[Goanet] Re: New Marine Lines.
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- I remember the american library and of course liberty cinema nirmala niketan, bombay hospital etc I am born and bred up in dhobitalao - Marine Lines - Dabul. Give me more info about the family / details of your friend and let me try to recollect. maybe I may know him by face rather than by name regards Herman _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Konkani Drama "Anv Kallokant Sandlom" in Bahrain on 27th April 2006
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Konkani Drama "Anv Kallokant Sandlom" Bahrain: Tiatr a traditional form of Konkani Drama is being stage in Bahrain later this month. FFR Production in association with The Folk Theatre is presenting tthe drama entitled "Anv Kallokant Sandlom" meaning I am lost in the dark by Jr. Anthony Luis. It will be staged on April 27 at the Baan Saeng Thai Restaurants's auditorium in Adliya, starting at 7.30 p.m. Jr. Anthony Luis, is quite famous among the artistes here and has presented comedy skits in almost every Konkani programmes in Bahrain for the last few years. Before his arrival into Bahrain he has performed for many professional directors in Goa, besides regularly producing his own Konkani plays for carnival celebrations. Well known stage artistes from Goa including Felcy, and the Top Comedian of Konkani stage Domnic and Kuwait-based Comedian Philip and Querobina will be flown in specially for the show. Selected local artistes will provide the supporting roles. Tickets for the show "Anv Kallokant Sandlom" are priced at BD: 3/- and BD: 2/- are now available at Mangalore Store, La Ferns Cafe and Jehad Electronics. There will be free transport after the show to Isa Town, Riffa and Budaiya. The show is sponsored by Indian Airlines, State Bank of India and Coca-Cola. For further details contact the organisers on 39659539 or 39083239 G.R.Crasto[EMAIL PROTECTED] exclusive for www.goa-world.com www.goa-world.com/goa/tiatr&tiatrist/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling road sense is not going to change
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Well said Mario!! Elisabeth > > > Elisabeth, I'm not sure you can erode something that > never existed in the first place. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Priest Murdered
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Miguel Well said. Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: "Miguel Braganza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Afra, > > 1. Who are you to judge what the Priest 'should have been doing or > shouldn't have been doing"? I never realized helping someone in need > meant playing with fire. Even if he was a public figure, why tarnish his > name? _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: indo-french exercises
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- >Lastly, as a Goan, Im proud that Goa is an important cog in our nations=20 >defence. >regards, Gilbert Menezes. > The indian navy is an important cog in Goa's underdevelopment and future. So listen to Nasci and tell your folks to get out of Dabolim. BC _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Who can take up this exercise
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- WHo can take up this exercise of checking how many unsolved cases are lying with dust covered in the courts of law in Goa, how many innocent victims are Languishing in Goa Jails, how many cases and from which year employment exchange has been recruiting and not recuriting educated youth, or is it pay first and only then we shall send you a call letter from Exchange.Who can tell us the crime rate in Goa, has it increased or decreased? Any takers? Araujo J _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Foreigners in Goa on prescription
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- "That description fits me perfectly. I am a foreigner - citizen of a Foreign country I am not working = " Bekar" and no I did not win a Lottery I have a permanent residence in Goa I played my cards right, and am now living it up. Viva Goa ! Goans living abroad dont know what they are missing. Foreigners and non-Goan Indians have discovered Goa and are flocking here. Like me, they love Goa." Afra says, I dont know about description, I know that they have played their prescription right, I know of a few British Citizens who are in Goa on permanent sick leave - doctors prescription. Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Where have all the singers Gone
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- I do recall during my school days listening to Tuna sparks by Timoteo Fernandes where have all the Valadares/Veiga Coutinho's / Lawrence Fernandes, Lucio Miranda,Emiliano and so many singers Goa produced. ITs time Remo who is internationally acclaimed, organises something like "LEMBRANCA" or "GOA ANTIGA" getting all of them together and giving goa a Blast , accompanied by LORNA AND HEMA SARDESSAI, may have forgotten some others. ITs been a long time we ever witnessed something like that , trust me this show is bound to be successful. What say Bonefacio Lopes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: Driving in India
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Thank you Cecil, This is hilarious but very very TRUE! A correct reflection on driving and transport in India! INCREDIBLE INDIA INDEED! It is a pity that these sorts of articles will not move our authorities, who are steeped in ancient dhoti culture and bureaucratic red tape! What is required is a High Powered Authority to enforce the Rules and the Law, mercilessly. Bye, from Down Under. Nascimento Caldeira Melbourne _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] DABOLIM (part 2)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Airports serving both military and civilian use were / are common. IMHO looking at the statistics, Dabolim is a significantly underutilized airport even though it is used routinely by civilian and naval-military aircraft. In the USA, the O'Hare airport in Chicago was a military and civilian airport till the mid 1980's. With civilian air traffic increasing, President Carter handed over the airport to the Chicago mayor for civilian use. It is now the most bussiest airport in the world. Old Pittsburgh airport was a military-civilian airport till a decade ago when a new civilian airport was built. Youngstown, Ohio airport is still a combined civilian (cargo, passenger) and army-reserve airport. In fact many airports in the USA started for joint-use. Then one or the other needed a better place in the last two decades as commercial traffic or military traffic increased. We should also not forget about cargo / parcel / overnight air delivery traffic. In the USA it is with Fed Ex, UPS and Postal service etc etc. This distribution /sorting center can be a major employer. Goa is critically located between North and South India. Currently, IMHO with Dabolim, neither segment of air traffic, separately or together is anyway close to reaching saturation point - though it can get there and exceed capacity if the state governemnt and Goenkars work together. We all need to pull together - IN THE SAME DIRECTION. Right now, Goans are pulling in different directions giving mixed messages to Delhi and to other investors in Goa. Inspite of that, Goa is moving forward - from accounts of all my relatives and friends who have visited Goa. The challenge is to predict the future as India is rapidly progressing. The challenge for Goans is: Are we going to be ahead of the curve or behind the curve. We love our camiao slogan - Rauta Muree! We did "Rauta Muree" for the computer / IT industry. Regards, GL _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: Pre & Pot 1961 Goa - a response to Tony Correia Afonso
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Mapusa of the 1950s
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Dear Tonybab,
First of all, my apologies for not responding to your posting earlier. Am
busy with stuff and I totally missed your post until about an hour ago.
Before I add my further two cents bit to this (I believe) intellectually
challenging debate, I'd like to place my cards (personal positions) on the
table.
1: Goa is and will always be my home.
2: The Portuguese did a lot of good and bad - in and to Goa and Goans.
3: 1961 was as good a time as any for Portugal to leave Goa.
4: Our family was definitely anti-Salazar, and I have not seen (nor read)
anything which would make me pro-Salazar.
5: Even though the eventual result would have been (in my mind) the same,
Nehru should have
offered Goans (even if it was on December 20, 1961) a chance to be
Independent or Join India. I don't think he thought much about Goans as
being anything more than "Cooks and Butlers".
6: Your terminology of 'absorption' notwithstanding, the official terms used
in the SC rulings are Invasion and Annexation. Don't understand the need to
overrule the Supreme Court of India.
7: NOT every body who opts to reclaim his(or her) Portuguese Nationality is
a supporter of Salazar or a ill-wisher of India. In fact, I wonder IF most
of the Salazarists aren't right there in Goahaving made their poixe by
sucking up to Salazar.
8: Not everybody who turns down the opportunity to gain another nationality,
or turns down an opportunity to work abroad, is a patriot. Pundalik Gaitonde
and Fanchu Loyola were patriots, were they not? And yet they left (for
reasons they know best) to reside their golden years (of all the places) in
Salazar's Portugal(from which even Portugal's Portuguese were fleeing).
9: Not everybody who returns to Goa is a patriot or whatever. Each one makes
his own decision for his own reasons. Some are family reasons, others
emotional, occupational, opportunity...but most are FINANCIAL. IF the Rupee
gets stronger than the Pound or Dollar; or IF it gets more expensive to live
in Goa in comparison to the UK/US, I wonder how many of the UK/US retirees
will stay on in Goa. So, without prejudice, I say "To Each His Own"
10: I personally wish the best for both Portugal and India. That is how the
Gujratis who live there and their relatives who live in Daman and Diu,
think. IMHO, That is the smart and practical way of looking at it.
Now to your responses to a few questions [wrt: Pre & Post 1961 Goa]; I have
a few closing comments at the foot of this (rather long message)
TCA = Tony Correia-Afonso JC = jose colaco
TCA: "I did expect a response from you to my post and have not been
disappointed!"
JC: My dear Tonybab, I am not in the business of disappointing others. I
know that you being an honourable man, will accept my points for what they
are worth. You don't have to necessarily agree with my view point...just One
that it is my privilege to be able to e-debate a person of your stature,
and one whom I admire & repect immensely.
---
Now
JC Q1: "On what reviewable (researchable) basis did you conclude that the
Vast Majority of people in Goa were economically deprived (say in 1961)?"
TCA A1: < I confess that my observations were based on personal experience
and knowledge, rather than on any published data, but would maintain that
they are no less valid for this reason. The term "economically deprived" is
a relative one and few will deny that a majority of the common people
("gente do povo"), who constituted the vast majority,were economically
deprived when compared with the minority privileged class.>
JC 1b: I submit, dear Tonybab that even you with your vast 'personal
experience and knowledge' could NOT by yourself provide validity to the
conclusion you have arrived at.
I'll say this to you - please think about what you feel about the following:
In ANY country (including so called socialist countries), at ANY given time,
the VAST MAJORITY of people will be RELATIVELY "economically deprived"
when COMPARED to the 'minority privileged class'. There are enough of
economic indicators which one can research and review to ascertain that.
BTW Tonybab, That was never the question posed to you.
You, dear Tonybab had ASSERTED that 'the Vast Majority of people in Goa were
economically deprived'.(I assume circa 1961)
I ask you again, If I may : How do you know that?
And, IF you are using the RELATIVE coefficient, are you saying that in Goa
2006, the VAST
MAJORITY of people are NOT RELATIVELY "economically deprived" when COMPARED
to the minority privileged
Re: [Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants & OCI status - final
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who am I to question your personal experience? > However, I don't believe any US Immigration official > would pick the Indian passport last - just the > opposite, because his physician, friend's or > relative's physician, his old professor, childrens's > school teacher or professor, children's school or > college mate and head of the class, local > storekeeper, > local hotelier, etc. is highly likely to be an > Indian. That, Mario, is your opinion, not a fact. Personal experiences count. No more from me on this topic. Gabriel de Figueiredo. On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Eugene, You must be kidding. Jerome Mendes' is the only association? I though Rene Barreto has another one. Maybe Vivian is toying with an idea of setting some other. Also there is a lot of noise being made by the Goan NRI Association with its website www.goa500.com Well, I wonder!!! Floriano goasuraj Check-out the Road Map for Goa at www.goasu-raj.org - Look at "OUR DREAM" ; "OUR APPEAL" therein Be PROUD to be a GOAN. >Since I hear of only one NRI > association in Goa, run by Jerome Mendes, it would be > nice if this body takes the responsiblity of posting a > petition on the www.petitiononline.com. >.. > Eugene Correia - Original Message - From: "Eugene Correia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: [Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts > -- > Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of >Mapusa of the 1950s > > http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 > -- > Here are some afterthoughts. As for hockey in Goa, it > was the late Aniceto Fernandes, founder of Goan > Sports, who formed and promoted both the men's and > women's association. One of the charges against him > was that he was based in Mumbai and running the sport > from Mumbai. However, it was Govind S. Waglo who more ... _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] BABUSH MONSERRATE TO TAKE OVER REINS OF GPCC
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- --- sunil monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...if Babush could rock Parrikar Govt. then he can > rock this Govt. too and Goenkars may have to go to > polls again. > Mario replies: > Sunil, I think what we need is for Babush to experience an epiphany, so that his rocks are aimed at making Goa a better and safer place. > Sunil writes: > > Your opinion on this subject would be appreciated. > Why don't you do me a favour as a Goenkar Bhau if > you have his contact or email address please > pass on this to him, would be of (Vhoddlo Favor)I > don't want to bore you with Sermao so keeping this > mail as short as possible . > Mario replies: > I don't have Babush's permission to disclose his personal e-mail address or phone number. As you can see he and I are on a first-name basis:-)) > However, for me to print and send him your e-mail would not make a good or serious impression. After all he is a political giant-killer. But if you can send me your suggestions in an attached WORD file, and keep your comments respectful and constructive, I'll see what I can do to get it to the great-one's attention. > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense!
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Hello goanetters, We should know by now, that "Goa's appalling Road Sense" is just a mirror of India's (Mario Goveia's Super Power to be?) appalling Road Sense and all the other Nonsense in India. This is true Integration indeed! Jaipur goes as the Indian city with the largest number of animals on the road! Goa is emulating fast! We have cows and stray rabid dogs galore on the roads and on the Beaches, around restaurants, and garbage dumps in our towns and villages; Because Humans do not have road sense, these animals are allowed to 'Claim' our road space which has failed to keep up. Open and overflowing garbage Bins? and dumps near schools and bus stations and even next to police stations, like in Margao. Spitting, shitting anywhere and everywhere is the hallmark, all over India and whilst this nonsense was at least under control, during the Portuguese regime; it is now hopelessly out of control; what with the thousands of non Goan Indians habituated to this nonsense, pouring into Goa for work or as tourists. As for Road Sense, be it for drivers or pedestrians, the less said the better. It is awful, and this part of 'sense' as well as 'civic sense' prevailing in India is due to our ancient Culture which fails to evolve into modern and keep up with the times. Goa's Traffic Cops! They are corrupt! They are not knowledgeable enough either, and they have not the acumen to try and bring discipline on the roads and enfoce the law. They complain of shortage of staff and whatever, only after they are found to be not doing their work. Why do these cops not bring out a list of shortages and learn about modern traffic management etc. Do they or the GOG have any sort of Plan or Statergy to combat the indiscipline and the continual breaking of the law, on our roads? NO, but WHY? I was shocked to read about the traffic cop saying that there is no policing of road traffic after dark!!! This is a horrendous lapse of duty; at night when most accidents and other traffic offenses are taking place regularly; there should be more policing by night, until the situation is brought under control. But No! looks like our cops have to go and have their drink? and or collect their haptha? This use of one headlight is not something new or rare; it has become a part of life for many a truck and Van owners and drivers; Is this is the real 'INCREDIBLE INDIA" that India is advertising abroad? Is it? I would hope not. And we find the cops not doing anything about it. Why! Is it not their 'DUTY' to uphold the law and prevent accidents? The cops very well know who the offenders are. Why are their vehicles not impounded and fined until compliance? I have seen almost all 'Water Tankers' plying on Goa's roads driven with no 'rear lights' at all! Non dipping and using high beam continuosly and one eyed trucks and cars too, are almost the norm rather than rare! What a state of affiars! INCREDIBLE INDEED! So what is the Solution? This is not easy! We have to start from teaching the Traffic Cops, the Driving Teachers, the polis and the public about road sense from the 'ABC' the very begining! There is no other way! All drivers must carry their photo driving license at all times, no excuses! and must be issued with driving rules from the begining; and properly trained and made to understand the implications of the rules and the importance of observing these in letter and spirit. All drivers including those already with a valid license should be made to compulsorily undergo, Driving classes, where theory and rules are re-taught and given a Video demonstation of 'Driving' and allied road sense and road types etc. New drivers should be strictly graded into 'probationary, interim and full license. Those without a 'Full License' should be barred from driving at night and also on the (so called) Highways! All owners of cars and other vehicles should be checked for having a drving license. One will quickly find so many driving without even having a license. These drivers should be fined Rs 1000/- and their vehicles impounded. These measures and more are of utmost neccessity, if there is going to be some sanity on the roads. Not forgetting those many interstate drivers! All vehicles entering and leaving Goa should be compulsorily checked for vehicle safety, lights and driving license etc. In this case also. non compliance should result in impounded vehicles at least for two days. these harsh measures are neccessary to bring about discipline and compliance. Otherwise 'Incredible Indi
[Goanet] Road accidents... an interesting discussion
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sidB6 -- That was an interesting discussion over road accidents in Goa. Eddie Fernandes' story was particularly insightful and well-narrated. Corruption in the RTO is a given; how that needs to be tackled is a more serious and difficult issue. But what exactly is the role played by this factor? Is it a major factor in causing the crisis of Goa having such a high accident rate (never mind that police are each year claiming that the figures are improving!)? Is it just one of the contributing factors? Or, are other factors more important? For instance, there's this strange case near our home, on the CHOGM Road that leads from Porvorim to the North Goa beach-belt. Even since the road was re-hotmixed and divided into a two-lane role, the improved road (probably because it encourages speeding) seems to have become more accident-prone. While one may be guilty of going by episodic evidence, this does appear to be the case. Just recently, the Arpora parish priest was killed on the road (in a case where a family driving in a car and a scooterist, both neighbours, were also hit). In a separate case, another tourist was killed by one of those giant concrete mixers that, taking advantage of the real estate boom (and the NRI willingness to invest their money to further concretise Goa) keep plying from the Pilerne industrial estate to all points in North Goa and beyond, knocked down and killed a tourist near the Sangolda chapel. What do you see as the major contributing factors in Goa's accident rate? Maybe someone like Valmiki, who kicked off this important debate (thank god, no 1961-obsession for a change in the resulting posts) could intervene and take the issue forward. Such debates are not just useful to contemporary but also give us useful new insights. Some of the factors that seem to be accentuating the problem: * Lack of policemen on most of Goa's roads for most time of the day. * Police diverted for VIP (and other unessential duty), claims of police shortage, inspite of the massive police expansion by the Parrikar government. * Corruption among RTO. * Hardly any breathalyzer tests -- pressure of the tourism/entertainment/alcohol lobby? * Large number of drivers not familiar with the state's geography (visitors, expats, tourists) * Lack of adequate training at driving-school level. * Fixed rate for training of driving (as pointed out by Eddie). * Influx of hi-power bikes, cars with powerful pick-up speeds, zero-to-seventy-in-seven-seconds * Add your comments to the list here... FN -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/popular-views/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Name calling, cyber space, Donna Lisabeths dropping hem line and the Goan Kokno!
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sidB6 -- Beg to differ Donna Lisabeth. Cyber space is not exactly a walk through your coconut fringed batt in Betim; its a place where folks are invisible and a place where one can rant endlessly, where the difference is between bandwidth and the long and endless Sarzora bhand! Yes, agreed that a few exchanges with name calling and "masala" would be fun if they have literary merit/readable no? All one reads is posts in N*vhind Times English. Exchanges like those on The Well of the old days (well.org) would bring a breadth of fresh air. Or the beautifully crafted writing on football by James Lawton (www.independent.co.uk) ...which is pure football porn: be it critique of Alex Ferguson or the sublime foot-poetry of Ronaldinho. What I am saying is yes, there is nostalgia that hold us together but maybe we need to raise the bar a bit, step out of the cesspool, of calling names, correcting minor details or getting back at others in labored English. Are we going to keep writing on days gone by (would be nice) but will we just lay back and slowly loose our unique culture, our history, our unique way of life that the rest of India envy...do we have a vision of a future? Does Goa have a future? Its bleak to me? Or is it just building a ghastly new house with a few bucks made sucking up to some Arab in Dubai? (apologies, this is a terrible thing to say but this is reality, no). Goan Kokno story: the Dunkat family that once lived in Majorda above the Musson football ground surrounded by a sea of Catholic families and never once was there a hint of mis-trust nor ill-feeling, religious difference, nada! Nor with any other Hindu families in the surrounding villages. You want communal harmony, you had it till some crude and vision-less politician changed in the Goan psyche forever, drew a line, cut a deep un-repairable division.(so what if this man went to a univ in the US?). Maybe it happened before him; I doubt. Yes indeed, Goa of the old was a place of harmony, it was beautiful on many different ways...where the all the surrounding vaddos called the mother of the Dunkat house Aayee and boys got together with the rest to steal Donna Teodolinas ripe and juicy jackfruit. I imagine the only mis-trust that existed would be cast based or perhaps in Bardez? Emmm wonder what the hot and about gurls Mater Dei, Saligao be saying of this? *wink wink* Pandurang _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- - Original Message From: Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Here are some afterthoughts. As for hockey in Goa, it was the late Aniceto Fernandes, founder of Goan Sports, who formed and promoted both the men's and women's association. Goa never had a real hockey scene. It was the Africanders who made efforts to get the game going with six a side tourneios. On and off there was some league games. There were also summer camps conducted by a NIS coach called Red Ant from Guirim. The best performance by a Goan junior team was probably in 78. BC _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 500 Years for Goencho Saib (V M de Malar)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- 500 Years for Goencho Saib By V M de Malar Today marks the 500th birth anniversary of Goencho Saib, the sainted Francis Xavier of Navarre. The sixteenth-century Basque Spaniard led a fateful life at the forefront of European Christian expansion into Asia, and is widely credited by the Catholic Church for having converted more people than anyone else since the disciple Paul. By the time of his death in China at the age of forty-six, Xavier had dramatically reoriented his Jesuits to become the most powerful instrument of Christianization in Asia (including at home base here in Goa). Far beyond, the entire Church responded to his call and direction; the popular Internet encyclopedia Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org) says, "the entire systematic and aggressive incorporation of great masses of people on broad lines of policy by the Roman Catholic Church in modern times dates back to Xavier." There is considerable irony in the fact that this highly conservative European missionary has become a sort of all-purpose, supremely accessible saint long after his death. For it is painfully clear that Xavier would have been disgusted by the syncretic appeal that rapidly developed after his interrment. The Spaniard was a hard case, a genuinely uncompromising fanatic who vociferously disapproved of every aspect of hybridity in the Indo-European culture that sprung up in this first colonial outpost of the West in Asia. He scornfully refers to converted Goans in his letters as "half-baked" and "semi- pagan", and continually bemoans the alleged loose morality of settled Portuguese. And then, of course, he was a fervent booster of the Inquisition from the very beginning. He worked in its offices in Lisbon, before setting off for Asia, and it is due to his personal appeal that the dreaded tribunal was established in Goa (several years after Xavier's death) to inflict a regime of horrific terror and ethnic cleansing that lasted more than 250 years. Of that black period, an Archbishop of Evora said, "If everywhere the Inquisition was an infamous court, the infamy, however base, however vile, however corrupt and determined by worldly interests, it was never more so than in Goa." By the time it was finally lifted, under strong British pressure during the Napoleonic wars, almost 14,000 unfortunates had been subjected to grotesque tortures calculated to prolong misery and force confessions with many of them burned at the stake. The population at large was at the mercy of constantly changing, arbitrary and humiliating laws, and hundreds of thousands of Goans simply fled (Catholics and Hindus alike) to permanently alter the demographics of the surrounding areas. Despite that unquestionably bloody record, there is something profoundly moving about Xavier's sincere veneration by an overwhelming number of Goans of all faiths. This amazing intermingling is particularly apparent at the time of Exposition, when more than half of those who line up to pay respects are non- Christians, but it's easily witnessed on any given day in front of that marvelously wrought casket that was carved in Italy by Foggini, and donated to Bom Jesus by a Duke of Tuscany who happened to be the last of the Medicis. In one of those quintessentially Indian magic tricks, the uncomfortable reality of Xavier's life and deeds has been absorbed and adapted, the hard edges worn down into something more palatable and acceptable. The European fanatic has become a Indian Pir. Goa's eminent and pioneer historian, Dr. Teotonio de Souza (Universidade Lusofona, Portugal) says "Fatima is a parallel case", that "myths once created and sustained systematically acquire a dynamic of survival." In an exclusive e- mail interview earlier this week, he wrote about Xavier's legacy - "It is not the direct personal impact of Francis Xavier that can be considered significant but the orientation he provided to the Society of Jesus in Asia his insistence in training the native catechists to collaborate in missionary efforts was part of this orientation, later picked up by the Propaganda Fide to balance the white European colonial missionary methods." It's in death, and through centuries of popular practice, that Xavier has become much more significant, much more popular and far more respected, a powerfully Goan story that tells us much more about ourselves than about that half-forgotten idiosyncratic Basque. Is he really Goencho Saib? Yes, absolutely. Not by imposition or edict, but entirely by choice, an eternal triumph of India's ancient
[Goanet] Goa news for April 7, 2006
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** THE LIGHTS GOA OUT ON FREDDIE'S REVIVAL MISSION (Daily Mirror) THEY hung Freddie Flintoff from scaffolding high above Goa at England's latest one-day debacle - even if he was only advertising bottled water on huge banners draped over the floodlight pylons. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/topstories/tm_objectid=16900234&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=the-lights-goa-out-on-freddie-s-revival-mission-name_page.html *** UN urges Goa to end plans for premarital HIV tests on couples (Financial Express) The head of the United Nations Aids programme in India has recently urged the state of Goa to abandon controversial plans to force marrying couples to undergo compulsory testing for HIV. http://www.financialexpress-bd.com/index3.asp?cnd=4/5/2006§ion_id=4&newsid=20776&spcl=no *** India State Of Goa To Proceed With Plan To Require HIV Tests For Marriage (Medical News Today) The government of the Indian state of Goa plans to proceed with its plan to require couples registering for marriage to undergo HIV tests, the Hindu reports (Hindu, 4/1). The government of Goa last month announced that it plans to amend the Goa Public Health Act to require HIV testing for couples wishing to marry... click link for more info. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=40997&nfid=rssfeeds *** CM delegation to meet PM (Deccan Herald) Chief Minister H D Kumaaraswamy on Thursday agreed to lead an all-party delegation to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to seek release of 7.56 tmc ft of water by Goa from Mahadayi river to Karnataka, for drinking water purposes. http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/apr72006/state191512200646.asp *** Goa ODI: Ind beat Eng by 49 runs (IBN live) Margao/New Delhi: It's party time for Team India as they clinched the Goa ODI against England, making it the third consecutive ODI victory of the series. http://www.ibnlive.com/cricket/cricarticle.php?id=7697§ion_id=5 *** Wipro Peripherals to put up shop in Goa (Navhind Times) Margao, April 6: Wipro Peripherals Ltd (WeP), one of the largest employee owned companies in India plans to set up a BPO in Goa. However, this BPO does not read out as Business Process Outsourcing, but instead as Business Printing Outsourcing. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=040710 *** Enough drinking water to meet Goas needs: Dhavalikar (Navhind Times) Panaji, April 5: The PWD Minister, Mr Ramkrishna Dhavalikar today refuted the allegations of the leader of the opposition, Mr Manohar Parrikar and added that there is sufficient drinking water in the state to meet Goas needs till June end. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=040640 *** Bring white paper on Sanvordem riots, says Milli Council (Navhind Times) Panaji, April 6: The All India Milli Council has demanded that the government of Goa must bring out a white paper telling the people the truth about the communal violence in the twin towns of Sanvordem and Curchorem. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=040748 *** Goa has potential to (Navhind Times) Panaji, April 4: Dean Jones, the flamboyant Australian batsman who was one of the most successful member of the Aussie team in the one-day international circuit during the 1980s, predicted that Goa has a potential to become one of the major cricket playing venues in the country, if the cricket boards around the world decide to juxtapose the cricket matches with the tourist destination status of http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=040527 *** England beaten in Goa (ITV.com) England have lost the third one-day international against India by 49 runs. Andrew Flintoff's team were set a victory target of 295 but they lost opening batsmen Andrew Strauss for seven, Ian Blackwell for nine and Owais Shah for seven as they slumped to 47 for three. http://www.itv.com/news/1833014.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Atheism
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Hi Elizabeth Many thanks for a very thoughtful post. Your views echo mine closely. I am rushed for now but just want to say that there is sociological evidence that the more religious people are more racist. On this point, I have personally noted that secular Britain is much more tolerant of ethnic minories than the intensely Catholic Eastern Europeans. I also find it hypocritical for some people to be crooked as hell (e.g. deviously avoiding paying legitimate taxes etc ) and then 'devoutedly' going to confession/communion every weekend! What a farce! Will save further comments for some time later. Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: "Elisabeth Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Atheism -- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Dear Cornel, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on this subject. I am a closet agnostic. I am too afraid to "out" myself in certain circles and in other more open-minded circles, I am quite vocal about my views. I have always found that people who are more accepting of the different shades of humanity are a more kinder, gentler people,than those that condemn one to eternal hell fire for one's beliefs. Like you, I despise evangelism. Be it in the form of mullahs who insist on beheading Muslims who have converted to Christianity (as in Afghanistan), or preachers from the Bible belt in the US who claim that only those who believe in Jesus are to be "saved" while the rest of us, have a free pass for the place slightly lower down. I even despise the subtle conversions that occur in places like India and Africa. That is in exchange for "food and shelter". Another thing that bothers me is this new brand of Christianity, which engages in "healings", "tongues" and other esoteric "gifts". Not only is it misleading to offer the physically sick hope, but unfounded hope is even more dangerous. There is no difference between a religious healing of this sort and a witchdoctor in tribal Africa. Both are intent on just one thing. Procuring power!! At the best of times, for me, religion is a medium to one's spirituality. It should lead one to independence and not into a state of being in - dependence. elisabeth --- My short answer however is that I could never justify aggression and evangelism based on ideology of any kind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Re: How much emigration of the well to do tookplacefromGoa?
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Gabriel Agreed. But of course, it depends on where the journey starts in Salcete or Bardez to get to Marmagoa. From the bottom end of Salcete, the journey always seemed impossibly long for me. Anyway I note your corrective and say thanks. Cornel - Original Message - From: "Gabriel de Figueiredo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:20 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Re: How much emigration of the well to do tookplacefromGoa? -- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- --- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One other factor was perhaps the proximity of Marmagoa harbour to Bardez which made it easier for men to find work on ships, travel abroad and even jump ship in foreign lands. Cornel, Marmagoa (or Mormugão as it was known then) is closer to Salcette than it is to Bardez :-)). Bardez-kars have to go across to Ilhas thence to Mormugão. An interesting map: http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/india/map-goa.html Cheers, Gabriel. On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Broken Peace, a fact-finding report offers hard-talk on Curchorem
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- BROKEN PEACE, A FACT-FINDING REPORT OFFERS HARD-TALK ON CURCHOREM By Frederick Noronha fred at bytesforall.org 'Broken Peace' is the name of the just-released fact-finding report into last month's Curchorem anti-Muslim violence. It has been done by a team headed by Nandita Haksar, Supreme Court lawyer and prominent human rights campaigner. Haksar, who ruffled some feathers at a media launch on Thursday evening with her blunt talk, is the co-author of 'The Delhi Riots: Three Days In The Life Of A Nation' that indicted Congress politicians for playing communal anti-Sikh games in the aftermath of the assassination of Indira Gandhi. For some years now, this gutsy campaigner has been a resident of Chorao, in Tiswadi/Ilhas. Some might know her as the daughter of P.N. Haksar, a prominent figure in shaping part of post-Independence India. But with her sharp legal acumen, she's willing to fight for the underdog when most others won't. Fr a change, Goa's secular lobby has responded fairly rapidly -- even if a tighter edited report could carry more weight -- to the growing and systematic hiked-up communalisation of life here in recent years. We've long had low-intensity communalism, whether during the MGP-UGP days or in times of Portuguese theocracy and intolerance. Or even during the early phase of the colonial conversion zeal. But the recent spurt has been slowly built up, not adequately studied, and probably more shocking in a supposedly secular state. Haksar and her team undertook this report on behalf of the All India Milli Council -- a common platform of the Muslims of India. Interestingly, she writes: "I learnt that the Milli Council had requested me, because the Government of Goa had refused to accept the demand of the Goan Muslims organisations for a judicial enquiry into the whole incident." Haksar did the 49-page report (with a thick set of annexures) together with three others. On the team was Vinod K Jose (an award-winning young radio journalist working for the alternative radio in the US, reporting on how the 'war on terrorism' has been used to erode the human rights of the citizen), editor of Lankesh Patrike weekly from Bangalore Gauri Lankesh and editor Bilidale Eesha of the Guide, a Kannada magazine, who has also been active in the movement against communalism. It's findings would come as a shock to most oblivious to the actual situation. >From the nineties, Muslims, in Goa, have been systematically denied human rights guaranteed under the Indian Constitution, says this report bluntly. "Attacks on mosques have been violent, including setting on fire a mosque at Porvorim during the Ramzan month and burning of pages of the Quoran some three years back, a hand grenade was thrown at a mosque in Mardol, Ponda and the floor mats were set on fire. Muslims were made to abandon a mosque in Sanquelim," it adds. There are more 'disputes' being raised over mosques, as those reading the local papers -- specially the regional language press -- would be aware. This team says it was "shocked to learn" that in the majority of the mosques, there is no azaan (call-to-prayer) over the loudspeaker. For instance, in Chimbel, a settlement largely of Muslims, the loudspeaker is connected to speakers in the homes, so that the azaan can be heard inside the homes but not disturb non-Muslims. "Our attempt in this fact finding was to try and understand the root causes of the communal violence. Therefore, although we interviewed many victims of the violence, we have not documented the pain, suffering and loss felt by the Muslims (of Curchorem)," she writes. Some points that come out strongly in the report: o An attack on the mosque at Guddemol cannot be explained without an understanding of the rise of communal politics in Goa. o Without going into the historical roots of this communalism, we cannot begin to understand how the Goan society and state have tolerated attacks on mosques in Goa and the culprits who instigate such attacks and the people who actually damaged or demolished these mosques have not been punished. o According to Ramesh Gauns, school-teacher and long-term fighter for secular values, the Hindutva lobby has organised a base in both the pro-Marathi and pro-Konkani supporters. (RSS chief and educationist) Subhash Velingker, a spokesman for Marathi, always delivers his speeches in Konkani. Moreover, Velingkar has a regular column in the only Konka
[Goanet] This can happen only in India!
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- From the Times of India Arrest warrant against Baichung Bhutia [ Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:37:23 pmIANS ] KOLKATA: An arrest warrant was issued on Thursday against Indian soccer captain Baichung Bhutia after he failed to appear before a court in West Bengal to identify a "thief" who stole his luggage in 2002. Sadhan Mondal, first judicial magistrate of Howrah, directed the police in Salt Lake to produce Bhutia before his court May 20. "It's really humiliating to get arrested for getting back my belongings lost in transit while returning from a tournament a couple of years back," a peeved Bhutia told a hurriedly called press conference here. "I, however, do not have any official communication on it. I came to know about it only from the media. What kind of system is this?" he asked. "I heard that the luggage had been recovered but might be lying with the police. A few weeks ago, an officer came to me carrying the summons issued by the court. "I regretted my inability to turn up on the given date owing to my professional commitment. The police officer asked me to confirm it in writing on the back of the summon letter. "I did it. But at that point I did not know it was illegal and this is what I have to face," Bhutia said. The ace striker had lost his luggage on the Howrah-Chennai Coromandel Express train on October 31, 2002 and a case was lodged then. A person named Harekrishna Ghorui was arrested on the charge of stealing the luggage and Bhutia was summoned several times to depose when the court heard the matter. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Second rate European country - but not for long
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- --- Henrique Salles da Fonseca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr. Mário Gouveia: > > Don't be afraid of this second rate european > country, we have no more hegemonic psychoses. > > However, a citizen of this second rate european > country is the President of the EU. > > In the between, we know where our problems are and > diagnosis has been discussed by democratic means. > The new development model of the portuguese economy > is starting now and "You ain't seen nothing yet" > (Ronald Reagan said when he ran for President). > Mario replies: > Henrique, As I have said publicly, I love Portugal and the Portuguese people. Nothing would please me more than for Portugal to become the leading economy in Europe, since a part of my culture and identity, and my very name, derives from Portugal. > As you are aware the larger economies of the EU like Italy, France and Germany have been fairly stagnant for some time with double digit unemployment rates. However, if Portugal is able to follow the steadfast Reagan principles of low taxes and smaller government, but avoid the excess government spending he was unfortunately unable to control, I have no doubt that "We ain't seen nothing yet!" > Good luck, my friend. > Mario > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Atheism
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- - Cornel DaCosta writes: > Mario > I will try hard to avoid being personal even when you invariably tend to be. > Mario observes: > That's very humanist of you, Cornel:-)) It would represent a nice change from your last post addressed to me on this thread which contained several highly patronising and subjective epithets and attempted insults. Let's eschew the "pot calling the kettle black" routine, shall we? > Cornel writes: > Firstly, it would have been wiser if you had asked me first if I was an atheist before assuming so and stating this unambigously in your post to Goanet. > Mario observes: > Does this mean you are NOT an atheist? > Cornel writes: > Incidentally, one totally unexpected consequence of your assertion about me was that, I received unwittingly, a number of pleasant private posts from a potential 'fraternity' of Goan atheists and agnostics! I would never have known there were a number --so thank you! > Mario asks: > Now I'm confused. Does your obvious delight at being feted by "potential" Goan atheists - whatever that means - means you ARE an atheist? > Cornel writes: > Secondly, any attachment to a creed, belief system, or religion is a personal matter. I would never ask you publicly or pointedly what your religion was and the same 'rule' ought to apply to you too. > Mario answers: > I agree. I will withdraw my question about whether you are an atheist or not, since it obviously causes you to become a philosophical pretzel. You, however, can go ahead and ask me anything. BTW, I don't recall this thread starting by ME asking YOU whether you were an atheist. > Cornel writes: > Thirdly, if you want to equate humanism to atheism that is up to you. I have no desire to address the subtle difference on this matter apart from drawing your attention to two definitions from my readily available Collins English Dictionary: > Humanism = a school of philosophy that believes in human effort and ingenuity rather [note carefully, not instead of] than religion. 2. a cultural movement of the Renaissance based on classical studies. 3. Interest in the welfare of people. > Mario observes: > Since "human effort and ingenuity" and "Interest in the welfare of people" are perfectly compatible with being religious, I think I can safely conclude from the word "rather" and not "instead of" that one CAN be a religious humanist. Or are the differences too subtle for a religious barbarian like me, who believes in human effort and ingenuity and is interested in the actual welfare of people, not just the sentiment? > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] BABUSH MONSERRATE TO TAKE OVER REINS OF GPCC
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Mario Comments:Unless Babush is a member of Goanet, I suggest you re-type this letter on your letterhead and post it to him. I'm sure he would appreciate your learned and heartfelt suggestions:-)) On your comments , it means nothing , it just reads three things, letter head, babush not member of GOAnet and his appreciation on my suggestions.I don't intend nor 'm seeking any appreciation from Babush, its my opinion that if Babush could rock Parrikar Govt. then he can rock this Govt. too and Goenkars may have to go to polls again. Your opinion on this subject would be appreciated. Why don't you do me a favour as a Goenkar Bhau if you have his contact or email address please pass on this to him , would be of(Vhoddlo Favor)I don't want to bore you with Sermao so keeping this mail as short as possible . Dev borem korum Sunil Monteiro _ How good are you in a Formula One car? Play now http://server1.msn.co.in/sp05/tataracing/onlinegame.asp _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants & OCI status
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- --- Araujo Jose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mario, > > Personal experience makes one wise, if you wanna > experience try this receipe. Carry two passports > one indian and other European or /East African > or any other african country check Produce all of > them in a jumbled order the immigration authorities > at any airport, he's gonna pick Indian Last. > Mario observes: > Hey, Jose, One of the reasons I love Portugal is that all the Portuguese seem to have Goan Catholic surnames:-)) In Portugal, they even named a village after my family:-)) > Who am I to question your personal experience? However, I don't believe any US Immigration official would pick the Indian passport last - just the opposite, because his physician, friend's or relative's physician, his old professor, childrens's school teacher or professor, children's school or college mate and head of the class, local storekeeper, local hotelier, etc. is highly likely to be an Indian. > You talk about "patriotism" but seem to carry a bunch of different passports, which I find curious. > Though I have repeatedly said that I love modern Portugal and the Portuguese people, I have long since made my choice of a citizenship, so I will not be applying for a Portuguese passport anytime soon. As soon as my 10 year visa runs out I will also apply for the OIC Passport, simply because it would allow me to stay in India for more than 6 months at a time. > For those who qualify for a Portuguese passport and think it will benefit them, by all means apply. I don't know if it will help you, but I don't think it will hurt you. Besides, Portuguese Goanetter Henrique Salles da Fonseca says that Portugal is on it's way to becoming an economic force in Europe, and I told him I would be very pleased if they did. > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] GOA: Property Stamp duty further reduced to 2%
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- This is further to my recent Goa Budget's Highlights.. GOA: Property Stamp duty further reduced to 2% Earlier, it was 5% Then 2.5% (at the time of recent Goa budget) And now just 2%. That means, on a property value Rs.10,50,000, one will have to pay about Rs.21,000 towards stamp duty. But most parties, to avoid tax burden (stamp duty & income tax) less value is declared for mutual benefits. e.g. if a property is valued say Rs.10,00,000, only 7 lakhs is declared so that stamp duty worked out on Rs. 7 Lakhs only and the balance of 3 lakhs is paid cash to the builders/sellers. This practise is very common in Goa/India thus causing a great loss to the state Treasury. When buying flats (in a block of flats), stamp duty is paid lot less. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Missed a Golden Opportunity
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- FYI, Nortel's biggest project was for Reliance infocom..the reliance mobile network in India. It has its office in mumbai and most of Nortel's top most engg. executives are Indians now settled in Canada.. Regards Edward Verdes > Nortel revamps services business to drive growth > By Sue Thomas > > TORONTO (Reuters) - Nortel Networks Corp. (NT) said on Monday it had revamped its services business to propel growth as it unveiled a big services contract with Bharti Tele-Ventures, India's largest mobile phone operator. Nortel, North America's biggest telecommunications equipment provider, said it had signed a five-year deal to provide call center services for Bharti, which has a more than 22 percent market share of the mobile phone market in India. Nortel would not disclose the terms of the deal, but Curt Hopkins, Nortel's global services vice-president of sales and marketing, described it as "significant. It is quite sizable." > GL adds: > Is Bharti throwing a lifeline to Canada's largest IT industry? > Regards, GL _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Konkan Railway to observe *Monsoon Time Table* effective 10 Jun 2006
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sidB6 -- See http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_monsoon_050406.htm 05/04/2006 PRESS RELEASE Monsoon Time Table to be effective on Konkan Railway from 10th June, 2006 As was done last year, this year too Konkan Railway will implement special Monsoon Time Table on Konkan Railway route w.e.f 10th June '06 to 31st October '06 to provide safe passage to trains during monsoon. Monsoon timings will come into effect from 10-06-2006 (i.e. train leaving from originating stations on 10-06-2006). Salient features: 1) Train No. 6337/6338 Okha-Ernakulam Bi-weekly express will be partially cancelled between Hapa-Okha-Hapa. 2) Train No. KR1/KR2 Mangalore-Verna Passenger train will be partially cancelled between Madgaon-Verna-Madgaon. 3) Departure time of the following trains will be preponed from the originating point. Train No. Preponed dep. a) KR4 Ratnagiri-Dadar passenger 05.30 hrs b) 0112 Madgaon-CSTM Konkankanya Exp.16.45 hrs c) 0104 Madgaon-CSTM Mandovi Exp 08.30 hrs d) 2620 Mangalore-LTT Matsyagandha Exp 12.10 hrs e) 2617 Ernakulam-Nizamuddin Mangala Exp 10.45 hrs 4) Departure time of Train No. 2449 Madgaon-NZM Goa Sampark Kranti Exp will be postponed to 12.30 hrs instead of 11.35 hrs. 5) Departure time of 2052 Madgaon-Dadar Janshatabdi express postponed to 12.20 hrs instead of current 1130 hrs -- Need a *Gmail* e-mail ID? Do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Atheism
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Cornel, Thanks. As you might have realized, my questions addressed issues much broader than atheism and religion. I was interested in highlighting inconsistencies in positions related to belief systems and ideologies, in general. Accordingly, aggressive evangelism would quite aptly refer to a war fought for ideological reasons, and to the means adopted in launching it. It would also describe forceful condemnation of ideologies other than one's own in a public forum. Yes, pacifist (not passive) evangelism would refer to what the Buddha and Ashoka did - preaching of atheism that has non-violence as its mainstay. Or of a political ideology, if one ropes in the Mahatma. It would also, in my estimation, refer to religious conversion by gentle persuasion and humble service, a la Mother Teresa. It might surprise you that I am not opposed to the latter types of evangelism, despite my long-standing irreligious stance. Conversion by persuasion is at the very crux of all human social interactions. It is what you and I are steeped in as educators. It is really only aggression in all its forms to which we have an aversion. Cheers, Santosh --- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Santosh >You do ask a demanding and interesting question but >I cannot go into it in any detail for now. My short >answer however is that I could never justify >aggression and evangelism based on ideology of any >kind. > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Airport modernisation: Govt signs agreement for creating JVs
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- http://www.ptinews.com/pti/ptisite.nsf/$All/775D86CA6941DCEB65257146002F46A5? OpenDocument Airport modernisation: Govt signs agreement for creating JVs New Delhi, Apr 4 (PTI) Overlooking opposition from the Left parties and airport employees, the government today signed two agreements to set up joint venture companies between Airports Authority of India and the GMR and GVK groups to hand over the Delhi and Mumbai airports for modernisation. "The OMDA and the shareholders agreements have been signed. The JV companies are in place", Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel told reporters after signing of the agreements. The OMDAs (Operations, Maintenance and Development Agreement) and the shareholders agreements were signed by AAI Chief K Ramalingam and AAI Director V D V Prasada Rao in the presence of Patel and Civil Aviation Secretary Ajay Prasad. Even as the agreements were being signed at the Ashoka Hotel here, the employees took out a procession and later staged a demonstration at the Ministry headquarters at Rajiv Gandhi Bhavan here. A large posse of police and CISF personnel were present to prevent any untoward incident. Responding to questions, Patel said the initial deposit of Rs 150 crore each would be paid by the two groups "within a week, following which the process of transition will take place". PTI _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Here are some afterthoughts. As for hockey in Goa, it was the late Aniceto Fernandes, founder of Goan Sports, who formed and promoted both the men's and women's association. One of the charges against him was that he was based in Mumbai and running the sport from Mumbai. However, it was Govind S. Waglo who more or less looked after the administrative side. Just to give the women's side, the players were not happy with the state of affairs. They approached Herculano Dourado to spearhead the opposition to the office-bearers and probably also to take over the association in the hope he would put the house in order. He couldn't do much because Shashikala Kakodkar was the president of the women's association. At least for some terms, the president of the men's was the director-general or the inspector-general of police, who is a freedom fighter and whose name escapes me now. It's ironic that Herculano is behaving more "dictatorial" that Aniceto was. So just as others who now want to kick-start hockehy in Goa and would also probably like someone else to take over the reins, they can't do much. Like Dourado is close to KPS Gill, Aniceto was close to late Kartar Singh who domminated India's women's hockey. In fairness to Aniceto, he did give hockey a push in Goa. But things deteriorated later on. Aniceto also played a big role in football with his very close relationship with Ziauddin, the AIFF secretary and also secterary of WIFA, and BM Parkhot and Unni. I met a couple of past women players and asked them what they feel now that the man that wanted to change the state of women's hockey has now ruined it. One of them was silent and the other just nodded her head. I have seen enough of Goa's sports, though not from close quarters. I had often had quarells with both Aniceto and Waglo. In fact, it was Kartar Singh who ruined my relationship with Aniceto. I and Aniceto never talked till his death. I paid a visit to his house on the day he died and also attended his funeral. Coming to Dourado, I feel the man could be more suited to sit on committees dealing with labour issues. But like many politicians, they have their fingers in different pies. In India, just as politics and religion make a heady mix, politics and sports is another giddy tonic. The NRI associations in Goa and Goan groups abroad, particularly in the Gulf, must demand a new set-up under Eduardo Faleiro. An online petition is one best way to start with. Since I hear of only one NRI association in Goa, run by Jerome Mendes, it would be nice if this body takes the responsiblity of posting a petition on the www.petitiononline.com. I am ready to draft one and sent to others who can want to take a look at it and make the necessary suggestions before posting it on the internet. Let's start the ball rolling. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re.Church sex abuse costs tripled in 2005
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Genuine Christian Witness - Bishop Percival Fernandez 'A Bhopal District court on Jan 19, 2005 acquitted a catholic priest of the Archdiocese of Bhopal who was accused of raping an employee of his school six months ago. The court quashed the case against Fr. Vincent Suares after cross-examining the victim, Premlata Singal, a school peon, who told the court that there was no such incident. "The truth has finally prevailed and I am extremely happy that the court has cleared the priest of all the false charges," Archbishop Pascal Topno told SAR News on Jan 24, 2005. He added that it was a trumped up case against the priest at the behest of some Hindu fundamentalist group. 'Fr. Suares, former Principal of St. Xavier Higher Secondry School run by the Archdiocese of Bhopal, was accused of raping Singal on June 30, 2004. On July 1, 2004, Singal lodged a complaint with the Govindapura Police that on June 30, 2004 at 4.00 pm, the Principal under the pretext of giving her salary called her to his office and tried to rape her. "There was no such incident of rape attempt," she told the court, which, after examining the witnesses, quashed the case and absolved the priest of all charges. "Archbishop Topno said that for administrative reasons the Hindu woman, who was transfered to St. Teresa Girls High School run by the Holy Cross nuns, wanted to take revenge against the Principal. But later, realizing her folly she retracted her statement. "Her two children still continue to study at the same St. Xavier Higher Secondary School and we are taking care that they are treated well," added the prelate." (Petrus of Mar 05) Let us re-read the last two lines of this report: "Her two children still continue to study at the same St. Xavier Higher Secondary School and we are taking care that they are treated well"! Three cheers for Christian principles! Three cheers for the authorities of St. Xavier H.S.School! Three cheers for all those who practise the values of forgiveness and love taught to us by Jesus throughout the Gospels! The TRAUMA that Fr. Vincent Suares and the Church in Bhopal had to undergo for a long year was difficult and painfull indeed, but the resultant determination to look after the children of the perpetrator of the mischief is GENUINE CHRISTIAN WITNESS! Comment: There may be many cases like these...does anyone pay compensation to the priests/Church? 'Varear ubloilolo kapus porto mevona' Dev borem korum Edward Verdes ___ - Original Message - From: "JoeGoaUk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: [Goanet] Re.Church sex abuse costs tripled in 2005 > RE:Church sex abuse costs tripled in 2005 > > > Just wondering how much the recent Macazana case must have cost Goa Church?? > (not in terms of money, offcourse.) > _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Ticket-Gate
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Can anyone expect anything better when DAYANAND NARVEKAR IS INVOLVED?? Come next election, mark my words, he will be elected once again, Never mind the Soccoro IT Park, Never mind the Ticket Gate, Never mind "Never Mind" itself. There is nothing wrong with Narvekar. He is the same. It is the people. THEY ARE THE LEMBDE who want him there to make money. in the hope that they will get something out of it. floriano goasuraj Check-out the Road Map for Goa at www.goasu-raj.org Short and Sweet Chapter X for Sports & Leisure - Original Message - From: "WILSON SOARES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Ticket-Gate > Last time it was the BJP Govt. when fraud took place. > Has the Congress Govt. learnt anything from that? Are > they going to hush hush the matter as well? I think > the ticket holders should get double the amount > at-least for the time lost and the transportation > costs etc. In other parts of the world, they (the > organizers) would probably be sued for a much bigger > chunk. > Peoples power will always work as long as you take > serious action on such matters but give some time for > the Govt. to wake up first. > > Wilson Soares _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 7th April FRIDAY BALCAO to focus on World Health Day theme
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ -- Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet, Friday Balcao the fortnightly discussion event to be held on 7th April on the occasion of World Health Day will focus on responses to the global health workforce crisis. The discussion will highlight the need for Health Workers, Managements & the Community to work together for health. Health workers - the people who provide health care to those who need it - are the heart of health systems. But around the world, the health workforce is in crisis - a crisis to which no country is entirely immune. The results are evident: clinics with no health workers, hospitals that cannot recruit or keep key staff. There is a chronic global shortage of health workers, as a result of decades of underinvestment in their education, training, salaries, working environment and management. This has led to a severe lack of key skills, rising levels of career switching and early retirement, as well as national and international migration. Solutions to this crisis must be worked out at local, national and international levels, and must involve governments, the UN, health professionals, non-governmental organizations and community leaders. There is no single solution to such a complex problem, but ways forward do exist and must now be implemented. Some developing countries have revised their pay scales and introduced non-monetary incentives to retain their workforce and deploy them in rural areas. Education and training procedures have been tailored to countries' specific needs. Community health workers are helping their communities to prevent and treat key diseases. Action must be taken now for results to show in the coming years. In Goa besides Goa Medical College which is manged by the Govt. there are the District & Cottage Hospitals, the Primary Health Centres (PHC)and the SubCentres all under the management of the Directorate of Health Services. There are also numerous Nursing homes, Hospitals and Clinics which are managed privately. What is the situation of the health workforce in Goa in terms of their education, training, salaries, work environment and management? How can the recently setup District Hospital Management Committees be effective in this context ? What role can the community play in the search for solutions ? The Balcao discussion will cover these questions and also evolve an agenda for action by citizens on the issue. Friday Balcao will be from 4pm to 6pm at the Goa Desc Resource Centre No.11 Liberty Apartments Feira Alta, Mapusa and is open to members of the public. We invite you to attend the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org - Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy === _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] DABOLIM (part 1)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- As long as the arabs have the money (oil)...Goans will have the time! Quoting from a bank newsletter Recent studies by world bank estimate that the expatriate remittance to India is around US $ 21.7 billion thus making it the highest in the world, ahead of China n Mexico and this comes mostly from Indians working in the Gulf Region where an estimated 4 million work. In Goa, after tourism the highest revenue comes from the gulfies n shippies. They invest their funds in Goa, as they are not able to invest in the place they work. Rgds Edward Verdes From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How long will Goans be able to move to the Mid-East in search of jobs? > Goans going beyond the Middle East now is nearly ended except perhaps to Portugal. > Kind Regards, GL _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] No Facing the Music
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_ Margao, April 6: All Goa Private Bus owners Association (AGPBOA) has unanimously taken a decision to get the stereo players in the buses dismantled, in order to give good service to passengers. This was causing nuisance to senior citizens. "To obey the conditions decreed by state government about wearing the uniform and issuing bus tickets without fail to commuters, we are now serious about all conditions and we will enforce them in our buses. Those who fail to obey will be fined by AGPBOA, as the members will inspect, " said general secretary of AGPBOA, Avinash Shirodkar, while speaking to this correspondent. On Wednesday, most routes across the state experienced the new hike of rates, which was passed recently by state govt. Though the fares were to take effect from April 1st, the AGPBOA had decided to implement the new fares after obtaining the table fare from local RTO office, which they have displayed in the buses. Forwarded by Edward Verdes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Driving in India
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- I found this in my e-mail archives. Source unknown. I think Coen Jukens - Cecil === In case you want to drive when you are next in India. Enjoy ... to Drive in India - as observed by an outsider This hilarious article was written by an Expert from Baan, Netherlands who spent two years in Hyderabad... --- Driving in India For the benefit of every Tom, Dick and Harry visiting India and daring to drive on Indian roads, I am offering a few hints for survival. They are applicable to every place in India except Bihar, where life outside a vehicle is only marginally safer. Indian road rules broadly operate within the domain of karma where you do your best, and leave the results to your insurance company. The hints are as follows: Do we drive on the left or right of the road? The answer is "both". Basically you start on the left of the road, unless it is occupied. In that case, go to the right, unless that is also occupied. Then proceed by occupying the next available gap, as in chess. Just trust your instincts, ascertain the direction, and proceed. Adherence to road rules leads to much misery and occasional fatality. Most drivers don't drive, but just aim their vehicles in the generally intended direction. Don't you get discouraged or underestimate yourself; except for a belief in reincarnation, the other drivers are not in any better position. Don't stop at pedestrian crossings just because some fool wants to cross the road. You may do so only if you enjoy being bumped in the back. Pedestrians have been strictly instructed to cross only when traffic is moving slowly or has come to a dead stop because some minister is in town. Still some idiot may try to wade across, but then, let us not talk ill of the dead. Blowing your horn is not a sign of protest as in some countries. We horn to express joy, resentment, frustration, romance and bare lust (two brisk blasts), or just mobilize a dozing cow in the middle of the bazaar. Keep informative books in the glove compartment. You may read them during traffic jams, while awaiting the chief minister's motorcade, or waiting for the rain waters to recede when over ground traffic meets underground drainage. Occasionally you might see what looks like a UFO with blinking colored lights and weird sounds emanating from within. This is an illuminated bus, full of happy pilgrims singing bhajans. These pilgrims go at breakneck speed, seeking contact with the Almighty, often meeting with success. Auto Rickshaw (Baby Taxi): The result of a collision between a rickshaw and an automobile, this three-wheeled vehicle works on an external combustion engine that runs on a mixture of kerosene oil and creosote. This triangular vehicle carries iron rods, gas cylinders or passengers three times its weight and dimension, at an unspecified fare. After careful geometric calculations, children are folded and packed into these auto rickshaws until some children in the periphery are not in contact with the vehicle at all. Then their school bags are pushed into the microscopic gaps all round so those minor collisions with other vehicles on the road cause no permanent damage. Of course, the peripheral children are charged half the fare and also learn Newton's laws of motion enroute to school. Auto-rickshaw drivers follow the road rules depicted in the film Ben Hur, and are licensed to irritate. Mopeds: The moped looks like an oil tin on wheels and makes noise like an electric shaver. It runs 30 miles on a teaspoon of petrol and travels at break-bottom speed. As the sides of the road are too rough for a ride, the moped drivers tend to drive in the middle of the road; they would rather drive under heavier vehicles instead of around them and are often "mopped" off the tarmac. Leaning Tower of Passes: Most bus passengers are given free passes and during rush hours, there is absolute mayhem. There are passengers hanging off other passengers, who in turn hang off the railings and the overloaded bus leans dangerously, defying laws of gravity but obeying laws of surface tension. As drivers get paid for overload (so many Rupees per kg of passenger), no questions are ever asked. Steer clear of these buses by a width of three passengers. One-way Street: These boards are put up by traffic people to add jest in their otherwise drab lives. Don't stick to the literal meaning and proceed in one direction. In metaphysical terms, it means that you cannot proceed in two directions at once. So drive as you like, in reverse throughout, if you are
[Goanet] Let's Play this Game: Test of Reasoning (it's all about Goa)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426 -- Let's Play this Game: Test of Reasoning (it's all about Goa) Try to complete the series/sequence by choosing one amongst the 4 possible answers. Here are 2 examples: e.g.1. Bombay, Banglore, Trivendrum,... A.Pune B.Kochin C. Panaji D. Karwar e.g.2. Rs.500, Rs.100, Rs.50 ... A.Rs.40 B.Rs.30 C.Rs.15 D.Rs.20 Ans: 1 What could be the right ans to complete the series or sequence ? Right Ans. would be C.Panaji Panaji being capital of Goa, so also Bombay to Maharastra, Bangalore to Karnataka & Trivendrum to Kerala. Ans.2 What could be the next (note) ? Ans: D Rs.20 Because currency notes in denomination of 500/100/50/20 Now, try to complete the rest as below: 3. Salcette, Mormagoa, Pernem,.. A.Margao B.Raia C.Quepem D.Varca 4. C Alvares, Jacinto Vaz, Robin Vaz... A.Prem Kumar B.M Boyer C.Remie Colaco D.Alfred Rose 5. Xacuti, cheurisam, Addmas,... A.Chicken Tikka B.Butter Chicken C.Sorpotel D.Mutton 6. Soirik, Mando, Bhikream Jevonn,.. A.Picnic B.Carnaval C.Fest D.Honey Moon 7. Boglantt, Nirmoll, Amchem Noxib,.. A.Sholay B.Ghantt C.Padri D.Socorin 8. Miramar, Colva, Baga,.. A.Porvorim B.Calangute C.Nuvem D.Ponda 9. Pinagr, Dodol, Bebinca,.. A.Jelobi B.Mysore Park C.Gulab Jamoon D.Neurio 10.Miguel, Mario, Eddie,.. A.Amitab B.Domnic C.Tom D. Harry 11.Tiracol, Aguad, Cabo de Rama,.. A.Velsao B.Chandor C.Reis Magos D.Cuelim 12.Cansaulim, Verna, Majorda,.. A.Dabolim B.Varca C.Benaulim D.Curtorim 13.National, Vishant, Alankar,... A.Inox B.GVN C.Lata D. Osia 14.Mangoes, Cajus, Jackfruits,.. A.Apples B.Grapes C.Water Melons D.Oranges. 15.Churchil, Barbosa, Sashikala,.. A.Felip Neri B.F.Silveira C.Ravi Naik D.Monte Cruz 16.Jusephine, Anotonete, Ophelia,.. A.Janet B. Annie C.Sabina D.Felcy 17.Manish, Amit, Sunil,... A.Mario B.Lucio C.Jilio D.Eusebio 18.St. Jancinto, Divar, Chorao,.. A.Lakshadwip B.Andaman C.Dona Paula. D.Anjediv 19.Damania, Konkan Shankti, Sarita,... A.Santa Monica B.Caravela C.Konkan Sevak D. Paradise 20.Betim, Tiracol, Betul,... A.Cortalim B.Utorda C.Nagoa D. Sancoale. That's it for now. Please come back even if you answer a few. Thanks for your support. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
