Re: [GNC] no drop-down accounts list in ledger Transfer column.
IIRC this was a bug having to do with computing the box size for the list on
certain window managers. It took Bob Fewell several tries to get it fixed so
unfortunately the fix is to upgrade. You may be able to use the 4.13 .deb from
the Debian Archive, see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian#Using_the_Debian_Archive.
Regards,
John Ralls
> On May 7, 2024, at 03:17, Adrien Monteleone
> wrote:
>
> Hmm.. it has been many moons since I made the move from 3.x to 4.x, so I
> don't see an obvious preference either. But perhaps toggle the:
>
> Preferences > Register > Actions > Auto-raise lists
>
> checkbox and see if that helps.
>
> If not, note as I mentioned, you should still be able to type through the
> tree as before to narrow down your account list to choose from.
>
> So starting with for example:
>
> "Expenses:"
>
> Would bring up a (albeit now truncated) list of Expense accounts can get you
> started. Then start typing the next branch of the tree, followed by your
> separator. (default being ":") Proceed as before from there.
>
> You may (or may not) need to uncheck:
>
> Preferences > Register Defaults > Other Defaults > Only display leaf account
> names
>
>
> Are you trying to access the *same* book with too different GnuCash versions?
>
> While this is possible within a small release window, it probably isn't a
> 'best practice' if it can be avoided.
>
> When advancing the major release number, some lack of backwards compatibility
> occurs. (not sure that is worded correctly) Usually, in conjunction with the
> next major release, the last minor release is issued such that both can read
> the same file.
>
> Thus, at a bare minimum, it is recommended to upgrade to the last minor
> release of a major version before moving to the next major version. Since the
> last release of 3.x was 3.11, that would mean if your other computer is on
> 4.8, you need the one on 3.8 to at least be on 3.11 so it can properly read
> the 4.8 file. (the 4.8 version should be able to read a 3.8 file with little
> issue, but it appears in your case, you are going back and forth, not one way
> from 3.x to 4.x)
>
> Is there some reason you can't get them both sync'd up to 4.8? (or 4.14 which
> is the last of that series)
>
> Is there some reason you can't advance them both to the current release? (5.6)
>
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/7/24 3:24 AM, v@scottsonline.org.uk wrote:
>> I've had a hunt through all the preference stuff, but can't see anything
>> that looks relevant. Maybe it's too obvious to spot :-{
>> Account completion works, but doesn't really help if you can't remember the
>> account name!
>> But to reword/clarify my issue.
>> Working with 4.8, I have two separate accounts files. One of them shows a
>> dropdown list of accounts on clicking in in the Transfer field, the other
>> doesn't. There seems no reason the behaviours should be different.
>> The latter shows either for an existing transaction the highlighted current
>> contents or for a new transaction, initially blank (highlighted plus a
>> down-arrow) then the first account from the accounts tree with an up-arrow
>> when clicked.
>> On 3.8 I always get a dropdown accounts list.
>
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Re: [GNC] no drop-down accounts list in ledger Transfer column.
IIRC this was a bug having to do with computing the box size for the list on
certain window managers. It took Bob Fewell several tries to get it fixed so
unfortunately the fix is to upgrade. You may be able to use the 4.13 .deb from
the Debian Archive, see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian#Using_the_Debian_Archive.
Regards,
John Ralls
> On May 7, 2024, at 03:17, Adrien Monteleone
> wrote:
>
> Hmm.. it has been many moons since I made the move from 3.x to 4.x, so I
> don't see an obvious preference either. But perhaps toggle the:
>
> Preferences > Register > Actions > Auto-raise lists
>
> checkbox and see if that helps.
>
> If not, note as I mentioned, you should still be able to type through the
> tree as before to narrow down your account list to choose from.
>
> So starting with for example:
>
> "Expenses:"
>
> Would bring up a (albeit now truncated) list of Expense accounts can get you
> started. Then start typing the next branch of the tree, followed by your
> separator. (default being ":") Proceed as before from there.
>
> You may (or may not) need to uncheck:
>
> Preferences > Register Defaults > Other Defaults > Only display leaf account
> names
>
>
> Are you trying to access the *same* book with too different GnuCash versions?
>
> While this is possible within a small release window, it probably isn't a
> 'best practice' if it can be avoided.
>
> When advancing the major release number, some lack of backwards compatibility
> occurs. (not sure that is worded correctly) Usually, in conjunction with the
> next major release, the last minor release is issued such that both can read
> the same file.
>
> Thus, at a bare minimum, it is recommended to upgrade to the last minor
> release of a major version before moving to the next major version. Since the
> last release of 3.x was 3.11, that would mean if your other computer is on
> 4.8, you need the one on 3.8 to at least be on 3.11 so it can properly read
> the 4.8 file. (the 4.8 version should be able to read a 3.8 file with little
> issue, but it appears in your case, you are going back and forth, not one way
> from 3.x to 4.x)
>
> Is there some reason you can't get them both sync'd up to 4.8? (or 4.14 which
> is the last of that series)
>
> Is there some reason you can't advance them both to the current release? (5.6)
>
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/7/24 3:24 AM, v@scottsonline.org.uk wrote:
>> I've had a hunt through all the preference stuff, but can't see anything
>> that looks relevant. Maybe it's too obvious to spot :-{
>> Account completion works, but doesn't really help if you can't remember the
>> account name!
>> But to reword/clarify my issue.
>> Working with 4.8, I have two separate accounts files. One of them shows a
>> dropdown list of accounts on clicking in in the Transfer field, the other
>> doesn't. There seems no reason the behaviours should be different.
>> The latter shows either for an existing transaction the highlighted current
>> contents or for a new transaction, initially blank (highlighted plus a
>> down-arrow) then the first account from the accounts tree with an up-arrow
>> when clicked.
>> On 3.8 I always get a dropdown accounts list.
>
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Re: [GNC] no drop-down accounts list in ledger Transfer column.
Hmm.. it has been many moons since I made the move from 3.x to 4.x, so I
don't see an obvious preference either. But perhaps toggle the:
Preferences > Register > Actions > Auto-raise lists
checkbox and see if that helps.
If not, note as I mentioned, you should still be able to type through
the tree as before to narrow down your account list to choose from.
So starting with for example:
"Expenses:"
Would bring up a (albeit now truncated) list of Expense accounts can get
you started. Then start typing the next branch of the tree, followed by
your separator. (default being ":") Proceed as before from there.
You may (or may not) need to uncheck:
Preferences > Register Defaults > Other Defaults > Only display leaf
account names
Are you trying to access the *same* book with too different GnuCash
versions?
While this is possible within a small release window, it probably isn't
a 'best practice' if it can be avoided.
When advancing the major release number, some lack of backwards
compatibility occurs. (not sure that is worded correctly) Usually, in
conjunction with the next major release, the last minor release is
issued such that both can read the same file.
Thus, at a bare minimum, it is recommended to upgrade to the last minor
release of a major version before moving to the next major version.
Since the last release of 3.x was 3.11, that would mean if your other
computer is on 4.8, you need the one on 3.8 to at least be on 3.11 so it
can properly read the 4.8 file. (the 4.8 version should be able to read
a 3.8 file with little issue, but it appears in your case, you are going
back and forth, not one way from 3.x to 4.x)
Is there some reason you can't get them both sync'd up to 4.8? (or 4.14
which is the last of that series)
Is there some reason you can't advance them both to the current release?
(5.6)
Regards,
Adrien
On 5/7/24 3:24 AM, v@scottsonline.org.uk wrote:
I've had a hunt through all the preference stuff, but can't see anything
that looks relevant. Maybe it's too obvious to spot :-{
Account completion works, but doesn't really help if you can't remember
the account name!
But to reword/clarify my issue.
Working with 4.8, I have two separate accounts files. One of them shows
a dropdown list of accounts on clicking in in the Transfer field, the
other doesn't. There seems no reason the behaviours should be different.
The latter shows either for an existing transaction the highlighted
current contents or for a new transaction, initially blank (highlighted
plus a down-arrow) then the first account from the accounts tree with an
up-arrow when clicked.
On 3.8 I always get a dropdown accounts list.
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Re: [GNC] no drop-down accounts list in ledger Transfer column.
On 06/05/2024 23:19, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
4.x introduced a better 'type ahead search' in that field if I'm not
mistaken, which could be why you see a discrepancy between 3.8 & 4.8.
You can still use the old method either directly by typing the beginning
of the full account path with separators like before to speed things up,
or just start typing something matching the desired account and the list
will be limited accordingly.
There is also a global preference I believe to use the old behavior.
(pre 4.x)
If this isn't what you are describing, then please excuse the noise.
Regards,
Adrien
Thanks for the reply.
I've had a hunt through all the preference stuff, but can't see anything
that looks relevant. Maybe it's too obvious to spot :-{
Account completion works, but doesn't really help if you can't remember
the account name!
But to reword/clarify my issue.
Working with 4.8, I have two separate accounts files. One of them shows
a dropdown list of accounts on clicking in in the Transfer field, the
other doesn't. There seems no reason the behaviours should be different.
The latter shows either for an existing transaction the highlighted
current contents or for a new transaction, initially blank (highlighted
plus a down-arrow) then the first account from the accounts tree with an
up-arrow when clicked.
On 3.8 I always get a dropdown accounts list.
(BTW considered comments are never noise IMO)
Thanks again.
--
Mike Scott
Harlow, Essex, England
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Re: [GNC] no drop-down accounts list in ledger Transfer column.
4.x introduced a better 'type ahead search' in that field if I'm not mistaken, which could be why you see a discrepancy between 3.8 & 4.8. You can still use the old method either directly by typing the beginning of the full account path with separators like before to speed things up, or just start typing something matching the desired account and the list will be limited accordingly. There is also a global preference I believe to use the old behavior. (pre 4.x) If this isn't what you are describing, then please excuse the noise. Regards, Adrien On 5/6/24 4:01 AM, v@scottsonline.org.uk wrote: Hi all. A "cannot happen" problem. My desktop box runs gnucash v4.8 on linux mint. I create a new accounts file, add 3 accounts aaa, bbb, ccc. I open bbb and to transfer (say) £100 from aaa to bbb. I click in the Transfer column, and get a highlighted empty box with a down arrow at right. I click on the down arrow, and see just one suggested account, aaa. No sign of ccc. However, if I then type in 'ccc' and Enter to confirm the entry, then on clicking again in the Transfer column, only ccc is offered. The weird thing is that (fortunately!) it works perfectly on my long-standing household accounts file - clicking on the Transfer column gives a long list of accounts as expected. But it fails on a second smaller accounts file. However, with gnucash 3.8 on an older mint, all works perfectly - both existing files and a new file (as above) offer a full set of accounts in the Transfer drop-down. Fortunately, ^T offers a workaround, albeit cumbersome. Any clue as to what's going on? An unresolved note at https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-October/097936.html about what seems to be the same problem suggests it's to do with MATE as that poster says it works under KDE. However, I get the same issue under KDE. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
