Re: [Goanet] Corrupt builder in GOA
hi everyone I'm Mike from the UK, i have visited Goa many times and really love the place. Infact around 4 years ago i decided to buy a house there only to find that the builder was/is a con-man, i am to this day trying to get my money back does anybody have any advice for me, i am having some very hard times at the moment and this money would really help me out of a terrible hole that I have found myself in. The name of the builder is ERIC FERNANDEZ, does anybody know of this builder? I have no money to visit at the moment, could anybody please give me some advice? Thanks Mike
RE: [Goanet] Goan History
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: I thank Tariq for his response. I respect his sensitivity to this subject and his ill-feeling towards the Portuguese end of Muslim rule in Goa. But, his hang-up for a very educated Goan is a bit surprising (but Contrary to your thought, I bear no ill-feeling towards anyone when it comes to history. If the Muslims lost Goa, it was merely another chapter in this world where empires rise and fall and boundaries were redrawn. In 1510, the Portuguese were in the right place at the right time to take advantage of Yusuf Adil Shah's death and conquer Goa. Had the Portuguese not been there, I would have expected the Vijayanagra empire to do the same. not unlike other educated Goans on other subjects). It is interesting that he repeatedly brings up Portuguese atrocities in Goa (well documented by the Church and Goan Catholics) on the Goanet but is just unable to provide even some specifics with Muslim violence. I hope he Well, does anyone? Can you cite me one book that dwells on the Adil Shahis of Bijapur? Most of the historians have concentrated their work on the powerful Bahmanis and have in passing, mentioned the Adil Shahis, Imad Shahis, Ali Shahis and Nizam Shahis, all of which emerged from within the Bahmani empire. Dr. Teotonio de Souze has referred me to a doctoral dissertation by M. A Nayeem as an excellent work on that subject. Unfortunately, I have not beeen able to locate this paper. In any case, Muslim atrocities have been mentioned but never specified. For instance, books dealing with the Portuguese conquest of Goa, have mentioned Muslim atrocities as just that. They have never specified the nature of these or who were they carried out by and under whose orders? Yusuf Adil Shah, Ismail Adil Shah, Kamal Khan, Asad Khan or Sabaji? I have read the history of the Gowd Saraswats and it has been mentioned, once again, that they fled Goa when the Adil Shahi rule commenced. However, that was all the mention that was provided. If for you, such one liners are enough of a testament, more power to you. I wish my life was as simple, but I prefer to read more on the subject before drawing any conclusions. Tariq and perhaps others may (conveniently) disagree with me on equating Muslim rule with colonialism. I would be happy to go over governance, society, religion, language etc. to make my point. However to accept Muslim rule over Goa and India as not colonial would suggest that the Muslims (Moguls and Sultans) had some natural or God-given right to rule over other peoples and land. The fact that any king with his armies (or navies) march into another territory (which was not his) is the start of colonialism. Please convince me otherwise or read me a new definition of colonialism. Regards GL. I suspected that you would make such a case. By such a definition, every King, Emperor, Sultan, Raja and President was a colonizer. In more recent times, every Prime Minister or President is a colonizer as well. After all, how dare Vajpayee extend his rule to Lucknow, Guwahati and Kochi. Similarly, how dare Goerge Bush extend his domain to the hill-billies of Alabama. -- Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Rockets Lover! Laker Hater !!! *** ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] How old is your father ?
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The below text reminded me of an incident that took place in school many years ago. This young boy of 6 years asked his friend 'how old is your father'? The reply was 'he is as old as I am'. 'How is that possible'? said the other, to which the reply was 'because he became a father only after I was born'. Pretty logical but wrong. So is this damned rethoric debate about Goa India and Portuguese. I tell you that we Goans have nothing to do with Portugal (and also wished we had nothing to do with the other too). We want our land our rights as Goans to be employed first in any government existing vacancy/jobs etc. My dear Goans/MOgal Goenkarano, we need to be more mature and aggresive towards profitting from such situations. And how is that.? Master the weapon of education. For this is the only sword that will help the upliftment and our fight towards Goa. Goans by far are adequated to living a good lifestyle be it Hindu Muslim or Christian. They all have mastered and embibed in eating good and merry making. Unlike the other community (am referring to Gujurs, Sindis and others in other Indian states) who say they have feasted if treated themselves out in restaurants over the week ends or otherwise everyday is papad, bindi aur sabji (vegetable I suppose). Now back to square one, as someone who said this earlier, we have to bear the brunt for what Goa is now utterly because of us GOANS, OUR MLAs, OUR POLITICIANS (we have elected them knowing what they are) OUR INDUSTRIALISTS, OUR ADMINISTRATORS. We need to clean our homeland first with relevant and appropriate authorities before we indulge chanting unwanted slogans. So lets stop here and get our hands in cleaning our dirty linen and hold on to the land that we all are so fond of and much spoken on this net. Tumjea modlo, Vasu Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:25:52 -0600 (CST) From: Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Paradise found! Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Sunila Muzawar wrote: By the way, did the Portuguese rob your family of anything? Yes they did. They robbed my family of freedom for 450 years. That is more Your parents are 450 years old? My mom is just in her fifties. ** Our thoughts and prayers are with family friends in Kuwait. God-speed to the liberators of Iraq. God Bless the innocent citizens of Iraq !! __ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] Introduction from Lubino
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Lubino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I've not had much input as of yet due to the serious nature of some of the debates. Saying that I have enjoyed reading the contents and as always feel much nourished by the views of opposing thoughts. Well my name is Lubino do Rego. I'm 33 years old and been resident in Scotland for the last 28 of those with a spell of 7 in England too. I qualified in dentistry a while back and have recently set up a general dental practice and a dental implantology unit in Edinburgh. PS. The quotable quotes are fantastic. I look forward to quoting them throughout the day regardless of wether they are apt or not! Take care all Lubino Our thoughts and prayers are with family friends in Kuwait. God-speed to the liberators of Iraq. God Bless the innocent citizens of Iraq !! __ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
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For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com Attn all, At the recently held Annual General Meeting of the Goan Association of Calgary-Canada, the following were elected as the Executive Committee for the year 2003/04. Wilson Soares .President Michelle ViegasV. President Agnelo Paes ...Treasurer Susan D'Souza..Gen. Secretary Angela D'Souza.Social Secretary Savio D'Silva..Sports Secretary Vanessa Durham.Committee Member Leslie Sealy...Committee Member Auditors for the Year: Mervyn D'Mello and Rudy Paes We will be opening our Web-page soon wherein all the yearly Programmes will be outlined. Anyone wishing to communicate can either direct your messages to my Gen. Sec. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lets hope some of you can attend our functions if you are in town. Thanks Wilson __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] PRESENTATION ON PORTUGUESE NATIONALITY / PASSPORT HELD IN QATAR
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Simon D'Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Goan Overseas Association (GOA), an organisation of Goan expatriates in Qatar, has done a Presentation on procedures and formalities (requirements) of applying for Portuguese Citizenship/Passport on 21st March 2003 at the Hotel Sofitel Doha Palace in Qatar at 19:00 hrs. Mr. Simon DSilva, President of G.O.A. extended a warm welcome to the people who were present followed by a brief introduction of G.O.As activities held in the past and announced their upcoming event MAY QUEEN BALL 2003 on 15th May 2003. Mr. John De Sa, Chairman of G.O.A. presented a detailed information about the procedures and requirements of applying for Portuguese Nationality and Passport. Mr. De Sa said that the applicant is not required to travel to Lisbon or Goa. Goan Overseas Association, Qatar has approached an agent in Goa to assist Goans from Qatar to obtain the necessary papers for a nominal fee. This agent does the entire procedure and once the file is ready they submit the documents directly to Conservatoria dos Registos Centrais in Lisboa, Portugal and follow up the case with the Registos Centrais till the process is completed which takes approximately one and half year. During the presentation G.O.A. has introduced the following agent in Goa: Mr. BRUNO GOMINDES MANAGING DIRECTOR JET LEISURE HOLIDAYS PVT. LTD. 6, RANGAVI SHOPPING COMPLEX OPP. MARGAO MUNICIPAL BUILDING NEAR HDFC BANK MARGAO SALCETTE - GOA 403 601 Contact Nos.: Off: +91-832-2713207 / 08 / 10 / 12 Fax: +91-832-2713230 Res: +91-832-2725223 / 2706081 Mob: +91-94220-57112 Emails: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] During the Question/Answer hour people were happy to met with their doubts, queries clarified by John De Sa and Simon DSilva. The audience complimented G.O.A. for their efforts and services rendered to the welfare of the community and also impressed about the charity work done in the past. Mr. Camillo Fernandes, Project Co-ordinator Compered the event and proposed vote of thanks. In his v.o.t. address, he pointed out goans to take the maximum benefit from this presentation and informed them that they are always welcome to approach Goan Overseas Association, Qatar for any assistance and support. He thanked Mr. Paul Fernandes of Q-Soft for his unconditional technical support given to GOA to make this event a grand success. He also thanked Simon DSilva and John De Sa for their hard work for bringing out this information and sharing with the people of goan origin. Last but not the least Mr. Fernandes thanked all the people present for their valuable participation and interaction during the Question/Answer hour. G.O.A. also distributed a hand-out along with JET LEISURE HOLIDAYS business card. *** Our thoughts and prayers are with family friends in Kuwait. God-speed to the liberators of Iraq. God Bless the innocent citizens of Iraq !! __ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] NEWS: Goa's revenue expenditure spurt hits state deficit figures
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com GOA'S REVENUE EXPENDITURE SPURT HITS STATE DEFICIT FIGURES PANJIM, March 24 -- Goa's state revenue expenditure is galloping faster than expected, outgrowing its projections, and making the revenue deficit of the State grow from bad to worse. This is the news emerging from the Economic Survey 2002-03, released by the state's Directorate of Planning, Statistics and Evaluation on the eve of Tuesday's annual budget to be presented to the state assembly. Goa also has a whopping debt. It has loans of Rs 2,071.2 crore (estimates, 2003) it has to repay. Some of these high-cost loans have come directly from the Government of India or one of its bodies, HUDCO. For instance, the IDBI has charged the Kadamba Transport Corporation a phenomenally-high 21% rate of interest. The IDBI has refused to allow the KTC to prepay its very high cost loans, complains the Economic Survey. Goa's main concern, says the government's economic survey, is the state's revenue deficit. In order to achieve a sustainable financial orbit for development, the state needs to eliminate its revenue deficit at the earliest possible, it adds. It says the Centre's permission to retire a proportion of the high cost debts would bring down Goa's interest burden substantially. This needs to be augmented by a strict control over growth in salaries and other establishment expenditure of the state, says the economic survey. It argues that after implementing the Voluntary Retirement Scheme, Goa should now look forward to reap its benefit in form of a lower salary bill. But this analysis seems to overlook the reality that the state has been expanding vastly its personnel in the police and some other departments, even while paying off bureaucrats to retire early. It calls on Goa to forumulate a `fiscal reforms programme' to eliminate its revenue deficit by the year 2003-04. In reality, Goa's revenue deficit has grown from Rs 14-crore (1997-98) to Rs 140.7 crore (1998-99), Rs 208.8 crore (1999- 2000), Rs 226 crore (2000-01) and Rs 228.5 crore (2001-02). Budget estimates for 2002-03 expect this to be better at Rs 123.6 crore, declining further in its optimistic projections to Rs 56.6 crore and finally to a surplus of Rs 3.8 crore in 2003-04 and 2004-05 respectively. It's to be seen if these projections become reality. MAJOR SOURCE: Sales tax is the `major source of income' to the state, constituting some 70% of Goa's tax revenue. In April-September 2002, the sales tax collection was Rs 210.5 crore, against Rs 160.8 crore in April-September 2001. But the state could not sustain this growth during the second half of 2001-02 due to (a) slump in (the) tourism sector on account of the events of September 11, says the Economic Survey. Goa has also been introducing 'user charges' on a 'broad spectrum of services'. Says the Economic Survey, Some new services have been brought under the revenue net by putting nominal fees initially, which can be revised subsequently. This, it adds, has resulted in a significant growth in non-tax revenue revenue of the state. Some non-tax revenues implemented include: tightening regulatory measures under the Goa Registration of the Tourist Trade Act; hiking registrations for fishing canoes; nominal fees for Transport Department application forms; hiking of hire-charges of revenue land under river nagivation sector. Extra cess on milk coming in to Goa gets the state five million rupees a year. The survey says factory licence and other fees could be hiked; fees for kerosene and food vendors is up; and it cost you an enhanced Rs 100 for a licence to fell your tree and Rs 1,000 to appeal. Rates of rest houses and eco-tourism cottages have also been hiked; so has rent for commercial utilisation of government buildings by private parties, which has been fetching very low rent fixed many years ago. Hoardings on government land are being taxed, and idle government land will be systematically inventorised. GOVT STAFF: Goa government employees account for 44,000 people (as of 1999- 2000). Of this 31,000 are in government departments and 13,000 in grant-in-aid institutions (such as schools) and corporations. For years, the government has been taking of 'administrative reforms', and continues to do so, promising right sizing the strength of government employees and increasing their efficiency and productivity. Posts will be abolished where not required, and additional posts will be created wherever essentially required in improving teh quality of service to the public, argues the Economic Survey. It plans to bring down the government work force by 5% by 2004-5. (ENDS) - End forwarded message - --
[Goanet] NEWS: Of deposits, and borrowings... and other strange Goa stats
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com OF DEPOSITS... AND BORROWINGS, AND OTHER STRANGE STATS FROM GOA PANJIM, MARCH 24 -- The two commercially-significant talukas of Tiswadi and Salcete have Goa's highest cash deposits on a per-capita basis. Inhabitants in Salcete have Rs 1,17,384 deposits per capita, just below those in Tiswadi with Rs 1,93,863. Interestingly, residents of these commercially-important talukas of Tiswadi and Salcete are also the State's highest borrowers -- at Rs 85,394 and Rs 29,249 per head. And, believe it or not, Goa has just 4.4 per cent of its population in poverty, going by official figures. According to official figures, just released here as part of the state's Economic Survey, industrial production grew over a 1993-94 base of 100 to 305 in 2000-01. But mining fell to 98% on the base year. Of industries, the 'chemicals and chemical products' sector was responsibile for nearly 41%. Government figures say the number of cultivators declining by over 26 per-cent in a decade. Goa's poultry too seems to be ailing with the number declining from .92 million to .78 million over the five-year period from 1992 to 1997. New Delhi's aid has been declining in relative terms. Central assistance as a share of the state plan, has declined from 86 per-cent of Goa's plan size in 1987-88, to just 15.5% in 2001-02. INFLATION: Goa is also listed as a costlier place for industrial workers, going by the 1982 prices. If one takes the consumer price index for industrial workers (1982=100), a basket of commodities costing Rs 100 in 1982 cost Rs 520 in Goa, as compared to Rs 441 in the rest of India in 2000. Goa's school dropout problem was also a serious one with over 40 per-cent dropping out between Std I and X. Dreaded malaria continues to haunt Goans, remaining the State's most serious health issue, affecting about the largest segment of its population. In 2001-02, the state saw 13,187 cases reported. Goa's infant mortality rate is shown as declined from 24.8 in 1987 to just udner 14 in the year 2000. Housing co-operatives dominate State's co-operative sector with as many as 1047 of the 1897 co-ops being housing co-ops. Urban credit societies (357) come next in number, followed by dairy (158) and consumer co-ops (101). DOGS, LIVESTOCK: Dogs in Goa went up from 60,479 (1992) to 78,838 (1997), as per the livestock census. It is not clear, however, whether strays were also taken into account. In the tourism sector, UK was Goa's largest tourist sender, with 35.7% of foreign tourists coming from that island nation. Germany (6.3%), Finland (4%) and Switzerland (3.4%) were next. After seeing a high of 419 charter flights and 1,16,992 charter tourists landing in 2000-01, charter arrivals declined in the next two years to almost 1996-97 levels. Another area of concern is the State's fast-growing vehicle population. Goa ranks fifth in terms of its road density (after Delhi, Chandigarh, tiny Pondicherry, and Kerala). The vehicle population has touched 3.6 lakh. Of this, 2.5 lakh are motorcycles and scooters, perhaps reflecting the poor public transportation system in the state. In terms of per capita electricity consumption, Goa was ranked seventh among all Indian states. But it may be difficult to come to speedy conclusions over this figure, since industrial power guzzlers have also accounted for some part of this share. Goa's state expenditure on health and education is a paltry 14.4% and 5.1%. But Goans' life-expectancy is the second-highest in the country, second only to Kerala. Over the years, the sex-ratio has declined from a high of 1128 (in 1951) to as low as 960 (2001) females per thousand males. In part, this could also be a result of the reversing of migration trends, earlier largely based on out-migration by mainly male workers, which has shifted in recent years also to in-migration into Goa. Goa (with 82.3%) ranks fourth in its literacy rates among all states in the country. Besides Kerala, even the smaller Mizoram and Lakshadweep have edged past this potential-laden region with higher literacy rates. Job-seekers on the Employment Exchange totalled a little over a hundred thousand in 2001. Nearly one-third of these were HSSC passed with another third being matriculates. But this is not an actual indicator of joblessness, as some registered have done so to improve their current jobs. According to the Eleventh Finance Commission Report of 2000, Goa's social and economic infrastructure in 1999, was the best in the entire country. ENDS ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
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For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com Attn. All, At the recently held Annual General Meeting the following are the Executive members of the Goan Association of Calgary - Canada. Wilson Soares.President Michelle Viegas...V. President __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] March 2003 - Newsletter from The Goan Community in Mombasa
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Maureen De Souza wrote via john d'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: THE GOAN COMMUNITY MOMBASA NEWSLETTER MARCH 2003 Dear Members of the Goan Community, We will soon be celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. Let the Spirit of the Lord fill all our hearts with happiness, blessing and peace. NOTICE FOR THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING Notice is hereby given to the registered members of the Goan Community Mombasa, that the Annual General Meeting will be held on Sunday 30th March 2003 at the Sacred Heart School Mombasa, commencing at 10.30 a.m. Agenda 1. To confirm the minutes of the last Annual General Meeting and Extraordinary General Meeting 2. To consider and adopt the Annual Report and Accounts for 2002 3. To approve estimates for the current year 4. To elect office bearers for 2003/4 Fatima Lobo Hon. Secretary 2002/3 STATIONS OF THE CROSS - Please make a note of the date that the stations of the cross will be conducted at the Holy Ghost Cathedral at 5p.m on the 14th 28th March and 11th April 2003 by the Goans in English. EASTER 2003 - Fr Wilfred de Souza from Nairobi will be here with us once again to celebrate the Easter Vigil Service commencing at 11p.m on Saturday 19th April 2003 at the Mombasa Institute. Please come and let us all celebrate this Easter together. REGISTRATION OF NEW MEMBERS - We would like to remind all those who are over the age of 18 years that they need to apply for individual membership to the Goan Community Mombasa. Kindly request Fatima Lobo to give you a form. EDUCATION - Congratulations to Randall Braganza who got an A in his KCSE exams Cedric Nicholls who got a B in his KCSE exams. BIRTHS - Congratulations to Nancy and Max, on the birth of their daughter, sister to Leroy and Kayla. CONDOLENCES - To Bridget D' Souza, her brother Cyril passed away in Goa. EACH ONE FEED ONE - We urge members to please donate to this program. We try to help the needy every month, but charity must begin at home. Kindly contact Sylvia Tavares or Warren Pereira with your donations. Thank you all. The Chairman and council members would like to wish you all A Happy Easter. Maureen De Souza. Communications Convenor GC Mombasa 2003 Our thoughts and prayers are with family friends in Kuwait. God-speed to the liberators of Iraq. God Bless the innocent citizens of Iraq !! __ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] A Newsweek Article --The Arrogant Empire....
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com Here is a nice article written by Fareed Zakaria on Newsweek http://www.msnbc.com/news/885222.asp It is rather long, but worth the time spent in reading. Fareed Zakaria, is apparently the son of Rafiq Zakaria, a former Congress leader from Bombay. He has appeared on a lot of MSNBC programmes and is a writer for Newsweek. Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: SGBhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Arrogant Empire Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:40:36 -0500 Here is a nice article written by Fareed Zakaria. http://www.msnbc.com/news/885222.asp It is rather long, but worth the time spent in reading. Fareed Zakaria, is apparently the son of Rafiq Zakaria of Bombay. He was a Congress leader. Shreenaguesh G. Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
[Goanet] Goa Meeting condemns United States war against Iraq.
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com --- Documented by Goa Desc Documentation Service circulated by Goa Civic Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph:2252660 --- --- United States war against Iraq condemned --- With the call to boycott the United States products, the people's rally against war, organised by the World Social Forum while disapproved the US intervention in Iraq, it described the war as a war against the millions of innocent Iraqi citizens, specially women and children. The rally echoed the sentiment of the international fraternity, described the war as the violation of international law and held it as a set-back to efforts to resolve conflicts between the nations through peaceful and lawful means, under the framework of the United Nations charter and the UN bill of rights. The rally resolved to convey to the US President, Mr George W Bush and to the UN Secretary-General, Mr Kofi Annan its absolute disapproval of the US invasion of Iraq. The resolution said: The war against Iraq is wholly unacceptable and cannot be justified. Nor can this repugnant action of US and its allies be legitimised by recourse to any God or religion. It was pointed out that the economic and environmental costs of the war are internationally borne and even Goans would also have to bear the consequences. We therefore call upon the UN Secretary-General to assume total control over this conflict on behalf of the international community of lawful and law-abiding nations and to demand from the US government a complete and immediate cessations of hostilities, the resolution added. The rally also demanded that the reconstruction of Iraq's economy should only be carried out henceforth under the overall supervision of the UN and its institutions. The resolution was adopted at the fag end of the meeting with those assembled, raising their hands to support it. Political leaders, who addressed the gathering, included the Nationalist Congress Party chief, Dr Wilfred D'Souza, the Goa pradesh Congress committee president, Ms Nirmala Sawant and Mr Matanhy Saldanha of the United Goans Democratic Party, coalition partner of the Goa government. Other leaders of the Communist Party of India, the Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party and the Communist Party of India-Marxist, besides ex-MLA, Mr Victor Gonsalves were present. The World Social Forum-Goa convenor, Mr Christopher Fonseca, Mr Raju Mangeshkar and Mr Rajan Narayan also addressed the gathering. The speakers unanimously criticised the US action against Iraq and demanded the US government be asked to cease hostilities. Dr Wilfred de Souza pointed out that the US can also attack India, using the same yardstick used against Iraq. Ms Nirmala Sawant suggested that the Goa government be asked to issue circulars to schools, before they disband for their vacations, to have peace marches in their areas to protest the war and demand peace. Despite world-wide protests, the Indian government has not taken an open stand against the war, she regretted. The war, she said, is destroying our humanity. Dr Meenakshi Martins said, There is also a need to organize village-level marches for peace and to organize prayers for peace.Referring to children and environment as the only two resources of the world, Ms Shanti Fonseca said, These resources are being threatened in the current war. We remained silent too long, she said and added that we have woken up a little late. The reward of silence is death, the reward of awakening is life, she added. Mr Satish Sonak said this is not a war but a slaughter or mass butchery of a kind never seen before. The US followed no rules. Its target in Iraq is not the Iraqi Army but property, women and children. Is this the way to solve the problems of the world, he asked Mr Ashwin Tombat stated that the US could also ask India to grant Kashmir its freedom or face American bombs.Dr Peter Ronny de Souza of the Department of Politics, Goa University, said the university should do its bit in providing authentic information about such political conflicts and the US interests. He said there is a dire need to expose the lies and deceit and misinformation, spread by the US government about its war with Iraq.He said the nations, both the US and the United Kingdom, are no democratic governments but juntas and should be labelled as such. The Navhind Times 24/03/03 page 3 - === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel:
[Goanet] Re: William D'souza/ Musician NEWS: 'Let music be balm ...'
For more information/links, see http://goanet.netfirms.com William, Could I bounce your note to others, so that others on the same wavelength could take it forward? FN On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, William D'Souza wrote: Hi Fred, How u doing? Thanx for the mail. Its very true music is an universal medium that can harmonise the world with no barriers.One sugesstion u people from the Goa world net shud organise a music concert for the goans all over as a media to spread the message thru music rather than hear or see press coverage of other states setting an example . Be realistic or it cud be irrelevant doing nothing. work out something we will contribute u for this good cause thru music. We goans shud come out from the shell. Lets hear from u ,good wishes take care Cheers William -- Frederick Noronha: http://www.fredericknoronha.net : When we speak of free Freelance Journalist : http://www.bytesforall.org : software we refer to Ph 0091.832.2409490 : Cell 0 9822 122436 : freedom, not price. ___ Goanet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet
