Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Keith N. McKenna]

Stan Brown wrote:

On 2023-04-17 15:32, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Paul Kroitor wrote:

  From the web I see that this was a known issue with Windows 10 in the
past, apparently caused by the file association for .exe files being
corrupted, but I don't see reports anywhere for Windows 11. If this
was the case, it would presumably happen with other .exe files as well.

Some places suggest resetting all file associations to their defaults,
which you could try (but you'd have to recustomize any you had
modified). There are some registry fixes (.reg files) floating around
to "fix this" but I would take that with a boatload of salt unless you
were sure the source was reliable.


It is possible that the system that the op has is an S mode operating
system. I had a similar problem with an inexpensive Gateway convertible
that I picked up to take with me when I am on the road. It will only
accept programs that are approved by Microsoft. So if it isn't in the
store you cannot load it on your system.




Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Thanks for the link Stan. Have just gotten out os S mode on the Gateway 
and loading programs I need that are not in the store.


Regards
Keith


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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Stan Brown]

On 2023-04-17 15:32, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Paul Kroitor wrote:
>>  From the web I see that this was a known issue with Windows 10 in the
>> past, apparently caused by the file association for .exe files being
>> corrupted, but I don't see reports anywhere for Windows 11. If this
>> was the case, it would presumably happen with other .exe files as well.
>>
>> Some places suggest resetting all file associations to their defaults,
>> which you could try (but you'd have to recustomize any you had
>> modified). There are some registry fixes (.reg files) floating around
>> to "fix this" but I would take that with a boatload of salt unless you
>> were sure the source was reliable.
> 
> It is possible that the system that the op has is an S mode operating
> system. I had a similar problem with an inexpensive Gateway convertible
> that I picked up to take with me when I am on the road. It will only
> accept programs that are approved by Microsoft. So if it isn't in the
> store you cannot load it on your system.



Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Fred Bone]

On 17 April 2023 at 18:38, Adrien Monteleone said:

> Ah, forgot about the 'S' variant. If I'm not mistaken, it is also 
> possible to convert a regular installation to 'S', but you'd have to know
> you did it. It won't be an accident.

Other way round.

You can install Windows in "S" mode (or get a machine with it 
preinstalled), and then revert to normal, but you can't change *to* "S" 
mode. It wouldn't make sense, because "S" mode is supposed to guarantee 
that only "approved" programs are present, and once the machione ahs been 
running in normal mode that guarantee can't apply.


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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Adrien Monteleone]

Ah, forgot about the 'S' variant. If I'm not mistaken, it is also 
possible to convert a regular installation to 'S', but you'd have to 
know you did it. It won't be an accident.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/17/23 5:32 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

It is possible that the system that the op has is an S mode operating 
system. I had a similar problem with an inexpensive Gateway convertible 
that I picked up to take with me when I am on the road. It will only 
accept programs that are approved by Microsoft. So if it isn't in the 
store you cannot load it on your system.


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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Keith N. McKenna]

Paul Kroitor wrote:

 From the web I see that this was a known issue with Windows 10 in the past, 
apparently caused by the file association for .exe files being corrupted, but I 
don't see reports anywhere for Windows 11. If this was the case, it would 
presumably happen with other .exe files as well.

Some places suggest resetting all file associations to their defaults, which you could 
try (but you'd have to recustomize any you had modified). There are some registry fixes 
(.reg files) floating around to "fix this" but I would take that with a 
boatload of salt unless you were sure the source was reliable.

Paul


It is possible that the system that the op has is an S mode operating 
system. I had a similar problem with an inexpensive Gateway convertible 
that I picked up to take with me when I am on the road. It will only 
accept programs that are approved by Microsoft. So if it isn't in the 
store you cannot load it on your system.


Regards
Keith N. McKenna



-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On Behalf 
Of Paul Kroitor
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 9:59 AM
To: 'Glenn Fowler' ; 'David H' 
Cc: 'GnuCash users group' 
Subject: Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

The file shows "Application" in the Type column, which is exactly what you 
would expect from an .exe file if Hide Extensions was on. Thus that aspect seems fine to 
me.

It looks to me more like Windows 11 is further tightening the control of 
unsigned executables. Perhaps there's a Windows Setting somewhere that now 
defaults to the behaviour you're getting, or the manufacturer / local GPO / 
domain GPO set it to this.

There can be a secondary data stream in downloaded Windows executables that is 
used to distinguish between trusted and untrusted files. See 
https://www.howtogeek.com/70012/what-causes-the-file-downloaded-from-the-internet-warning-and-how-can-i-easily-remove-it/
 . In the past this issue has simply caused a warning, but they are tightening 
this up in Win 11.

Failing that, perhaps somehow the executable is really damaged?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On Behalf 
Of Glenn Fowler
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:49 AM
To: David H 
Cc: GnuCash users group 
Subject: Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

Good point, I forgot about that.

However, the machine is acting as if it doesn't recognize the extension:
".setup".

Hopefully Christopher can shed some light on it.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:05 AM David H  wrote:


Glenn

Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions
is on or off.

Cheers David Halverson

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:


Hi,

It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that
or did you download it from a different source other than github or sourceforge?


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:


I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a
new Windows 11  laptop.

I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe.
file will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.

  There

is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run

the

programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[David H]

Christopher,

Just a bit of Gnucash mailing list etiquette - please use reply all to keep
everything on the mailing list so anyone following this thread is across
everything :-)

As you'll see at the bottom of your properties screenshot that you sent me
you have a security warning - typically when I see these and I trust the
file in question I would check the Unblock checkbox and then ok on the
popup and then double click the file to try again.  Not sure if this is
part of the issue or not. I have a vague recollection that when I
originally installed on Win 11 (it was a awhile ago now) I got the same
sort of error but clicking on "No" on the store prompt and trying again
allowed it to install - but not sure on that anymore.

Glad you got it working anyway.

Cheers David H.


On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 00:08, Christopher Smallman  wrote:

> Hi David Yes here is the second screenshot showing properties. Does it
> help to establish why the  .exe will not run?
>
> As a matter of interest I have now copied the set up for version 4.9 which
> I was running on my old laptop to a disk drive and run it on this new
> laptop successfully so I have now achieved  the link through  google drive
> that I need to use remotely.
>
> It would be nice to be able to upgrade to Version 5  if I am able to run
> the download!!!   Is it possible to contact GnuCash to see if there may be
> a glitch somewhere?
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
>
>  wontOn 10 April 2023 at 13:09 David H  wrote:
>
> Christopher
>
> You seem to have had more than one attempt to download the .exe file. Can
> you right click on the file and post a screen snapshot of the properties
> showing full file name + extension and file size as you cut them off in
> your original image.
>
> Thans David H.
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:03, Christopher Smallman 
> wrote:
>
> I get a message from the store  ' The thing you are looking for isn't
> there'  !!!
>
>
> On 10 April 2023 at 11:58 David H  wrote:
>
> What happens if you click no on the prompt ?
>
> Cheers David H
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 8:52 pm, Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
> Windows 11  laptop.
>
> I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
> will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.   There
> is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run the
> programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user]

Hi everyone and thanks for all of your help and suggestions.  I thought that I 
would try to download V 5 to my desktop and it worked perfectly. I then copied 
the download file to a flash drive & used it to open V 5 on my new laptop. Also 
worked perfectly & I am up to date.
The problem appears to be with the version of windows 11 on the new laptop 
although  all other downloads have opened  without a problem.
If any one comes across a solution to the Windows glitch / GnuCash I would 
appreciate  a note. 
Many thanks again 
Christopher 



> On 10 April 2023 at 13:14 "Fross, Michael"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Christopher - I don't think it's an executable.  Windows is trying to
> find the program to open it with and can't find it in the store.  I'd
> re-download it from the official store and turn on extension visibility per
> David H.'s comment and try again.
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:06 AM David H  wrote:
> 
> > Glenn
> >
> > Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions is on
> > or off.
> >
> > Cheers David Halverson
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that or
> > did
> > > you download it from a different source other than github or sourceforge?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
> > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
> > > > Windows 11  laptop.
> > > >
> > > > I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
> > > > will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.
> > >  There
> > > > is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run
> > > the
> > > > programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Paul Kroitor]

From the web I see that this was a known issue with Windows 10 in the past, 
apparently caused by the file association for .exe files being corrupted, but I 
don't see reports anywhere for Windows 11. If this was the case, it would 
presumably happen with other .exe files as well.

Some places suggest resetting all file associations to their defaults, which 
you could try (but you'd have to recustomize any you had modified). There are 
some registry fixes (.reg files) floating around to "fix this" but I would take 
that with a boatload of salt unless you were sure the source was reliable.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On Behalf 
Of Paul Kroitor
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 9:59 AM
To: 'Glenn Fowler' ; 'David H' 
Cc: 'GnuCash users group' 
Subject: Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

The file shows "Application" in the Type column, which is exactly what you 
would expect from an .exe file if Hide Extensions was on. Thus that aspect 
seems fine to me.

It looks to me more like Windows 11 is further tightening the control of 
unsigned executables. Perhaps there's a Windows Setting somewhere that now 
defaults to the behaviour you're getting, or the manufacturer / local GPO / 
domain GPO set it to this.

There can be a secondary data stream in downloaded Windows executables that is 
used to distinguish between trusted and untrusted files. See 
https://www.howtogeek.com/70012/what-causes-the-file-downloaded-from-the-internet-warning-and-how-can-i-easily-remove-it/
 . In the past this issue has simply caused a warning, but they are tightening 
this up in Win 11.

Failing that, perhaps somehow the executable is really damaged?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On Behalf 
Of Glenn Fowler
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:49 AM
To: David H 
Cc: GnuCash users group 
Subject: Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

Good point, I forgot about that.

However, the machine is acting as if it doesn't recognize the extension:
".setup".

Hopefully Christopher can shed some light on it.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:05 AM David H  wrote:

> Glenn
>
> Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions 
> is on or off.
>
> Cheers David Halverson
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that 
>> or did you download it from a different source other than github or 
>> sourceforge?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user < 
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a 
>> > new Windows 11  laptop.
>> >
>> > I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. 
>> > file will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.
>>  There
>> > is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run
>> the
>> > programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user]

Thanks Michael I have sent a reply to David H. The properties show an .exe 
extension.
There must be a reason!
Chris


> On 10 April 2023 at 13:14 "Fross, Michael"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Christopher - I don't think it's an executable.  Windows is trying to
> find the program to open it with and can't find it in the store.  I'd
> re-download it from the official store and turn on extension visibility per
> David H.'s comment and try again.
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:06 AM David H  wrote:
> 
> > Glenn
> >
> > Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions is on
> > or off.
> >
> > Cheers David Halverson
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that or
> > did
> > > you download it from a different source other than github or sourceforge?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
> > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
> > > > Windows 11  laptop.
> > > >
> > > > I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
> > > > will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.
> > >  There
> > > > is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run
> > > the
> > > > programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Paul Kroitor]

The file shows "Application" in the Type column, which is exactly what you 
would expect from an .exe file if Hide Extensions was on. Thus that aspect 
seems fine to me.

It looks to me more like Windows 11 is further tightening the control of 
unsigned executables. Perhaps there's a Windows Setting somewhere that now 
defaults to the behaviour you're getting, or the manufacturer / local GPO / 
domain GPO set it to this.

There can be a secondary data stream in downloaded Windows executables that is 
used to distinguish between trusted and untrusted files. See 
https://www.howtogeek.com/70012/what-causes-the-file-downloaded-from-the-internet-warning-and-how-can-i-easily-remove-it/
 . In the past this issue has simply caused a warning, but they are tightening 
this up in Win 11.

Failing that, perhaps somehow the executable is really damaged?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On Behalf 
Of Glenn Fowler
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:49 AM
To: David H 
Cc: GnuCash users group 
Subject: Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

Good point, I forgot about that.

However, the machine is acting as if it doesn't recognize the extension:
".setup".

Hopefully Christopher can shed some light on it.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:05 AM David H  wrote:

> Glenn
>
> Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions 
> is on or off.
>
> Cheers David Halverson
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that 
>> or did you download it from a different source other than github or 
>> sourceforge?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user < 
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a 
>> > new Windows 11  laptop.
>> >
>> > I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. 
>> > file will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.
>>  There
>> > is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run
>> the
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Glenn Fowler]

Good point, I forgot about that.

However, the machine is acting as if it doesn't recognize the extension:
".setup".

Hopefully Christopher can shed some light on it.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:05 AM David H  wrote:

> Glenn
>
> Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions is on
> or off.
>
> Cheers David Halverson
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that or did
>> you download it from a different source other than github or sourceforge?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
>> > Windows 11  laptop.
>> >
>> > I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
>> > will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.
>>  There
>> > is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run
>> the
>> > programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
>> > ___
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Fross, Michael]

Hello Christopher - I don't think it's an executable.  Windows is trying to
find the program to open it with and can't find it in the store.  I'd
re-download it from the official store and turn on extension visibility per
David H.'s comment and try again.

Michael

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:06 AM David H  wrote:

> Glenn
>
> Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions is on
> or off.
>
> Cheers David Halverson
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that or
> did
> > you download it from a different source other than github or sourceforge?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
> > > Windows 11  laptop.
> > >
> > > I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
> > > will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.
> >  There
> > > is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run
> > the
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[David H]

Glenn

Is it though?  That possibly depends on whether show file extensions is on
or off.

Cheers David Halverson

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 21:46, Glenn Fowler  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that or did
> you download it from a different source other than github or sourceforge?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
> > Windows 11  laptop.
> >
> > I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
> > will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.
>  There
> > is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run
> the
> > programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[Glenn Fowler]

Hi,

It's missing the ".exe* in the file name. Did you save it like that or did
you download it from a different source other than github or sourceforge?


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:51 AM Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
> Windows 11  laptop.
>
> I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
> will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.   There
> is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run the
> programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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Re: [GNC] set up Gnucash on a new device

[David H]

What happens if you click no on the prompt ?

Cheers David H


On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 8:52 pm, Christopher Smallman via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I am trying to find help with setting up my GnuCash programme on a new
> Windows 11  laptop.
>
> I have downloaded the correct version for Windows 11 but the exe. file
> will not open. I am being asked to search for an App in the store.   There
> is of course no App in the store. How can I   successfully run the
> programme? Screen shot of the message is attached
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