[Goanet]Menage a Trois/Add Nanvam
Here are the lyrics of the song ADD NANVAM: Singer: Emeliano de Borda Lyrics by: Domnick Vaz Sangtam khalti utranim, goroz aikonk sogleanim Konnui mhunntelet Emeliano sangta kosli kannim Hanvem aikolam kananim, sangon zaitea lokanim Goemche sogle gaum famad mhunn add nanvanim Ek-ek ganvank toxench ghorak, add nanvam assat khoreanim Punn tim add nanvam ghatlelim purvozanim Tum put zalear khaxea gaumcho, gaumchim add nanvam zannam zaucho Aum zannam tim add nanvam sangtam bhavanim Bedxekarank mhunntat dantan tarum khailole Cormonnkar kirmidor - pain putank marlole Orlekar doule - douleanim xetant pez jeulole Varkemkar virar - sokallchi ladhin kelole Bannalkar pixe - baint lipon raulole Colvenkar kole - Bannalche monti sokol roddlole Bettpattkar chunkar - te chuno kanddun vinktale Mazordkar murdar - Devak bandar dovolole Kanngam chorunk guelole Adim xinknnar munis thodde, choddxe kudde asson dolle Vhoddle burgue raknne distale gorvam kodde Choranchi neidad Cansalle Velsaumkarank tum polle Binddanchim solam rostear meutalim Dabole Vasco sogleank ambeam modde ruchiche khube Chicale Sam Jacint Zuemkar - te boddkan tambddele Avoi vhoddle bukul Curtalle Naguiam igorz bandunk chire haddle Ratche dongrar goddbodd kortalet Sancoalle Cansallkar chor neidadik xet chortale Velsaumkar khuim sokallche xit jeutale Dabolkar binddam solam vonttank laitale Vascokar makodd ratche ambeamcher boison rautale Chiklekar khube dorian buddon kaddlole Sam Jacint Zuemkar xedde boddkan tambddele Curtallkar bukul lokache buddkule foddtale Naguiemkar taxe igorzen bandunk chire tastale Sankoallkar ghodde ratche dongramcher daumtale Goemchi ithias hi khori, sogott zanna zalear bori Chodd korun atamchea burgueank kaim hi khobor nam Konnank aum okman korinam vo aum he ghoddun sangonam Somplelea Evak zor jinn sangon zannam Vernam, Nuvem, Seraulim- undir mamancho gaum Moddgovam Navelim kaddun to famad gaum Chinchonnam Velim anik aum sangonam Assolna sogott tumi zannam Cuncolim kaddun to vhoddlo gaum Canncona Vernemkar boil te tokli haloitale Nuemkar uxear kansou kaddunk matien purlole Suralkar piddeam mez mhunn konnui sangtole Moddgoumkar undir bat kanddun pol kelole Navelkar thembi te thembe dakoilole Chinchonnkar firingui munis ithiasin pacharlole Vellekar landde te bhioun poulole Osonnkar mog korunk uxear kopelan mog kortale Cuncollkar dha-na-dhan te khuimcheanui daumtale Canconnkar naddgue naddguea mapan lokak naddtale Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA Friends, What you so call a village patron-animal is nothing but 'Add Navam' (name calling) I would like to list some village 'add Navam from the Salcete side and would like to know if there are similar ones Bardez, Panjim. These are not my own but I have heard these from the album of Hortencio Pereira 'Khobrank lagon' a song by Emilano 'Add Navam'. I do not mean to offend anyone but these are the names that our ancestors had kept with reasons and if you are true goan we should all know them. I do not have the full lyrics of the song but it goes this way... Kormonkar (Carmona) KIRMIDOR - putank jivexim marlole Vollekar (Orlim) DOULLE - douleani xetant pez jeutale Varkimkar (Varca) IRAD - sokallche ladhin kelole Bannalkar (Benaulim) PIXE - baint lipon raulole Colimkar (Colva) KOLLEe - banall noint socol rodlole Berpatkar (Betalbatim) - CHUNKAR - te chuno kaddun vinktale Mazoddkar (Majorda) MUDDAR - Devak bandak dovorlole - kanngam chorunk gelole Cansaulimkar ( Cansaulim) CHOR - navidadik xett chortale Vasco-car MAKODD - ratche ambeamcher boson rautale Kudtarkar BUKOOL - lokache budkule fodtale Sankvallcar GODDE - ratche dongracher daumtale Vernekar (Verna) BOIL - te tokli aloitale Moddgomkar (Margao) UNDIR - bhatt khaun poll kortale Navelkar (Navelim) THEMBI - the thembi daikoilole Chinchonkar (Chinchinim) FIRNGIi - mhunn itihasin pacharlole Vellekar (Velim) LANDE - the bion poulole Assonkar (Assolna) MOG KORUNK UXEAR - kopleant mog kortale Canconkar (Canacona) NADGE - te lokak mapan nadtale Eddie Verdes Chinchinim/KSA www.goa-world.com/kantaram www.goa-world.com/konkani/konkani_munneo_konkani_sayings.htm From: G.A.U.M. Feature [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: RE: [Goanet]Menage a Trois / A Piper,Rats. Alfred de Tavares wrote: . each Goan village has a patron-animal? We, Lotlekars are goats; Raikars are tigers, Verna-cars, bulls and so on. Margao is RATS/UNDIR! So, they will be in exodus to their home. About foxes later - I may add: Saligao villagers are known as foxes, to the world ... Can someone give more input on other Goan villages with their patron-animal(s) . for continuing this thread, which may interest others too ? How did this 'animal patron' originated? Was it due to the influence of the 'Govapuri' period? Possibly Senhor Alfred de Tavares, Dotor Jose Colaco, Senhor Cecil Pinto will enlighten us? Almeida Gaspar (better known
[Goanet]Ek Kovita: Bori Vagnnuk
Bori Vagnnuk Samkailea ghorant ravpi tujo xezari Konnank nakollttam peleak adhar dita Tujea ghorant pavun sorllear ek bikari Irlexem izmoll ghalun tum sonvsar gazoita Tujea xezarean, kallukant sanddlelea vattsureak Uzvaddachea bhorea margar haddun sodhla Ponn tum nirddukaechea dolleani poita tujea peleak Orth naslolo lokak dakhounk pirachit, upas dorla Kallzachea ontorskonnant khuxalkai ruzunk Tujea dusman bhavachim vochun mogan zap kor Mhellsanin khenchlelo bhejo nigut urunk Bukhen, tannen tollmolltoleanchem jivit dadoxi kor Dukhachem ojem dusreanchem lohu tum khorchi zalear Tujo khuris khandar gheunk Simanv osle monis melltele Churchure korinastana peleak gorjebhair dukhoilear Davea hatachea chora baxen sansnank fottovtele Lino B. Dourado (Utordd'dekar/Q8) = http://www.goa-world.net/poems http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino __ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]BELIEVE IT OR NOT!
Did you know that there are no public movie theaters in the whole of the KSA except in Aramco camps? Everyones sitting room is his own private home theater. There is also no church here. As such, there is no mass celebration except in Aramco (unofficial). This being the case, everyones living quarters is his own place of worship - without display of religious pictures. The Ash Wednesday was celebrated here on last Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. I attended the ceremony on Wednesday evening. As always, the pastor announced at the end of the mass that he would make the sign of the cross with ash on the top of hand not on the forehead, as is the custom elsewhere in the world. He then humorously said You know why it is so; I dont have time to visit you all in the jail!!! Furthermore, women are not allowed to drive in the Kingdom. However, women can drive in Aramco camps but they have to hand over car to their male partners before they exit Companys main gate! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY)!
Eka burgueacho fuddar sodanch tache avoichem kam (The future destiny of the child is always the work of the mother) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]India Express COLA GATE Hard realities about soft drinks
COLA GATE Hard realities about soft drinks Even with zero pesticides and super-clean water, colas can prove a health menace ANURADHA VASHISHT Much heat was generated after the Centre for Science and Environment (CSE) published its report on finding pesticides in soft drinks bottles. Media stoked the fire. The government report subsequently vindicated the cola giants. But was pesticides in soft drinks ever the issue? CSE has not even scratched the surface of the problem. Pesticide traces have been found in our fruits, our vegetables, our crops, our soils, our water sources, and even in the milk of lactating mothers. What makes it such an important issue? Especially when the consumption of the basic necessities of lifefood and wateris many times more than of colas? And why should soft drinks manufacturers be taken to task, when the culprit is clearly our government, its faulty policies and the lackadaisical approach of bureaucrats? For didnt the pesticide traces come into the bottles through underground water, contaminated by mindless use of chemicals in farming? Even if soft drink majors purify the water before they use it for their products, who will purify the water billions of unsuspecting Indians drink? Yet there is a second issue too. Who cares whether these soft drinks carry pesticides, muck or mercury? Pesticides or no pesticides, these drinks are still lethally corroding the nations health fabric. Studies over the years have shown the huge amount of soda and refined sugar in these drinks hinder calcium and phosphorus absorption, thus lowering their levels in the body. Besides maintaining the strength and hardness of bones and teeth, calcium reacts with sodium and potassium to promote normal action of the heart muscle like a steady and rhythmic beat. It also helps in the clotting of blood, and plays a significant role in many other crucial body functions. Similarly, phosphorus, while maintaining blood neutrality, reacts with other nutrients carbohydrates, proteins and fats and provides heat energy and other necessary material for the bodys proper growth and maintenance. Both calcium and phosphorus are absolutely essential for regulation and coordination of body functions. However, even a heavy amount of calcium supplements in our diet will be useless if we consume carbonated drinks. They will not allow the body to absorb this vital ingredient. Further, carbonated drinks are the single biggest source of refined sugars. Cola is a highly concentrated sugar solution. It leads to increased water excretion, causing diarrhoeic potassium loss. In fact, every soft drink consumer, sooner or later, is a potential diabetic. Over five years ago, the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), a non-profit organisation in the United States, presented 40 scientific studies in a 70-page petition that talked about the detrimental effects of caffeine in soft drinks. A key ingredient in soft drinks, caffeine causes increased excretion of calcium in urine, leading to conditions like decreased bone density, osteoporosis, rickets, menstrual disorders, foetal growth retardation and miscarriages . Caffeine can also cause nervousness, anxiety, irritability, insomnia and rapid heart beat. Its consumption makes children restless and fidgety. They also develop headaches. Several additives used in soft drinks, like yellow dye and natural red colouring cochineal and carmine cause occasional allergic reactions. In the 1970s, the American Family Physician journal placed cola and chocolate among the ten food items that caused the most allergies, and recorded symptoms like headache, migraine, asthma, gastro-intestinal disorders, hay fever and eczema indicate a cola allergy. And then we have obesity, the bane of a modern lifestyle. Studies in the US have linked obesity to high intake of sugar through carbonated drinks. Most important, such drinks have negative nutrition value. They can alter the stomachs pH , which upsets digestion and absorption of nutrients from healthy foods. According to US Department of Agriculture (USDA) surveys, in the US children start drinking soda pop at a remarkably young age. One fifth of one and two year olds consume soft drinks. It is scary to think what soft drinks consumption can do to the organs and health of toddlers and young children. Arent we denying them the right to health either by our ignorance or in our eagerness to ape Western lifestyles? (The author is deputy editor, Life Positive) 10/9/03 Indian Express ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others #
RE: [Goanet]FR. ANTONIOPEREIRA MOURNED IN KUWAIT
STOP SENDING -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of A. Veronica Fernandes Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]FR. ANTONIOPEREIRA MOURNED IN KUWAIT FR. ANTONIOPEREIRA MOURNED IN KUWAIT Fr. Antonio Pereira who died on 25th of this month and interred on next day at Bicholim was mourned in Kuwait yesterday 27th. A condolence meeting was held by Kuwait Konknni Kendr in Kuwait City at 7.30 p.m. which was attended not only by the members of KKK but also by others. During the meeting all the speakers who spoke on the superlative qualities of Fr. Antonio Pereira in the field of Konkani literature showed their sorrow over the death of this great priest. On behalf of KKK, A. Veronica Fernandes welcomed the attendees and requested Gen. Sec. of KKK Luis Cardoso (Guirim Bardez) to conduct the prayers for the soul of Fr. Antonio. Then the president of KKK Mr. Elvino Rodrigues (Navelim Salcette) described the greatness of Fr. Antonio Pereira in the promotion of Konkani cause. Well-known Poet Lino Bab Dourado (Utorda) in his speech highlighted on the contribution of Fr. Antonio Pereira not only in the field of Konkani literature but also otherwise and stressed upon some salient features of Fr. Antonio Pereira's activities. On behalf of Konkani Heritage Kuwait, Mr. Fidelis Fernandes its president showed his closeness with Fr. Antonio Pereira since his youth in hi village Colva where the priest used to come for preaching. Not only he even his late father was close to Fr. Antonio Pereira whose books they have been reading with deep attention. Stage Artiste Querobina Carvalho who many times encountered Fr. Antonio Pereira as a stage artiste showed her regret over the death of this priest and said such a person, such a gigantic literary figure we will never get again. She also said how nicely Fr. Antonio Pereira used to praise her for her stage acting and singing. Luis Cardoso in his short speech described how KKK helped Fr. Antonio Pereira in financing his book Konkani Voparinchem Bhandar. It was in 1985 and KKK was recently formed. Fr. Antonio Pereira wanted money to print his rich book of collection of Konkani proverbs KONKANI VOPARINCHEM BHANDAR. KKK had no funds but all the 10 executive members of KKK joined together and agreed to donate Rs. 10,000/- for the printing of this book. This was the part of the total amount and finally this great book was published and within a short time all the copies were sold. Fr. Antonio Pereira was my personal friend; every time I went on vacation I always made a point to visit him either at Bicholim or Baga or Xaviers Research Centre - Porvorim or at Britto's Mapsa. Though he was ailing yet he was always jovial and even from the sick bed he used to tell me support Konkani cause even though you may have reservation with some people including me. Once he told me our minds may be different but our hearts are same. He always encouraged me to work for the cause of Konkani by telling Konkani is the soul of Goa and without Konkani Goa will not be Goa and without Konkani Goykars will not be Goykars. May the Soul of Fr. Antonio Pereira Rest In Peace and May God give Goa and Konkani more of Fr. Antonio Pereiras not only to serve Goa, Konkani and Church but also to serve humanity without any discrimination. Because of his broadmindedness and great heartedness he was loved more by non Catholics in Bicholim in particular and elsewhere in general. He was the unifying factor between Christians and others and during the funeral mass of his on 26th not only priests and Christians spoke but also Hindus and Muslims. It was rare occasion in Goa for a person to receive such a tribute. And rightly, he deserve such a rich tribute. Once again May His Soul Rest In Peace A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others #
[Goanet]28 FEB 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 28 February 2004 UGDP SLAMS DOOR ON CONG: Closing all doors for further talks with the Congress, the United Goans Democratic Party has kicked-off its poll campaign for the South Goa Lok Sabha seat at a workers meeting held here today, but sought a few-days time to declare its candidate. Party workers attending the meeting, however, gave their stamp of approval for the candidature of former sports minister, Monte Cruz, by thunderous claps. The former sports minister later told newsmen that he is willing to contest on the Two Leaves symbol from South Goa. UGDP leaders maintained that the talks with the Congress failed as the national party was not ready to compromise on the Loutolim seat. (H) MATHANY BREAKS HIS SILENCE... IN FAVOUR: Cortalim MLA, Mathany Saldanha, o broke his silence on his leanings towards the BJP government and other matters. During the previous MGP and Congress governments in the last 27 years, the people only lived in darkness. At least, the present government is doing something for the people, he asserted while speaking at the UGDP workers meeting here. Speaking further, Saldanha said the people of Goa had to fight on several issues to protect their rights in the last 27 years. During those days, the Congress MLAs never bothered to listen to the grievances of the poor like the fishermen and the workers, he charged. He, however, gave a stamp of approval of the Parrikar-led government, saying this government works. (H) CONFIRMED TICKET HOLDERS DENIED KUWAIT-BOUND FLIGHT: A section of passengers on the Kuwait-bound flight were left high and dry on Friday (Feb 27) evening, as some of them could not board the flight, after the aircraft was reportedly full. According to airline sources, the Chennai-Goa-Kuwait flight was nearly full at Chennai itself, leaving only a few seats available to the Goan passengers, who were proceeding to Kuwait. One passenger, Jeffrey D 'Souza of Divar, told Herald that he had a confirmed ticket and was to resume duties in Kuwait on Saturday. However due to overbooking of the flight, I could not board the flight. I can only travel to Kuwait on Monday, complained D`Souza. I am anxious to get back to Kuwait as soon as possible, as I am the main bread winner for my family in Divar, D`Souza added. (H) MARGAO KIDS CARNIVAL RESULTS: Young Members Club, Margao organized a grand 'Kids carnival fiesta' for children in age group 8-14 years, recently. Around 250 children participated in different competitions like mask making competition and computer drawing competition. The winners of the various competition under both the categories have been announced. (H) TOURISM SEMINAR AT CALANGUTE: Tourism 2020, a seminar on tourism was held at Hotel Goan Heritage, Calangute, recently. The seminar which was organised by Lions Club of Calangute was inaugurated by former chief Minister and NCP chief Dr Wilfred de Souza, in the presence of Dr Chandrakant Hiremath, and Vasudev Valawalkar. Dr Nandkumar Kamat, Charles Bonifacio, Alan D'Souza and Auda Viegas were the main speakers. Earlier, Filipe Dias, organising chairman welcomed while Saish Lawande, club president proposed the vote of thanks. (H) GOVT PLEDGES ENOUGH WATER FOR DHARGALIM: Minister for Panchayat, Mr Babu Azgaonkar has reiterated that an amount of Rs 5 crore has been earmarked for extension of water pipelines to provide adequate drinking water in Dhargalim constituency. In this context, he informed that the work of laying of pipeline costing Rs 1.5 crore at Dadachiwadi and Oxelbag is in progress and mentioned that extension of pipeline would be taken up at Mopa, shortly. (H) LAND REVENUE CODE BOOK RELEASED: Chief Minister, Manohar Parrikar has stressed the need for updating the Land Revenue Code at least once every two years. The Chief Minister was speaking at a book releasing function organised by the Goa Institute of Rural Development and Administration at Miramar on February 24. Parrikar released the book titled The Goa Land Revenue Code and Rules written by Mr N D Agrawal.The Chief Minister further said, the personal laws are complicated and added that most government officials need to have sound knowledge about the same. This will go a long way in enlightening all the revenue officers, at the same time this book will also help the general public, he said. Revenue Minister, Mr Pandurang Madkaikar appreciated the efforts initiated by Goa Institute of Rural Development and Administration for updating the law. (H) ASILO'S SEPTIC TANK RAISES STINK: The Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar on February 25 announced, it will take two years to set up a new state-of-the-art hospital at Peddem, Mapusa. But the Asilo Hospital seems to have already gone into premature labour pains. The septic tank of the Out Patient Department section of the Asilo hospital has been overflowing for the last one month raising a stink and causing inconvenience to surrounding residents near the hospital. Apart from having
Re: [Goanet]Re: Special breed
This evening I watched a MTV show. It was very colourful, bharati girls in scanty clothes and besides chappies kissing girls on both sides of the cheek. No hindi spoken only hinglish. Bharat is now westernizing? B. Colaco I FEEL A FEEL A FUNNY FEEL A FUNNY FEEL I FEEL, BUT IF YOU FEEL THE FEEL I FEEL I FEE THE FEEL YOU FEEL Vivek, Now, you are either engaging in child's play or adding fuel to the fire. Or perhaps forcing my words in your mouth. I think you are at your best when you are blessing everybody. It has been a while since you have done that. Why don't you do that now? Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]FR. ANTONIOPEREIRA MOURNED IN KUWAIT
FR. ANTONIOPEREIRA MOURNED IN KUWAIT Fr. Antonio Pereira who died on 25th of this month and interred on next day at Bicholim was mourned in Kuwait yesterday 27th. A condolence meeting was held by Kuwait Konknni Kendr in Kuwait City at 7.30 p.m. which was attended not only by the members of KKK but also by others. During the meeting all the speakers who spoke on the superlative qualities of Fr. Antonio Pereira in the field of Konkani literature showed their sorrow over the death of this great priest. On behalf of KKK, A. Veronica Fernandes welcomed the attendees and requested Gen. Sec. of KKK Luis Cardoso (Guirim Bardez) to conduct the prayers for the soul of Fr. Antonio. Then the president of KKK Mr. Elvino Rodrigues (Navelim Salcette) described the greatness of Fr. Antonio Pereira in the promotion of Konkani cause. Well-known Poet Lino Bab Dourado (Utorda) in his speech highlighted on the contribution of Fr. Antonio Pereira not only in the field of Konkani literature but also otherwise and stressed upon some salient features of Fr. Antonio Pereiras activities. On behalf of Konkani Heritage Kuwait, Mr. Fidelis Fernandes its president showed his closeness with Fr. Antonio Pereira since his youth in hi village Colva where the priest used to come for preaching. Not only he even his late father was close to Fr. Antonio Pereira whose books they have been reading with deep attention. Stage Artiste Querobina Carvalho who many times encountered Fr. Antonio Pereira as a stage artiste showed her regret over the death of this priest and said such a person, such a gigantic literary figure we will never get again. She also said how nicely Fr. Antonio Pereira used to praise her for her stage acting and singing. Luis Cardoso in his short speech described how KKK helped Fr. Antonio Pereira in financing his book Konkani Voparinchem Bhandar. It was in 1985 and KKK was recently formed. Fr. Antonio Pereira wanted money to print his rich book of collection of Konkani proverbs KONKANI VOPARINCHEM BHANDAR. KKK had no funds but all the 10 executive members of KKK joined together and agreed to donate Rs. 10,000/- for the printing of this book. This was the part of the total amount and finally this great book was published and within a short time all the copies were sold. Fr. Antonio Pereira was my personal friend; every time I went on vacation I always made a point to visit him either at Bicholim or Baga or Xaviers Research Centre Porvorim or at Brittos Mapsa. Though he was ailing yet he was always jovial and even from the sick bed he used to tell me support Konkani cause even though you may have reservation with some people including me. Once he told me our minds may be different but our hearts are same. He always encouraged me to work for the cause of Konkani by telling Konkani is the soul of Goa and without Konkani Goa will not be Goa and without Konkani Goykars will not be Goykars. May the Soul of Fr. Antonio Pereira Rest In Peace and May God give Goa and Konkani more of Fr. Antonio Pereiras not only to serve Goa, Konkani and Church but also to serve humanity without any discrimination. Because of his broadmindedness and great heartedness he was loved more by non Catholics in Bicholim in particular and elsewhere in general. He was the unifying factor between Christians and others and during the funeral mass of his on 26th not only priests and Christians spoke but also Hindus and Muslims. It was rare occasion in Goa for a person to receive such a tribute. And rightly, he deserve such a rich tribute. Once again May His Soul Rest In Peace A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Re: Goans in the IAS?
Dear Miguel, From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Vivek, Good question, indeed. If I have not heard of or seen the Pacific Ocean, it does not cease to exist. All that Nagesh needs to do is take the trouble to find out. One cannot keep on blaming the Portuguese colonial rule for everything. I don't seem to undestand what you mean by 'Nagesh needs to do is take the trouble to find out'. I don't think that you have followed this thread in full. Also, I have not blamed the Portuguese colonial rule in anyway. Nikhil Dessai, the ex-Agriculture Officer who is now MD of Sugar Factory, would definitely make it to the IAS if there were coaching facilities in Goa. He tried twice...and almost made it in his second attempt! I don't mean to question anybody's intelligence or achievements, but 'almost an IAS' is not quite the same as an IAS certificate to show for. I know of many Goans who made it to IITs and other famous institutions, without the luxury of formal training and coaching. Sanjit Rodrigues, the Commissioner of CCP ,or Deepak Bandekar, the C.O. of MMC, might have attempted IAS if they had the facilities. Our college libraries can stock the question papers, our ex-IAS officers[not the 'absorbed' version like JC] could motivate potential students while in the FY of college or ,even, in high school. Ashutosh Teli chose Arts and prepared for IAS exams while others worked through B.Sc. That is the way many others make it to IAS from other states. We need this type of 'Career Guidance', not people telling our children what type of computer course is best suited for them. We are talking about a hypothetical situation here where someone could have achieved something, had he/she the resources. Such assumptions are hard to prove. I am pretty sure that the necessary books and papers should be available in Goa. Even when technical books were not available in Goa, when I did my Engineering studies, we used to order them from Union Book Stall in Dadar. It is time we stopped only talking and posting on the net. It is time some of us got together and began to work to make this come true. Post on the net...but do something ,too. Well, we are privileged at having Medical, Engineering, Architecture, Pharmacy, Art, Law colleges, besides so many other educational institutions in Goa. I don't think that we can absorb all those graduating, in to the Goan workforce at all. Wonder which Philantropist would be willing to spare sufficient cash to start an institute for training potential IAS guys. And how many IASs can we get every year, when it is not at all sure that all Goans completing the IAS curriculum will be posted in Goa? Nagesh Bhatcar _ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]The Indian Republic of Canada
Folks, Can any of you Conservatives in Britian/USA/Australia?send some of your surplus politicians to Canada? Our local Conservatives have won appox 10 seats in Parliment in the last 10 years. Now to make matters worse (even more clear?) for the non-conservatives, here is what their leader did: Stephen Harper's office sent greetings to Canadian aboriginal organizations on the occasion of Republic Day. As you partake in cultural festivities and events, which honour your ancestors and celebrate your heritage, I am pleased to pay tribute to the members of the Indian community in Canada the January 26th letter signed by Mr. Harper said. The gaffe prompted the Ontario Federation of Indian Friendship Centers, which got the letter, to compare Mr. Harper to the Italian born explorer. This is 2004, Mr. Harper, not 1492. the last time a man got lost looking for India. Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goa Computers Project - another perspective
I applaud Fred's article on 10 lessons from a Goan classroom. The Goa School Computers Project (GSCP), which started as an ad-hoc effort at its peak had a presence in over a 100 schools in the form of donated hardware. Today it has an active presence in about 20 schools in the form of teacher training, collaborative school projects, etc. Recently it was highlighted by a World Bank report as an international best practice in the use of the low-cost opensource solution. However,without belittling anyone's contribution, I must point out that what made it go from 5-6 schools helped by several individuals to dozens of schools was more an organized Non-Resident Goan funded professional NGO approach, and less of an ad-hoc volunteer driven effort as might be concluded from the article below. I write this to dispel any notions that a quick donation of cash or donated equipment or the occasional visit to a school is all it takes. Since 1999 till 2003, funds for GSCP operations were generously provided by Goa Sudharop (GS) in the US, and office support by the GS manager in Goa, Mario Mascarenhas. The project usually had full-time paid coordinator. Project coordination and oversight were provided on an expense-reimbursable basis by Ashley Delaney in Goa and me in the US. Without a co-ordination mechanism involving a paid staff, volunteers, the department of education and schools, all ad-hoc efforts would have been disjointed and quite frankly, totally inadequate given the scale of our undertaking. The project has now come of age as a locally registered Trust, Knowledge Initiative Trust (KIT). It is now independent of oversight by a US organization, and is seeking avenues to fund itself as well as to build a broad-based coalition as Fred suggests. I urge all individuals and organizations interested in IT in schools to visit the site listed below and contact KIT to co-ordinate their actions. While I have no argument with the govt effort to provide computers to individual students, few schools have more than 10 computers (a PC to student ratio of 1:3), and the government simply does not have the resources to provide thousands of PC's to both schools and individual students AND maintain them AND train teachers to get the most out of them AND provide Internet access. In my opinion, enlightened school management and continued local community financing will be necessary. PTA's simply have to get involved otherwise as Fred pointed out inertia of school managements and an unimaginative syllabus will result in computers continuing to be be used as glorified typewriters. PTA's have to pressure their managements to reach out to organizations like KIT to train their teachers in computers assisted teaching, to open the facilities to communities after school hours to generate revenue to maintian the equipment. If parents don't get involved, their kids will fall even further behind those from the more englightened city schools like Sharda Mandir or Rosary. What is now needed is less ad-hoc-ism, and more professionally guided coordinated action to scale up GSCP's best practices. Sincerely, Daryl Martyris Trustee Knowledge Initiative Trust www.gscp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s. I'd be curious to know how many on this list remember Marlon Menezes' annual GSCP on-line raffles, and if there is any interest in reviving it. Please write back to me if you supported the raffle in the past, and would support it if we had one again. Message: 17 From: Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:35:44 - Subject: [Goanet]Ten lessons from a Goan classroom: FN: Express Computers. Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Headline: Ten lessons from a Goan classroom By Frederick Noronha Source Express Computers, 1 March 2004 at http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20040301/indiacomputes02.shtml ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Wildlife and habitat
Dear Fred, There is always a need to separate chaff from the grain. A lot of self-appointed experts have taken over the news routes and columns in news papers. History, art, culture,language and politics can flow through one 'expert'. Most of these experts are actually 'enthusiats' who are enthusiatic about being famous and in the public eye,if not public consciousness. Herein lies the problem. Half inch tacks become three inch nails, six trees get cloned into a hundred trees; the word 'Porvorim ' evolves from 'parvat'[ I, for one, think it is a miss-pronunciation of the word 'Parvati' by the colonial Portuguese who found it difficult to pronounce 'ti' and made it 'rim'].One school in Alto Porvorim even spells the word as 'Parvari'. Goa Suraj could possibly de-saffronize the word...and the school. None of us may be anywhere close to the truth. The same principle applies to your posting, Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 03:07:03 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Wildlife in Goa... There's a spurt in the spotting of wildlife beyond their places of habitation in Goa. The incidents at Sinquerim and Agaciam are recent ones. Others point out how they are seeing animals and birds they never saw before. A colleague from Madkai (Ponda taluka) says the villagers are coming across peacocks for the first time. This happened after an industrial estate was set up on a local hill, though the connection if any is not quite clear. Would it be accurate to say that the destruction of the habitat has led to wildlife moving into human areas? Wildlife enthusiasts here are taking such a point of view, but the forest officials don't agree. FN PS: Sadly, the foxes which the village I stay in (Saligao) was once famous for, have vanished within my living memory. As schoolkids, we would often cross a fox standing in the fields en route to Parra. On a quiet night, we would hear the foxes howling ... and the elders would frighten us about their presence. My daughter will have to live only with narrations. Comments and other perspectives welcome. The number of peacocks has definitely risen in Goa. I have come across peacocks on the road at Valpoi, Siolim, Ganeshpuri ['Goa Housing Board Colony-Mapusa', if one belongs to the 'standardizing party'] and even on Saligao hill below the Saligao Seminary[which,incidentally is located in Pilerne village] and Porvorim[ no such town or village in Goa...it is spread over the panchayats of Soccoro,Penha da Franca,Salvador do Mundo,Pilerne and Sangolda, depending on where your site is located]. A contributory factor to this is the much maligned Australian acacia [Acacia auriculiformis] plantations under Social Forestry and other projects. It provides wildlife shade and cover...and privacy to multiply. The dumping of edible wastes around industrial estates may be a contributory factor. Hindustan Lever, Nestle and other companies will have such wastes. Waste water will also attract thirsty wild life. Frogs and insects that breed in overflowing soak pits and septic tanks will attract the lower carnivores. You may get foxes at the Pilerne Industrial estate ,coming to buy jewellery from Intergold. Kuch bi ho sakta hai! All this needs studies. I am hardly the right person. Perhaps someone Knowledgeable from the academic world can help. 'Experts' like property brokers, please excuse. Viva Goa. Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Goans in the IAS?
Dear Vivek, Good question, indeed. If I have not heard of or seen the Pacific Ocean, it does not cease to exist. All that Nagesh needs to do is take the trouble to find out. One cannot keep on blaming the Portuguese colonial rule for everything. Nikhil Dessai, the ex-Agriculture Officer who is now MD of Sugar Factory, would definitely make it to the IAS if there were coaching facilities in Goa. He tried twice...and almost made it in his second attempt! Sanjit Rodrigues, the Commissioner of CCP ,or Deepak Bandekar, the C.O. of MMC, might have attempted IAS if they had the facilities. Our college libraries can stock the question papers, our ex-IAS officers[not the 'absorbed' version like JC] could motivate potential students while in the FY of college or ,even, in high school. Ashutosh Teli chose Arts and prepared for IAS exams while others worked through B.Sc. That is the way many others make it to IAS from other states. We need this type of 'Career Guidance', not people telling our children what type of computer course is best suited for them. It is time we stopped only talking and posting on the net. It is time some of us got together and began to work to make this come true. Post on the net...but do something ,too. Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:07:52 + (GMT) From: vivek araujo?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet]Re: Goans in the IAS? Dear Mr. Bhatcar, Wonder if there is a centre in Goa for training Goans in the IAS exams. it is very easy to question as to how many goans tried the IAS exam's?But at the same time one should also question, can we set up a centre in Goa for this exam? Vivek --- Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot is being said about Goans in the IAS. My first question would be to ask as to how many Goans have tried joining the IAS. If we don't try to get into the IAS, how can we build a pool of Goan IAS guys? I think that the likes of JCAlmeida and Vaman Sardessai were promoted to the IAS cadres. The other two Goan IAS that I know of are Kakodkar and Prabhakar Kamat, the ex-Chairman of MPT. Nagesh Bhatcar One may like to add Arvind Bhatikar to the list of ex-IAS. Actually, we need to create a list of potential candidates for entering IAS cadres three years from now and every year there after. Look at the futurestop living in the Past. Viva Goa. Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: Homeschooling and big government
Santosh Helekar wrote: Ariosto is a smart guy. He would pass it even with the left half of his brain tied to his back, as Rush Limbaugh would say, presumably when he is not high on drugs. Yes, Ariosto is quite an intelligent guy, as well as very handsome! :-))) But what about the teachers who failed it or the large percentage of parents who might fail it. Who will teach their kids? If you believe that the teachers and parents are equally intelligent/dumb, then I would say the parents would do a better job at teaching their own children because they have a vested interest in the success of their own children. Viv ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]BSG to felicitate Ph.D. awardees in Botany
Residents of Goa who have been awarded the Ph.D. degree by the Goa University recently will be felicitated by the Botanical Society of Goa at the Annual General Body Meeting to be held on Sunday 29 February,2004, at Mr .Farmer Nursery, off NH-17, [Panaji-Mapusa Road], Guirim,at 11.00 A.M. . BSG members are requested to report by 10.00 A.M. for the AGM and presentation of awards. The Ph.D. in Botany awardees are: Mehtab Jahan Bukhari,Lecturer Govt. College,Quepem.[ former Executive member ,BSG] Maria Araujo Fonseca, St.Xavier's College, Mapusa. [non-member of BSG] Uday Goakar,Principal,Govt. HSS,Quepem.[non-member of BSG] Nazima Begum,Lecturer, Govt. College,Sanquelim. [non-member of BSG] Sharada Waman Khade,[non-member of BSG] The BSG is proud of their achievement and contribution to the better understanding of plants and fungi in Goa. Since all the awardees are employed, they will not be gifted membership of the BSG which is nominally priced at Rs.1000/-[US$20 only] for a lifetime. Special mementos have been prepared for the awardees and the prize winners of the Home Garden Competition by Artspace,Mapusa. Viva Goa. Miguel - Original Message - From: Secretary,BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Goa Home Garden Competition The 9th All Goa Home Garden Competition was conducted by the Botanical Society of Goa. The prize winners are: Landscaped Gardens: 1.Fiel Braganza, Betim 2.Dr.Carmo Gracias, Borda 3.Jyoti Kotnis, Mapusa and Filomena Mendes, Calangute. Beautiful Amateur Gardens: 1.Nicholas Sequeira, Saligao 2.Criena D'Mello, Porvorim 3.Kishori Sinari, Chicalim and Honorato Velho, Benaulim. The prizes will be awarded at 11.00 A.M. on Sunday, 29 February,2004 [the leap year day] A.J.Gomes ,Secretary,BSG; Dr.H.Y.Karapurkar, President,BSG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/22/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Orchid Cultivation in Goa.
Government College of Arts,Science and Commerce, Quepem-Goa, one of the latest members of the Botanical Society of Goa, organized a day-long , State level seminar on Exploring Goa's potential in Agriculture and Horticulture. The Seminar was inaugurated by Prakash Velip, Chairman of Adarsh Krishi Bagayatdar Sahakar Society Ltd and Goa State Co-operative Bank, in the presence of Dr.H.Y.Karapurkar,President of BSG and Dr. B.Arthur Gomes, Principal of the College. Mr. Velip said, I am a farmer , and proud to be one. I have grown in the farming community and worked with my hands. I do not see any reason why an educated person should feel ashamed to work with the soil which feeds him. He spoke of the activities carried out by the Society with the assistance of Central Government and State agencies for the farmers of Goa during the last few years.'Kissan Credit Cards' have been issued to farmers to help them avail of loans, he said. Mr. Roy Antao, a progressive farmer and close friend of the former Agriculture Minister Francisco Sardinha, publicly acknowledged that the current State Government has been responsive to the farmers' needs. The Chief Minister had replied to his telegram about the high rate of interest charged on agricultural loans vis-a-vis housing loans. The rates were brought on par by the Banks shortly thereafter. This experience was shared by others present at the seminar who had emailed, faxed or sent telegrams or letters to the CM. I had the privilege of being the first speaker of the day and a 'moderator ' for the second session in which the star speaker was Mr.Amancio Fernandes, Zonal Agriculture Officer of Canacona and the man behind the success of many self-help groups [SHGs] that are making waves in Goa. Amancio spoke of 'Agri-business opportunities'[ the subject and title of a book edited by him and published by the Agriculture Officers' Association with a chapter on floriculture contributed by me]. I spoke on 'Orchid Cultivation in Goa' and invited those interested for hands-on learning at 'Goa Flora' a 15000 orchid plant unit in Sal with which I was associated at its inauguration on 23 February,2004. It is a prediction made by me on 30 November,2003, at the 'Plant Utsav' come true. Vivek Naik has pumped in Rs.25 lakhs to make that vision a reality. Meanwhile the Orchid training course at St.Xavier's College,Mapusa, is going on. Its co-ordinator[Wendy] was at the Seminar,too.Vivek Naik has offered hands-on training at Goa Flora-Sal to the trainees at SXC,Mapusa. Things could not get better. Viva Goa. Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/22/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Special breed
In a message dated 2/27/2004 3:18:34 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I FEEL A FEEL A FUNNY FEEL A FUNNY FEEL I FEEL, BUT IF YOU FEEL THE FEEL I FEEL I FEE THE FEEL YOU FEEL Vivek, Now, you are either engaging in child's play or adding fuel to the fire. Or perhaps forcing my words in your mouth. I think you are at your best when you are blessing everybody. It has been a while since you have done that. Why don't you do that now? Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Fw: Excessive Billing by Electricity Department
Date: 27/02/2004. To, Shri G.R. Kamkar, Executive Engineer, Div. I Electricity Department, Vidyut Bhavan, Panaji Goa. Sub: Excessive Billing by Electricity Department. Ref: Our complaint dated 30/01/2004. Consumer No. MIR-2A1-400.77--- New connection. Sir, I wish to express my thanks to you for calling me to your office on 20/02/2004. I am indeed happy that you have thoroughly looked into my complaint as referred above (copy enclosed), and issued the following instruction to the billing Head Clerk Mrs. Dias that, a) They should attend to customer's grievances judiciously and respectfully. b) In case of ambiguities the matter should be referred to Assistant Engineer or Executive Engineer for advice, and not to the personnel of computer section. c) No arrears or credits should figure in the bills when the meter is not faulty and the previous bills are paid up to date. d)The billing section should posses a copy of the Electricity Rules and Current Tariff for the customer to see if so desired- This is essential for transparency, consumer education and satisfaction. I feel assured that henceforth the consumers will not face any impediments on billing. Thanking you once again. Yours Faithfully, Sd/- Bernard D'souza. C.C: to: The Chief Engineer, Electricity Department. Panaji Goa Sir, Thank you for prompt action. Shri Digamber Kamat Minister for Power, Secretariat- Panaji Goa. Sir, Thank you for prompt action. Good people are a Blessing to the Society. ** Note: Mr. Bernard D'Souza is the Executive Member of Goa Su-Raj Party ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Goans a special breed?
From: vivek araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Goans a special breed? Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:23:01 + (GMT) Arre, Vivek-bab, Whuin-cho re baba tuum. Vincha'tam kitteak amchea Lot'liant zaite uxau Arujo assat. Mogan, Alfred de Tavares _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Tiatr
Actually, for many of us members of the Goan innerspora (for all you guys who have not been keeping abreast of latest developments thats the opposite of Goan diaspora), the excitement of a tiatr begins when we troop into the auditorium armed to the teeth with plenty of fodder, firmly united in the unshakeable belief that no occasion is complete unless it is heavily embellished with plenty of food and drink. And when the curtains go up, there are further delights in store for us. High melodrama and heart rending emotionalism. We have the tragedy queen ready to sacrifice her all for love, the villain who ultimately gets his comeuppance and the comedian, with that peculiarly Goan brand of impudent sauciness. The ditties that are composed with such speed and promptness to cover current situations have the audience absolutely identifying with them whether they are lamentations on the changing face of Goa and Goans or tirades on the shenanigans of politicians. And of course, no tiatr would be complete without lashings of the romance that is like oxygen to our Goan lads and lasses (Incidentally, anyone needing advice may consult our expert on the subject, Cecil Pinto, with his proven expertise in foolproof styles and techniques of wooing and winning). ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Prejudice and the habitual dissemination of UnadulteratedFalsehood
Gee, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to post or take part in Goanet discussions, thanks for pointing that out, Brian. I'll be sure to keep that in mind! Do you want to inform Fred Noronha or should I?? ;-)) VC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to intrude on this private tete-a-tete which seems to allude the general Goanet audience and say: That the moderator Dame Viviana is abusing her access to the Goanet for personal conversations, much like the many Goa Government officials who abuse the official machinery for their personal use ... well it all seems like part of the Goan culture... and who are the exceptions that complain about Corruption in Goa ? Cheerio ! -- Brian Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JC - Arre Baba - tum keso aha? Ah, The Washington Post, that bastion of truth telling. You have web sites/sources which list names, I have web sites which state there were no HCPs on the Task Force. We can go on and on ad nauseum. However, I'm still asking you a question, which you have not answered plainly enough for me to understand, hanv bondo, remember? Are you saying I'm mis-/uninformed or are you saying I'm a liar? VC __ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Goans a special breed?
From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having been born and brought up in Nairobi, Kenya I was made to feel we were special. === Folks, Gabe is so right regarding the East African context in the mid 20th century but do the concepts have universal validity today? I was brought up in Mombasa, Kenya and my own experience was not much different from Gabe's. I went to a Goan School, relaxed at the Goan Institute and went to the Catholic Church which had a predominantly Goan congregation. Life revolved around the three. The reason we excelled in sports was because we had excellent facilities. At the Goan School, English was the medium of instruction and we specialised in English history and geography. The Principal introduced fines if any pupil was caught talking Konkani whilst on school premises. In most other respects, the Principal was excellent and incidentally went to Goa after retirement - Parrikar, Goa's CM, remembers him fondly as his Maths teacher! I submit that it was largely religious teaching that was responsible for brainwashing us to believe we were a special breed. We were also conditioned to accept white supremacy whist believing that we were a breed apart from the blacks and the other Asians. When I then went to St Xavier's College, Mumbai, it came as quite a shock to the system to realize that Indians who were heathens, did not drink alcohol or eat meat or waltz and spoke a funny language were able to speak English more fluently than me and excelled academically, socially, intellectually and even spiritually! I lived at the College hostel and benefitted enormously by friendship with them. So perhaps we ought to sympathise with the ilk of Vivek who are still cloistered in the East Africa context. Pity is all that he deserves! The key question is how do we react in the Western environment. If we believe in Goan superiority to the other Asians it means we accept our inferiority to the whites. How do we react to the discrimination and racial attacks? BTW. News has just come in that Denis Lobo, (aged 53, ex-Nairobi), has been the victim of repeated racial attacks in the UK, Hillingdon Times of 27 Feb 2004 has a 517 words article about it. I have the full text and have just spoken to him. However the website http://www.hillingdontimes.co.uk/ is currently down and I am unable to give you the url. Cheers Eddie Fernandes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Goans a special breed?
Gabe, I think that the word breed is really inappropriate- especially in terms of modern usage of the term. It would make some people bristle with rage or simply be dismissive! Putting it kindly, I think I feel somewhat insulted and demeaned if I am categorised as belonging to a breed of any kind- and especially Goan as there is much that is Christian Goan which is pretty awful eg their powerful deeply underlying casteist/segregationist instincts which are totally indefensible intellectually or morally. I would have no problem if you said the Goans in East Africa proved to be talented, highly successful in many areas (excepting perhaps business) and were generally well thought of for their sagacity. Bear in mind that their adoption of the English language, by largely discarding their Konkani mothertongue gave them an initial scholastic edge over other Indian communities too. But to praise the Goan schools which avoided Konkani like the plague, does make those schools, which you seem to praise, seriously wanting in my view. Re Serafino Antao, who was in school with me in Mombasa, and definitely a late and unexpected discovery in athletics, where I also trained/competed with him, he emerged as being supremely talented in sprinting. To say that he was a special breed is to be derogatory of his very special sprinting talent. Above all, it is important to note that humans cannot be categorised in terms of breeds or races in contemporary terms. As to the other community groups you mentioned, they were attracted to varied skills and 'callings' just as the Goans were, say to the priesthood and the nunery and especially toWestern music and to sport. If the Goans had many carpeners as you say, the Sikhs had even more and they were excellent construction workers too. To say however, that community groups considered themselves as special, was, to me, petty and narrow minded, but perhaps understandable in the the early years of the Colony -until such minds were broadened by education and experience. All in good spirits, Cornel - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: [Goanet]Goans a special breed? Are Goans a special breed? Having been born and brought up in Nairobi, Kenya I was made to feel we were special. We had our own segregated Clubs, Goans ran the Administration services in Government, Railways and Harbours, P.W.D. and so forth. Goans were the best tailors by a mile - all the top class tailors in Nairobi were Goans. Along with the Sikhs ( who also considered themselves to be special) Goans were also wonderful carpenters - most hailed from Benaulim. We had a Goan school and were predominant in the Catholic Parochial and St. Teresa's schools (Boys and Girls). We excelled in sports and Seraphino Antao is a testament to our being a special breed, He was a gold medallist in the Commonwealth games. At one time the Kenya hockey team boasted 8 or 9 Goans and only 4 Sikhs. I guess the Gujarat's also considered themselves special, their only interest in life was to make money - this is probably why they had a rough time in Uganda, warranted or not. The Sikhs on the other hand were good at working on machines, the Muslim Pakistanis ran assorted businesses including many butcher shops. So quite simply everyone thought they were a special breed in Kenya, this was so even amongst the local natives - the Kikuyu tribe considered themselves to be the inheritors of the land. Cheers, Gibe Menezes. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Prejudice and the habitual dissemination of UnadulteratedFalsehood
I'd like to intrude on this private tete-a-tete which seems to allude the general Goanet audience and say: That the moderator Dame Viviana is abusing her access to the Goanet for personal conversations, much like the many Goa Government officials who abuse the official machinery for their personal use ... well it all seems like part of the Goan culture... and who are the exceptions that complain about Corruption in Goa ? Cheerio ! -- Brian Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JC - Arre Baba - tum keso aha? Ah, The Washington Post, that bastion of truth telling. You have web sites/sources which list names, I have web sites which state there were no HCPs on the Task Force. We can go on and on ad nauseum. However, I'm still asking you a question, which you have not answered plainly enough for me to understand, hanv bondo, remember? Are you saying I'm mis-/uninformed or are you saying I'm a liar? VC __ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Prejudice and the habitual dissemination of Unadulterated Bondollam
Viviana: Ah, The Washington Post, that bastion of truth telling. You have web sites/sources which list names, I have web sites which state there were no HCPs on the Task Force. We can go on and on ad nauseum. Right! --- Viviana: However, I'm still asking you a question, which you have not answered plainly enough for me to understand, hanv bondo, remember? Did not know that. Also thought bondo is Male! WOuld you like to consider the word bondem ? --- Viviana: Are you saying I'm mis-/uninformed or are you saying I'm a liar? I believe that you know the answer to that question. If you don't, please ask around. Ite Missa Est! jose __ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Goans a special breed?
Sorry you have not yet felt that Goenkars are special in their own way. You need not explain about each and every community which if you read comes back to my opinion, and that is what 'am stressing my point again, everyone and everycommunity is free to feel special , i am a goenkar and always believed and believe that we are special. On Gujratis having had a rough time in Uganda,(during the exodus everyone had a rough time including the Goans , who left their properties behind,) kindly wake up and see where the Gujrati's are today, let's talk of the present , past is history of what happened , why , how , which, etc. questions can be left aside and we move. You must read a lot Gabe and advise you to read the Times of India today's edition , let me assist you, kindly log on to www.timesofindia.com , about indians joining the list of richness with Bill gates. I can go on and on about Gujratis in Uganda, but you will never be convinced about their standing in Uganda, if time persist make a trip and see how they have changed the face of Uganda. Let's talk what's on the ground, do not write unrealistic issues like the Gujratis in Uganda had a rough time etcI --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are Goans a special breed? Having been born and brought up in Nairobi, Kenya I was made to feel we were special. We had our own segregated Clubs, Goans ran the Administration services in Government, Railways and Harbours, P.W.D. and so forth. Goans were the best tailors by a mile - all the top class tailors in Nairobi were Goans. Along with the Sikhs ( who also considered themselves to be special) Goans were also wonderful carpenters - most hailed from Benaulim. We had a Goan school and were predominant in the Catholic Parochial and St. Teresa's schools (Boys and Girls). We excelled in sports and Seraphino Antao is a testament to our being a special breed, He was a gold medallist in the Commonwealth games. At one time the Kenya hockey team boasted 8 or 9 Goans and only 4 Sikhs. I guess the Gujarat's also considered themselves special, their only interest in life was to make money - this is probably why they had a rough time in Uganda, warranted or not. The Sikhs on the other hand were good at working on machines, the Muslim Pakistanis ran assorted businesses including many butcher shops. So quite simply everyone thought they were a special breed in Kenya, this was so even amongst the local natives - the Kikuyu tribe considered themselves to be the inheritors of the land. Cheers, Gibe Menezes. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Scene Heard - by Gaspar Almeida / Timmaya, Vasco da Gama and Mhoji Konkani Bhas?
Some time back, our good friend Bosco, based in Canada curiously remarked I liked your 'Scene Heard' column, why did you discontinue. Bosco, thanks for your interest. Here it is. __ Scene Heard - by Gaspar Almeida / Timmaya, Vasco da Gama and Mhoji Konkani Bhas? __ Small men too can make history By Manohar Malgonkar / The Sunday Tribune THE history of the world is but the biography of its great men. So wrote Thomas Carlyle, and it is true that that is how much of history gets written: in the form of life stories of kings and conquerors. The contribution of the smaller characters is seldom given due weight, and they themselves are sidelined or relegated to the footnotes. But where would Carlyles great men be without their underlings, the little men who do the real work? They not only provide the spice of history but, once in a while do something which changes the course of history itself. The classic case is that of a man called Timmaya, who lived in a small town called Honnawar, about midway between Panjim and Mangalore, on our west coast, in the early 16th century. It is this man who, in pursuance of his personal aims and at tremendous personal risk, virtually engineered the takeover of Goa by the Portuguese. What he did shook history. He opened up the subcontinent for the frenzied empire-building of European nations as well as of bandit trading enterprises ; even more, he opened up vast new areas for the equally frenzied priestly orders of Christianity to make new converts. And yet how many people so much as know his name? Timmaya. Timmaya, who? Thats just it. History has treated this man so dismissively that we dont even know his full name, even though in all probability he did have one, for he was a man of considerable local consequence: a son of the Raja of Honnawar, engaged in high-risk enterprises such as coastal trading which includes piracy. All in all, a well-known character, a wheeler-dealer, a highroller. Late in the year 1502 Timmaya was on one of his ships near his home port, Honnawar, just at the time when a wall-armed squadron of Portuguese ships, commanded by Portugals legendary sea-captain Vasco da Gama, happened to be passing. Timmayas ship was fired upon and sunk, and as he was swimming for life, a lifeline was thrown to him. Timmaya managed to catch hold of it and was hauled up on board for questioning. There were interpreters on board who could somehow make sense of whatever the Portuguese needed to know and the answers given in the local language, Konkani. But Timmaya was quick-witted and resourceful. Despite the multiple linguistic filters, he seems to have convinced da Gama that he, Timmaya, was a sailor who knew this part of the coast throughly and that he had close contacts with influential people in the towns along the coast. The upshot was that da Gama went there and then appointed him as an informer and a spy. And here is the irony. We dont know if Timmaya ever served the Portuguese as a spy or in any other capacity. But, as we shall see it was Timmaya who made use of the Portoguese in a plan he had devised. To drive out the Bijapur Sultans officials and army from the islands of Goa. The islands of Tiswadi, Chorao, Dewar and Juve had been under the rule of one or the other Sultanate for the past seventy years, and their people, subjected to religious oppression and severities, would have looked upon almost anyone who set them free from that rule as a saviour a liberator. And on his own, Timmaya had decided to offer that role to the Portuguese. Of course it is almost certain that he had some personal scores, too, to settle: as a coastal trader who also indulged in piracy, he must have been a marked man, and his ships subjected to rigorous inspections. He would show them. His chance came when he heard that a Portuguese armada had arrived and lay at anchor in the cove of the Anjadiv island, facing Karwar. Timmaya sailed out to meet its commander and talk him into taking over the Goa islands. Which shows that Timmaya was a bold man, even rash. For this particular Portuguese commander had made something of a name for himself, for utter ruthlessness and cruelty. Afonso de Albuquerque, he who made a boast of putting the entire population of a township to the sword, and of burning another down, from top to bottom. He was called Alfonso The Terribil. But what was the Terribil doing, in Ajnadiv? in 1510? He had left Lisbon nearly two years earlier, at the head of an armada of 23 ships carrying 1500 fighting men. His king, Dom Manoel had given him his task, to take over three Arab strongholds along the sea route to India: The island of socotra at the mouth of the Red Sea, and Ormuz and Kurhat further east. Albuquerque had attacked all three places several times, but while he had inflicted much damage and terrorised the populations, he had not succeeded in dislodging the Arabs from even one of them.Meanwhile, he himself
[Goanet]OVERDEVELOPMENT OF PANAJI - By: Srinivas Kamat
There is a smaller emotive issue could be the tendency to concentrate the development efforts in Panaji, at the cost of developing other parts of Goa. Wherever you see the talk veers around to development of Goa or the projects like the IFFI come up, they are all diverted to Panaji. It is not enough to develop the capital alone, in fact people should understand Panaji is being developed at the cost of Goa. The amounts earmarked for the development of Panaji can be analysed to show up this fact. In a broader perspective, whenever there is talk of development of Goa, it centres around the 3 major towns of Panaji, Margao Vasco and may be Mapusa but there is very little effort to develop other areas and provide facilities in these other areas. Compared to other States where there is dramatic polarization between the way of life in urban and rural areas, Goa has a unique and a common way of life throughout the State and you cannot really differentiate between a rural and an urban area here. Therefore development should be supportive of this social format and not create and accentuate a divide between the towns and the villages of Goa which is the intention of developing the towns at the cost of other regions of Goa. Doing this will result in irreparable harm to the fabric of social life in Goa and bring in its wake the difficulties that most metropolitan areas in the country face with massive migration of people to the city centres putting pressure on services like housing, water, sanitation and transportation which in its turn will set off a chain of problems which may not be easy to resolve. Panaji on its own will also start showing signs of 'over-development'. You will therefore find that every now and then you have to break down something and re-build it anew since the compulsions will then be not to build new facilities and infra-structure but to utilize budgets before they lapse. An example of this would be while breaking down the old Panaji Market and building a new complex is desirable, breaking down the old GMC Complex building or a part of it which is not very old and in reasonable good condition to accommodate a new Multiplex for the IFFI is quite unnecessary. The old GMC Building just about 60 years old, as is understood, is still heritage and need not be razed to the ground to accommodate another gilt-edged aluminium and glass monstrosity. More such examples will be there or can be found.There is a long term cost to all this which the residents of Panaji have to look out for and that is a rise in levies and taxes like property/house tax to support all this Govt. infrastructure. There is also tendency on the part of the present Govt. to go seeking projects which are not really necessary for Goa. The IFFI is one such. Goa does not have very much film loving public. The staple diet for entertainment here is the theater/tiatr and music. Not very many movies are made in Goa. You do not have very many good quality theaters to show cinema and in fact is probably the only place in India where you get tickets for Hindi English blockbusters in the first week quite easily. Then there is the matter of prudery where the IFFI in Goa and the Cannes Film Festival was talked of in the same breath. So with the IFFI not quite fitting the cultural mores of the place or Goa not having the infrastructure to hold it where was the need to accept the IFFI. A clear NO would have made good sense. Even by extended logic if you could draw a connection with the IFFI and tourism and hoping that it would really take off in the future and bring in hordes of foreign tourists, it would have made better sense to have it located at the beachside anywhere in Goa. Build a huge convention centre with mini-theaters or multiplexes and isolate it so that you could have truly a Cannes-style IFFI. The convention centre at other times could fit into Goa's plan of tourism to be host for international conventions/exhibitions or meetings and the theaters could show foreign movies to foreign tourists or to the limited number of local film buffs. Panaji could thus be spared from the hurried ravages of construction and could develop at a much more leisurely pace allowing for better planning and looking at the necessities of construction to retain the identity of the place. The negative effects of hurried construction and its impact on the environment can be seen with the IFFI link and the 4 lane road from the Secretariat up to Dona Paula being tenuous but in the hurry to get the IFFI up and running in time and for the sake of the road the stately trees which form the avenue from Campal to Miramar will be sacrificed. This is needed to be stopped at any cost and the trees which is our green heritage should be protected. If there had been time then there would have been an active and healthy debate on the matter and a way found to have both the trees and the road. Building roads and constructing buildings seems to be the present
[Goanet]Ten lessons from a Goan classroom: FN: Express Computers.
Headline: Ten lessons from a Goan classroom By Frederick Noronha Source Express Computers, 1 March 2004 at http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20040301/indiacomputes02.shtml Full text: Frederick Noronha takes a close look at the computers-in-school project in Goa. It sounds easy. But in reality this is as difficult a task as they come. Some of us, qualified in the subject or just sharing in the enthusiasm, have been dreaming about it for the past few years. But real-life dreams take time to sprout wings. There was a time when Goa schools didn't have computer labs, the government had no plans for giving PCs to students, and there were still doubts whether IT had any role to play in education. Much water has flowed down the Mandovi since then. The computers-in-school project started more or less simultaneously in some fertile imaginations sometime in the mid-nineties. It got its impetus from global expat Goan networks in cyberspace. Then more people got involved in the dream. British tourist Dave Futers and teacher Jude Miranda went about supporting SFX Girls at Mapusa. Emmanuel D'Silva of the World Bank helped the Bal Bharati in Ribandar and worked on a sponsored study to understand the issues involved. Alumni of St Britto's managed to get a lone computer for that school. Ashley Delaney, Tom Fernandes of Germany, Anit Saxena, Sangeeta Naik, Shruti Parathasarthy and several others worked or volunteered on the project. In Chorao, Alwyn and Lisa Dias-Noronha took up the initiative. Some educationists like Antonetta Noronha did it their own way. (The Noronhas mentioned are no relatives of this writer.) On a parallel track, groups like Lok Chetna and schools like Sharada Mandir, Red Rosary, and Lourdes Convent propelled their own initiatives. Recently, those behind the project found that many others were already doing interesting work, like the islanders at Divar, or had similar plans, like a handful of parents at the Kendriya Vidyalaya in Verem. So after all these years, what are the lessons learnt? Lesson One: Successful models are needed Most educationists are yet to find out exactly what a computer can do in their institutions. Till they do that, there are going to be all kind of hurdles, problems and difficulties in the way. Journalists have gone through a similar process. Till recently, few of them understood how computers could help their work. Today, when they realise the power of e-mail (for sending stories, or even conducting long-distance interviews), the Net (for researching subjects), digital cameras (to reduce the cost of illustrating their photographs), mailing lists (to network the profession and discuss issues of interest) and other such tools, they take computers very seriously. You don't have to beg and plead with a journalist any more to convince him/her why (s)he needs computers. But in schools we are yet to touch this point. One expert believes that to start the process school principals need to discover the utility of a PC in their own work - it would then drastically change their views on the potential of this tool. As of now, most schools appear reluctant to get the most out of their PCs. Probably many don't understand the computer yet. Besides, there are limited tools of a sharable nature that allow us to unleash the power of computing in schools. The few good tools that are there cost a bomb. Free software largely lies undiscovered. Lesson Two: Lethargy is a major killer Fighting lethargy is a major energy-sapper. Like in other fields in Goa, innovation in computing also calls for the investment of repeated attempts. Schools, like many other institutions in our society, face the risk of becoming bureaucratic, with little scope for innovation. This happens despite the best of intentions on the part of educationists. Pressures of doing well in exams, completing the syllabus, and just keeping the huge machine working all add up to make innovation and experimentation difficult. We need to accept this reality and find work-arounds. Lesson Three: Hardware is not all Today, Goa is at a stage where increasingly hardware is not the main issue any more. Computers are reaching the school; the big question is: How effectively are they being used? Even if rural schools still have only a handful of computers for a few hundred children, the situation is fast changing. Not long ago, volunteers like expat Daryl Martyris of the US had to struggle to bring in 400 once-used computers by container. Now the government itself is promising PCs to students for a few hundred rupees. Even if these won't reach the school- and we could debate whether XI standard students could make optimum use of computers- the fact remains that hardware is proliferating. We therefore need to look to a situation two years down the line and decide what would be the most important tasks at that point of time. Lesson Four: Volunteers have a role Some of those involved in the Goa School Computers Project - a loose
[Goanet]Communidade land for disabled persons
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- -- Communidade land for disabled persons -- The Revenue Department has taken a decision to allot the plots of communidade to those persons who are having at least 50 per cent physical disability, without auction, for construction of houses. A notification to this effect has been issued by the under secretary (Revenue) on behalf of the government. It says that the disabled persons in the state will have to apply to the Governor through the concerned communidade for allotment of plots. Applications thereafter shall be routed through the administrator of communidade and Collector and then to the Governor for final allotment. The decision is a welfare measure taken by the government for the purpose of easing out the difficulties faced by the handicapped and disabled persons, a press note from the Revenue Department says. The facility was earlier available to the public charitable trust, housing schemes for economically weaker sections, small scale industrial purposes, government departments or local bodies, co-operative housing societies of landless persons, government servants and/or employees of the communidades, landless jonoeiros and freedom fighters. -- The Navhind Times 26/2/04 page 3 -- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Viviana Vs Jose!
Viviana Coelho asks JC: VC 1: But, tell me please, are you calling me mis- or uninformed, or just a plain liar? There is a big difference, isn't there? JC response 1: Aago Viviana Bai, The following from my previous post is self explanatory JC quoting an OFFICIAL NIH site asked: What does Viviana mean by WITHOUT the participation of ONE SINGLE DOCTOR ? MY take: I assume from the above even though it is not stated categorically that JC has responded by implying that VC did not lie but was simply Miss-informed. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goans a special breed?
Are Goans a special breed? Having been born and brought up in Nairobi, Kenya I was made to feel we were special. We had our own segregated Clubs, Goans ran the Administration services in Government, Railways and Harbours, P.W.D. and so forth. Goans were the best tailors by a mile - all the top class tailors in Nairobi were Goans. Along with the Sikhs ( who also considered themselves to be special) Goans were also wonderful carpenters - most hailed from Benaulim. We had a Goan school and were predominant in the Catholic Parochial and St. Teresa's schools (Boys and Girls). We excelled in sports and Seraphino Antao is a testament to our being a special breed, He was a gold medallist in the Commonwealth games. At one time the Kenya hockey team boasted 8 or 9 Goans and only 4 Sikhs. I guess the Gujarat's also considered themselves special, their only interest in life was to make money - this is probably why they had a rough time in Uganda, warranted or not. The Sikhs on the other hand were good at working on machines, the Muslim Pakistanis ran assorted businesses including many butcher shops. So quite simply everyone thought they were a special breed in Kenya, this was so even amongst the local natives - the Kikuyu tribe considered themselves to be the inheritors of the land. Cheers, Gibe Menezes. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]8th National Football League: Ten-man Dempo hold Mahindra
Ten-man Dempo hold Mahindra February 26, 2004 22:16 IST A late goal by R C Prakash helped a ten-men Dempo rally and hold Mahindra United to a 2-2 draw in an 8th National Football League match at the Nehru stadium at Margao, Goa, on Thursday. Dempo, who beat Mahindra in the first leg, dictated terms in the first half and took the lead in the 44th minute when a fine move from the right saw defender Sameer Naik send a low cross to Clifford Miranda, who guided the ball into the net. Dempo suffered a jolt in the first half injury time when defender Bolaji Majekodunni got marching orders from referee A Arjunan for a hard tackle on Jinto Jose. Bolaji unintentionally hit Jinto on the face while going for an aerial ball after Jinto stooped low to retrieve it. Mahindra utilised the one man advantage and pressed more men upfront after the break, bringing in Felix Aboagye and Steven Dias in place of Jules Dias and Jinto Jose. Pressing hard to find the equaliser, the Mumbai team succeeded in the 68th minute when lanky Abhishek Yadav headed home a fine cross. Ten minutes later, Yadav gave Mahindras the lead as they camped in the rival half. He shot home from close after a fine move between Raphael and Venkatesh. But Dempo did not lose heart as they made swift counter moves and restored parity four minutes from end when Prakash vollyed home with a sliding kick to beat 'keeper Naseem Akhtar all ends up off a cross from substitute Alex Ambrose. Dempo remain on top of the table with 23 points from 12 matches while Mahindra have 20 points from as many matches. Dempo made their intentions clear from the start as they made inroads into the rival half with astute passes but fell apart in the final passes as they failed to get past the last rival wall who caught them in the off-side trap often. Mahindra, who played a waiting game, could have taken the lead midway into the first half when Abhishek Yadav set Venkatesh free inside the box with a long lob but his header hit the bar and off the rebound Raphael shot over. Dempo kept up the pressure and came close to scoring twice but Sunday Seah failed to find the target. Sameer Naik, who overlapped often on the right, came up with a fine move when he set Clifford Miranda with a low cross from the right and he made no mistake in finding the net with a diving header. But the change of ends saw Mahindra putting the pressure on their rivals who were reduced to ten men at the end of the first half. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Prejudice and the habitual dissemination of Unadulterated Falsehood
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Viviana wrote: However, I'm still asking you a question, which you have not answered plainly enough for me to understand, hanv bondo, remember? Are you saying I'm mis-/uninformed or are you saying I'm a liar? Of course anyone who doesn't see eye to eye with the perspective of the Right Honourable JC is simply a liar! Don't you know that, Viv? FN ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Jazz from India!
If you'll guys want to do something to promote the music industry in Goa, consider supporting small recording ventures like these. I've known Orlando for some time now, and can't help marvelling at the manner in which he struggles with his recording studio out of a small flat (while running a home with four small kids) at the Four Pillars locality of one end of Panjim. That they've decided to sell this CD at Rs 100 or US$2.50 augurs well for attempts in popularising music from Goa among wider audiences. All the best Orlando, AV, Colin and Jazzy Joe. FN On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Angela D'Souza wrote: has taken the initiative to record Jazzy Joe and launch India's first straightahead jazz album. Co-produced by Orlando Fernandes and Colin D'Cruz, this album features some of the most popular jazz standards laced with flavours of Goa! Over seventy years of Jazzy Joe is finally recorded with strong support from virtuosos in their own right, George Fernandez on piano, Colin D'Cruz on bass and Lester Godinho on drums. For more info logon to http://www.angelav.com CD priced at us$ 2.50 only! worldwide distribution!! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]GOA ROAD WATCH: By 2007 Assembly Election no roads left to be completed,say CM
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- -- Mandovi to get new four-lane bridge -- The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar said that a new four-lane bridge costing around Rs 60 crore would be constructed across river Mandovi, parallel to the two existing bridges. The new bridge, which would be situated a kilometre away from the existing bridges, forms a part of the four-lane project undertaken for National Highway-17, and will cross at Ribandar Patto, he added, pointing out that the alignment of the NH-17 has been slightly altered for the purpose. He also said that the existing bridges on the river Mandovi are in good condition, but need minor repairs. Addressing reporters who accompanied him to the site of the Aldona-Corjuvem cable-stayed bridge across river Mapusa, Mr Parrikar said that the ambitious cable-stayed bridge project which would reduce the distance between Panaji and Bicholim by 10 to 12 km, is the first of its kind with the asymmetric span. The builders of the bridge have been assured of the bonus for early completion of the project, while there are also penalties for its delay, he said. The project is expected to be completed by June, later this year. The Chief Minister also announced that a new four-lane bridge would be constructed at Pale-Usgao, by using deck of the existing old bridge. He further added that around seven small bridges being constructed in different parts of the state, including those at Pirna-Vazri, Rivona, Satrem, Rawanfond, etc, would be completed by December 2004. When I approach the voters in 2007, during the assembly election, there would be no roads or bridges left to be completed in the state, he said, pointing out that all the basic infrastructure of the state would be ready by then. The project of Aldona-Corjuvem bridge stretches up to 235 metre length, including the roads on both the sides, while the actual bridge with 195 metre length will be supported by 12 cables on either sides, each having 6 to 8 inch thickness. The work of fabrication of plate girder and that of the approach road for the project, which is 5 months ahead of its schedule, is in progress. The width of the road on the bridge will be 12 metre, including 1.5 metre footpath on both its sides. The Chief Minister also informed that a tourist spot would be developed in the vicinity of the bridge to attract tourists. The project awarded to M/s Afcons Infrastructure Ltd, Mumbai, under the supervision of the project management consultants, M/s S N Bhobe and Associates Pvt Ltd, is handled by the Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation (GSIDC). The engineer of the GSIDC, Mr Ramesh Mandrekar and the adviser, Mr Atul Bhobe also accompanied on the tour. The Chief Minister also showed the site for a movable bridge to be constructed between Corjuvem and Poira, at an estimated cost of Rs 4.25 crore. After the completion of Corjuvem-Poira bridge, nearly 30 per cent of the Panaji-Bicholim traffic is expected to be diverted via this route, he remarked. Later, the Chief Minister led the reporters to Corjuvem village, wherein a road is being constructed through a playground. It may be recalled that the Aldona MLA, Mr Dayanand Narvekar had opposed the decision, during the recently concluded assembly session. Mr Parrikar said that the road, in no way, would affect the playground and also issued orders to redo the playground, for the villagers. - - === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Special breed
In a message dated 2/27/2004 1:04:38 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: picking on a word like breed and ignoring the main issue is child's play. Vivek, let me tell you. Picking the main issue out of your posts is no child's play. Now, do you take that as a compliment? I hope you don't, but I have a feeling you might. Cheers, Santosh P.S. By the way, I didn't mean to call you a poodle or a pooch or a pug. I think we have a problem understanding each other's English. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]GOA'S MINISTERS HAVE SOUND MONOPOLY
The enforcement of the Madhya Pradesh Sound Act in Goa has become farcical. Arrange a function, have a Minister if not the CM as your chief guest and you can play music till dawn. However, when the sound system is operational it would be a good idea to arrest the Minister for being a guest in his official capacity witnessing and patronising amplified music at late hours, against the law. Enforcement of the Sound Act should be uniform and there should never be a pick and choose of violators. On January 20th, this year Ribandar had a centenary celebrations village dance which the police did not hesitate to abruptly stop once we had crossed the permissible hour. Perhaps if we had asked the Minister who was our Chief Guest to stay on till the end of the show, we might have been able to dance on. On a different note, so much is being said about the Uttar Pradesh leader Mr. D.P Yadav who has been charged with extortion and murder and for having been welcomed into the BJP only to be flushed out a couple of days later. A Minister in the Goa Government who was recently admitted into the BJP has also a whole pile of cases of extortion against him. So much for the party with a difference that the BJP claims to be. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Special breed
Uganda's economy has grown and is still growing and will grow and Gabe you must make a trip to witness it. As regards the brand of T.V no time to make a comment,on my behalf why don't you and Mr. Nair settle down to something better for the weekend? Great weekend Vivek --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote: Special breed (Vivek: We goans are special in our own way . Neighbours envy owner's pride.) You watch a lot of TV, don't you, Vivek? And what brand is your TV? Onida, obviously! -- Your envious neighbour, RKN Mr. Nair, Vivek is in Uganda, Onida is made in India. Vivek has a 46 inch plasma screen made by LG, in South East Asia (South Korea) ( you are now entitled to be envious) At one time the economy of Uganda was bigger than that of South Korea... that was not that many years ago! Cheers, Gabe Menezes ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
