[Goanet]let's correct this info
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Response: Yes! Absolutely let's correct this gross mis-information. Please post your opinion and displeasure directly to THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES and not on this discussion site (a la) as in the pictures promoting tourism in Goa. Goans are known to take their displeasure out on each other. :=)) Should I translate this into Konkani? :=))). The difference between Goans and Mesticios is well known. This difference does not mean that one is superior and the other is inferior. It does mean we all have our heritage and are proud of it. The website administrator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] may not understand your message in Inglish or Angresi. So you can use Amchi Bhass ani tea bhair a few ... you know what watcha-ya-may-call-it...? :=)) Regards, GL, NY From: luis godinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Comment and let's correct this info on Luso-Indian , GOANS or Mesticos Below is the link: http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/asian/angloindians/angloind ians .htm You may like to know that I did write to the website administrator sometime ago [couple of months] to correct the info. My guess is that they have not been very keen to rectify the error or are misinformed. It is unfortunate that the Goan Community in the UK are in their slumber and many may not even know what is right or wrong! I am copying to some goanet contributors to join in this debated and have this corrected. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Invitation-Jaycee Creed Awards
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- INDIAN JAYCEES (A Global Youth Organisation Providing Leadership Development Opportunities) ZONE XI Sub- JAYCEE CREED AWARDS 2003- to be held on 28th December 2003, at 6.30 P.M. in the Hotel Nova Goa Conference Hall, Panaji-Goa Dear All, We, the Jaycees, are a Global Community of Young People between the age group of 18 to 40, who are part of various organizations across the World in more than 135 Countries, all affiliated to Junior Chamber International. The Jaycees of Zone XI (Goa) are a part of Indian Jaycees, an organization whose primary mission is to foster a new generation of future Indian leaders through its various programs and services. Through our program- The Jaycee Creed Awards, we seek to recognize the contributions of Individuals who have excelled in their respective fields and who exemplify the best attributes of Indian citizens. Our honorees are those Outstanding Citizens of India who are a role model in society and whose contributions and accomplishments have inspired thousands of others to seek similar heights. The Zone XI, Indian Jaycees will honor The Jaycee Creed Awardees of the Year 2003 at a glittering Awards Ceremony on 28th December 2003, at 6.30 P.M. in the Hotel Nova Goa Conference Hall, Panaji-Goa. The ceremony will highlight the career of each honoree in narrative form and will provide a stage from which the honorees can challenge and inspire young people from Goa and India. For each honoree, there will be a video presentation profiling his/her accomplishments, followed by the trophy presentation, and an acceptance speech. A program that was established in the year 1996, our honorees selected in the past few years have represented the heights of progress in the different human endeavors. While many have gone on to achieve even greater accomplishments, all have continued to serve humanity in a great variety of ways. Some of our past Awardees include Kiran Bedi, Supercop Julio Rebeiro, Eminent Scientist R. Mashelkar, the crusader against corruption Khairnar, International Pop Star Remo Fernandes, Versatile Goan Poet Shri Manoharrai Sardesai and Member of Parliament Shri Ramakant Angle. Outstanding Personalities, who are our Awardees for the present year, include those Individuals who have pushed the boundaries of what the human spirit can achieve and have illustrated through their unique talents how, in the words of the JCI Creed, Earth's Greatest Treasure lies in Human Personality, brotherhood of man transcends the soveriegnty of Nations and Service to humanity is the best work of life. These eminent personalities from Goa and India have achieved great heights in their illustrious careers and have brought glory to the State and the Nation. The Awardees, who will use the stage to motivate, encourage and inspire one and all, will together contribute to our philanthropic mission of providing the right kind thrust and impetus that is required to pave the road to collective and individual achievement for the citizens of Goa. The Jaycee Creed Awardees for this prestigious and premier Program of Zone XI(Goa Jaycees), i.e. Jaycee Creed Awards 2003 are: 1) Mr. Alexyz R. Fernandes- Goa's eminent cartoonist who cartoons for daily Herald, weeklies Goa Post and V Ixtt (Konkani) and monthly Goa Today. He has published a few thousand cartoons in Reader's Digest, Indian Express, Illustrated Weekly, Sportsweek, Mid-day, The Afternoon, The Daily, Sunday Observer, Eve's Weekly, Femina, Evening News, Navhind Times, Gulab, Gomantak Times, Weekender, etc , and 2) Brahmanand Shankwalkar- Ex-India Football Captain and one of Goa's most Outstanding Sportsmen. 3) Datta Kumar V. Naik - a product of St. Xavier's Mapusa who showed that youngsters given the opportunities in Goa can even receive a Certificate of Recognition from the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). He is presently a Scientist occupying one of the top positions at NASA. 4) Mr Jackie Shroff- Hindi Film Star, and 5) Mr Ravindra Kelekar- Eminent Goan literary figure All are cordially invited for the Program, JAYCEE CREED AWARDS 2003, which will be held on 28th December 2003, at 6.30 P.M. in the Hotel Nova Goa Conference Hall, Panaji-Goa A Merry Christmas to one and all. yours sincerely, Jc HGF Sadashiv Shirsat (Chairman and Zone President- Zone XI) Jc HGF Pravin Sabnis (Zone President Elect-2004) Jc Kedar Amonkar ( Host President- Panaji Jaycees) Jc Sandeep Heble( Host President- St- Inez Jaycees) (The Goa Jaycees website is at http://www.goajaycees.org and Indian Jaycees website is at http://www.indianjaycees.org ) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid
Re: [Goanet]Who are the Goans?
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- --- Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Filomena, A few months ago there was the release, at Lisbon's Casa de Goa, of a three-volume genealogical study of several Portuguese descendants of the former Portuguese India, funded by Fundação Oriente. The title of the book was Os Luso-Descendentes da India Portuguesa. - I would say that Luso-Indians are precisely these Luso-Descendentes, i.e. those whom we used to call Descendentes or Mestiços. Now, Luis's saying that the offspring of the mixed marriages between the Portuguese and Indians, who were known as Luso-Indians, are now called Goans, is utterly wrong. Jorge Dear Jorge, I must admit that I never heard of Luso-Descendentes from my parents. You seem to say that the book you refer to says that they are both the Descendentes (Portuguese settled in Goa from the earliest Portuguese times who never inter-married with Indians/Goans but married other Portuguese settlers) and Mesticos (the offspring of intermarriage between Portuguese and Indians/Goans). The Goans of only Indian blood are not Luso-Descendentes. Where did the term Goans originate? In early writings, and even in my personal experience with Portuguese people, the Portuguese seem to refer to us Goans as Indianos. But I heard Portuguese-speaking Goans call our community Goeses. Anyway, as far as I heard, the Goans are Indians of Goa who never inter-married with the Portuguese. Thanks for your clarification, Filomena __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Merry Christmas
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dearest Joel, WISH YOU A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS Agnelo Mascarenhas - Original Message - From: Joel D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 11:28 PM Subject: [Goanet-news]Goacom GoaNow Christmas 2003 Special Goanet meets in Goa: Dec 27 at 12 noon, Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. See you there! -- Greeting all GoaNetters: Wish you all A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS Today's GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS carry a Goacom GoaNow Christmas 2003 Special at http://www.goacom.com/goanow/christmas/xmas.htm Cheers. Joel. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: NRI Cell and its Detractors
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Tony, You write: It has become fashionable for us to slam any initiative taken by others without offering any viable alternative or willingness to participate in it This is a predictable response but surely you must know that there is no truth in such an allegation. To remind you, Aires Rodrigues arranged the 1999 and 2000 Goan Int. Conventions. He felt unable to continue to do so and we discussed the need for someone suitable to take over. Aires suggested only one candidate, you. He asked me to put out the feelers so I spoke to you and after considerable hesitation you agreed. Before, during or after the 2001 Convention at the Kala Academy, Aires did not slam the initiatives that you took. Far from it, he supported you fully and did all the work in arranging the post-Convention cocktail party in my Goa apartment. Remember it? Unfortunately you chose to drop out of WorldWide Goans after the 2001 event. However, we respect that decision and do not hold it against you. My understanding it that Aires is not critical of your role and is not attacking you personally. He is critical of the Goa Facilitation Centre (GFC) for the reasons he has made abundantly clear. I do not myself agree with all he says but fully support the main thrusts of his criticism. Why? I was invited to the post-Convention meeting at EDC House after the 2002 event. I voiced by criticism of NRIs seeking special privileges and handouts from the Goa Government at the expense of the locals. I emphasized that to be taken seriously, the GFC should set itself easy targets that were affordable, benefited a substantial number of NRIs and had the effect on improving the image of the GFC. I described three such possibilities: 1. Publish a regular (initially monthly) GFC e-mail newsletter notifying NRIs of the GFC developments and outlining opportunities, case studies etc. 2. Create a central enquiry point in Goa for dealing with requests for information from NRIs and advising them regarding their complaints. 3. Produce a short weekly Goa News video clips service on the Internet, in Konkani with English sub-titles. This could, very gradually, be developed into a 24 hours service with learn Konkani courses, teatrs, Village feasts and yatras, cookings demos, travel programmes, etc. and funded by advertising. Basically a web-based 24/7 service. All this was received with great acclaim. I was subsequently informed that the CM had agreed to the suggestions and they would be implemented very soon.I have heard nothing further. Is it just a talking shop? With the greatest respect for the difficult role you face, Eddie Fernandes. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Nair better offer a proper apology to JC
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Mr. Radhakrishnan Nair WRT your most recent comment on GoaNet [how come you in Nassau share the same ISP with the other crackpot Vivek, who's supposed to be in Uganda?] What do you mean Nassau? I demand a proper apology on GoaNet for this blatantly FALSE accusation. I believe the gentleman from Macau (or wherever) has identified himself. I hope you will accept that there are more than a few Colacos in this world, as there are Nairs in Goa. However, there is ONLY ONE Colaco family in Nassau that is us. No Nairs and Only One Colaco family. Not one of them is named Bernado. If you make journalistic ghuspott - keep it to yourself, and PLEASE do NOT involve our name in your incompetence. BTW: whatever happened to the answers of the questions put to you? Your last response indicated that you were busy. DO I smell a Cochin Duck anywhere? sincerely jose colaco presently in FL, USA - (Bernado Colaco wrote: I guess Nair speaks of accepting bharati failure in Goa. For more than 4 decades of brainwashing Goans have become naive and guillible in accepting a 3rd world rule.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Christmas New Year Wishes.
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Joel, At the outset on behalf of all my family members I wish you all your family members a very Merry X'mass a very Happy New Year filled with Love,Joy,Happiness,Peace,Prosperity, religious fervour what-have-U may you be more filled with Holy Spirit strengthen U in your day to day job thus be a strong pillar of our democracy.All the best then may our Almighty continue to bless you. Warmest regards, Yours sincerely, Simon ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Christmas New Year Wishes.
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Frederick, On behalf of my family my humble self, I wish you ur family A Merry Xmass filled with Joy,Peace Happiness, Goodness, Love, Prosperity,Health what-have-you also through out the new Year. May you continue to rise up beome a famous journalist thus a meaningful 4th. pillar of our Democracy-in particular for Goa. All the best then may God continue to bless you all. Warmest regards, Yours sincerely Simon. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]NRIs SHOULD BOYCOTT GOMANT VISHWA SAMMELAN
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- NRIs should consider boycotting the stage-managed and extravagant three-day Gomant Vishwa Sammelan to be held at Kala Academy from 3rd to 5th January 2004 and send a clear signal to the Government of Goa in no uncertain terms that they should no longer be taken for a ride. Grievances of NRIs have repeatedly been discussed at length and this Sammelan is being held with ulterior motives and a vested agenda at taxpayers expense. The conclave is going to be a criminal waste of scarce public funds without any concrete results in sight and a mere merry-making party for chums and friends of the communal and casteist BJP who will pack the hall for a show in the name of NRIs. It is ridiculous that the Government claims that 700 NRI delegates would attend the conference The authorities may struggle to get 70 NRI s to attend knowing very well the event is a futile exercise. 2004 will see Goans have to pay exorbitant parking fees and other enhanced taxes ostensibly to pay amongst others for such a Sammelan that could very well have been avoided. The NRI Goa Facilitation Centre (GFC) set up by the Government of Goa is still to achieve any concrete results though it was started with ambitious plans and tall promises. Since enough of talking has been done, it is time to start taking concrete steps to meet the aspirations of NRIs. The Government of Goa is using the GFC to present to the world a deceptive image that the quality of life in Goa has improved. By lighting up Panjim as has been done, will fool no one. We can see utter darkness down the tunnel. The one major factor that drives NRIs from returning to their land is Corruption and Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar has for political compulsions not shown any initiative to root out this evil as was promised. Goan politicians and their chums have to be condemned for making frequent overseas trips as these trips at taxpayer expense have in reality been shopping and sightseeing jaunts. Chief Minister Parrikar whilst in the Opposition had vehemently opposed such trips and on assuming office had assured that he would not allow any. He has conveniently deviated from his assurance to keep his colleagues happy and more importantly his chair intact. Government of Goa has to be deplored for sending a delegation to the Gulf recently to study NRI grievances in spite of Government already being fully aware of the longstanding NRI grievances and vows. To encourage Goan NRIs to retire in Goa, the Government should seriously address the issue of old age and medical care. The overall infrastructure of Goa is an issue of great concern and the steep rise in dacoities and murders is also something that scares NRIs away. Many Goans feel the urge to play a role in shaping the future of Goa but the authorities would have to encourage NRIs to return and invest their skills and savings in the land of their roots and mere holding Sammelans at tax payer's expense would be an exercise in vain. It is time the Government confronts the reality that NRIs cannot be lured and fooled by merely holding sammelans.The authorities who are fully aware of the demands and concerns should get their act together and prove to the NRI community that their hopes and aspirations are being met. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]Goacom GoaNow Christmas 2003 Special
Goanet meets in Goa: Dec 27 at 12 noon, Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. See you there! -- Greeting all GoaNetters: Wish you all A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS Today's GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS carry a Goacom GoaNow Christmas 2003 Special at http://www.goacom.com/goanow/christmas/xmas.htm Cheers. Joel. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goacom GoaNow Christmas 2003 Special
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Greeting all GoaNetters: Wish you all A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS Today's GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS carry a Goacom GoaNow Christmas 2003 Special at http://www.goacom.com/goanow/christmas/xmas.htm Cheers. Joel. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT Below is some information, which was brought to my notice by goanetter luis godinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] He came across it at http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/asian/angloindians/angloindians .htm = = = In 1500 the Portuguese Governor of India, Alfonso d'Albuquerque encouraged his countrymen to marry Indian women in order to establish Portuguese authority in India. The offspring of these mixed marriages between the Portuguese and Indians were known as Luso-Indians and now they are called Goans: a common community in Goa, Bombay (Mumbai) and West Coast India. In its early days, the East India Company's Board of Directors did not allow families or wives to travel along with its officials and soldiers to India. The English missed the companionship of their women and many of them had relationships with Luso-Indian and Indian women. The offspring of these mixed marriages and relationships are known as the Anglo-Indians. In 1687, the EIC encouraged marriages between European soldiers and Indian women, and even paid the mother of mixed offspring five rupees on the day the child was christened. Until 1911 Anglo-Indians were universally known as Eurasians. For occupational purposes and as a point of differentiation from the Europeans and the Indians, they were designated Statutory Natives of India; while for the defence of Empire purposes, they were called European British Subjects. = = = Here's what Godinho writes: I did write to the website administrator sometime ago [couple of months] to correct the information. My guess is that they are not very keen to rectify the error. Hence, I feel that something should be done to get the information corrected. May be some of our learned Goans could write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to have the error rectified. I am copying this message to some goanet contributors to join in this debate. x x x ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Death Announcement
Title: Death Announcement 21 Dec 2003- Mario Roque Bento Rodrigues, Seraulim (ex Nairobi) Husband of Liberata, Father of Teresa/Augustino, Linda/Baptist, Vera, Judy, Dominic Grandfather of Samuel, Curtis, Christine, Andrea, Allison and Victoria. Funeral Mass at 12:45 on Friday 2nd January 2004, at Sacred Heart Church, Mere Road, Leicester. Baptist Carrasco SSA331 (Office: 020 7 733 2859 Mobile:07802194033 Fax: 0207 7 7372687 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pp106 BRIXTON T.E 45 GRESHAM RD LONDON SW9 7NU
[Goanet]Re: Gomant Vishwa Sammelan
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Ref. your following comment: What do you mean by non-official honorary Chairman, Tony? We all know that Chandrakant Keni is the Honorary (i.e. without any emoluments) Chairman of the NRI Facilitation Centre. But was he or wasn't he appointed by the Government - or rather, by the Chief Minister - of Goa? If yes, he cannot be deemed to be non-official, can he? - What I meant by the term non-official was that he was not a Government servant holding an official post. Perhaps it was not the appropriate term to use - I stand corrected! ---Tony Correia-Afonso. == From: A.Correia-Afonso. Address: 542 Pulvaddo, Benaulim, Goa 403716, India. 'Phone: 91-832-2772063 Fax: 91-832-2772062 (prior intimation) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]25 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 25 Dec 2003 We wish all GoaNetters A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS USHERED IN: Carol singing, chimes of church bells, fireworks and solemn midnight religious services ushered in the Christmas celebrations throughout the State. Despite the chill wind and fog, Catholics all over Goa attended midnight mass in their respective parishes which was followed by get-togethers and parties which continued till the early hours of the morning. Christmas trees and cribs were set up at strategic places unfolding the Christmas story of the birth of Jesus Christ. (H) MASSES, DANCES AND FUN: Christmas celebrations began at midnight with mass at churches all over the State and followed by dances and various entertaining programmes. The choirs were echoing in the streets, city circles and houses, bringing to the common man the message of the birth of Jesus Christ at Bethlehem. (GT) FESTIVAL OF LOVE AND BROTHERHOOD: Christmas descended on Goa as on the whole world to the song of angels, now an ageless yuletide anthem, Glory to God on high and Peace to men on earth. The midnight mass was held outdoors at the Mary Immaculate Conception church in Panaji. In his homily, the parish priest, Fr Antimo Gomes, used the anecdote of a man who roamed the whole world seeking an answer to his question: What language does God speak? (NT) GOVERNOR, CM GREET PEOPLE: The Governor, Mr. Kidar Nath Sahani and the Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, have extended warm greetings to the people of Goa on the occasion of Christmas. Mr Sahani said, At a time like now when the world is witnessing many problems affecting peace and order, Jesus Christ's message of human compassion, love and brotherhood are becoming more and more relevant to be followed by one and all. Mr Parrikar said, It (Christmas) is time for introspection to strive for spiritual growth as commanded by the scriptures. (NT) VAILANKANI STATUE, CROSS DESECRATED: In a shocking incident on Christmas eve, a roadside cross and statue of Our Lady of Vailankani were desecrated by vandals in Ponda city in the wee hours on December 24. In a police complaint, Daniel Fernandes said that when he went to open his service station, located near the cross at Upper Bazaar, he was shocked to see the cross and the statue desecrated. (H) MUMBAI GIRL DRUGGED IN BUS, ROBBED: A Goa-bound passenger was relieved of her gold ornaments worth Rs.13,000, after being drugged with a biscuit offered by a co-passenger. Nancy Pinto (26), employed in Mumbai boarded the bus at Santa Cruz (East) to come down to Nagoa-Bardez for Christmas. A male passenger, seated next to Nancy, befriended her and offered her a biscuit. Shortly after eating the biscuit, Nancy lost her consciousness. When she woke up at about 4 am, she was stunned to find all her persons belongings-a gold chain, two bangles, two rings, credit card-as well as the co-passenger, missing. (H) RAIDS YIELD HUGE CACHE OF DRUGS: Food and Drugs Administration inspectors conducted raids at Vagator and Anjuna and seized a large stock of sedatives, sex-boosting drugs and anesthetics worth Rs.2 lakh. While some of the drugs were unlicensed, others had expiry dates erased from the label. (GT) BLACKENING OF GU PROF'S FACE CONDEMNED: The Goa University Teachers' Association, Taleigao, yesterday expressed shock at the incidence of face blackening of its colleague Dr Joe D'Souza, attached to the Department of Microbiology, during office hours by some student activist on December 23. (GT) MAN FOUND MURDERED: Anthony Gonsalves from Vasco, believed to be a security guard, was found brutally murdered on December 24 afternoon at the Candolim beach. The victim had grievous injuries on the neck. (H) BODY FISHED OUT: The Curchorem Fire Brigade fished out the dead body of one Nagraj Samu Sindhigar of Guddamal, Sanvordem, from the Zuari river at Mirabag in Sanvordem. Nagraj was missing since December 17. (H) 'GUTKHA' SEIZED: About 84 kg of Star Gutkha worth Rs.50,000 along with a Maruti van has been seized by Ponda police on Tuesday night. One Narendra Matkar has been arrested in this connection. (H) SHOW-CAUSE NOTICE FOLLOWING GT REPORT: Taking serious note of a report published by Gomantak Times, the Registrar of Co-operative Society, Panaji, yesterday served a show cause notice to the managing committee of the Navelim-Telaulim Service Co-operative Society Limited, asking why it should not be removed and an administrator appointed in its place. (GT) 'ISSUE ORDINANCE' TO SOLVE MUNDKAR ISSUE: The MGP yesterday demanded that the State government should issue an Ordinance to solve the Mundkars' issue in view of the Bombay High Court striking down two amendments to the Goa Mundkars (Protection from Eviction) Act, 1976. (GT) TAPS RUN DRY ON CHRISTMAS EVE: Five villages of the coastal belt from Colva
[Goanet]Utopian Goa
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- I repeat my question to Vivek: How come you in Uganda share the same ISP with the other crackpot Colaco, who's supposed to be in Nassau? A Merry Christmas to you once again! -- R.K. Nair _ Spread festive cheer. Download X'mas wallpapers. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/christmas/downloads.asp Get into the mood! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Comment and let's correct this info on Luso-Indian , GOANS or Mesticos
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Filomena: Thanks for your response to my mail on the Goanet. The information is on a website called: Moving [with reference to the UK]. The Intro to the site reads as follows: --quote- The vision of Moving Here is to explore, record and illustrate why people came to England over the last 200 years, and what their experiences were and continue to be. The site mainly looks at the Caribbean, Irish, Jewish and South Asian communities but we are growing all the time! ---unquote-- Below is the link: http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/asian/angloindians/angloindians .htm You may like to know that I did write to the website administrator sometime ago [couple of months] to correct the info. My guess is that they have not been very keen to rectify the error or are misinformed. It is unfortunate that the Goan Community in the UK are in their slumber and many may not even know what is right or wrong ! Hence, I personally feel this should be corrected. May be some of our learned goans could write to the following email to have this error rectified. I am copying to some goanet contributors to join in this debated and have this corrected. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year 2004 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Reprehensible Act!
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Whatever be the alleged grievance, the recent attack by AVBP activists on Prof. Joe D'Souza in his office in the Microbiology Dept. of Goa University must be roundly condemned. It ill behoves these activists to take the law into their own hands, particularly after the issue concerned was already being dealt with by the courts. Since both the Education and Home portfolios are with Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, it is incumbent upon him to initiate appropriate action to ensure that the guilty are punished. ---Tony Correia-Afonso. == From: A.Correia-Afonso. Address: 542 Pulvaddo, Benaulim, Goa 403716, India. 'Phone: 91-832-2772063 Fax: 91-832-2772062 (prior intimation) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Christmas ushered in with fervor
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- RE: Christmas ushered in with fervor GL's commentary: From: renebarreto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Superb story on Christmas ushered in with fervor in Goa. Carol singing chimes of church bells, fireworks and solemn midnight religious services ushered in the Christmas celebrations throughout the state. Response: What a festive occasion. And all of this in a long-sleeve shirt or just a pull-over in 32-35 degree temp!!! Oh those Canadians, Brits and Delhiwallas (white and brown) must be enjoying ani having borem vodlem ani mucho pleasure. Even as the government has relaxed the curbs on noise pollution granting a relaxation on use of loud music from 10 pm to 12 midnight, most of the religious services were held indoors. Response: Ani after the church services all those hugs ani kisses ani Boa natalanchi festas. Saud anim sucego tumcam anim amcam. Teenagers are ready to go for their parties - with or without gorremnt. What gorrment meen? :=))) However, in the northern coastal belt police kept a close vigil on late night parties and dances and organisers of many such shows were directed to shut down as per the deadline. Response: What a bummer!!! Some old Xamai or sasumai is making sure the law is upheld or is it a cyberGoan? :=)) Captain Sal Godenhio is on his walkie-talkie to Capitaum Pandurang. Poilem rre!!! Christmas carolers were also seen at various shopping malls and merry old Santa Claus was seen distributing sweets and gifts to little children. During the week, a large number of Christmas tree parties have been organized in view of the tourist season. Response: Khuxealbhorit Natalam! Great atmosphere. Reflects the disposable income in the state! This time of the year many Goenkars are known to drink to his wife's health so often that it ruins his own. :=))) For the first time after almost a decade Goa is witnessing a flood of domestic tourists and all hotels have been booked till after the new year. Even the KTC bus terminus' in Panjim and Margao have been witnessing a flood of tourists descending into Goa during the last ten days. Response: We hope these visitors will have a great time in Goa and be repeat patrons and clientels. Which means, we hope Goans will go out of their way to make these vacationers welcome as is the usual Goan tradition. This is even if the 'dukranchem mass' is expensive the aunty with the dukors is making a financial bundle:=) ani songlem sorpatel has run out.:=)) Goa is the place to be!!! Mogachim Natalam!!! Bolaiki anim Sovostcai Novea Vorsan 2004. Viva Goa! Regards, GL, NY ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]NRI Cell and Detractors
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Detractors do just that : detract. Very rarely do detractors add value to an idea,concept or activity. This problem is not peculiar to the NRI cell; it is universal. It is one reason why the individual detractors do not organise themselves into an association ...but suggest that the OTHERS should form an association or do the work. In another context Vivian and Filomena are doing a good job. I have no axe to grind with them. For the NRI cell they will remain detractors unless they are willing to organize the association that they are talking about! There is also a vacancy in the NRI Facilitation Cell,it appears. Any takers from amongst the NRIs turned moradores of Goa or repat gaunkars? Viva Goa. Miguel Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:23:33 +0530 From: Tony Correia-Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whereas the NRI Cell may have its shortcomings, the prospects for a NRI Association to replace it, as proposed by Vivian and supported by Filomena, are none too bright judging by past and present experience. It has become fashionable for us to slam any initiative taken by others without offering any viable alternative or willigness to participate in it. How many NRIs have taken the trouble to register themselves with the Cell since the last Convention (despite the fact that the form has been available on the website)? - Less than 200! I understand that there were hardly a dozen responses to the 2,300 plus e-mails sent by the Cell to addresses of NRIs available with them. How many have taken the trouble to visit the Cell's website www.nrigoa.com? During our recent visit to the Gulf, the Chairman of the Cell challenged anyone present to quote an instance where the Cell had failed to respond to any enquiry and there were no takers! It appears to be case of physician heal thyself! ---Tony Correia-Afonso. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]NRI Cell and its Detractors
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:23:33 +0530 From: Tony Correia-Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]NRI Cell and its Detractors Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whereas the NRI Cell may have its shortcomings, the prospects for a NRI Association to replace it, as propsed by Vivian and supported by Filomena, are none too bright judging by past and present experience. Aires accepted the appointment as Vice-Chairman of the Cell and then resigned. I declined to take his place for personal reasons viz. health, age and the distance from my village home to the headquarters in Panjim. These were the same reaons which led me to step down as President of the World Wide Goans after the Convention in December 2001. I made a public appeal at the conlusion of the Convention as well as through the Net and personal approaches to several persons to take over the post, but no one was willing to oblige! It has become fashionable for us to slam any initiative taken by others without offering any viable alternative or willigness to participate in it. == Dear Tony I resigned as Vice -Chairman of the NRI Goa Facilitation Centre due to my responsibilities to the legal profession and the bureaucratic nightmare of the set-up of the Centre. My role at the NRI Goa Facilitation Centre would have been in conflict with my profession as I am appearing, and will continue to appear in various cases against the Government. It would be improper for me to be any kind of Government functionary. I am also dismayed at the way the Govt. bureaucracy functions and at the snail's speed at which things move and I was not inclined to be a party to a set-up that would not achieve quick and concrete results. Mr Chandrakant Keni had been coaxing me to accompany him on this recent gulf jaunt. I declined as I would never travel an inch at tax payer's expense. You may have felt otherwise. Regards, Aires Rodrigues ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Gavaskar
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Mr. Tony Martin seems to have misunderstood the meaning of the British usage of the word steward. In Goa, perhaps, like in the airlines, the term steward is used to refer to a person who serves food in a restaurant. But in the context of the elite clubs in the U.K., e.g. the M.C.C., a steward means a member of the top-most managing committee. So , Sunil Gavaskar was insulted - not by a waiter, but by a member of the Managing Committee. Hence his refusal to accept the honorary membership of the M.C.C. Regards, Thalmann Pradeep Pereira, Vasco-da-Gama, Goa. - Original Message - From: Anthony Barretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: [Goanet]Gavaskar Hi friends Stewards are stewards but if Sunil Gavaskar refused his honorary membership at the MCC only because of a steward's discourtesy I would rate him below the steward. Not that my rating matters. Tony Martin Reference Message: 3 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:34:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Goanet]Re: Jamaican poet Benjamin Zephaniah rejects Queen's offer Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] George/Goanetters, Do we have (m)any examples of Goans/Indians who have refused similar awards (not necessarily British awards) or memberships to esteemed organizations worldwide ? I know one example - Sunil Gavaskar refused honorary membership at the MCC because a ground steward once called out to him, Oi! Where do you think you are going? Best wishes - Bosco __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Gomant Vishwa Sammelan
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:55:49 +0530 From: Tony Correia-Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Gomant Vishwa Sammelan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Floriano, I fully appreciate your concerns about the N.R.I. Cell being associated with the E.D.C. When C.M. Parrikar accepted the suggestion for establishment of an NRI cell at the WWG Convention in Dec.2000, he wanted the organisers to take over its management and was averse to it operating under any government agency, but since the necessary resources and infrastructure was lacking, he had perforce to accept the reponsibility. Since he did not want it to function directly as a Government Department, the next alternative was to associate it with a Public Corporation such as the EDC. It should, however, be clarified that although its offices are located in the EDC premises and one of its officers has been deputed as a Nodal Officer to the Cell, it does not function directly under the EDC management but under a non-official honorary Chairman Mr. Chandrakant Keni. ---Tony Correia-Afonso. Tony, Pls check the NRI Facilitation Centre website at www.nrigoa.com. It says very clearly that the centre is managed by EDC Limited. A Government of Goa Financial Investment Corporation Dr. Atmaram Borkar Road, Panaji, Goa 403001. Tel.:Panaji 2224544,2227604-608. www.edcgoa.com There's only so much that one can cover up. Regards, Aires Rodrigues ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]NRI returnees in Goa
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Regarding Tony Correia-Alfonso's posting about the official NRI Cell in Goa. Let me first correct what Tony says: I DID NOT propose an NRI association to REPLACE the official NRI cell. In fact, I suggested an association of former Non-Resident Goans who have returned to settle in Goa. I specifically stated that the group I was suggesting would not be a replacement for the official NRI Facilitation Center. Instead it would inter-act with and complement the offical center. As a group we would be listened to, as a lone voice carries no weight. What I suggested was an association of NRI returnees as a self-help group to share experiences and to assist each other with the problems unique to those of us who have returned to Goa. The NRI Facilitation Center has its vision on a far higher plane, and appears to have a single mission - to get NRI investment in Goa whether financial or through personal expertise. Perhaps it stands for Non Resident INVESTMENT Facilitation Center Tony, having called out to Goans several years ago, to return to their mother land, should have more empathy for those who heeded the call. From personal experience I can relate my frustrating experiences in' dealing with the bureaucracy for mundane tasks such as purchasing a vehicle, getting a drivers license and other matters, all because I do not have a Ration card, and was derogatorily called a bhailo. Issues unique to holders of foreign passport include dealing with the Customs service, Police Foreigners registration procedures, Tax issues etc. Is there anyone at the NRI Facilitation center who can guide us or help us with such matters ? My experience with bureaucracies anywhere in the world, and more particularly in Goa, has been dismal. That is why I have a deep-seated suspicion of anything in which the bureaucracy is involved. If one puts a value to the time put in by some top officials of the Government to organize the Samelan, that alone would be a heavy expenditure, that could be better utlized elsewhere for the betterment of Goa. We can agree to disagree, but I stand by my beliefs. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]25 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet meets in Goa: Dec 27 at 12 noon, Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. See you there! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 25 Dec 2003 We wish all GoaNetters A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS USHERED IN: Carol singing, chimes of church bells, fireworks and solemn midnight religious services ushered in the Christmas celebrations throughout the State. Despite the chill wind and fog, Catholics all over Goa attended midnight mass in their respective parishes which was followed by get-togethers and parties which continued till the early hours of the morning. Christmas trees and cribs were set up at strategic places unfolding the Christmas story of the birth of Jesus Christ. (H) MASSES, DANCES AND FUN: Christmas celebrations began at midnight with mass at churches all over the State and followed by dances and various entertaining programmes. The choirs were echoing in the streets, city circles and houses, bringing to the common man the message of the birth of Jesus Christ at Bethlehem. (GT) FESTIVAL OF LOVE AND BROTHERHOOD: Christmas descended on Goa as on the whole world to the song of angels, now an ageless yuletide anthem, Glory to God on high and Peace to men on earth. The midnight mass was held outdoors at the Mary Immaculate Conception church in Panaji. In his homily, the parish priest, Fr Antimo Gomes, used the anecdote of a man who roamed the whole world seeking an answer to his question: What language does God speak? (NT) GOVERNOR, CM GREET PEOPLE: The Governor, Mr. Kidar Nath Sahani and the Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, have extended warm greetings to the people of Goa on the occasion of Christmas. Mr Sahani said, At a time like now when the world is witnessing many problems affecting peace and order, Jesus Christ's message of human compassion, love and brotherhood are becoming more and more relevant to be followed by one and all. Mr Parrikar said, It (Christmas) is time for introspection to strive for spiritual growth as commanded by the scriptures. (NT) VAILANKANI STATUE, CROSS DESECRATED: In a shocking incident on Christmas eve, a roadside cross and statue of Our Lady of Vailankani were desecrated by vandals in Ponda city in the wee hours on December 24. In a police complaint, Daniel Fernandes said that when he went to open his service station, located near the cross at Upper Bazaar, he was shocked to see the cross and the statue desecrated. (H) MUMBAI GIRL DRUGGED IN BUS, ROBBED: A Goa-bound passenger was relieved of her gold ornaments worth Rs.13,000, after being drugged with a biscuit offered by a co-passenger. Nancy Pinto (26), employed in Mumbai boarded the bus at Santa Cruz (East) to come down to Nagoa-Bardez for Christmas. A male passenger, seated next to Nancy, befriended her and offered her a biscuit. Shortly after eating the biscuit, Nancy lost her consciousness. When she woke up at about 4 am, she was stunned to find all her persons belongings-a gold chain, two bangles, two rings, credit card-as well as the co-passenger, missing. (H) RAIDS YIELD HUGE CACHE OF DRUGS: Food and Drugs Administration inspectors conducted raids at Vagator and Anjuna and seized a large stock of sedatives, sex-boosting drugs and anesthetics worth Rs.2 lakh. While some of the drugs were unlicensed, others had expiry dates erased from the label. (GT) BLACKENING OF GU PROF'S FACE CONDEMNED: The Goa University Teachers' Association, Taleigao, yesterday expressed shock at the incidence of face blackening of its colleague Dr Joe D'Souza, attached to the Department of Microbiology, during office hours by some student activist on December 23. (GT) MAN FOUND MURDERED: Anthony Gonsalves from Vasco, believed to be a security guard, was found brutally murdered on December 24 afternoon at the Candolim beach. The victim had grievous injuries on the neck. (H) BODY FISHED OUT: The Curchorem Fire Brigade fished out the dead body of one Nagraj Samu Sindhigar of Guddamal, Sanvordem, from the Zuari river at Mirabag in Sanvordem. Nagraj was missing since December 17. (H) 'GUTKHA' SEIZED: About 84 kg of Star Gutkha worth Rs.50,000 along with a Maruti van has been seized by Ponda police on Tuesday night. One Narendra Matkar has been arrested in this connection. (H) SHOW-CAUSE NOTICE FOLLOWING GT REPORT: Taking serious note of a report published by Gomantak Times, the Registrar of Co-operative Society, Panaji, yesterday served a show cause notice to the managing committee of the Navelim-Telaulim Service Co-operative Society Limited, asking why it should not be removed and an administrator appointed in its place. (GT) 'ISSUE ORDINANCE' TO SOLVE MUNDKAR ISSUE: The MGP yesterday demanded that the State government should issue an Ordinance to solve the Mundkars' issue in view of the Bombay High Court striking down two amendments to the Goa Mundkars (Protection from Eviction) Act, 1976. (GT) TAPS RUN DRY ON CHRISTMAS EVE: Five villages of the coastal belt from Colva