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want to > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. > > Colin > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
#2 If you are using Windows 10 the latest update improved Windows Defender. Look at your messages (bottom right corner of screen and check to see if defender has blocked it, if so click on the message and it will take you to the defender window where you can enter gnucash. exe as a trusted app, but you must do it by starting at C: and work your way through to gnucash.exe and click on open and gnucash.exe will be added to trusted apps. Hope this helps it worked for me. Regards Philip Burg ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi Colin, I understand. Since I don't really need to know the minute and seconds when a file is saved at this time, I will leave the file name as it is. My next topic, for another email, is how to set up a budget. I have tried and watched videos and read documentation but never quite get it to work or understand what it is doing. Thanks for your help this morning. On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM Colin Law wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > Hi Colin, > > > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the file. > > > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the > name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the log > file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 > > If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the > current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to > that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened > automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the same > as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the file > with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want to > give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with > the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. > > Colin > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > Hi Colin, > > The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the file. > > However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the name > that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the log file > name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? > > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash > finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 If you used Save As to save to that file, then that file becomes the current file in use so when you later use Save it will save back to that file again (and that is the file that will be re-opened automatically when you open Gnucash). Again this is exactly the same as will happen with MS Word for example. Save As means "save the file with this new name and then keep using the new name". If you want to give it a different name then use Save As just once to save it with the name you want and thereafter Save will save back to that file. Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi Colin, The "save" option did get focus once I made a change and saved the file. However, the file name doesn't look right. See below. It is using the name that I created when I used "save as" though I used "save" but the log file name looks right. What is happening? Is this a problem? - finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash - finances.gnucash.20181202.gnucash.20181202095503 Thanks, On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 9:15 AM Colin Law wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 17:11, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > So I need to use "save" instead of "save as"? My "save" option is grayed > out. > > It will be greyed out until you change something. Once you change > something then it should be enabled. If not then that probably means > you did a Save As and selected sqlite as the file type. If that is > the case then do Save As, select XML, browse to the folder where you > want the file and click the OK, or Save button or whatever it is. > Then close and re-open gnucash, it should re-open the xml file (you > can see the file name in the top bar) and then the Save button should > be back to normal. > > Colin > > > > > Thanks, > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:53 AM Colin Law wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 16:40, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select > one > >> > topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to > follow the > >> > messages. > >> > > >> > #1 Saving > >> > I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it > seems. I > >> > have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option. > >> > > >> > In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file" > issue. > >> > >> Save is the right way to do it. That will save back into whichever > >> file you have open. Just the same as MS Word or other applications. > >> If you use Save As then it will create a new file with the name you > >> give it (or overwrite any existing file with that name. When you next > >> open GC it will open *that* file not the original. If you want to > >> open a file other than the last one used then use File Open and browse > >> to it. While on this subject, I hope you are making a regular backup > >> of your accounts file in case of computer failure. > >> > >> > Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to > save > >> > it as an xml file. > >> > >> For most users just using the default xml is the right way. Don't > >> worry about the other options. If you needed them you would know what > >> they mean. > >> > >> > > >> > #2 > >> > Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other > methods > >> > to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one > >> > computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated. > >> > >> If you get the Lock file warning when you open GC that means that GC > >> probably did not close down properly the last time you used it. > >> Either GC or Windows crashed for example, or you did a forced > >> powerdown of the PC rather than a normal shutdown. It is only a > >> warning, you can just say Open Anyway, provided you have not already > >> got the file open in another GnuCash instance or on another computer. > >> If it happens regularly there is something wrong though. > >> > >> Colin > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 17:11, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > Hi, > > So I need to use "save" instead of "save as"? My "save" option is grayed out. It will be greyed out until you change something. Once you change something then it should be enabled. If not then that probably means you did a Save As and selected sqlite as the file type. If that is the case then do Save As, select XML, browse to the folder where you want the file and click the OK, or Save button or whatever it is. Then close and re-open gnucash, it should re-open the xml file (you can see the file name in the top bar) and then the Save button should be back to normal. Colin > > Thanks, > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:53 AM Colin Law wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 16:40, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select one >> > topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to follow the >> > messages. >> > >> > #1 Saving >> > I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it seems. I >> > have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option. >> > >> > In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file" issue. >> >> Save is the right way to do it. That will save back into whichever >> file you have open. Just the same as MS Word or other applications. >> If you use Save As then it will create a new file with the name you >> give it (or overwrite any existing file with that name. When you next >> open GC it will open *that* file not the original. If you want to >> open a file other than the last one used then use File Open and browse >> to it. While on this subject, I hope you are making a regular backup >> of your accounts file in case of computer failure. >> >> > Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to save >> > it as an xml file. >> >> For most users just using the default xml is the right way. Don't >> worry about the other options. If you needed them you would know what >> they mean. >> >> > >> > #2 >> > Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other methods >> > to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one >> > computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated. >> >> If you get the Lock file warning when you open GC that means that GC >> probably did not close down properly the last time you used it. >> Either GC or Windows crashed for example, or you did a forced >> powerdown of the PC rather than a normal shutdown. It is only a >> warning, you can just say Open Anyway, provided you have not already >> got the file open in another GnuCash instance or on another computer. >> If it happens regularly there is something wrong though. >> >> Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi, So I need to use "save" instead of "save as"? My "save" option is grayed out. Thanks, On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:53 AM Colin Law wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 16:40, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select one > > topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to follow > the > > messages. > > > > #1 Saving > > I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it seems. I > > have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option. > > > > In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file" issue. > > Save is the right way to do it. That will save back into whichever > file you have open. Just the same as MS Word or other applications. > If you use Save As then it will create a new file with the name you > give it (or overwrite any existing file with that name. When you next > open GC it will open *that* file not the original. If you want to > open a file other than the last one used then use File Open and browse > to it. While on this subject, I hope you are making a regular backup > of your accounts file in case of computer failure. > > > Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to > save > > it as an xml file. > > For most users just using the default xml is the right way. Don't > worry about the other options. If you needed them you would know what > they mean. > > > > > #2 > > Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other > methods > > to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one > > computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated. > > If you get the Lock file warning when you open GC that means that GC > probably did not close down properly the last time you used it. > Either GC or Windows crashed for example, or you did a forced > powerdown of the PC rather than a normal shutdown. It is only a > warning, you can just say Open Anyway, provided you have not already > got the file open in another GnuCash instance or on another computer. > If it happens regularly there is something wrong though. > > Colin > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 16:40, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > Hi all, > > This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select one > topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to follow the > messages. > > #1 Saving > I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it seems. I > have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option. > > In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file" issue. Save is the right way to do it. That will save back into whichever file you have open. Just the same as MS Word or other applications. If you use Save As then it will create a new file with the name you give it (or overwrite any existing file with that name. When you next open GC it will open *that* file not the original. If you want to open a file other than the last one used then use File Open and browse to it. While on this subject, I hope you are making a regular backup of your accounts file in case of computer failure. > Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to save > it as an xml file. For most users just using the default xml is the right way. Don't worry about the other options. If you needed them you would know what they mean. > > #2 > Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other methods > to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one > computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated. If you get the Lock file warning when you open GC that means that GC probably did not close down properly the last time you used it. Either GC or Windows crashed for example, or you did a forced powerdown of the PC rather than a normal shutdown. It is only a warning, you can just say Open Anyway, provided you have not already got the file open in another GnuCash instance or on another computer. If it happens regularly there is something wrong though. Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] How to save Gnucash and Lock file issues
Hi all, This message is for two topics. If you respond, please either select one topic or divide the message by topic to make it easier for me to follow the messages. #1 Saving I don't understand how to save Gnucash or properly close it, it seems. I have used Gnucash for years and used the "save" option. In the past, I selected "save" but recently ran into "lock file" issue. Next I tried "save as" but then a pop up window appeared asking me to save it as an xml file. I did figure out that I needed to name the file and Gnucash would add the .xml extension. Is this the correct method? What are the different file types for? I really did read the documentation but the save option explanations are too far above my head. Can someone explain what the save options are at an intro level? #2 Recent "lock file" issues forced me to troubleshoot and find other methods to open and save. Note that I am the only person using Gnucash, on one computer. So I don't understand how this file is being generated. Thanks, ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
