Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Ian Keiller via gnucash-user]

It's the date in Preferences> Accounting Period. If this is different to 
the date on the Balance Sheet report they may not match.
With the same date, Net Assets should equal Total Equity on the Balance 
Sheet.

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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

In one of my files/books that holds just US assets (no foreign), when I
click
on the down arrow at the bottom of the screen (to the right of Profits), I
get a
list of assets that I can scroll thru.

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:38 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Thanks for writing, but nothing changes in the display, whether I hold
> down the mouse button or not.
>
> But see David H's screen shot, sent a few minutes ago. That shows many
> currencies, but everything in my book is in US$, so I suspect that's why
> I don't get anything in the drop-down.
>
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 4:23 PM Fred Tydeman  wrote:

> The "Net Assets" value at the bottom of the screen does NOT match the
> Assets account Present(USD) value.
> So, when I saw the word "Net", I assumed Assets-Liability.
> But, as you pointed out, that would be Equity.
>
> If I play with Edit:Preferences:Accounting Period
> I can keep or remove Grand total (at bottom of screen)
> If I change End Date, the Net Assets value does change, but not match.
>   I have tried:   Today, End of this year, End of previous year
> If I change Start Date, the Profits value changes, but the Net Assets
> remains the same.
>

I have 5 files/books of accounts.  3 have some foreign assets, 2 have only
US assets.
For the two books with just US assets , I can get Net Assets in the Summary
Bar to match
Present(USD) for the Assets account if I change Accounting Period End Date
to Today.
For the three books with some foreign assets, I have not been able to get a
match.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

799026 appears to be that bug report (search for "Summary Bar")

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 4:06 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> And I'm pretty sure there is a bug filed on it.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:14 PM, David H wrote:
> > Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
> > Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
> > been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
> > on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
> > currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

The "Net Assets" value at the bottom of the screen does NOT match the
Assets account Present(USD) value.
So, when I saw the word "Net", I assumed Assets-Liability.
But, as you pointed out, that would be Equity.

If I play with Edit:Preferences:Accounting Period
I can keep or remove Grand total (at bottom of screen)
If I change End Date, the Net Assets value does change, but not match.
  I have tried:   Today, End of this year, End of previous year
If I change Start Date, the Profits value changes, but the Net Assets
remains the same.


On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:44 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2/24/2024 2:10 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
>
> Wrong assumption.
>
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
>
> Net Assets.
>
> You need to go back the the tutorial until it is clear to you what are
> "assets", "liabilities", and "equity"
>
> Net EQUITY would be net assets - net liabilities
>
> Michael D Novack
>
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[David H]

And don't forget there's preferences for this :-)

[image: gnucash_MNvtUxxRux.png]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 10:06, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> And I'm pretty sure there is a bug filed on it.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:14 PM, David H wrote:
> > Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
> > Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
> > been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
> > on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
> > currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Adrien Monteleone]

And I'm pretty sure there is a bug filed on it.

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/24/24 2:14 PM, David H wrote:

Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.


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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 2/24/2024 2:10 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:

I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.


Wrong assumption.


If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?


Net Assets.

You need to go back the the tutorial until it is clear to you what are 
"assets", "liabilities", and "equity"


Net EQUITY would be net assets - net liabilities

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

Thanks for writing, but nothing changes in the display, whether I hold
down the mouse button or not.

But see David H's screen shot, sent a few minutes ago. That shows many
currencies, but everything in my book is in US$, so I suspect that's why
I don't get anything in the drop-down.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2024-02-24 15:25, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> With arrow/cursor over "down arrow" on right side of bottom line, Press
> and hold down the left mouse button .
> While still pressing down the left mouse button, press "down
> cursor/arrow button" 
> (can also press up arrow button to scroll thru the list of assets).
> Trying again, it appears one does not need to hold down the Left mouse
> button to scroll thru the list.
> 
> But, I still do not know where the Grand total value comes from.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:08 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
> mailto:stan%2...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
> 
> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
> 
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com 
> 
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the
> drop down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as
> per your balance sheet
> 
> > From: Fred Tydeman  >
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

The grand total net assets on bottom of screen does not match Balance Sheet.
Also, what date is being used for Grand Total net assets?
  Today?
  End of accounting period?

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:36 AM Murugan Muruganandam <
m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> fred
>
> the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down
> select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance
> sheet
>
>
>
> Saludos Cordiales
>
>
> Murugan
> --
> *From:* gnucash-user  hotmail@gnucash.org> on behalf of Fred Tydeman  >
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> *To:* Gnucash Users 
> *Subject:* [GNC] Net Assets
>
> I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
>
> Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

With arrow/cursor over "down arrow" on right side of bottom line, Press and
hold down the left mouse button .
While still pressing down the left mouse button, press "down cursor/arrow
button"
(can also press up arrow button to scroll thru the list of assets).
Trying again, it appears one does not need to hold down the Left mouse
button to scroll thru the list.

But, I still do not know where the Grand total value comes from.

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:08 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
>
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
>
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop
> down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your
> balance sheet
>
> > From: Fred Tydeman 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

Thanks.

Maybe it's because everything is in US dollars in my books. I see from
your screen shot that it gives you different currencies to choose from,
but that wouldn't apply to me.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2024-02-24 15:12, David H wrote:
> Stan,
> 
> This is what it looks like dropped down in Gnucash 5.5.
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> 
> gnucash_Vif9y3IJMz.png
> 
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 09:08, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
> mailto:stan%2...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
> 
> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
> 
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com 
> 
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the
> drop down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as
> per your balance sheet
> 
> > From: Fred Tydeman  >
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[David H]

Stan,

This is what it looks like dropped down in Gnucash 5.5.

Cheers David H.


[image: gnucash_Vif9y3IJMz.png]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 09:08, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
>
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
>
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop
> down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your
> balance sheet
>
> > From: Fred Tydeman 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?

In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down 
> select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance 
> sheet

> From: Fred Tydeman 
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> 
> I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> 
> Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[David H]

Murugan,

Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.

Saludos Cordiales,

David H.


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 05:37, Murugan Muruganandam <
m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> fred
>
> the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down
> select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance
> sheet
>
>
>
> Saludos Cordiales
>
>
> Murugan
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user  hotmail@gnucash.org> on behalf of Fred Tydeman  >
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> To: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: [GNC] Net Assets
>
> I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
>
> Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Murugan Muruganandam]

fred

the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down 
select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance sheet



Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Fred 
Tydeman 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Net Assets

I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?

Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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[GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?

Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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