Re: variable scheduled date
On 02/26/2018 08:29 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Adrien Monteleonewrites: > >> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two >> versions back. >> >> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing >> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in >> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They >> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen. >> >> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL. > RHEL is a great server platform. > It SUCKS as a desktop platform. > I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's > really not designed for that. It is designed for long-term stability, > which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new > software. I mainly chose RHEL for my desktop when it was running servers as well as the usual desktop applications. I had been running the regular Red Hat Unix versions up to 7.3. I tried Red Hat 9 and it did not run IBM DB2 very well, that I needed for database work. I started tunning RHEL3 on one machine and upgraded another machine to CentOS 4. One reason I keep running RHEL is just because I cannot stand having to update Fedora systems so often. The minor updates are usually OK, but when a new release comes out, it takes way too much time to install and configure it. It inly takes a couple of hours to install the software, but it usually takes me about a month to get it all configured correctly. And when the releases are now SELinux, getting that right ... . Well if you have done it, you know what I mean. And if you have not, good luck to you. > > Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years? I refresh my > laptop every 3. > I keep them that long. I kept my first machine 14 years, but after four years, I added a second computer and networked them together, and after another four years, I built yet another and kept it until the power supply exploded (at about years old). Until that happened, it was working just fine but by then the power supply was so obsolete that I could not find any with the right power and the right connections. I donated the oldest one to someone who used it for some parts (very good dial-up modem when I no longer needed modems). The next one I junked (dual 550 MHz Pentium III processors, 512 Megabytes RAM). I thought about upping the RAM, but decided against that because those processors were just too slow.I only kept it around because I had a Windows XP license for it to do my taxes on it. My current machine is 64-bits, has a 4-core Xeon processor, 8 GBytes RAM. The mother board will take two Xeon processors, 512 GBytes RAM. At one time, I might have needed that, but right now I sure do not. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 17:40:01 up 32 days, 6:37, 2 users, load average: 4.22, 4.25, 4.43 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
OT: fedora, linux and 32 bit software was Re: variable scheduled date
A lot of us still have old 32 bit machines that have not died yet, but on the other hand today there are many good 64 bit machines available for about $300 to $400. They have really crappy keyboards, no optical drive and other shortcomings but fairly decent displays and performance. You could buy a tablet and add the missing keyboard, optical drive, USB splitter and Ethernet port . David C On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@gmail.com> wrote: > How could I forget about servers? > > True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case. > > As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair, > it’s a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue) > > Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early > 2000s, most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life > with various *nix flavors) > > A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with > Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until > that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE) > > I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB! > of RAM with an old Puppy flavor. > > The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running > don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are > dropping 32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting > slimmer. (mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users > obviously aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent, > safe and secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more > than anything is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for > the bloat of both browsers and websites, those machines would probably > continue to function just fine for several more years. (and might still as > long as they aren’t connected to the internet for anything other than > e-mail) > > But I digress as this is all far from the original topic. > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkinswrote: > > > > Adrien, > > > > Adrien Monteleone writes: > > > >> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two > >> versions back. > >> > >> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing > >> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in > >> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They > >> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen. > >> > >> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL. > > > > RHEL is a great server platform. > > It SUCKS as a desktop platform. > > I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's > > really not designed for that. It is designed for long-term stability, > > which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new > > software. > > > > Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years? I refresh my > > laptop every 3. > > > >> Regards, > >> Adrien > > > > -derek > > > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > -- > > Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory > > Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) > > URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH > > warl...@mit.eduPGP key available > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
Sounds to me like Jean-David is looking for something like a flatpack or snap...a complete self-contained installable that brings it's dependencies with it and runs in a sandbox or other self-contained userspace. But, RHEL 6 doesn't support flatpack or snaps so that's not a solution, either. RBM On 02/26/2018 09:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: How could I forget about servers? True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case. As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair, it’s a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue) Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early 2000s, most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life with various *nix flavors) A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE) I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB! of RAM with an old Puppy flavor. The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are dropping 32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting slimmer. (mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users obviously aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent, safe and secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more than anything is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for the bloat of both browsers and websites, those machines would probably continue to function just fine for several more years. (and might still as long as they aren’t connected to the internet for anything other than e-mail) But I digress as this is all far from the original topic. Regards, Adrien On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkinswrote: Adrien, Adrien Monteleone writes: True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two versions back. I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen. Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL. RHEL is a great server platform. It SUCKS as a desktop platform. I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's really not designed for that. It is designed for long-term stability, which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new software. Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years? I refresh my laptop every 3. Regards, Adrien -derek Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH warl...@mit.eduPGP key available ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
How could I forget about servers? True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case. As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair, it’s a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue) Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early 2000s, most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life with various *nix flavors) A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE) I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB! of RAM with an old Puppy flavor. The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are dropping 32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting slimmer. (mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users obviously aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent, safe and secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more than anything is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for the bloat of both browsers and websites, those machines would probably continue to function just fine for several more years. (and might still as long as they aren’t connected to the internet for anything other than e-mail) But I digress as this is all far from the original topic. Regards, Adrien > On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkinswrote: > > Adrien, > > Adrien Monteleone writes: > >> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two >> versions back. >> >> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing >> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in >> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They >> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen. >> >> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL. > > RHEL is a great server platform. > It SUCKS as a desktop platform. > I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's > really not designed for that. It is designed for long-term stability, > which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new > software. > > Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years? I refresh my > laptop every 3. > >> Regards, >> Adrien > > -derek > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > -- > Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory > Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) > URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH > warl...@mit.eduPGP key available ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
Adrien, Adrien Monteleonewrites: > True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two > versions back. > > I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing > ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in > dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They > can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen. > > Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL. RHEL is a great server platform. It SUCKS as a desktop platform. I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's really not designed for that. It is designed for long-term stability, which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new software. Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years? I refresh my laptop every 3. > Regards, > Adrien -derek > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH warl...@mit.eduPGP key available ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
Jean-David: Does Red Hat have a virtual machine manager available for RHEL 6? I had a similar problem some years ago when I was tied to Debian Stable. My solution was to create a virtual machine running Debian Testing which supported newer versions of the applications I wanted to use. Took care of dependencies without disturbing the integrity of the host machine. RBM On 02/24/2018 09:48 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two versions back. I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen. Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL. Regards, Adrien On Feb 24, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Jean-David Beyerwrote: On 02/23/2018 06:40 PM, David Carlson wrote: I am lost in this thread. I thought that the point of Linux was to use RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software. In fedora that would be "yum install gnucash". Are you saying that does not work? David C Yes, it would not work because the server that would respond to yum is the one Red Hat maintains to support (in my case) RHEL6. Were I running RHEL7, it would get things from that. But in either case, Red Hat do not support Gnucash (and do not support VLC), so I would need to download the rpms from elsewhere. And it is not that easy because the rpm's will not install unless all the dependencies are already there. And to get them is almost impossible for most things. When I downloaded VLC, for example, I needed a few libraries. I found and downloaded some of those. They wanted more. Some of them needed other libraries and they did not exist. So I had to get rid of some and get other versions of those, and so on. It took over a week to get VLC to work. And I was trying to install VLC because some other video player (and mp3 player) stopped working. The only way I got GnuCash to work is that it is not quite as complicated as VLC, and the EPEL project has Gnucash in it. They do not upgrade it though. They have a version that works, and that is that. The EPEL for Gnucash in RHEL7 will not install in RHEL6, and I am not prepared to upgrade my RHEL6 system just to get the latest Gnucash. (Even were I to do that, there is no reason to believe that that version of Gnucash would be the latest, though I suspect it would be more up to date than what I now have.) -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 08:35:01 up 29 days, 21:32, 2 users, load average: 4.64, 4.60, 4.37 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two versions back. I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen. Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL. Regards, Adrien > On Feb 24, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Jean-David Beyerwrote: > > On 02/23/2018 06:40 PM, David Carlson wrote: >> I am lost in this thread. I thought that the point of Linux was to use >> RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software. In fedora that would >> be "yum install gnucash". Are you saying that does not work? >> >> David C >> > > Yes, it would not work because the server that would respond to yum is > the one Red Hat maintains to support (in my case) RHEL6. Were I running > RHEL7, it would get things from that. But in either case, Red Hat do not > support Gnucash (and do not support VLC), so I would need to download > the rpms from elsewhere. And it is not that easy because the rpm's will > not install unless all the dependencies are already there. And to get > them is almost impossible for most things. > > When I downloaded VLC, for example, I needed a few libraries. I found > and downloaded some of those. They wanted more. Some of them needed > other libraries and they did not exist. So I had to get rid of some and > get other versions of those, and so on. It took over a week to get VLC > to work. And I was trying to install VLC because some other video player > (and mp3 player) stopped working. > > The only way I got GnuCash to work is that it is not quite as > complicated as VLC, and the EPEL project has Gnucash in it. They do not > upgrade it though. They have a version that works, and that is that. The > EPEL for Gnucash in RHEL7 will not install in RHEL6, and I am not > prepared to upgrade my RHEL6 system just to get the latest Gnucash. > (Even were I to do that, there is no reason to believe that that version > of Gnucash would be the latest, though I suspect it would be more up to > date than what I now have.) > > > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net > ^^-^^ 08:35:01 up 29 days, 21:32, 2 users, load average: 4.64, 4.60, 4.37 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
On 02/23/2018 06:40 PM, David Carlson wrote: > I am lost in this thread. I thought that the point of Linux was to use > RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software. In fedora that would > be "yum install gnucash". Are you saying that does not work? > > David C > Yes, it would not work because the server that would respond to yum is the one Red Hat maintains to support (in my case) RHEL6. Were I running RHEL7, it would get things from that. But in either case, Red Hat do not support Gnucash (and do not support VLC), so I would need to download the rpms from elsewhere. And it is not that easy because the rpm's will not install unless all the dependencies are already there. And to get them is almost impossible for most things. When I downloaded VLC, for example, I needed a few libraries. I found and downloaded some of those. They wanted more. Some of them needed other libraries and they did not exist. So I had to get rid of some and get other versions of those, and so on. It took over a week to get VLC to work. And I was trying to install VLC because some other video player (and mp3 player) stopped working. The only way I got GnuCash to work is that it is not quite as complicated as VLC, and the EPEL project has Gnucash in it. They do not upgrade it though. They have a version that works, and that is that. The EPEL for Gnucash in RHEL7 will not install in RHEL6, and I am not prepared to upgrade my RHEL6 system just to get the latest Gnucash. (Even were I to do that, there is no reason to believe that that version of Gnucash would be the latest, though I suspect it would be more up to date than what I now have.) -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 08:35:01 up 29 days, 21:32, 2 users, load average: 4.64, 4.60, 4.37 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
I am lost in this thread. I thought that the point of Linux was to use RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software. In fedora that would be "yum install gnucash". Are you saying that does not work? David C On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Jean-David Beyerwrote: > On 02/23/2018 01:51 PM, Dave H wrote: > > Hi Jean-David, > > > > Yes version 2.4.15 was released just over 4 years / 20 versions ago so > > I'm not surprised you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff :-) > > > > I'm sure there must be ways of updating to a later version even on > > RedHat just like I have already done on Ubuntu. > > > > I see epel list an srpm for gnucash 2.6.18-1 under both > > http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7/SRPMS/Packages/g/ > > and http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7Server/ > SRPMS/Packages/g/ so > > I'm surprised you can't upgrade to at least that version ? > > I cannot just upgrade a single package. To do that, I would have to go > through hell to get all the required libraries. I have done that in the > past: NEVER AGAIN! It took me several weeks to make some package work > that way. I think it was VLC. For that, I had to install 26 other > packages, and finding just the exact version of each took over a week. > > I would have to upgrade my system from RHEL6 to RHEL7, and doing that > takes about a month of aggravation to get everything configured > correctly again. That is why I skip every other upgrade. Red Hat support > their releases for 10 years. > > Also, I do not want to bother compiling from source. > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net > ^^-^^ 16:40:01 up 29 days, 5:37, 2 users, load average: 4.45, 4.58, 4.72 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
On 02/23/2018 01:51 PM, Dave H wrote: > Hi Jean-David, > > Yes version 2.4.15 was released just over 4 years / 20 versions ago so > I'm not surprised you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff :-) > > I'm sure there must be ways of updating to a later version even on > RedHat just like I have already done on Ubuntu. > > I see epel list an srpm for gnucash 2.6.18-1 under both > http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7/SRPMS/Packages/g/ > and http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7Server/SRPMS/Packages/g/ so > I'm surprised you can't upgrade to at least that version ? I cannot just upgrade a single package. To do that, I would have to go through hell to get all the required libraries. I have done that in the past: NEVER AGAIN! It took me several weeks to make some package work that way. I think it was VLC. For that, I had to install 26 other packages, and finding just the exact version of each took over a week. I would have to upgrade my system from RHEL6 to RHEL7, and doing that takes about a month of aggravation to get everything configured correctly again. That is why I skip every other upgrade. Red Hat support their releases for 10 years. Also, I do not want to bother compiling from source. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 16:40:01 up 29 days, 5:37, 2 users, load average: 4.45, 4.58, 4.72 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
Hi Jean-David, Yes version 2.4.15 was released just over 4 years / 20 versions ago so I'm not surprised you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff :-) I'm sure there must be ways of updating to a later version even on RedHat just like I have already done on Ubuntu. I see epel list an srpm for gnucash 2.6.18-1 under both http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7/SRPMS/Packages/g/ and http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7Server/SRPMS/Packages/g/ so I'm surprised you can't upgrade to at least that version ? Cheers Dave H. On 24 February 2018 at 03:12, Jean-David Beyerwrote: > On 02/23/2018 12:02 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: > > I am running the latest stable version (2.6.19), but I see the following > > per the screenshot. There are a lot of options. This is on Ubuntu, but > > I see the same options on Windows. > > > Those additions you see must have occurred since my version of GnuCash. > Unfortunately, I will be unable to upgrade until EPEL do it, and that is > unlikely. So until I upgrade my Linux distribution to RHEL8 (not yet > released), I must stay here. > > I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and > greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is > available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6). > > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net > ^^-^^ 12:10:01 up 29 days, 1:07, 2 users, load average: 5.70, 5.59, 5.05 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
On 02/23/2018 12:02 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: > I am running the latest stable version (2.6.19), but I see the following > per the screenshot. There are a lot of options. This is on Ubuntu, but > I see the same options on Windows. > Those additions you see must have occurred since my version of GnuCash. Unfortunately, I will be unable to upgrade until EPEL do it, and that is unlikely. So until I upgrade my Linux distribution to RHEL8 (not yet released), I must stay here. I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6). -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 12:10:01 up 29 days, 1:07, 2 users, load average: 5.70, 5.59, 5.05 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
I am running the latest stable version (2.6.19), but I see the following per the screenshot. There are a lot of options. This is on Ubuntu, but I see the same options on Windows. Michael [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Jean-David Beyerwrote: > On 02/23/2018 10:48 AM, Fross, Michael wrote: > > Hello Jean-David, > > > > I believe this can be done in the scheduled transaction editor. Select > > frequency to monthly, every 1 month. Then choose "on the 2nd Wed" > > > > Michael > > I have choices like that only for 1st to 31st of month, last day of > month, and Last Monday of month, Last Tuesday ... > > I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and > greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is > available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6). > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net > ^^-^^ 11:45:01 up 29 days, 42 min, 2 users, load average: 4.62, 4.63, 4.74 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
On 02/23/2018 10:48 AM, Fross, Michael wrote: > Hello Jean-David, > > I believe this can be done in the scheduled transaction editor. Select > frequency to monthly, every 1 month. Then choose "on the 2nd Wed" > > Michael I have choices like that only for 1st to 31st of month, last day of month, and Last Monday of month, Last Tuesday ... I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6). -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 11:45:01 up 29 days, 42 min, 2 users, load average: 4.62, 4.63, 4.74 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
Hello Jean-David, I believe this can be done in the scheduled transaction editor. Select frequency to monthly, every 1 month. Then choose "on the 2nd Wed" Michael On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Jean-David Beyerwrote: > On 02/22/2018 11:35 PM, AZardoz wrote: > > First time on the forum. My search didn't turn up this particular > problem. > > > > Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date? > > I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the > > month, e.g. 28th or 29th. > > I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the > odd > > duck, though a formula would take care of that too. > > The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > My social security payment is in reality, deposited on the second > Wednesday of each month. I have never figured out _a good way_ to get > GnuCash to do this. > > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net > ^^-^^ 10:40:01 up 28 days, 23:37, 2 users, load average: 4.91, 4.88, 4.81 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
On 02/22/2018 11:35 PM, AZardoz wrote: > First time on the forum. My search didn't turn up this particular problem. > > Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date? > I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the > month, e.g. 28th or 29th. > I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the odd > duck, though a formula would take care of that too. > The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this. > Any help would be much appreciated. > My social security payment is in reality, deposited on the second Wednesday of each month. I have never figured out _a good way_ to get GnuCash to do this. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 10:40:01 up 28 days, 23:37, 2 users, load average: 4.91, 4.88, 4.81 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
You can also set this for the most usual date, 29th, and either simply change the date as needed for the other 5 months of the year, or do the same and set the scheduled transaction as simply a reminder instead of being auto-created. Regards, Adrien > On Feb 22, 2018, at 10:35 PM, AZardozwrote: > > First time on the forum. My search didn't turn up this particular problem. > > Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date? > I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the > month, e.g. 28th or 29th. > I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the odd > duck, though a formula would take care of that too. > The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this. > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: variable scheduled date
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:35:19 -0700 (MST) AZardozwrote: > First time on the forum. My search didn't turn up this particular > problem. > > Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date? > I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of > the month, e.g. 28th or 29th. > I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being > the odd duck, though a formula would take care of that too. > The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this. > Any help would be much appreciated. > You can pick up the 26th, 28th or 29th as individual date choices So one answer is to make 12 different scheduled transactions, although you make be able to do it in fewer. If you then make a change to indicate what to do on a weekend, you could be able to do what you wish. It looks tedious, but is a one time setup. Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.