[Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Werner Koch
GnuPG encryption project launches crowdfunding campaign

Today GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) has launched its first crowdfunding
campaign [1] with the aim of building a new website and long term
infrastructure. The 24.000 EUR target will fund:

  - Fresh web interfaces for gnupg.org including mobile
  - Completion and release of GnuPG 2.1
  - Anonymous Tor network access to the website
  - A new user friendly download page suitable for all devices
  - A new server for web services
  - New pages convening external guides, videos, and handbooks
  - Facilities for processing recurring donations for long
term project support

Project founder and Lead Developer Werner Koch said “GnuPG has
seen a huge upsurge in popularity following recent state spying
revelations. After 16 years of continuous development, we are now
asking for community support to capitalise on consumer demand for
privacy, and make GnuPG easy to access for mainstream audiences”.

GnuPG is one of the few tools remaining above suspicion in the wake
of leaked NSA documents. Edward Snowden and his contacts including
Bruce Schneier switched to GnuPG when they began handling the secret
documents earlier this year [2]. The Wall Street Journal, The
Committee to Protect Journalists, and ProPublica [3] have all embraced
GnuPG for protection of staff and sources. Phil Zimmermann, original
inventor of Pretty Good Privacy (PGP), has also moved to GnuPG in
wake of the news.

“GnuPG is a key part of modern privacy infrastructure” said Sam Tuke,
Campaign Manager, GnuPG. “Millions of users rely on GnuPG to work
securely on servers, laptops and smartphones, but 2013 donations
totaling 3.000 EUR to date have not even covered fixed costs.
Supporting new algorithms like elliptical curve and fixing newfound
exploits fast takes a lot of work which is done voluntarily. Now is the
time for people to contribute to making GnuPG slick and more sustainable
in future”.

Jacob Appelbaum, Tor Project developer, added “GnuPG is important - it
allows us the assurances we need to do our work.  Community funding is a
critical part of a confident outlook for GnuPG in future.”


For further information, please contact Sam Tuke.
Email: samtuke [at] gnupg.org
Phone: +49 176 81923811


[1] http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure
[2] 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillance
[3] http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/hacks_hackers_security_for_jou.php

== About GNU Privacy Guard ==

GnuPG is a leading cryptography app that protects emails and data from
interception. It is developed by a community of Free Software engineers
led by Werner Koch. GnuPG is used and recommended by the world’s top
security experts, including Bruce Schneier and Phil Zimmermann. It
offers best in class privacy free of charge and restriction. Hundreds of
companies have integrated GnuPG into their products to perform mission
critical security, including Red Hat, Deutsche Bahn, and many others.

http://gnupg.org


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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Christophe Brocas
Le 19/12/2013 11:08, Werner Koch a écrit :
 GnuPG encryption project launches crowdfunding campaign

 Today GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) has launched its first crowdfunding
 campaign [1] with the aim of building a new website and long term
 infrastructure. The 24.000 EUR target will fund:

   - Fresh web interfaces for gnupg.org including mobile
   - Completion and release of GnuPG 2.1

1. this is an excellent news !

2. take care about one point :
It is not very clear on the website campaign that the completion of the GnuPG
2.1 is in the scope of the campaign.

If it is really in the scope, it would be necessary to emphasize this point.
According to me, for many people, giving money for GnuPG development and giving
money for website refresh are not the same thing imho.

For the moment, the description and the title of the campaign are quite focused
on the website/infrastructure refresh.

Bye
Christophe
   - Anonymous Tor network access to the website
   - A new user friendly download page suitable for all devices
   - A new server for web services
   - New pages convening external guides, videos, and handbooks
   - Facilities for processing recurring donations for long
 term project support

 Project founder and Lead Developer Werner Koch said “GnuPG has
 seen a huge upsurge in popularity following recent state spying
 revelations. After 16 years of continuous development, we are now
 asking for community support to capitalise on consumer demand for
 privacy, and make GnuPG easy to access for mainstream audiences”.

 GnuPG is one of the few tools remaining above suspicion in the wake
 of leaked NSA documents. Edward Snowden and his contacts including
 Bruce Schneier switched to GnuPG when they began handling the secret
 documents earlier this year [2]. The Wall Street Journal, The
 Committee to Protect Journalists, and ProPublica [3] have all embraced
 GnuPG for protection of staff and sources. Phil Zimmermann, original
 inventor of Pretty Good Privacy (PGP), has also moved to GnuPG in
 wake of the news.

 “GnuPG is a key part of modern privacy infrastructure” said Sam Tuke,
 Campaign Manager, GnuPG. “Millions of users rely on GnuPG to work
 securely on servers, laptops and smartphones, but 2013 donations
 totaling 3.000 EUR to date have not even covered fixed costs.
 Supporting new algorithms like elliptical curve and fixing newfound
 exploits fast takes a lot of work which is done voluntarily. Now is the
 time for people to contribute to making GnuPG slick and more sustainable
 in future”.

 Jacob Appelbaum, Tor Project developer, added “GnuPG is important - it
 allows us the assurances we need to do our work.  Community funding is a
 critical part of a confident outlook for GnuPG in future.”


 For further information, please contact Sam Tuke.
 Email: samtuke [at] gnupg.org
 Phone: +49 176 81923811


 [1] http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure
 [2] 
 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillance
 [3] http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/hacks_hackers_security_for_jou.php

 == About GNU Privacy Guard ==

 GnuPG is a leading cryptography app that protects emails and data from
 interception. It is developed by a community of Free Software engineers
 led by Werner Koch. GnuPG is used and recommended by the world’s top
 security experts, including Bruce Schneier and Phil Zimmermann. It
 offers best in class privacy free of charge and restriction. Hundreds of
 companies have integrated GnuPG into their products to perform mission
 critical security, including Red Hat, Deutsche Bahn, and many others.

 http://gnupg.org




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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Richard Ulrich
As this is about a crypto project, wouldn't it be adequate to accept
payments in crypto currencies?

Rgds
Richard

On Don, 2013-12-19 at 11:08 +0100, Werner Koch wrote:
 GnuPG encryption project launches crowdfunding campaign
 
 Today GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) has launched its first crowdfunding
 campaign [1] with the aim of building a new website and long term
 infrastructure. The 24.000 EUR target will fund:
 
   - Fresh web interfaces for gnupg.org including mobile
   - Completion and release of GnuPG 2.1
   - Anonymous Tor network access to the website
   - A new user friendly download page suitable for all devices
   - A new server for web services
   - New pages convening external guides, videos, and handbooks
   - Facilities for processing recurring donations for long
 term project support
 
 Project founder and Lead Developer Werner Koch said “GnuPG has
 seen a huge upsurge in popularity following recent state spying
 revelations. After 16 years of continuous development, we are now
 asking for community support to capitalise on consumer demand for
 privacy, and make GnuPG easy to access for mainstream audiences”.
 
 GnuPG is one of the few tools remaining above suspicion in the wake
 of leaked NSA documents. Edward Snowden and his contacts including
 Bruce Schneier switched to GnuPG when they began handling the secret
 documents earlier this year [2]. The Wall Street Journal, The
 Committee to Protect Journalists, and ProPublica [3] have all embraced
 GnuPG for protection of staff and sources. Phil Zimmermann, original
 inventor of Pretty Good Privacy (PGP), has also moved to GnuPG in
 wake of the news.
 
 “GnuPG is a key part of modern privacy infrastructure” said Sam Tuke,
 Campaign Manager, GnuPG. “Millions of users rely on GnuPG to work
 securely on servers, laptops and smartphones, but 2013 donations
 totaling 3.000 EUR to date have not even covered fixed costs.
 Supporting new algorithms like elliptical curve and fixing newfound
 exploits fast takes a lot of work which is done voluntarily. Now is the
 time for people to contribute to making GnuPG slick and more sustainable
 in future”.
 
 Jacob Appelbaum, Tor Project developer, added “GnuPG is important - it
 allows us the assurances we need to do our work.  Community funding is a
 critical part of a confident outlook for GnuPG in future.”
 
 
 For further information, please contact Sam Tuke.
 Email: samtuke [at] gnupg.org
 Phone: +49 176 81923811
 
 
 [1] http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure
 [2] 
 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillance
 [3] http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/hacks_hackers_security_for_jou.php
 
 == About GNU Privacy Guard ==
 
 GnuPG is a leading cryptography app that protects emails and data from
 interception. It is developed by a community of Free Software engineers
 led by Werner Koch. GnuPG is used and recommended by the world’s top
 security experts, including Bruce Schneier and Phil Zimmermann. It
 offers best in class privacy free of charge and restriction. Hundreds of
 companies have integrated GnuPG into their products to perform mission
 critical security, including Red Hat, Deutsche Bahn, and many others.
 
 http://gnupg.org
 
 



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What is the latest version

2013-12-19 Thread Matt D
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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Martin Gollowitzer
* Richard Ulrich ricu...@gmail.com [131219 13:47, 
  mID 1387457142.1836.18.camel@XPS13dev]:

 As this is about a crypto project, wouldn't it be adequate to accept
 payments in crypto currencies?

I wouldn't consider this a priority. Bitcoin violates one of the
fundamental laws of economics and is therefore supposed to crash at some
point. Choosing goteo was IMHO a good idea because their system is Free
Software and I don't know if they even support BTC et al.

Just my €0,02 

Martin 


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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:17, christophe.bro...@cnamts.fr said:

 It is not very clear on the website campaign that the completion of the GnuPG
 2.1 is in the scope of the campaign.

GnuPG 2.1 will be ready with the new website or even earlier.  However,
2.1 won't immediately replace 2.0 (or 1.4) on all platforms I expect that
this takes some time.


Salam-Shalom,

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Re: What is the latest version

2013-12-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 12/19/2013 8:25 AM, Matt D wrote:
 I am running enigmail 1.5.2 .   Is this old?  How can I get the
 latest?  Thanks!

The latest Enigmail is 1.6.  1.5.2 is not tremendously old, but it's not
the latest-and-greatest, either.

Given that you got GnuPG and Enigmail from GPGtools, your best bet is to
ask the GPGtools maintainers (politely!) to update the version of
Enigmail they include with GPGtools.

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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:45, ricu...@gmail.com said:
 As this is about a crypto project, wouldn't it be adequate to accept
 payments in crypto currencies?

Agreed.  However, we don't have the resources to do that.  The new
infrastructure topic covers payment options and likely we will accept
Bitcoins then.  The funding platform seems not to support it yet.


Shalom-Salam,

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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:31, go...@fsfe.org said:

 point. Choosing goteo was IMHO a good idea because their system is Free
 Software and I don't know if they even support BTC et al.

Indeed.  After all crowd funding is about community building and thus I
consider it the Right Thing to help each other.  Goteo is mainly used in
Spain but it is worth to get better known.  Agreed there a a couple of
problems, like missing translations but Goteo has evolved much enough
since we first looked at in September, to assume that the remaining
problems will soon be fixed.

The privacy policy and the terms or services are not translated to
English - this is an unfortunate oversight of us.


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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Olav Seyfarth
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Hi Werner,

am 19.12.2013 11:08, schrieb Werner Koch:
 Today GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) has launched its first crowdfunding 
 campaign [1] with the aim of building a new website and long term 
 infrastructure. The 24.000 EUR target ...

congratulations, 6 hours after your post, nearly half of that target is pledged.

One note: apart from the data privacy statement being not available in english,
my concern is invoices - I am self-employed and can just pledge without invoice,
but most companies cannot. In the process, I only got the following receipt:

FUNDACION FUENTES ABIERTAS
(logo)
On-line shopping
(some other logo)
Operation
AUTHORIZED
Operation number: some number
Amount: 35.00 Euros
(check mark)
Card Payment
Data that identifies the operation:
(printer symbol)
Operation number:
some number
Amount:
35.00 Euros
Date / Time:
19/12/2013 time
Authorisation:
some number
Reference:
some long number
(payment service logo)
ACCEPT

One cannot use that as a proof that one donated for something, it does not even
state the project the pledge is about. There is also no information on any
document to receive later (apart from account / credit card / Paypal statement),
not in the Projekt (where it does not belong anyway), but also not in Goteos FAQ

Maybe you/Sam should discuss this with Goteo before you start the NEXT round :-)

Olav
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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Werner  all

Re http://goteo.org

 The privacy policy and the terms or services are not translated to
 English - this is an unfortunate oversight of us.

http://gnupg.org/
http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure

http://goteo.org/legal/terms
Seems to be in mid edit from Spanish to English,
at the 3rd paragraph of section SECOND: TERMS

http://goteo.org/legal/privacy
All Spanish

Here's an automatic translation of privacy to English:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=estl=enjs=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fgoteo.org%2Flegal%2Fprivacy

You might want to suggest to goteo.org it might be quicker for them to use
a translater engine then hand correct, rather than translate  type all ?

I only know of 2 free translaters so far, listed on my
http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/trans/
Other URLs for that page welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Johannes Zarl
Hi,

Maybe my English is a little rusty, but what exactly is a spanking server?

From the goteo page:
 The world's most trusted data encryption tool gets a new website with
 spanking server, platform and design. 

  Johannes

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Re: gpg-rsa-key decryption with a mobile

2013-12-19 Thread Uwe Brauer
 Werner == Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org writes:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:31, sys...@ioioioio.eu said:
Here, we describe a new acoustic cryptanalysis key extraction attack,
applicable to GnuPG's current implementation of RSA. The attack can

Well that is what I posted a few hours ago to this list ;-).

Since you are mentioned in this webpage, do you know by any chance
whether gpgsm is vulnerable in a similar way?


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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Johannes Zarl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Maybe my English is a little rusty, but what exactly is a spanking server?

Presumably a contraction from brand spanking new a phrase normal
 common in England when I grew up there. I think brand spanking
new server might also leave nationals of some other international
english variant speaking countries (eg USA)  non native speakers
puzzled. Spanking server will set some grinning salaciously ;-)
Shiney/super new or similar might be more internationaly understandable :-)

 From the goteo page:
  The world's most trusted data encryption tool gets a new website with
  spanking server, platform and design. 
 
   Johannes

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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen

Maybe my English is a little rusty, but what exactly is a spanking server?


They omitted the word new.  Spanking new is an English idiom for  
something that's brand-new; it comes from the tradition of spanking a  
newborn child in order to spur the child into taking its first breath.  
 Something that's spanking new is supposed to be as new as a  
newborn child.



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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen

I think brand spanking
new server might also leave nationals of some other international
english variant speaking countries (eg USA)  non native speakers
puzzled.


It's in common usage in the U.S., although I more often hear it  
without the brand prefix.  That said, brand spanking new is not  
unusual usage over here.



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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:35, j...@berklix.com said:

 You might want to suggest to goteo.org it might be quicker for them to use
 a translater engine then hand correct, rather than translate  type all ?

A reason might be that they have concerns publishing a translation if
not done by lawyer.  However, the half-translated TOS would contradict
this assumption.

 I only know of 2 free translaters so far, listed on my
   http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/trans/

I bet we will eventually hear about the NSA project to track translation
engines.


Shalom-Salam,

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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Johannes Zarl
On Thursday 19 December 2013 10:09:22 Robert J. Hansen wrote:
  Maybe my English is a little rusty, but what exactly is a spanking
  server?
 They omitted the word new.

Ah! I should have thought of this. The phrase as a whole is known to me, but 
without the new it was only nonsense to me...

 it comes from the tradition of spanking a
 newborn child in order to spur the child into taking its first breath.

...and I have learned something new today ;-)

Thanks,
  Johannes


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Re: gpg-rsa-key decryption with a mobile

2013-12-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:54, o...@mat.ucm.es said:

 Since you are mentioned in this webpage, do you know by any chance
 whether gpgsm is vulnerable in a similar way?

gpgsm uses Libgcrypt and Libgcrypt employs RSA blinding for a long time
now.  Thus it is not vulnerable.  The reason Libgcrypt has RSA blinding
is that it is used by online protocols like TLS were it is easy to mount
certain timing attacks in the LAN.  With GnuPG these calls of network
based attacks are not possible and thus we did not used blinding in
GnuPG-1.


Salam-Shalom,

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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
From: Johannes

  it comes from the tradition of spanking a
  newborn child in order to spur the child into taking its first breath.
 
 ...and I have learned something new today ;-)

I didnt know the original derivation either :-)


From: Werner

 I bet we will eventually hear about the NSA project to track translation
 engines.

Seems likely.  (Nice that some NSA activity has just been declared
un-constitutional (glimpsed on TV)).

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Holiday giving

2013-12-19 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 07/12/13 05:16, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
 To show this, I'm going to be making a contribution to GnuPG.  And to
 encourage you to make your own contribution, I will match any
 contribution you make between now and January 1, 2014.

I just donated € 75 to the crowdfunding campaign (and will soon be wearing a
nice t-shirt). Will you also match that or are you restricting yourself to the
normal Christmassy donations? It's your money, it's your call. Obviously.

Here's to a great funding campaign!

Peter.

PS: By the way, why does goteo.org insist on speaking what looks like Spanish to
me? I intended to read the privacy policy, but it insisted on showing me
versions I couldn't comprehend. I could get a French one from the language
pulldown, but not English. My Accept-Language: is en-gb,en;q=0.7,nl;q=0.3 so
that can't be the problem. Perhaps some strange interaction with Privoxy,
although I feel strongly that it simply should respect my Accept-Language 
anyway.

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Re: [Announce] GnuPG launches crowdfunding campaign

2013-12-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen

Seems likely.  (Nice that some NSA activity has just been declared
un-constitutional (glimpsed on TV)).


A district court judge found the program unconstitutional, but his  
decision is *extremely* controversial right now.  I would happily bet  
cash money on even odds that this decision will be overturned on appeal.


I normally don't like to go into detail about legal cases, but what  
the hell -- given the general interest in this matter, I hope people  
will forgive me for going off-topic.




The problem comes from a 1979 Supreme Court decision, _Smith v  
Maryland_ (often just called _Smith_).


A woman was receiving harassing phone calls, so the police asked the  
phone company for records about who was calling her.  The phone  
company turned these records over without a warrant.  The harasser was  
arrested and convicted.  He appealed his sentence, claiming that the  
police should have received a warrant.  The Supreme Court refused Mr.  
Smith's petition using logic sort of like the following:


1. If you're asking the phone company to connect you to another
   phone number, the phone company knows at least your number
   and the number you're calling
2. This isn't different from asking a friend to drive you to a
   place: your friend knows where he picked you up and where he
   dropped you off
3. In #2, the police don't need a search warrant to get that
   information from your friend -- they just need a subpoena
4. So in #1, the police shouldn't need a search warrant to get
   that information from the phone company -- they just need a
   subpoena

I personally find this logic simple, elegant and compelling.  That  
doesn't mean I think it's right: it only means I think it's a very  
serious opinion that is extremely difficult to refute.


The government has used this decision (telephone metadata requires no  
warrant, only a subpoena) on an extremely large scale... such a large  
scale that it has created a very serious counterargument.  If the  
police are investigating a crime that happened Thursday night, asking  
your friends where they picked you up and dropped you off Thursday  
night is not an infringement of your privacy -- but asking your  
friends for *all* the times they've picked you up and *all* the times  
they've dropped you off over the last five years would certainly be  
seen as overreaching and as a gross privacy violation.  At least, such  
is the counterargument.


Judge Leon -- appointed by George W. Bush, a fact that will no doubt  
stun some people here -- was asked to choose between these two  
opinions.  Interestingly, he really didn't choose.  Instead he said,


... I cannot possibly navigate these uncharted Fourth
Amendment waters using as my north star a case that predates
the use of cell phones.

He didn't so much agree with the plaintiffs as he found that the  
_Smith_ decision was no longer relevant to modern life... and that's  
where the controversy occurs.  He's a district judge.  Most judicial  
ethicists would say that where SCOTUS has given clear and unambiguous  
guidance on an issue, as _Smith_ appears to, a district court has no  
business overturning SCOTUS's precedent.  (To which the immediate  
rejoinder is, Yeah, because it would've been such a bad thing for  
some district judge to decide _Dred Scott_ was a stupid decision.)


This case is already being appealed.  At the appellate level judges no  
longer look at the facts of the case: they assume the trial court  
brought all the relevant facts to light.  Instead, the judges look at  
a much narrower set of questions: (a) was the trial fair?, (b) were  
the laws correctly applied?, and (c) were precedents correctly cited  
and followed?  No one is arguing that Judge Leon was unfair or that  
the law is being unfairly applied: the entire appeal will revolve  
around whether _Smith_ still governs.


My feeling is that the appellate court will decide _Smith_ still  
governs, reversing Judge Leon and approving the metadata program.  But  
I also feel it's very likely SCOTUS will grant cert and agree to hear  
the case, at which point SCOTUS will be revisiting their _Smith_  
decision and potentially giving new guidance for how to apply  
_Smith's_ reasoning to the modern day.



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Re: Holiday giving

2013-12-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen



I just donated € 75 to the crowdfunding campaign (and will soon be wearing a
nice t-shirt). Will you also match that or are you restricting  
yourself to the normal Christmassy donations?


On January 6 (the Feast of the Epiphany, the traditional end of the  
Christmas season) I'll ask Werner how many euros were raised between  
the time I posted my original message and 11:59pm January 5.  Normal  
donations and crowdfunding will both be matched.  Once I get a sum  
from Werner I will be remitting two separate donations to g10 Code:  
one will be the matching funds, and the other will be my Christmas  
contribution.


Werner is free to tell the list how many funds were raised, how many I  
matched, and whether I lived up to my word.  However, I'm going to  
request he keep my (private) Christmas contribution quiet: that's  
between me and my conscience, not between me and the list.  :)




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Import Raw RSA Secret Key?

2013-12-19 Thread Eric Swanson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Hello all,

I'm trying to import a raw RSA secret key into GnuPG.

I have p, q, d and the creation timestamp, as well as anything else
that can be computed from them (n, u, e, etc etc).

I've been implementing bits of RFC 4880 in an attempt to generate
valid secret key files, but it looks like GnuPG won't import a key
unless it has a valid self-signature, and that chunk of the
specification is large and looks painful to implement.

So how can I best get my (p,q,d,timestamp,n,u,e) structure into a
valid GPG key which can be used to sign, encrypt, etc messages?

Best regards,
- -- 
Eric Swanson
http://www.alloscomp.com/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/

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l2WcUInnxShAlr8Uh5NKMAK8eQIrJyaoNgH4ZQKGBTF6rzStzz5rWoZV6vGpjKZN
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Re: Import Raw RSA Secret Key?

2013-12-19 Thread David Shaw
On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Eric Swanson eswan...@alloscomp.com wrote:

 I'm trying to import a raw RSA secret key into GnuPG.
 
 I have p, q, d and the creation timestamp, as well as anything else
 that can be computed from them (n, u, e, etc etc).
 
 I've been implementing bits of RFC 4880 in an attempt to generate
 valid secret key files, but it looks like GnuPG won't import a key
 unless it has a valid self-signature, and that chunk of the
 specification is large and looks painful to implement.
 
 So how can I best get my (p,q,d,timestamp,n,u,e) structure into a
 valid GPG key which can be used to sign, encrypt, etc messages?

If you can manage to make a RFC 4880 secret key packet, you should be able to 
combine it with a user ID packet (either generate one yourself - no crypto 
needed - or just copy one from another key), and then import the result with 
--allow-non-selfsigned-uid.  That should skip the need for a self-signature.  
Once you have it imported, you can self-sign it via GPG, using --edit-key 
xx sign.

David


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Re: What is the latest version

2013-12-19 Thread Charly Avital
Matt D wrote on 12/19/13, 3:25 PM:
 I am running enigmail 1.5.2 .   Is this old?  How can I get the
 latest?  Thanks!

According to the raw source of your message, you are running:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/24.2.0
and
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 (which you already indicated in your post).

It seems that this combination is part of the Linux distro you are running.

You might update to Enigmail 1.6 by downloading the appropriate release
from https://www.enigmail.net/download/index.php and proceed according
to the instructions.

I think your query might be best answered in Enigmail User's list.


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