date:20050804

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Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 04:46:38 +0530
Tracking the trippers from Gaza to Goa
By TALYA HALKIN

For documentary filmmaker Yoav Shamir, the distance between the sand
dunes of Gaza and the beaches of Goa is not as great as it seems.

Checkpoint, an award-winning documentary that Shamir completed in 2004,
captured the day-to-day reality of interactions between Israeli soldiers
and Palestinians at IDF checkpoints, where Shamir shot the film between
2001 and 2003.

His new documentary, whose working title is Flipping Out is, in a sense,
a sequel to Checkpoint.

Its protagonists are a small group of young Israeli men who, following
their military service, set off for the Far East.

For the young people whom Shamir will be following in Flipping Out,
however, what has become an almost obligatory coming-of-age ritual in
Israeli society turns into a personal nightmare when their journey to
India is cut short by a bad trip following the ingestion of
hallucinogenic drugs.

The film will follow, in real time, two or three guys who experience a
psychotic breakdown and lose the ability to distinguish between reality
and unreality, Shamir told The Jerusalem Post.
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Some victims of such breakdowns are traced by their families after they
lose contact. In other cases, the families are alerted by their
children's traveling companions. In some instances, a professional
rescuer is involved in tracking them down or extricating them from
Indian psychiatric hospitals or prisons, where they may have been
treated with narcotics.

The film will then continue to document the lives of these young people
after they are brought back to Israel, while they are being treated in a
special rehabilitation center for people suffering from similar
symptoms.

It's a center that was created especially for young people who had
psychotic experiences following drug use while traveling abroad, Shamir
said. It's an alternative to being hospitalized in a psychiatric ward.

Shamir said that such psychotic breakdowns can be defined as a liminal
state, which people can recover from and resume their normal
functioning. According to the filmmaker, there are likely 2,000 people a
year who return to Israel in a similar state.

It's hard to follow them, he said, because sometimes their families
try to take care of them themselves.

Shamir said that while researching the film, he spent many hours in the
rehabilitation center, where he realized that a very high percentage of
the patients had been combat fighters during their military service.

It's a connection that cannot be discounted, Shamir said.

According to Shamir, Checkpoint was about the impact that the occupation
has had on both Israelis and on Palestinians. The numbers, he said,
speak for themselves: there is a disproportionately large number of
Israelis who suffer the dire effects of drug abuse in the Far East.

It's definitely a kind of post-traumatic reaction, he said. We live
in a very difficult existential reality, and when you leave the country
the contrast between here and there is incredibly strong.

Speaking on the phone Thursday while passing through newly created army
barriers on the way to Gush Katif, where he is currently filming a TV
documentary about the disengagement, Shamir would not specify how the
experience of participating in the disengagement process might affect
the next wave of travelers to the Far East.

It's certainly a situation that doesn't contribute to anyone's peace of
mind, he said.

Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

2005-08-04 Thread carlos6143


Mario,

You are absolutely correct. To say that Dinesh was hired because he is 
East Indian is nonsense and not worth arguing. He was hired because of 
his merits. And, Yes there will always be someone on this net to bring 
him down. No matter what they say, he has already established himself 
and made millions.

Regards,
Carlos

-Original Message-
From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian

--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://logosonline.home.igc.org/kelly.htm
If Dinesh D'Souza were not East Indian, he would
simply have no role to play for the Right: there
would be no White House credentials, no
appointments as scholar,.


Mario responds:


For anyone to suggest that he was hired by the Reagan
White House because he was an Indian displays a very
high level of ignorance.

[Goanet]Railway staff work on Roha-Panvel line

2005-08-04 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues

Publication: The Times Of India, Mumbai
Date: 04/08/2005
Section: Pg 05 - City
Page Number: 5


Rly staff work on Roha-Panvel line
TIMES NEWS NETWORK

Mumbai: Even as commuters went berserk at Mumbra and Ghatkopar stations to
protest the disruption of services, a sea of labourers were toiling away near
Kasu railway station, 117 kms from Mumbai, to lay 500 metres of tracks washed
away in the rains on July 25.
The track on the Panvel-Roha section of Central Railway was cut into two
when rain washed away the ground beneath. Principal Chief Engineer Subodh Jain,
who toured the site along with journalists on Wednesday said, Right now we will
construct a temporary bridge for the movement of trains. Train movement should
resume by August 6.''
The track which runs parallel to the Mumbai-Goa Highway had been submerged
in the downpour which also damaged homes in the neighbouring village of
Pandarpur.
While the railways have been working overtime to fix the damage, CR
officials say a major disaster was averted due to the alertness of a staffer
patrolling the section. It was he who informed Kasu railway station about the
tracks being washed away.
The Rajdhani which left Mumbai on July 25 was to pass the track. The patrol
man Murgesh informed the station master and the train was halted at Kasu,'' said
Jain.
Murgesh, a CR employee for the last 22 years, does not make much of it
though. He says he was merely doing his job, but he is happy that he was able to
save some 400 passengers. I was patrolling the area checking the tracks and its
fittings. I saw water gushing onto the tracks and knew it would soon be wiped
away.
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Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza

On 04/08/05, Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Instead of being proud of the achievements of one of
 our fellow Goans (or Indian), in typical crab
 mentality we want to tear him down, calling him
 something he is not etc.
 We may not agree with his political leanings, but
 given him credit where it is due.  Despite the odds,
 coming to this country as an immigrant, by sheer dint
 of his intelligence and scholarship, he has reached a
 position of renown and high honor.  We need to be
 proud of him and emulate his achievements.
 
  Vivian
RESPONSE: Yes we should be proud of Churchill,  Luizinho Faleiro and
all those other Goans who have made good! Instead what have got?
Everyone and his mother talking about graft.


-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

[Goanet]Dept.of Civil Supplies confiscates LPG cylinders

2005-08-04 Thread GOACAN

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In what could be deemed as the first round of surprise inspections
and raids, the Department of Civil Supplies on Tuesday confiscated
LPG cylinders, for unauthorised stacking by an agent in Vasco.

According to information furnished, the agent, Goa Gas Service of
Bharat Petroleum Company was found in possession of 34 cylinders
in excess of the prescribed quantum.Officials disclosed that an
agent can store not more than 100 kgs of LPG in their stock rooms.

On information received by the department, the said erring agent
was found in possession of eight cylinders for commercial purpose
and 26 were for domestic use. Further, seven from the commercial
lot were filled while 19 from the domestic lot were filled cylinders.

According to the Director of Civil Supplies, Ashok Dessai, a cylinder
for commercial purpose contains 19 kgs of LPG while a cylinder for
domestic purpose contains 14 kgs of LPG thereby indicating very
clearly that the Goa Gas Service at Vasco has violated the prescribed
norms.

Mr Desai speaking to Herald on Wednesday said, The surprise
inspection conducted on Tuesday is the beginning of a series of similar
such inspections and action will be taken against all erring parties.

Mr Dessai also disclosed that the department is contemplating on
commencing inspections and raids on the illegal use of domestic
cylinders for commercial purpose.He said that the illegal activities,
if unchecked, could cause a shortage of domestic LPG cylinders.

Tuesdays inspection and confiscations were conducted by Assistant
Director of Civil Supplies Siddhi Halarnakar, Ravi Shankar Nipanikar -
inspector from the DCS posted at Mormugao, Agnel Soares -
Sub-Inspector at the DCS flying squad. Vishnu Ray  Senior Officer
of Bharat Petroleum Company and Sanjay Karve - Executive Sales
Officer of Hindustan Petroleum.

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Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza

--- Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Instead of being proud of the achievements of one of
 our fellow Goans (or Indian), in typical crab
 mentality we want to tear him down, calling him
 something he is not etc.
 We may not agree with his political leanings, but
 given him credit where it is due.  Despite the odds,
 coming to this country as an immigrant, by sheer
 dint of his intelligence and scholarship, he has 
 reached a position of renown and high honor.  We 
 need to be proud of him and emulate his 
 achievements.
 
Mario adds:
Bravo, Vivian.  Thanks for speaking up.  Regardless of
whether one agrees with Dinesh's political views,
which are open for debate, as an American citizen you
know better than most what it means to be admitted to
Dartmouth, become editor of the Dartmouth Review, earn
a Phi Beta Kappa, be hired as a policy analyst in the
Reagan White House, be hired by think tanks like the
American Enterprise Institute and the Hoover Institute
at Stanford, etc. etc, etc.  Then the sly use of the
term East Indian in the American context to
insinuate that he in not a Goan.  I found these
insinuations quite remarkable, including the patently
false claim that his superlative achievements,
especially for an immigrant, are unmeritorious. 

In the meantime, not ONE reference to any of his
ideas, to spur civil debate on the issues.

[Goanet]Branded PC FOR RS.9790/-

2005-08-04 Thread Ancy S. D'Souza Paladka

According to the advertisement appeared in Times of India, Mumbai
Mirror and other dailies in Mumbai Xenitis is giving new branded pc
for the price of Rs. 9790/- (Rupees Nine Thousand Seven Hundred and
Ninety) only. They have named this pc as Amchi PC.

The Configurations of this new pc are as below:
Intel Celeron 2.4 GHZ
845 Intel Chipset Motherboard
128 MB DDR RAM
40 GB HDD
52x CD-ROM
1.44 MB FDD
15 Color Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
Integrated Audio
Red hat Enterprise Linux

Also the below are FREE
1. Installation
2. Delivery
3. Sales Service for ONE year

For more details please check out
http://www.xenitisgroup.com

Dev Borem Korum,
Ancy Salvadore D'Souza, Paladka

On 8/4/05, celes fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Sir,
 Could I get the details and source about the New P.C.
 that is available for Rs.10,000/- I would be grateful
 for the information
 Regrds
 C.Fernandes

[Goanet]India on the rise.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=J4LB13CHLPDCJQFIQMGCM5OAVCBQUJVC?xml=/opinion/2005/08/04/dl0402.xmlsSheet=/news/2005/08/04/ixworld.html
India on the rise
(Filed: 04/08/2005)

The launch in India of a personal computer for only £130 is a mark of
how the economy of that country has been transformed over the past
generation. As Peter Foster, our South Asia Correspondent, writes in
today's paper, its advent could herald an explosion in cyber
connectivity similar to that which has already hit the mobile-phone
market. India is living up to its reputation as a developing nation
with a sensational information-technology sector. Is it thereby on the
way to becoming a global economic giant?

Here, the comparisons with its great Asian rival are not encouraging.
While India has achieved six per cent annual growth since the late
1980s, thanks to the gradual dismantling of the licence raj regime,
China's figure has been 10 per cent since 1981. In the 1990s, foreign
direct investment in China was 10 times that in India. The upshot is
that fewer than five per cent of Chinese now live below the poverty
line, compared with 26 per cent in India.

To build on the potential that its IT expertise promises, India still
has major problems to overcome. Restrictive labour laws and an
aversion to foreign investment are holding back growth in the
manufacturing industry, which could draw off the land some of the 60
per cent of the population dependent on farming for a living. The
infrastructure - roads, ports, airports, power supply - remains
lamentable. And even the IT industry is hampered by the small
proportion of people who receive higher education.

Having set India on the road to more rapid growth in the early 1990s,
Manmohan Singh, the prime minister, deserves his reputation as an
economic reformer. But he heads a minority government dependent on the
Left to get its way in parliament. His predicament is illustrated by a
Bill before the Lok Sabha that would guarantee a minimum 100 days of
work a year in rural areas, a measure that smacks of the command
rather than the liberalised economy. India has the basic ingredients
for success - a stable democracy and a hard-working labour force eager
to improve its lot. But its elderly political elite is too attached to
a Fabian-tinged Indian way that holds back its would-be
entrepreneurs. That cussedness stands between respectable economic
progress and a breakthrough into China's league.

--
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

[Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza

2005-08-04 Thread Vivian D'Souza

Instead of being proud of the achievements of one of
our fellow Goans (or Indian), in typical crab
mentality we want to tear him down, calling him
something he is not etc.
We may not agree with his political leanings, but
given him credit where it is due.  Despite the odds,
coming to this country as an immigrant, by sheer dint
of his intelligence and scholarship, he has reached a 
position of renown and high honor.  We need to be
proud of him and emulate his achievements.

 Vivian

[Goanet]NEWS: Record 16 teams for Goan soccer in Dubai (Khaleej Times Online)

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Displayarticle.asp?xfile=data/sports/2005/August/sports_August32.xmlsection=sportssubsection=football

Record 16 teams for Goan soccer
By A Correspondent

2 August 2005

DUBAI  After the grand success of 2004 All Goa Inter-village soccer tournament
held at Iranian stadium Dubai, All Star Entertainment in association with United
Goans are organising the second edition of All Goa Inter-Village 11-a-side
football tournament during the Holy Month of Ramadan.

A record number of sixteen teams have already confirmed their entry.

The tournament will be held in Dubai at the Iranian Sports Stadium commencing
from October 7. Any team interested in participating may contact Savio:
050-6787369 or Benjamin: 050-7881289. The last date for entries is August 9.

[Goanet]NEWS: Prized solar shrimp hunt begins in Goa (Business Standard)

http://www.business-standard.com/smartinvestor/storypage.php?leftnm=lmnu6leftindx=6lselect=10chklogin=Nautono=196340

Prized solar shrimp hunt begins in Goa
Mayuresh Pawar / Panaji August 04, 2005
The annual hunt for the solar shrimp began in Goa from Monday, amidst reports
that the prices of the prized shrimp have fallen considerably this season.

While a kilogram of solar shrimp commanded a price of Rs 57 to Rs 60 last year,
the shrimp is now being quoted in the wholesale market at Rs 45 a kg.

Sea food merchants say the rates of the shrimp may not cross Rs 50 per kg this
season, attributing the lower prices to the fall in the international price of
shrimps.

Even the price of the much-sought after white prawns has come down this season,
said seafood merchants.

It was precisely because of the heavy presence of shrimps during this part of
the year, that the mechanised boat owners have been insisting on the demand to
reduce the ban on fishing.

The contention being that the solar shrimp remains in the sea for a short period
and disappears immediately.

Presently, Goa has no facility for packaging of shrimps, and the entire catch is
transported either to Kerala or Maharashtra.

This is perhaps the first time in the last three years that fishing began on
August 1, in view of the government ordinance reducing the ban. The Cutbona
jetty - the hub of mechanised fishing activity - has witnessed brisk activity
since Monday, when the fishing began.

The boat crew were seen loading fishing nets, while the evening saw labour
carrying diesel onboard the vessels.

[Goanet]MY THOUGHT FOR THE DAY !

2005-08-04 Thread gilbertlaw

Hi Ivy and Rene,
 
I fully endorse the following suggestion. 
Great idea. I have used it in my writings in cyberGoa. 
A few purists have ridiculed it. (We are Goans). 
On the whole, I think it gives me great satisfaction, increases my vocabulary 
and enriches my writing.
 
My wife and I have finished writing an English novel which has been accepted 
for publication in the USA. It has half a page of Romi Konkani dialogue. More 
at another time.
 
Kind Regards, GL
  
 rene barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 MY THOUGHT FOR THE DAY !   
  
  
 I suggest we have Goan Language Week commencing
  on WORLD GOA DAY. We  can start straightaway with
  common words and phrases in our emails and in  two
  weeks' time we should be well-versed in some of our
  exquisite Konkani expressions.
  
  Deo borem kourum
  
  Mog asundi
  
  Borer bachen ravat
  
  Ivy de Souza
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  New Zealand 
  000
  
  
   
  Goenkars ! 
  
  BTW - Ivy ...is the mother of Ruth  - the Family -
  great supporters of all things Goan ! 
  
  Mog asundi 

  rene barreto 
  MAKING THINGS HAPPEN ... in association with other
  Goans wherever they may be  !

[Goanet]FW: How can we help the flood victims in Mumbai?

2005-08-04 Thread Ariosto J. Coelho, Ph.D.

Hello Friends /Mogall Ixxtamno,

Please allow me to share this letter from Fr. Mario Vaz, SDB, a friend
and a colleague of mine since 1962. It is self explanatory. 
http://www.spiritualdirection.org/NewsAlert-050801.htm.
As requested by him, let us keep them in our prayers. Some parishioners
of St. John's Church in Hayward have asked me if there are other ways to
help those affected by the floods in Mumbai.

Please let me  know if you have any ideas of organizations that are in
place.Thanks. 
Ariosto Coelho
www.SpiritualDirection.org

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[Goanet]How a speeding mini-bus killed a school boy in Vasco

2005-08-04 Thread GOACAN

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In a tragic accident, a nine-year-old schoolboy was knocked
down to death today by an overspeeding mini-bus at the entrance
of the Kadamba Transport Corporation bus stand in the city. The
accident triggered protest from the public who broke the rear
glasses of the mini-bus.

Vasco police sources informed that the boy Subhash Yeshwant
Korgaonkar, a III Standard student of the St. Andrew's Institute,
was walking home by side of the road. His house is located at
the Goa Shipyard. The overspeeding mini-bus, which was entering
the KTC bus stand, knocked down the boy and dragged him for at
least 14 metres.

The boy was found in the pool of blood, with grievous injuries to
his head and thighs. He was rushed to the Cottage Hospital,
Chicalim, in an unconsciousness state. Considering the critical
condition of the boy, he was referred to the Goa Medical College
and Hospital, Bambolim. However, he breathed his last on the way,
the sources said.

After knocking down the boy, the mini-bus driver, Sumant Sudhir
Kulkarni (32), a resident of Zuarinagar Colony, fled from the bus
stand leaving behind the mini-bus. However, later in the evening,
the Vasco police arrested the driver under sections 279 and 304(A)
of the Indian Penal Code.

Some people, who witnessed the accident, were infuriated by the
ghastly fleeing of the driver. They gathered near the mini-bus and
broke its rear glasses.

An eyewitness stated that the accident occurred due to negligence
of the assistant sub-inspector and the constable attached to the traffic
police cell, who were posted near the entrance of the KTC bus stand.

One of them was smoking, while the other had gone to drink tea
during the peak hour, he informed.

The Vasco sub-divisional police officer, Mr Subhash Goltekar along
with other policemen rushed to the spot and conducted panchanama,
They have taken custody of the bus.

The body of the boy was handed over to his parents for final rites,
which were held at the Khariwada Hindu crematorium late in the evening.
The boy was the only son of Mr Yeshwant Korgaonkar. The boy left
behind four-month-old sister.

The former revenue minister and state Nationalist Congress Party
vice-president, Mr Jose Phillip D'Souza visited the accident site.
He along with the agitated crowd impressed upon the sub-divisional
magistrate and deputy collector,Mormugao, Ms Meena Goltekar to
erect two speed-breakers near the Narayan Auto Works and Hotel
Rebello, on the exit and entrance of the KTC bus stand.
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[Goanet]TV channel for Goa

2005-08-04 Thread English Books Al-Ahsa S/R

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Hello Stephen

Its useless going to any head of the government. If that was the case, the
one hour broadcast would have been 24 hours ages ago. As you already know,
all our leaders are self centered, who cannot see anything beyond their
pockets. What we need are leaders who can do better for us but where are
they? Till now, I can assume only Floraino and party who might do good for
us Goans, and we need more thinkers like Floriano who hope to de better for
Goa.

Now regarding your comments, it would be much better to approach the already
established channels, to have one channel only in Konkani, and for that we
do need programs to fill up 24 hours.

Cheers

Jerry Fernandes
Stephen Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 We should voice our concern. I am raising my voice for our rights as Goan.
Our
 Chief Minister, MPs and all the people in the position who have the power
to
 bring us our own channel. Do something or you shall be deprived of your
power,
 we shall see to it.

[Goanet]Monsoon oddyssey in Mumbai

This is an amazing  true story of the oddyssey of some
close friends who were on their way back from Pune to
Detroit on July 27, when the worst deluge in Mumbai
history descended upon them.  This will be even more
amazing to those familiar with the terrain between
Chembur and Santa Cruz.  David is a pediatric
cardiologist and a cousin of my wife.  His wife Rose
owned a school in Muscat, where they used to live, and
has just sold it.  They have two mid-teen sons, and
were all on a trip to India.
 
On Tuesday, July 27, they set out at around 10:00 am
from Pune in a chauffer-driven rented van heading for
a relative's house in Santa Cruz, in pouring rain,
stopping at Lonavla to buy some Chikki to bring to the
US.  At Panvel the water had risen to mid-wheel level,
the traffic had slowed to a crawl but they continued
until they ran into deeper water and total gridlock on
the highway at Chembur by around 3:00 pm.  The four
members, their driver, and thousands of others were
stranded in their respective cars, with rain pouring
outside, through the night, with no access to food or
water that they did not have with them, or bathrooms
either (I didn't have the guts to ask!).  These four
had only the Chikki from Lonavla and a couple of
bottles of water.  By 10:00 am on July 28, with no
sign of any pause in the rain, or any discernable
change in the water level, they decided to join the
hordes that had begun to walk towards Mumbai, through
the flooded highways and roads, in the pouring rain.
 
Leaving all their possessions with the driver, after
giving him the address - useless in Mumbai to a
stranger at the best of times - and some directions as
best they could on how to get to their destination in
Santa Cruz, they set out on foot.  From Chembur,
through Sion, Dharavi, Bandra East to Bandra West up
SV Road all the way to their cousin's place near the
Santa Cruz Church.  Walking through water that varied
from ankle to waist deep, through pouring rain,
accompanied by thousands of others, this took them 5
1/2 hours!
 
I am very familiar with this route, as some of you may
also be, and cannot even conceive of walking it in the
best of conditions.  Then imagine traversing Dharavi,
one of the largest slums in Asia, on foot in waist
deep water!  At least, that night, they could bathe
and change into some borrowed clothes and have a home
cooked meal.
 
To their amazement, the driver showed up at the door
at 10:00 pm, with the van and all their luggage.  
This guy deserves some kind of prize for persistence
as well as honesty.
 
It was another adventure to get on a flight out of
Mumbai to London and then to get on a flight to
Detroit, after flights had been cancelled for three
days, but their family connections enabled them to do
so, and they left finally left Mumbai at mid-night of
Thursday, July 28 th. and got to sunny and warm
Detroit the evening of Friday, July 29th, only 24
hours later than planned, and happy to be alive.

[Goanet]An interesting website :

2005-08-04 Thread rene barreto



 An interesting website : 


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http://www.holidaytruths.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=44661

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[Goanet]Bank shoot out in Margao - fatal casualties averted

2005-08-04 Thread godfrey gonsalves

In a daring attempt this afternoon at 1537 hrs IST
Agnelo Mendes, a resident of Malbhat Margao a Cashier
in the State Bank of Mysore situated at the Ground
floor of Damodar Chambers  below M/s Hanuman Lawande
Chambers (Builder) near the now demolished Blue Pearl
Cinema in Margao, and just opposite the residence of
ex Mayor of Margao Santosh Pai Raiturkar (now a BJP
office bearer)  rushed to the rescue of his Manager
who was shot by one unknown person (believed to be
hailing from Cuncolim area) and three others who fled
the scene.  

According to the reports from Joe Mendes Proprietor of
Mendes Auto Garage Malbhat ,brother of Agnelo  who
this writer spoke to he stated that somewhere around
three thirty five IST as the Bank transactions were
closed for the afternoon break it is believed some
persons entered the Bank and went menancingly towards
the Manager  in full glare of the staff present mostly
women and shot him during the scuffle on the leg. 

In yet another version still to be confirmed , it is
believed two persons entered and demanded at gun point
money from the Cashier.  They were led to the
mezzanine floor where the Manager sits. It is here
that shots were fired at the Manager and the Cashier
who accompanied him jumped to nab the attacker and
suffered the injuries.  The attacker is believed to be
speaking in Konkani 

It was the heroic effort of Mr Agnelo who otherwise
suffers a limp on his leg to rush to the rescue of his
Manager.  

In the melee Mr Agnelo was hurt  in the mouth by the
firing of the gun and has been rushed to the Goa
Medical College Hospital Bambolim. He is declared out
of danger as confirmed from GMC Hospital sources.

Until 1840 hrs a  pose of police was posted at the
Bank premises entrance which incidentally is always
with near closed gates.  Due to intensive
interrogations in progress it is not known whether the
security guard was present at the time of the incident

Being siesta time most shutters are downed and there
are usually few people around what with intermittent
bouts of rain showers. But the screams and shots fired
may have numbed eyewitnesses in shock.  The usual
syndrome of speak no evil hear no evil was felt when
this writer tried to ferret out information from
neighbours etc.

The sensational occurence was dismissed lightly
initially as a similar event took place recently in
Punjab National Bank in Margao but it turned out to be
a fake threat as the man was armed with a toy pistol.

It is common for such robberies in Margao with the
rise of several outsiders now residing in the city and
it has almost become a fashion to recruit services of
the Security personnel. But the irony is that niether
is there a law to ascertain the credibility of those
recruited by the agencies and the police have a half
hearted interest in ensuring that Forms of
identification are filled in by these employers to
ascertain the identity of these migrants. gone are the
days when citizens of Nepal constituted the security
force today ex-servicemen are considered but not all
belong to this category. 

According to one business man near the Bank he said
that a number of Biharis and UP migrants have sought
employment as security personnel and with the
construction boom in the State several carpenters
marble stone traders plumbers etc have bought flats
and are residing in the city. Goan lavish lifestyle
and absentee husbands have attracted the attention of
several migrants to the easy going gullible attitude
of Goans, and this tends to be breeding grounds for
such robberies given that the divide between the rich
and poor is widening by the hour at least in the eyes
of the migrants.

Efforts to contact the Bank Manager or staff on +91
832 2732742 have not yielded results.

It is not clear of the motive of the crime but there
is an apprehension that is may be a case of some
loanee who owes the bank overdues explained a Banker
from a nearby South Indian Bank.

Most of the residents in the Building fear a reprisal
now that one person has been arrested and there are
reports that a driving licence too was found in the
melee.

The police are however tight lipped and their version
is thus far in line with the gossip in town.


GODFREY J I GONSALVES 
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Re: [Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://logosonline.home.igc.org/kelly.htm 
 If Dinesh D'Souza were not East Indian, he would
 simply have no role to play for the Right: there
 would be no White House credentials, no 
 appointments as scholar,.
 
Mario responds:
The term east Indian is commonly used in America to
distinguish Indian Indians from American Indians, West
Indians, etc.  It has nothing to do with the east
Indian community in and around Mumbai.

To show how biased the statement posted above is,
Dinesh D'Souza was hired by the Reagan White House in
1983 after a distinguished college career at Dartmouth
University, which is one of the top Ivy League
universities in the US.  He became prominent at the
university as the editor of the Dartmouth Review, a
student-run university publication.  His academic
achievements at Dartmouth included acceptance in a
group called Phi Beta Kappa, where academic excellence
is the only qualification.

For anyone to suggest that he was hired by the Reagan
White House because he was an Indian displays a very
high level of ignorance of the Reagan White House, or
is a blatant attempt to tear down his obvious
achievements.  Reagan was known for not using race in
selecting his advisors, and these same political
opponents strongly criticized him for that.  Dinesh's
subsequent achievements also point up the false claims
by his political opponents, namely his selection by
the esteemed American Enterprise Institute then the
equally esteemed Hoover Institute at Stanford
University speak for themselves, but only to those who
are familiar with these institutions.  

People who don't know the difference between east
Indian as used in the US and the east Indian
community hardly qualify as being familiar with elite
US institutions.

[Goanet]Dinesh D'Sousa -- Assagao !!

2005-08-04 Thread eric pinto

  Socolvaddo !!   Raised in family owned home,  Dr.
Peter Dias Road,  St. Andrews - Bandra, steps from the
home of Victor Goveia Pinto, across the street from
netter/Sangolda social worker Edwin Pinto.  His father
Francis proudly displayed the family picture with big
Ron, in the Oval Office. eric.




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Re: [Goanet]re: dinesh d'souza

--- Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think dinesh's name has appeared on this list
 earlier in a different context. that he is a
 conservative and anti-immigrant is well-known.
 
Mario replies:
Dinesh D'Souza is a modern political conservative.  He
is NOT anti-immigrant, being an immigrant himself.

Eugene continues:
 he earned his reputation for himself being an 
 immigrant who has attacked affirmative action.

Mario replies:
Many Asian immigrants oppose affirmative action
because it makes no sense in the long run.  Dinesh is
a critic of the kind of affirmative action that
selects unqualified people simply on the basis of
their race, often setting them up for failure.  He
supports using race as one factor in selecting equally
qualified candidates who might have been overlooked in
the past.  Dinesh would prefer that those with
inferior qualifications, for whatever reason, improve
their qualifications first, so that they can the
compete successfully in this highly competitive
country.  For example, many top American universities
accept unqualified minorities because of political
correctness.  What is given little publicity is that a
high percentage of these then drop out because they
cannot keep up with the other highly qualified
students, many of whom are Asians.  Their obvious
shorcomings versus their peers in the highly selective
universities, before and after admission, also harms
their self-confidence, whereas had they gone to one of
the many less competitive universities they generally
fare better and graduate with more confidence.

Eugene writes:
 I have read his two books and many articles.
 I also think I pointed out here that to the best of
 my knowledge Dinesh is an east indian. Someone in
 Canada told me she knew him as a child in Bandra, as
 both families were from the same area. 
 However, let me add that calling for his ethnic
 background has nothing to do with my post here, just
 to ask for clarification whether he is on Goan
 origin.

Mario replies:
Dinesh D'Souza is as Goan as Eugene seems to be.

Eugene writes:
 I have no problems discussing his politics. 

Mario responds:
Thank you, Eugene.  I believe it is quite appropriate
to debate his ideas, as well as to disagree with him. 
What I object to are the attempts by some to tear down
a Goan-Indian, who is second only to Victor Menezes of
Citigroup, who has now retired, in achievement by
Goans in the United States.  Without the benefit of
any affirmative action, I may add.

[Goanet]It doesn't rain; it pours.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/aug2005/2005-08-04-02.asp
Record Rains Sweep Mumbai Into Flood Emergency 

MUMBAI, India, August 4, 2005 (ENS) - Heavy monsoon rains since over
the past 10 days have claimed 1,023 lives in the Indian west coast
state of Maharashtra, according to police figures, and more than 100
people are still missing.

The coastal districts and the Mumbai Metropolis were hardest hit by
the heaviest rainfall ever recorded in a 24 hour period that fell here
on July 26 and 27. Heavy to moderate rains continued Wednesday in
Mumbai and the Konkan region.

At least one million families in Maharashtra have been directly
affected by the floods, landslides, and the release of water from
various dams, state officials estimate.


Flood water in affected districts has begun to recede, but now
overflowing dams, lack of clean water, and piles of rotting garbage
are posing a new threats to the beleaguered population.


Flooding rains make life miserable in India' financial capital of Mumbai 
The World Health Organization says about 200 medical teams consisting
of medical officers and para-medical staff have been sent to flood
affected areas to provide medical assistance and take prevention and
control measures to avert a post-flood epidemic.
In addition, 50 medical teams are operating in suburban Mumbai and 150
teams in rural areas.

The state is organizing hygiene awareness campaign on cable/TV
programs and through press briefings for use of alum, boiling drinking
water by public.

The Mumbai airport was reopened Wednesday to full capacity, but the
trains are not operating in Mumbai because the tracks were damaged in
the flooding. Street demonstrations against lack of train service
yesterday and today have not resulted in repair of the damaged tracks.

Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh said Tuesday that the
management of natural calamities and disasters needs a re-look.

Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh  
We have learned a good lesson from the recent incidents and the
management of such natural calamities and disasters needs a re-look,
Deshmukh told reporters after touring the flood affected areas.
He directed the authorities to complete distribution of grains and
other relief material to the flood-affected people within the next
couple of days. In the next two weeks, the state would prepare a
memorandum with details of damages and approach the central government
for additional funds, he said.

The state will give Rs one lakh (100,000 rupees or US$2,300) to the
kith and kin of every adult who died in the floods and Rs 50,000 for
every minor, one official explained.

In addition, the state is providing Rs 5,000 (US$115) cash to all
those affected by the floods in all income groups and 10 kilos (22
pounds) of foodgrains.

Chief Minister Deshmukh and other officials have said that the amount
of financial aid received from the central government is too small.

The task is huge and the situation is still alarming in many places.
Rains have stopped for now, but water levels are still high in several
rivers. The number of affected people is quite large and the magnitude
of the disaster is just too huge, a senior official said.

In the worst affected areas, there is a lack of clean drinking water,
and health officials fear outbreaks of viral disease.

As the water levels have receded piles of garbage have emerged
including, furniture washed away from houses, vegetables, clothes,
rats and, in worst cases, human bodies and animal carcasses, the
Hindu newspaper reports.

Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister R.R. Patil on Wednesday accused the
neighboring state of Karnataka of not releasing enough water from its
Alamatti dam, causing water to back up, worsening the flood situation
in the several districts. He sought the immediate intervention of the
Prime Minister in the matter.

In the neighboring state of Goa, low-lying areas in both South and
North Goa districts were flooded due to heavy rains and high tide
conditions in the rivers. A total of nine deaths have been reported
due to a landslide in Dicarpale village in South Goa district. Train
traffic along coastal areas was disrupted due to submergence of rail
tracks.


-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

[Goanet]Enquiry into IFFI expenditure.

Goa CM orders inquiry into IFFI expenditure
PANAJI, Aug 1: Goa Chief Minister Pratapsinh Rane has instituted an
inquiry into the expenditure incurred for the International Film
Festival of India held last December following pressure from his
cabinet colleagues as well as coalition partners. The ruling Congress
party alleges that Rs.150 crore was spent on the festival while the
BJP says only Rs.60 crore was spent. (Raju Nayak, The Indian Express)
-- 

Let us hope that this will not be a cover up job.

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #2415 - 21 msgs

2005-08-04 Thread English Books Al-Ahsa S/R

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Hello Stephen

Its useless going to any head of the government. If that was the case, the
one hour broadcast would have been 24 hours ages ago. As you already know,
all our leaders are self centered, who cannot see anything beyond their
pockets. What we need are leaders who can do better for us but where are
they? Till now, I can assume only Floraino and party who might do good for
us Goans, and we need more thinkers like Floriano who hope to de better for
Goa.

Now regarding your comments, it would be much better to approach the already
established channels, to have one channel only in Konkani, and for that we
do need programs to fill up 24 hours.

Cheers

Jerry Fernandes
Stephen Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 We should voice our concern. I am raising my voice for our rights as Goan.
Our
 Chief Minister, MPs and all the people in the position who have the power
to
 bring us our own channel. Do something or you shall be deprived of your
power,
 we shall see to it.

[Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]04 August 2005 08:56
To: goanet@goanet.org
http://logosonline.home.igc.org/kelly.htm

PART PORTION:-

Easy Street

There is nothing typical about Dinesh D'Souza's ride to the top. His
is an exceptional journey, but exceptional only in the sense of odd or
irregular. He holds the post of  scholar but has earned only a BA in
English from Dartmouth where he eventually transferred. At age 26, he
served as Senior Domestic Policy Analyst under Reagan without a shred
of serious policy training. In fact D'Souza, the political expert,
has no training whatsoever in social science. Moreover, he has been
appointed to two research institute positions without a single peer-
reviewed essay or publication. And, perhaps not surprisingly, he is
treated as a serious intellectual in the media and publishing world
despite the remarkable lack of research that goes into his books.  As
an immigrant success story, his is more reminiscent of the political
patronage and smoke-filled backroom promotions of over a century
ago—only this time ethnicity and tribalism are denounced and denied as
the source of D'Souza's power. In reality, D'Souza has little in the
way of credentials or training to merit any of his promotions.1 In
transparent violation of his own meritocratic-fanaticism, D'Souza's
rewards are, in the end, a result of his willingness to fill the role
of brown-skinned provocateur for the
Right...Though race, ethnicity and identity
are all liberal bogeymen for the Right, it is they who so skillfully
play the race card. If Dinesh D'Souza were not East Indian, he would
simply have no role to play for the Right: there would be no White
House credentials, no appointments as scholar,.

The article is quite long and I do not wish to take up bandwidth. Also
I refuse to be drawn into any discussion with the resident charlatan.
This would end up in a long drawn barrage. I have already stated that
I shall not be drawn in by him.

Cheers.

Gabe Menezes.
London England.

P.S. D'Souza served a year in the Reagan era.
-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

Re: [Goanet]Costas are Brahmins, and so Indians by origin?

2005-08-04 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo


--- D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The story that has been doing the rounds for
 centuries now is that the
 first Costa settler in India had sailed to the
 subcontinent in the
 company of Vasco da Gama.
 But there is also information that the Costas are
 Brahmins, and so
 Indians by origin.

May not be connected, but Costa (spelt Kosta) can also
be Greek ... maybe a descendant of the Macedonians?

Cheers

Gabriel.

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RE: [Goanet]Costas are Brahmins, and so Indians by origin?

2005-08-04 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias

Avelino, I cannot understand your reasoning.
What does someone's caste has to do with someone's surname?

Also, surely you did not think that all Costas descend from the first white
Portuguese settler that travelled to India with Vasco da Gama, right?

The first hindus who were baptised usually took the surname of the priests
or celebrants that baptised them. Hence, you will have Costas who were Hindu
Brahmins before being baptised. I may be wrong but I believe that majority
of Goan Costas are Goans by origin and do not have Portuguese blood in them.
To be honest, I have not come across any Goan Costas who can tell they
descend from a Portuguese Costa. 

In fact the families that are known as descendentes (descend from the
Portuguese) in Goa are not many. From the top of my head I can think of
these: Lobato-Faria, Fragoso, Aquino, Camelo, Correa-Mendes. There are some
more though. These can tell for sure they descend from the Portuguese and
are usually known as descendentes (in Portuguese). Other families might
also descend from the Portuguese but it becomes difficult to trace unless
you manage to track the whole family tree until the first baptised.

Best regards
Paulo Colaco Dias.

PS: Please do not involve me in any caste related discussion. I am not
interested.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of D'Souza, Avelino
 Sent: 04 August 2005 05:55
 To: goanet@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet]Costas are Brahmins, and so Indians by origin?
 
 The story that has been doing the rounds for centuries now is that the
 first Costa settler in India had sailed to the subcontinent in the
 company of Vasco da Gama.
 But there is also information that the Costas are Brahmins, and so
 Indians by origin.
 We have no documentary evidence in support of either statement; we only
 know that, at the close of the sixteenth century, the Costa family lived
 in the fortress of Rachol and several of its members held posts that
 were the preserve of blue-blooded Brahmins only.
 How can one reconcile these two theories?
 
 More at,
 
 http://www.28costavin.com/fam%20note%201.htm
 
 
 
 Avelino
 Bastora/Kuwait

[Goanet]MY THOUGHT FOR THE DAY ! Ivy de Souza - New Zealand.

2005-08-04 Thread rene barreto



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   MY THOUGHT FOR THE DAY !   


   I suggest we have Goan Language Week commencing
on WORLD GOA DAY. We  can start straightaway with
common words and phrases in our emails and in  two
weeks' time we should be well-versed in some of our
exquisite Konkani expressions.

Deo borem kourum

Mog asundi

Borer bachen ravat

Ivy de Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

New Zealand 
000


 
Goenkars ! 

BTW - Ivy ...is the mother of Ruth  - the Family -
great supporters of all things Goan ! 

Mog asundi 
  
rene barreto 
MAKING THINGS HAPPEN ... in association with other
Goans wherever they may be  !
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RE: [Goanet]Re: Emigration/Sikh vs Goans

2005-08-04 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias

Afra, I used to feel a bit like you but soon realised one cannot generalise.
There are a few individuals that behave like you mentioned but not everyone
from East Africa is like that. Over the years I have learned to understand
and respect that. Anyway, if some people prefer to say that they are
Africans rather than Goans, it is their choice really. It is surely
regrettable, but it is their choice.

The fact is that majority of us feel like first class citizens only in our
own motherland, which is Goa. Elsewhere, we are immigrants. We may be
citizens of another country, we may be very well integrated in other
cultures and other societies, our children might be born elsewhere, we may
have partners from other cultures. But one thing will always be true: our
origin is Goan and our culture is rich and different. Nobody will ever be
able to change that.

Having attended recently the SCOGO Festival in South West London (Croydon),
I could see the difference from previous years. London now has a
considerable amount of Goans recently arrived from Goa. In my opinion, that
can only improve the quality and the truthfulness of our reach Goan culture
and values in the United Kingdom.

Best of luck for your future in London.

Paulo Colaco Dias.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of afra dias
 Sent: 04 August 2005 03:24
 To: goanet@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet]Re: Emigration/Sikh vs Goans
 
 Hi Fred,
 
 You know it very well but will not spell it out.
 Here it is: GOANS ARE NOT AS COOPERATIVE AS THE SIKH COMMUNITY.
 I went to a Goan FEAST party the other day and no one would talk to me
 because
 I did not come from their village.
 They were mostly from East Africa migrated to UK, they look down on Goans
 who
 come directly from India, and call them butlers and waiters.
 This sort of mantality does not help when it comes to developing our
 selves
 let alone community.
 Afra. (London)
 
 Fred said,
 Interesting! Goa may not have the migratory numbers when compared to
 other states like the Punjab, Gujarat, Andhra or Kerala. But people from
 Goa
 too have played pioneering roles (sometimes controversial, at other times
 immensely positive) in places like East Africa, the Persian Gulf when
 people
 still lived in tents and recall drinking sandy water, Burma, and cities
 like
 Karachi.
 
 So why are Goans simply so invisible in history? Is it that their tale
 has not been told? How do we change this situation? Can the Internet
 help? Questions, questions

[Goanet]Dinesh D'Souza; East Indian....

http://logosonline.home.igc.org/kelly.htm

PART PORTION:-

Easy Street

There is nothing typical about Dinesh D'Souza's ride to the top. His
is an exceptional journey, but exceptional only in the sense of odd or
irregular. He holds the post of  scholar but has earned only a BA in
English from Dartmouth where he eventually transferred. At age 26, he
served as Senior Domestic Policy Analyst under Reagan without a shred
of serious policy training. In fact D'Souza, the political expert,
has no training whatsoever in social science. Moreover, he has been
appointed to two research institute positions without a single peer-
reviewed essay or publication. And, perhaps not surprisingly, he is
treated as a serious intellectual in the media and publishing world
despite the remarkable lack of research that goes into his books.  As
an immigrant success story, his is more reminiscent of the political
patronage and smoke-filled backroom promotions of over a century
ago—only this time ethnicity and tribalism are denounced and denied as
the source of D'Souza's power. In reality, D'Souza has little in the
way of credentials or training to merit any of his promotions.1 In
transparent violation of his own meritocratic-fanaticism, D'Souza's
rewards are, in the end, a result of his willingness to fill the role
of brown-skinned provocateur for the
Right...Though race, ethnicity and identity
are all liberal bogeymen for the Right, it is they who so skillfully
play the race card. If Dinesh D'Souza were not East Indian, he would
simply have no role to play for the Right: there would be no White
House credentials, no appointments as scholar,.

The article is quite long and I do not wish to take up bandwidth. Also
I refuse to be drawn into any discussion with the resident charlatan.
This would end up in a long drawn barrage. I have already stated that
I shall not be drawn in by him.

Cheers.

Gabe Menezes.
London England.

P.S. D'Souza served a year in the Reagan era.

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