[Goanet] Goa, Goa gone -II

[D'Souza, Avelino]

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Goa, Goa gone - II
The Times of India 
Jug Suraiya
Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:47:15 pm

Goa was full of non-Goan property-hunters rushing about buying up the
place like tomorrow was an expired lease. But if Goa was full of these
people, they in turn were full of Goa. Property hunting is a tiring and
hungry-making business. 

After you've dashed from Uccassaim to Arpora where you've heard a plot
of land is going cheap, only to discover when you get there that the
elusive bit of real estate is actually down south near Colva, you
require sustenance more substantial than the repeated exhortation 'What
a fine sin-sinary' (Gujarati and north Indian tourist-speak for 'What
lovely scenery. 
Are we having fun yet?'). What you are in dire need of is lunch.  

Fortunately, Goa does a mean lunch. Not to mention dinner, breakfast,
elevenses, twelveses and in-betweenses. 
Indian food - the culinary avatar of the subcontinent's social history
presented on a platter - is without doubt the best food in the world. 
And Goan food - an engaging melange of Konkan spice and Portuguese
guile, with just a smoky hint of Africa - can lay claim to being among
the best regional candidates on the Indian menu. 

Alphonse de Albuquerque sailed up the Mandovi in 1510 and Goa became a
colony of Portugal, which it remained till 1961. With the first monsoon,
when the rain came thudding down in sheets, Alphonse must have found
time hanging heavy on his hands. 

He'd built a couple of protective forts at the mouth of the Mandovi,
established the settlement upriver. What was an empire-builder to do
next, dude? There were no ODIs to watch, no SMS to text buddies back in
Lisboa, no Sunday papers to read.

So Alphonse did the only thing he could. He invented the vindaloo.  Or
it might have been xacuti. Or maybe cafrial. Of course Alphonse didn't
actually invent any of these delectable things himself. 

He must have had masalchis and sundry lackeys to chop the onions and the
beef and the chicken, and ladle in the vinegar that gives Goan cuisine
its inimitable tangy flavour, and simmer it all over an unhurried fire
till the aromatic steam rose like a fragrant miasma, mingling with the
smell of rain and river and wet earth, a geography of the palate, the
creation of a country in a cooking pot. 

Goa's secret weapon which it uses so disarmingly against the new
land-grabbing conquistadores who are threatening to overrun it is food.
For the visitor, Goa can often be one long, extended meal, with
intermittent intervals of siesta to allow digestion to do its work. 

The day begins with the early morning tinkle of the breadman's bicycle
bell. Warm from the oven, the bread has a taxonomy all its own: There is
the cottonwool-soft pao, the wholemeal pui, the crusty brun. Impossible
to tell which one you like most; best eat all three. 

At breakfast the main topic of discussion is lunch. Lunch consists of
amotik (a sort of fish vindaloo, preferably made with shark) and
teesriyo, clams doused in garlic butter. Dessert is bebinca, a
cholesterol battering ram made with egg yolks, sugar, flour and gobs of
butter. 

The bebinca has yet to be cleared when plans are underway for dinner.
Should we have shrimp curry with rice or with sanas, made from a
fermented idli-like batter?

The debate inconclusive, we decide to have both. And to stave off hunger
pangs till dinner, there're always bolinghnas, plump cookies with just a
touch of grated coconut. 

After six days of this, I felt that Goa was growing on me, its growth
concentrated around my waistline. And I realised why property is booming
in Goa. It's a case of inelastic supply and elastic demand. 

There's only a fixed, or inelastic, supply of land in Goa. But the girth
of the land buyers - and the space they increasingly occupy - is
noticeably elastic, thanks to the local fare. I helped myself to a final
bolinghnas. And sod the property prices.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1483085.cms

~(^^)~

Avelino

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[Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense!(re Mario's comment)

[Chris Vaz]

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Nasci--

After reading your perspective, Goa/India does seem a difficult place 
especially to those who have been away for a while.  I have recently 
befriended a Goan of rather significant achievement who has been in the U.S. 
for only four years and he is completely turned off by what is happening 
back home, both in Bombay and Goa--the filth and, especially,  the 
corruption.  I have personally been a victim at the Indian Customs because I 
carried two bottles of booze instead of one (the duty-free shop told me that 
two bottles were allowed) and the customs officer was brazen enough to 
demand a bribe right in the open.  But my experience, I am told, is peanuts 
when compared to what the likes of Bal Thackeray's extortion of big business 
and the wealthy (what we here in the U.S. call "the achievers").
Your narrative, though painful to read nevertheless hits home-- though in 
our longing (and memories) for our dear land we prefer to pretend all is 
well.   I am confident good will eventually prevail--perhaps not in our 
lifetime.  Thanks for the honesty and the forthrightness.

Chris

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[Goanet] HAPPY EASTER and A BIG THANK YOU!

[domnic fernandes]

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Dear Goanetters,

Sogott Goenkarank mae-mogacho nomoskar ani toxich khuxealborit Paskanchi 
Porob! (Greetings to all Goans and a Happy Easter)!

Today marks the end of my 3-part series: "A Reminiscent Tour of Mapusa Town 
in the 1950's".  I hope you all liked it.

Every time I write an article, I receive scores of appreciation messages, 
most of them privately, which I have been sharing with Cecil Pinto, Gaspar 
Almeida of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Bosco D'Mello of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
I sincerely thank each and everyone for taking time to read my articles and 
especially for all the feedback.

It is my wish to forward whatever information I can recall from my memory on 
our Goan heritage and culture for the benefit of all, young and old.  Your 
love and support and appreciation messages mean a lot to me; they are the 
driving force behind my writing.

My articles are based on personal experiences.  The joys and pains I have 
been through during different phases of my life, including the transition 
period from the Portuguese regime to the Indian democratic rule.

The two main persons who encouraged me to write are Cecil Pinto and Gaspar 
Almeida.  It all started in July 2004 with my article "Ladain Xekddeanchi 
Sonskrutai" (Litany, tradition inherited since time immemorial) which was 
written in Konkani and translated in English.  Cecil, from Goa, praised my 
writing skills and forwarded the article to Gaspar in Kuwait with his 
recommendation to lend me as much support as he could.  Gaspar immediately 
telephoned me in Saudi Arabia, appreciated my article and assured me full 
cooperation.  He has since been distributing my articles with appropriate 
pictures through his extensive mailing lists and database of contacts.  The 
next person who has been very supportive and who also encouraged me to keep 
on writing is Bosco D'Mello.  These are the three main persons who have been 
instrumental in encouraging my writing.  Fred Noronha also played a role.  
When he informed me that my article 'ESMERALDA and "Starco" - a Landmark of 
Anjuna' which was also written in July 2004 was used for journalism classes, 
I felt flattered and motivated. But ultimately, it is you dear readers who 
made me what I am today; I wouldn't have achieved the fame had it not been 
for your recognition, feedback and continuous support.

Now that we have decided to go ahead with my book publication, I am 
confident we can count on your support.  I thank you all in advance.  God 
bless you.

May the Risen Lord guide us in our project!

Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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[Goanet] Re: A dog by any name still smells...

[George Pinto]

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Thanks Helga. I just noticed two spelling errors when I wrote "unfullfilled 
potentional". I meant
"unfulfilled potential".  Regards, George


--- Helga do Rosario Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah Cecil, Mopa is a great name for your pup! Then you can call him Mops or
> Moppie. There is so much you could do with Mopa - Good work George!
> Unless you want to go with the old classic 'Poppy'. I remember as a kid
> almost every other dog was called Poppy. These Poppies hung around in heaps
> and were sharp barkers.


--- George Pinto wrote: 
> If there is a dispute about ownership, call it 'Dabolim'. For promise made
> that might never be, call it 'Mopa'.  For unfullfilled potentional, call it 
> 'Goa'.  I am sure
> cyber-Goans can come up with creative names.

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[Goanet] PRE & POST 1961- OH TO BE IN GOA

[Araujo Jose]

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Congs. to Oscar & Hazel Lobo , for their contribution on the above subject i
must say i have atleast learnt things which i did not know .

Wish those writers who want it their way but can't have it  accept the fact
,that Portuguese were a decent nation and who did something to Goans is a
matter of appreciation  and PRE-1961 was better.

Araujo Jose

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[Goanet] cuncolim website

[Armstrong Augusto Vaz]

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hello friends 

cuncolim website inaguaration is fixed for sunday at cuncolim function.

neeraj will sent a detailed press note about the website inaguaration.

bye 

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[Goanet] NRI Association in Goa ?

[Vivian D'Souza]

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In response to Floriano's rather mischeivous  suggestion that I may be 
starting an NRI Association in Goa, which was also quoted in Eugene Correia's 
post today, let me state explicitly, categorically that this is not true, 
   
  I have retired, hung up my boots and am enjoying my retirement life in my 
bucolic village. Besides doing my wife's bidding,  I worry about my lawns, my 
trees and plants, my faithful dog and what fish we are going to have for the 
day's curry. I am also deeply and quietly involved in a number of social 
issues which do not need elaboration here. No time or inclination to start up 
anything.  I meet occasionally, socially, with other NRIs and returnees like 
me and the conversation often leads us to sharing our common experiences after 
returning to Goa.  And the conversation sometimes leads us to joining an NRI 
association, if there was one.

  Our one criteria is that the association be totally independent of the Goa 
government and if one can do so legally, remain un-registered as a loose 
informal group.  Our collective experience dealing with government officials, 
the NRI FC etc. has been less than pleasant.
   
  I seek unity, and want to see a single independent NRI Association formed in 
Goa, where members can share experiences and solutions, to assist returnees 
like me and NRIs abroad with issues that are unique to us.  I had listed a few 
issues that came to mind in a previous posting, and received several private E-
mails supporting my views. I know for a fact that Rene has no intention of 
starting a separate NRI association, so what is Floriano up to with these red 
herrings ??

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[Goanet] A memorable Friday afternoon - April 7, 2006

[George Pinto]

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I had the good fortune, pleasure and privilege of meeting Prof. Amartya Sen 
(Nobel Prize in
Economics 1998) while he visited Stanford University yesterday and where he 
discussed the late
John Rawls' attempt at a transcendental theory of justice. Prof. Sen offered 
his own view of
comparative theories of justice (with tremendous wit and humor I might add). 
Most memorable from
the lecture was another Nobel Prize winner, Prof. Kenneth Arrow (1972), 
standing up at the end and
asking Prof. Sen a question. I almost fell off my chair watching this rare 
sight of one Nobel
prize winner questioning another.

After the lecture I invited Prof. Sen for tea which he kindly accepted as he 
had an hour or so
before attending his wife's guest lecture, also at Stanford University. I asked 
him what was his
biggest challenge in setting up his non-profit in India with his Nobel prize 
money. If I
understood him correctly, he said 'project management'. I told him that was my 
experience too in
Goa - there is no shortage of good people with good intentions and good causes 
but
administratively NGO's in Goa lack the operational efficiencies I see in the 
West, particularly
the USA (that is a topic all by itself). 

I mentioned his inclusion as #8 in the Global Intellectuals Poll. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_2005_Global_Intellectuals_Poll. Although he 
belongs on that list,
I am not sure why Milton Friedman (some of whose views I disagree with) did not 
initially show up
and media people like Tom Friedman and Paul Krugman (also an economist but 
better known as a NYT
columnist) do.

Prof. Sen is 73 years old and I suggested he ought to be the next President of 
India (he is an
Indian citizen), having done the country proud. He said his views are not 
popular with the BJP,
his secular credentials don't sit well with them and the job is something he 
never thought of. He
visits India about 5 times a year. A man of tremendous achievements and 
international stature, it
might not be a stretch to see him as President of India (I am not sure if there 
is any age limit).

After a few pleasantries about our families (his kids visited Goa recently), I 
concluded by asking
him the following question: how can theories of justice be applied effectively 
to the world to
reduce poverty and inequality? It is a question that has always challenged my 
very limited
intellect (even troubled me at times). How can a world of 6.5 billion people, 
tolerate the
injustice of 3 billion illiterate, 3 billion with no access to basic education, 
health care, a
billion plus in a state of war or strife and on the other hand a celebration of 
greed and
increased power/wealth to the elites with growing differences in income. Prof. 
Sen smiled, perhaps
as a scientist does when asked to prove the existence of the supernatural. His 
life's works offers
some answers and we are better off because of them.

Regards,
George


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[Goanet] Broken peace... fact-finding and the media

[Frederick Noronha]

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Supreme Court lawyer and human rights campaigner Nandita Haksar's (et
al) just-released report 'Broken Peace: Fact finding report on the
first communal violence in Goa' is now available online, for those
interested:

PDF version (with annexures):
http://mum1ww1-a.sancharnet.in:83/vgad/brpeace.pdf

Plain-text version (without annexures)
http://mum1ww1-a.sancharnet.in:83/vgad/brokenpeacerep

Incidentally, the report makes some references to the media. It seems
to have however overlooked the role of a section of the media in
fuelling rumours that could have aggravated the violence.

Some of its references:

Page 2 of the Introduction: Thanks Preetu Nair for introducing the
team to people who proved valuable in its investigations. Thanks Sujay
Gupta of the Gomantak Times for inviting Nandita Haksar to participate
in the discussion on communal violence.

Page 3: Subhash Velingker ... has a regular column in the only Konkani
daily, Sonarprant (sic). Unfortunately, the editor of Sonaprant claims
he is both secular and leftist. But many Goans, including Ramesh G
Naik and Dr Pratap Naik SJ have expressed their concern about the
growing communalization of their society because of the language issue
(and) have expressed their anger at the Editor for publishing the
vicious anti-Catholic and anti-Muslim articles by Subhash Verlingker.
Father Pratap Naik, a linguist and in-charge of the Thomas Stephens
Konknni Kendr wrote to Ms Sonia Gandhi informing her that the
Sonaprant which is owned by Dattaraj Salgaoncar, mine owner and
staunch Congress supporter, was sowing seeds of communalism and linked
it to the violence in Sanvordem-Curchorem

Page 20: The next day the newspapers reported that an illegal mosque
had been demolished by some miscreants. Niraj Naik's SMS-based news
service reported on March 2, 2006 at 10.29.07 IST: "Miscreants
demolish disputed masjid at Goddemol, Sanvordem last night. Five
arrested. The masjid was declared illegal. But court had stayed its
demolition."

The language of this short cryptic message needs to be analyzed. The
word "disputed" seems to suggest that it was a dispute between Hindus
and Muslims which there is none. No one has disputed that the
structure belonged to the Muslim community. Everyone agrees that the
land on which it was built was government land. And that the structure
had been there for more than three decades. It is true that the
structure was illegal in so far as the land still belonged to the
government on record. However, in addition to the mosque which was
demolished there are on the same land a temple, hotel, a house
constructed by the Sarpanch Baptist Fernandes within 150 metres of the
madarsa-mosque that was demolished

Page 48: The arrest of the Kashmiri "terrorist": When we asked how
come the police told the media within minutes of arresting a man that
he was a "terrorist" and subjected him to a trial by media, the SP
(South) said that the media "happened to be present at the railway
station" when the arrest took place.

The man arrested was not given an opportunity to call a lawyer and the
media presumed him guilty even without any evidence. The media
reporting and the attitude of the police had the direct result of
putting fear into the Hindu minds in Curchorem. They became victims of
politics of fear. The Hindu professional who had initiated this peace
initiative told us he lost five friends who called him pro-Muslim and
have stopped talking to him.

The challenge before the Goan civil society is to first acknowledge
the ugly reality that the Sangh Parivar along with the Congress party
are using the war against terror for their own electoral politics and
communalizing the society and state machinery. This has resulted in
the large part of the media to become party to this insidious
politics, leaving very little democratic space for open discussions
and debate. The only way to save Goa is to fight the politics of fear
and speak out against all those who are responsible for trying to turn
Goa into another Gujarat
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Re: Fw: [Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document

[Mervyn Lobo]

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cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you get to 
> one of these countries, you can apply for local
> citizenship normally after 
> five years work/residence. Do make a concerted move
> now as the economies of 
> the above countries are not doing too badly and all
> of them have ageing populations. 


Folks,
Just a small correction here. 
You can apply for Canadian citizenship after three
years residence. The govt is now reporting the lowest
unemployment numbers in 32 years. 
Mervyn3.0





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[Goanet] Photographs -- SFX 500th Birth Anniversary Celebrations (7/4/1506 to 2006)

[godfrey gonsalves]

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Photographs of the celebrations held at Old Goa on 7th April, 2006

http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=433

a) The Eucharistic Celebrations led by His Grace the Archbishop of Goa and 
Daman, Rev Filipe Neri Ferrao and others.

b) The gathering of priests

c) The Choral Group that did the rendition of hymns

d) Seated, the delegation from Portugal led by Minguel Correia Monteiro, 
author of the book on St Francis Xavier released on this occasion

The same may be circulated freely with due courtesies to this writer.

from the Old Goa end
GODFREY J I GONSALVES
BORDA MARGAO GOA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9822158584

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[Goanet] A Reminiscent Tour of Mapusa Town in the 1950's - Part III (Final)

[domnic fernandes]

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A Reminiscent Tour of Mapusa Town in the 1950's – Part III (Final)!

>From this spot, the back of Mapusa Church is clearly visible. The church is 
dedicated to St. Jerome but is also known as the Church of Our Lady of 
Miracles. It dates back originally from the year 1594 when the first edifice 
was built. Since then it has been rebuilt several times, most recent 
reconstruction being in 1961. During the Liberation of Goa that year, part of 
the church was razed by a fire which was allegedly sparked off when the 
retreating Portuguese army tried to blow up the nearby bridge to stall the 
advance of the Indian army. The church has a beautiful gabled façade but it is 
more famous for its annual 'Milagr Saibinninchem fest' (the feast of Our Lady 
of Miracles) than for its architectural splendor. Since the church is located 
on the original site of an ancient Hindu temple (perhaps dedicated to Goddess 
Tulzai), the Hindu community also considers it a sacred area. She is venerated 
not only by the Christian faithful but also by Hindu worshippers who, 
according to an old legend, consider Our Lady of Miracles as sister of the 
Goddesses Leirai and Morzai. Consequently, in a fine display of communal 
harmony that exists in Goa, the annual feast held on the 16th day after the 
Easter is enthusiastically celebrated by Christians and Hindus alike. That the 
religious divide does not exist is best exemplified by the offerings of oil, 
candles and wax artwork to 'Milagr Saibinn' by both the sections.

The Mapusa River or estuary is located just beside the church. The crossing 
point of the estuary in the olden days was known as 'Tar' and the place was 
colloquially known as 'Mapxeam tarikodde' (at the river crossing in Mapusa). 
The Tar played an important role in the life and development of Mapusa in the 
days of inland river transport by pondev (canoe) and patmari (sail boats) when 
it was a landing point for all kinds of fruits, vegetables, timber, bamboo, 
Mangalore tiles and other merchandise. Gaunsavaddo, the ward next to the 
church, is one of the oldest residential wards of Mapusa. Most of the material 
from the sail boats was off-loaded into Gaunsavaddo. People from villages from 
my side came to the Tar with bullock carts, bought the material – wood, 
bamboo, Mangalore tiles, etc., loaded them on the carts and headed for their 
homes. Ganesh idols were immersed and continue to be immersed in the estuary 
till today. Only boats, for which the 'Tar' was originally built, cannot come 
to it now because of erection of a pipe culvert instead of a regular box 
culvert.

Across the Tar, the straight road leads to Bastora village which had an Ice 
Plant-cum-Ice Factory at its entrance, followed by a Printing Press. The road 
continues into Ucassaim and Pomburpa from where one can reach the islands. The 
road to the left leads to Moira, Nachinola, Aldona and again from here one can 
get into the islands. This was one of the roads which had concrete track 
during Portuguese regime.

I shall now return from the church to the 'Tikttear' by Janardan P. Bhobe's 
shop which was known as Bhobe's corner. By this corner there is a down slope. 
To the left of the slope, in the basement, one came across the 
original 'Central Laundry' and a Taverna beside it. A little further was a 
Sports Shop. Facing the end of the slope there was a big Pimpllachem zhadd.

If one took the inner road, to the left there was another Pimpllachem zhadd 
under which there were some residential houses, and to the right there was a 
garage. Right beside the interior Pimpllachem zhadd, one Denzil from Anjuna 
had a small workshop where he repaired batteries, and opposite the workshop, 
there lived a carpenter, Minguel Santan Fernandes, who originally hailed from 
Benaulim, but had settled down in Bardez; he was my mother's cousin. Besides 
being a carpenter, he was a good violinist. He had nine children and was quite 
poor. One of his sons, Diogo, who was very small then, always held pieces of 
wood in his hands and pretended to play a guitar. This very child went on to 
become one of the best base guitarists in Goa. He played base guitar for the 
SYNDICATE band! Diogo's eldest brother, José, studied with me in ET. He was 
very good in Mocidade; he had earned the title of 'Chefe de Cautela'. (I, too, 
was good in Mocidade and had earned the title of 'Chefe de Quina'; I couldn't 
become 'Chefe de Cautela' because I lacked height.) José was one of the first 
Goans to join the Indian Army immediately after Goa's Liberation. When on 
vacation, he would tell us 

[Goanet] Re: BABUSH MONSERRATE TO TAKE OVER REINS OF GPCC

[Frederick Noronha]

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Mario replies:

> I don't have Babush's permission to disclose his
> personal e-mail address or phone number.  As you can
> see he and I are on a first-name basis:-))

You don't need permission for that. As listed in the official directory it is:

Minister for Town & Country Planning: Shri Antnasio Monteiro, Minister
for Town and Country Planning, Housing, Provedoria & Civil Supplies.
Office 2224362. Res 2229826. Mobile 9822100010.

J P Coutinho, OSD to Minister for Town & Country Planning. Office
2224361. Mobile 9822 26.

These are August 2005 numbers and may have got changed since. No need
to kid, Mario. FN

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[Goanet] New Drama ARXEANT HANSLO ARXEANT RODDLO

[Sanny Vaz]

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Novo Konkani Tiatr.
  "ARXEANT HANSLO ARXEANT RODDLO"
   
  Salu Faleiro Kuwait xharant zaitim ek ankhi Natkulim dakoum tumchea kalzan 
rigla, tumcho poipass jikla dakoum bore dekave anik atam tumcheach adharan 
fuddem sorla tumchea mhukar haddunk aplo poilo Tiatr zho veghlech toren 
revdaila apli ikmoth uzar korun, zachem naum zaun assa "Arxeant Hanslo Arxeant 
Roddlo"..  
   
  Hea tiatr-an bhag ghevunk Goem than etat Jessica, Irene Vaz, Jr. Sylvester, 
Jr. Chico, Anil Pednekar anik sogleam-che audicho Jesus Antao, tech porim 
tankam sangath ditat Kuwait-che naum-voste artist: Marcus Vaz, Querobina 
Carvalho, Sylvester Vaz, Adrian Goes, Andrew Fernandes, Comedian Philip, 
Rosary Ferns, Laurent Pereira, Mario de Majorda, Laurie M., Luis de Molkornem, 
Michael DSilva, Ignatius de Xelvon, Zoro Coelho, Jacinto Noronha, Bab Agnel, 
Anthony Carr., M. Luis. Alex & Michael, Steven ani Sanny de Quepem
   
  Hea tiatr-ak machie-chi mandavoll kortele "Leckinson", Sound System-achi 
vevostha kortolo 'Judas' anik tumkam suvadik sogitt ditele Shahu Almeida -  
Keyboards, Faustinho - Trumpet, Denis - Bass Guitar, Philip - Lead/Rhythm 
Guitar anik Drums vazoitolo Rocky.   
   
  Vho tiatr zatolo April-ache 21ver 2006 Hawally AC Hall-ant, sanjechea 3:30 
horar, hea show-ache gate pass meutat Golden Goa hea shopper (Tel. No: 958-
1491) toxech karbar-eam laguim. Tech porim tuzo gate pass ghevunk fon kor:- 
   
  Salu Faleiro  : 949-5347.
  Adrian Goes   : 906-4557.
  Luis  : 789-5742.
  Nicholas  : 973-2917.
   
  Fudli khobor heach zaghear anik heach pannar vachunk meuteli,  
  Boroupi ani Digdorspi: Salu Faleiro adoll boddoll korunk sothea dovorta.
   
  Mog assum dhi, tumcho khalto.
   
  Sanny Vaz - Kuwait
  Sanny De Quepem
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[Goanet] Goa's appalling road sense - 3

[Valmiki Faleiro]

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==
ALL 'n' SUNDRY
By Valmiki Faleiro
==

Goa's appalling road sense - 3

By Valmiki Faleiro


Expert driving alone does not make safe drivers. *Road sense,* coupled with 
fair skill, would avert bulk of road carnage -- emerging, slowly but 
inexorably, as Goa's major tragedy. In earlier parts, we checked speeding (or 
*overspeeding,* an Indian coinage) and overtaking. In today's concluding part, 
let's sample our assorted road proclivities. (This series on death on Goa's 
roads, which began Feb 26, 2006, will however continue, dwelling on diverse 
components of the complex issue.)

Road sense is a crucial area that, I'm told, the world-class *Maruti Driving 
Schools* have laid abundant curriculum emphasis ... but, alas, is alien to 
Goa's system of teaching, licensing and enforcing. How many drivers know about 
*right of way,* for example, at various traffic points -- entering a major 
road, a roundabout or at an intersection, a crosswalk or on a ghat section? 
Would there be as many fatalities outside Dabolim airport, if we did? Or at 
the Verna bypass (till elaborate roundabouts, rumble-strips and signage was 
installed to *herd* drivers)? Or at Anmod ghat?

Do we know we must give way to traffic approaching from the right (their 
*blind* side)? How many of us will just dart into a main road, unmindful? Are 
we lane conscious, like ahead of an intersection, when wanting to turn? Is 
road hogging not our national pastime, whether on two or more wheels?

How many know the must STOP, for pedestrians on a zebra-lined crosswalk who 
have the right of way? (For an answer, watch that conscientious lady HomeGuard 
control traffic near Margao's *Cafe Marliz *... and chase, umbrella in hand, 
motorists who won't stop even when asked to!) We must also STOP when someone 
in dark glasses raises a *white cane with a red tip* and attempts to cross the 
road, not commit hara-kiri. (Maybe low incidence of blindness accounts for one 
not being run over in Goa, yet?)

Ambulances and fire tenders enjoy similar right of way (but not our *sontri* 
VIPs with flashing beacon lamps ... personally, I yield way out of sheer 
deference to the national flag they fly!) Motorists duck to the side at the 
sight of a Police or RTO jeep, not to wailing sirens of an ambulance. (Many 
are clueless about why *ambulance* is painted in mirror image ... they've 
never checked their rearview mirror as an ambulance follows!) Do we know that 
a traffic cop's command is law, irrespective of the road sign (like in an 
emergency)?

Ah, Goa and tailgating! Few realise that a motor vehicle (two- or more- wheel) 
is a contraption without an *instant stop.* Considering minimum stopping 
distances and normal conditions, a safe driver will maintain one car length 
from the vehicle ahead for every 15 km/ph speed (four car lengths at 60 km/ph, 
six car lengths at 90 km/ph, etc.) At a ghat, descend in the gear engaged on 
the way up (to avoid brake-fading, a temporary failure due to overheating of 
brake pads.) Uphill traffic has the right of way.

How many drivers understand road markings -- broken lines, continuous lines, 
parallel lines, lines in white, lines in yellow, straight and arrowed 
indicators -- painted on road surfaces? Strangely, learners are taught 
intensively, and examined, on road/traffic signs ... in a tourist haven that 
woefully lacks sufficient signage (mandatory, cautionary or informatory) to 
caution and guide Goa's honoured guests!

Central Motor Vehicle rules ban dark sun films, which, for roadster Romeos, 
are more vision- than sun-control films. Such cars understandably move at 
snail's pace and overtaking them is hazardous as they block vision of the road 
ahead. All these are mandatory rules, rarely observed. Can *road etiquette* be 
expected? Check annoying honking. Thank small mercies for our muted road rage. 
If this were America, most Goan drivers would vanish -- not from accidents, 
but gunshots!

TAILPIECE (from this week's Goanet): Gabriel de Figueiredo, Melbourne, 
who drove in Goa until he migrated in 1980, feels local newspapers must 
publish a daily count of road accidents and deaths. "This will hopefully 
ensure that no one thinks himself/herself invincible and drive more carefully. 
Another idea is a weekly serialization of safe driving practices." Eddie 
Fernandes, London, denounces corruption in the Driving School-RTO nexus and 
narrates a hilarious experience trying to get a Goa driving licence in 
addition to his British one. During the oral, the RTO failed Eddie for not 
knowing to "Blow the 

[Goanet] RE:Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document -TGF update April 8, 06

[jose colaco]

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Ralph Rau [ April 3, 06]: < Having just returned from Portugal a first hand 
view from a relative who was born and bred there is "Portugal is in a 
negative frame of mind with a low

economic confidence index>

Cornel d Costa [April 8, 2006]: look up their websites for the kind of skilled labour they currently need. 
Your Indian passport is absolutely fine for this and you may get a lucky 
break well before your Portuguese passport gets to you>



jc response:

I truly wonder IF Cornel's assumption is accurate. Please vide the following 
on TGF's latest update April 8, 2006


please visit the TGF April 8, 2006 update at http://www.colaco.net

1: Portuguese Citizenship for eligible Goans  - hopes, misconceptions, and 
what EU Law provides - TGF


2: A Shocker from Chennai ! -  A study in Chennai has found that as many as 
42 per cent of school-going children are victims of sexual abuse. And in 
most of the cases, the perpetrators are either close relatives or family 
members.


Opposing viewpoints welcome

jc

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[Goanet] Re: Re: indo-french exercises

[gilbert menezes]

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Im getting a bit confused, what with beautiful sister in laws, and the
Karwar naval base all mentioned in the same post.
Anyways, I can say that Nasci, from down under, or whereever, is
totally off track regarding the reason for the Karwar Naval base being
built.
In the early 1980s, it was realised that the powerful and growing
Western Fleet, which is the main striking arm of the Navy, could not
be accommodated in its home port of Bombay due to insufficient
berthing and repair space, and it would be better to build a
greenfield naval base further south, away from high population
densities.  This would also reduce the vulnerability of the Fleet to
preemptive air strikes from our northern neighbour.  In addition, such
a deep water base would also be ideal as a home port for our growing
fleet of submarines, in addition to nuclear powered vessels, which
have to be based away from crowded areas, and crowded ports, due to
reactor safety constraints..
I would like to mention here that the new base was NEVER planned to be
a naval air station, but was to have a small air station to
accommodate the organic air elements from our destroyers/ frigates and
aircraft carriers based there.  Due to budgetary constraints, the
original plan for the base has been whittled down considerably, and
even the small air strip has not seen the light of day.
I have no intention of getting involved any further in the
Dabolim/Mopa debate.  I leave that to our *wise* politicians like
senhor Churchill, who have found a convenient subject to distract
public opinion away from their misdeeds, and now have a nice platform
to garner votes . Im pretty certain that Dabolim will continue to fly
civil as well as military aircraft ,during my lifetime, for sure.
regards, Gilbert Menezes.


> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:21:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: indo-french exercises
> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> --- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mario,
> >
> > I, Nasci have every right to give advice, as best as
> > I can, in the interest of Goa and of India, to the
> > governments and to the' Naval Air' stationed in
> > Goa. Why not.
> >
> Mario replies:
> >
> Nasci, Mea culpa.  Please excuse me from mentioning
> you in the same context as our friend Bernardo, who
> must be recognized for his resolute attempts to defend
> the indefensible.  And, I also concede your free
> speech right, and Bernardo's, to give any advice you
> wish to anyone you wish.  My comment was
> ill-conceived.
> >
> Regarding the other specifics of your post I will let
> Gilbert Menezes respond as he knows far more about
> what the Indian Navy is up to than me.
> >

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Re: [Goanet] Road Accidents ---an interesting discussion /MelindaCoutinho Powell

[Helga do Rosario Gomes]

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Melinda, have you tried being a pedestrian in Bombay? Or have you just tried
breathing the noxious fumes that constitutes air?


>Ive been living in Goa for seven years,and when I first began to drive
>here(after driving in Bombay)I was horrified.


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[Goanet] Re: indo-french exercises

[gilbertlaw]

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You absolutely have that right. And so do others.:=))  
So how come you call Goans who read my post as "gullible"?
I forgive you.  When you have no economic argument to rebut my case for MOPA, 
it is easy to use epithets. 
That makes my arguments even stronger. Thanks
Kind Regards, GL

Nasci Caldeira 

I, Nasci have every right to give advice, as best as I can, in the interest of 
Goa and of India, to the governments and to the' Naval Air' stationed in Goa. 
Why not.

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Re: [Goanet] Name calling ...& Sucking up

[Joe Vaz]

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"Pandu Lampiao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

-
.do we have a  vision of a future?

Does Goa have a future? Its bleak to me? Or is

it

just building a
ghastly new house with a few bucks made sucking

up

to some Arab in
Dubai? (apologies, this is a terrible thing to

say

but this is
reality, no).





Surely, the writer must be speaking through experience, when he speaks of  
“sucking up”   :-)


Perhaps, just perhaps the writer is oblivious of the significant 
contributions Goans in the Gulf have made, leading to the successful 
economical advancement in Goa.  It is through their tireless toil and sweat 
overseas, that they have built their homes in Goa.  Importantly, Goa boasts 
of substantial (and enviable) foreign revenues, which has marked the 
beginning of booming businesses, mainly because of the sacrifices they and 
our seafaring brethren have made. Goans should be proud of that progress.


Obviously, the writer is ignorant of the above, to make such “ghastly” and 
repulsive statements, -- and faking an apology while intentionally making 
such comment constitutes pure hypocrisy.


Joe Vaz

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Re: [Goanet] Re: A dog by any name still smells...

[Helga do Rosario Gomes]

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Yeah Cecil, Mopa is a great name for your pup! Then you can call him Mops or
Moppie. There is so much you could do with Mopa - Good work George!
Unless you want to go with the old classic 'Poppy'. I remember as a kid
almost every other dog was called Poppy. These Poppies hung around in heaps
and were sharp barkers.

If there is a dispute about ownership, call it 'Dabolim'. For promise made
that might never be,
call it 'Mopa'.  For unfullfilled potentional, call it 'Goa'.  I am sure
cyber-Goans can come up
with creative names.

Regards,
George


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[Goanet] Re: Unbalanced CyberMatrimonials

[George Pinto]

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Do more married men read the Cybermatrimonials than unmarried? 

 ;-)

George


--- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This month's CyberMatrimonials have 11 females searching for a groom, and only
> 1 male searching for a bride. I wonder if this has any statistical 
> significance
> in a contemporary sociological context?


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[Goanet] KONKNNICHO PROCHAR anik XABASKI

[milagres fernandes]

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Aiz kuwait hem nanv sounasaracheam charuim konxeanim gazta  Kuwait dhesant 
kup goenkar asat. Kuwait’cheam gavant goenkar bhav bhoinnam nokri korun aplo 
ghorabo choloitat. Tem goenkar zaun legun aiz aplim maim bhass visronk nat. 
Aiz porian goenkar kuwaitant kunknnicho kup prochar kortat. Poilim poilim 
kup augodd bhogtalim pun toruim astanam goenkar ekvottan anik ekmotin 
konknni karaivoll soboitalem. Ream velar legun zaitem konknnichem moguim 
kuwait’ant aslolem anik tanka favo to soeg mello naslolo konknnik sath 
diunk. Zor kaim zannank boro soeg metalo tor tank sondhi mello naslolim 
karan kaim konknni vod director ap-apleam munxeank sovloteo ditalet anik her 
bhurge niraxi zatalem. Tiatranchem babtin tor anik sangonk naka boream 
boream noveam kantoristank kossoch sondh gavo naslolo eka tiatran kanrat 
korunk vo gavunk karann pornem tiatrist mhuntalem kim noveam bhurgeank 
gatlear taitrak lok zauchonam anik uprant tiatr luskonat podtolo. Team 
khatir tem goeam thaun namnechem tiatrist Kuwait hadtalem anik goenchem 
tiatrst  Kuwait eun pornim kantara mhuntalet anik tiatr xenn korun 
kuwait’cheam lokak bellsololem khavoitalem. Atam legun tench chol’lam oxem 
mhunnot tor hanv chukchonam.


Todeam burgeanchim umed potantuch urtam hem  tor sogott zanna aslolem anik 
tiatrist noveam pillgek sondhi diunk chod kotin dekhun team bhurgeank adar 
diunk goencho ek mhahan club fuddem sorlo anik tannim chintlem kim sogleam 
goencheam noveam bhurgeank ek korun tanka tanchi umed anik kuddint aslolim 
kala dakounk ek sondhi diunk . Aiz porian goenchem zaitem club kuwait’ant 
asat ponn ekuim clubak tankh naslolim kim noveam bhurgeank fuddem haddunk. 
Ponn aiz team sogleam noveam bhurgeank borim umed dilim eka goeancheam 
cluban anik to club zaun asa U.C.U. heam clubak hanv chod respet dita anik 
mhozim man bhagoun tacheam vangddeank salam korta karan aiz UCU’n (united 
club of utorda) zo vavr kela to vavr goenche khoicheim cluban korunk nam 
anik hatun dubav nam. Sounsaracheam itihasan UCU’n kuwait’tan poilech pautt 
ek anki nattka spordha godun hadlim anik zaiteam noveam  noveam bhurgeank 
apleam kuddintlim kala dakounk ek bhangarachim sondhi dilim. Heam clubachem 
spordhechim sondhi geun aiz Kuwait ziatem bhuegem bore chod famad zalet. 
Kaim bhurgem borem director zaun aiz kuwait’ant aplem tiatr dakoulet zalear 
kaim bhurgem bore kalakar zalet. Goencho ek  bhurgo Kuwait ata ekdom boro 
famad director zalam anik to mhunta kim ucu’n apleak voir kadla mhunn. Aiz 
UCU’n hem ekdom borem kelem sogleank voir soronk ponn ek mat UCU’chem sarkem 
zaunk nam oxem mhaka zalear dista anik tem mhollear tancheam spordhecho 
nikhal korop sarko zainam karan tem zem judges hadtat tem sarkim konknni 
nokllo aslolem. Magtam fudarak tannim borem konknni anbhav aslolem jogdes 
haddunk. Ponn kitem zaum U.C.U’k vakan’nim anik vatt pollet rauta 2005 
spordeheam nikhalachim.


UCU’n borem kela ponn toruim astanam toddeancho xinn soronk nam. Kaim zannak 
acting korpachim sondhi gaulim ponn geeta gaupachim sondhi gavonk nam. Team 
passot kaim kalla uprant anik ek pongodd toear zalo anik to pongodd mhollear 
KALA MOGUIM KUWAIT (K.M.K) heam pongoddan Kuwait geetanchi spordha godun 
haddlim anik sogleam noveam bhurgeank geeta gaunk ek borim sondhi dilim. 
K.M.K’n ek boro vavr kelo anik sogleanchim umed bhagoilim ponn aponn kudh 
luksonat bhuddlo. Aiz KMK khoi asa? Hachim aiz legun khonnech sodh geunk 
nam. Ponn kitem zaum aiz zo vavr KMK’n kela to ekdom boro vavr korun somazak 
dakoilo team passot hanv tanka amchim vod porbim ditam.


KMK’n sogleank sondhi dili khorim ponn toruim astanam legun kaim zannanim 
tacher  vodd  xinn  kelo. Xinn korpak sogleank gomta ponn KMK bhudlam hachim 
matr taka konnech bhuzvonn diunk nam. Novem, novem bhurgem xinn kortat  anik 
sogleancho xinn pavounk zainam. Team passot kaim kalla uprant kuwait’ant 
anik ek don khodegant pongodd fuddem sorlem anik tannim ek novim sondhi 
bhurgeank dilim. Tem don pongodd zaun asat ek KHK. (konkanni heritage 
Kuwait) anik dusro KKK (Kuwait konknni kendr). Ata heam donium pongoddan ek 
zaun ek novim spordha godun hadlim anik ti mhollear ekach sangatak geeta 
spordha anik ek anki nattkam spordha. Heam spordhent zaiteam bhurgeank 
sondhi dilim anik sogleanchim umed bhagoilim. KHK & KKK spordhent tannim 
goeam thaun ek special judge haddlolo anik tannem dhubava viret nikhal ekdom 
boro kelo. Aiz kuwait’cheam gavant goenkar toxem munglurkar konknni prochara 
passot kup vavurtat anik sogleam konknni mogeank boreo boreo konknni 
kariavollim dakoitat. Hanv sodanch magtam heach porim ekvottan anik m

[Goanet] Re: A dog by any name still smells...

[George Pinto]

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Cecil, Thanks for the humour. But relax. Make this a cyber-community dog. Put a 
picture on the net
and have a dog-naming contest.  

If there is a dispute about ownership, call it 'Dabolim'. For promise made that 
might never be,
call it 'Mopa'.  For unfullfilled potentional, call it 'Goa'.  I am sure 
cyber-Goans can come up
with creative names.

Regards,
George
 

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[Goanet] Abundant life and Suicides[Abandoned Life]

[Miguel Braganza]

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LIFE IS FOR THE LIVING
It’s your life!

At the outset, I must admit that my thoughts veered to this subject due to
two causes: the unfortunate death of a young student and sportsman from my
Alma Mater, St.Britto High School, and the newspaper report of Dr. Narayan
Desai giving his favourite advice to parents of students. The report on
Dr.Desai’s address appeared in the only Konkani newspaper published in Goa.

What we dream, and dare to do, we become. What we cannot dream, we cannot
become. In the rare occasion that we achieve something we had not dreamt
off, it is considered a miracle. It is called a miracle because it is
extremely rare. The problem with many of us is two fold: one, we begin to
dream very late in our life and two, we dare others to do it for us. The
“others” whom we goad to achieve our dreams are, more often than not, our
children. Examples are a legion of super dud parents wanting their children,
with “second class” marks at SSC, to struggle through Science in the Higher
Secondary level and become doctors and engineers! A brilliant sportsperson,
a successful event manager, a good business administrator, a talented
musician or a wonderful artist is sometimes unwittingly sacrificed in an
attempt to produce a doctor by a couple of blinkered individuals called
parents.

The Druze poet Khalil Gibran has advice for parents. He says that parents
are like bows and the children are like arrows. The bow can give direction
to the arrow and bend to propel it forward. Once the arrow has left the bow,
it must follow its own course. My father was a firm believer in this view.
Today’s parents often treat their children like wire, or laser, guided
missiles whose they control to their very end. In the uncharted landscape of
today’s career options, the parents are often like the American Command HQ
during the Iraq war: they can control the missile but cannot identify the
target. The consequences in the war were described as “friendly fire” a
euphemism for killing allied soldiers or pilots by mistake. Similar
parenting creates nervous wrecks or suicides. Well intended, YES. Desirable,
definitely NOT!

Dr. Narayan Desai, Principal of S.S. Angle HSS at Mashem-Canacona in the
Raja Saundekar territory of yore, is a learned man and an eloquent speaker.
I was fortunate to be a member of the Board of Studies in Agriculture with
him. He is one of the few persons I would call an ‘educationist’. Most
others in his profession are employed as teachers for want of a better
option. Obviously, a few are propagandists who did not find the right
employer or who use Government grants to fund their cause and organisations.
These organizations even arrange for “Best Teacher” awards at the National
level. A student of botany once described such a symbiosis as “you scratch
my back, I scratch yours.” It works.

Education sets one free. It removes the shackles of ignorance, it gives one
the capacity to think, it inspires one to dream, it empowers one to do and
it opens the possibility of interacting in a logical, mutually beneficial
and progressive way with others to achieve one’s goals without denying the
others the opportunity to achieve their goals. If one has not reached this
level, one may have degrees and doctorates and fellowship of renowned
institutions, but still not be educated at all. The ABC of  Education is “
Attitudenal and Behavioural Change” One’s attitude must change first. Change
in behaviour follows suit naturally.

The request of Dr. Narayan Desai to parents is simple: “Do not impose your
dreams on your children. They were not born to fulfill your dreams. Your
children have dreams of their own. If you encourage and support them to
fulfill their dreams, your children will be truly successful.” Simple as his
message may seem, it is quite difficult to practice once one is a parent. In
our attempt to guide the children, often out of genuine concern, we end up
re-directing their lives. I have had the fortune of having an intelligent
boy from my own home town sharing a class and hostel room with me in
Bangalore. I have also had the misfortune of watching him slowly go round
the bend because Bangalore and Agriculture was not where he wanted to be. He
was there only because his family wanted him to be an “officer” and there
was every chance that he would be so with a degree in Agriculture. He was
capable of more!

One cannot normally see beyond the horizon. Sun rise and sun set are very
real experiences to us even today, even when we know that It is the Earth
that rotates round the sun! We laugh at the absurdity of the Pope 

Re: [Goanet] Road Accidents ---an interesting discussion /Melinda Coutinho Powell

[Mario Goveia]

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--- Melinda Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It helps to be mobile.  Retaining one's sanity while
> driving  here is difficult..My kids have picked up
> the stream of invectives I hurl on bad drivers.
> 
Mario observes:
>
I love it.  Melinda's sane exposition of driving
conditions in Goa, as well as her effective method of
reducing her own stress and maintaining her sanity.  I
highly recommend her approach, which has the side
benefit of providing the kids with a "home education"
in the essentials of inter-vehicular communications in
Goa:-))  Nothing like hearing it from Mom.  Shows
she's human too.
>
However, I am a little puzzled about her comments
about driving in Mumbai, which, in my opinion, is just
as chaotic as Goa.  The difference I see is that with
Mumbai approaching gridlock no one can get up to any
kind of speed that will cause a fatality in most
cases.  So, in Mumbai, one sees plenty of fender
benders but few fatalities.  Goa, with a lower traffic
density, allows the same maniacal attitude to get up
to lethal speeds leading to more fatalities.
>
Then, having parked 6" front and back from the next
car, every driver miraculously becomes a normal person
again.
>

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[Goanet] Re: indo-french exercises

[Frederick Noronha]

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Hi Gilbert Menezes, I read your paens of praise to the Navy.

> Why do I write this? Three reasons-firstly, our Navy is the most
> powerful in the region, and one which is admired worldwide as being
> thoroughly professional.  Secondly, we could never dream of seeing
> foreign fighter aircraft overflying our territory--we are now getting
> truly globalised, and India is taking its rightful place among the
> comity of nations. Lastly, as a Goan, Im proud that Goa is an
> important cog in our nations defence.
> regards, Gilbert Menezes.

As someone who has long been convinced that poverty, illiteracy,
hunger and disease are our real enemies (not someone who lives across
some border, and might have another religion or language), I was not
fully convinced by your arguments.

> Im just an old navy veteran minding my own business and sitting under
> the shade of an old coconut tree at 0940 this morning in South Goa,
> sipping my coffee and keeping out of my wifes way, and trying to avoid
> all those contentious debates on Goanet as well, when I hear the
> scream of jets overhead and watch 2 fighter bombers overfly my house
> at low level.  My eyes are still good enough to recognise them as

And as you looked overhead to the scream of jets, my mobile phone
beeped on 6-Apr-2006 16:49:46 and said: "CBI raided plant in Verna
over Navy war room leak case."

You've probably been reading in the media about the latest allegations
to hit the military. For more detail see http://tinyurl.com/mxetb

When I did a search, I found that some of the honourable gentlemen
mentioned in the Navy war room leak case had served in Goa too.

Romanticising the role of the military is fine. Remember: it has come
at a huge cost.

Nations like ours, with millions still leaving a sub-human existance,
have a long way to go before we can afford such luxuries. For that
matter, given the fragile shape of the environment, I think no country
needs or can afford the luxury of war games. Let's focus on targets
that affect the lives of the people. FN

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1480861.cms
CBI raids premises of Naval chief's kinAdd to Clippings

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, APRIL 07, 2006 12:45:16 AM]
NEW DELHI: A month after the defence ministry handed over the Navy war
room leak case, the Central Bureau of Investigation on Thursday
arrested three former naval officers and conducted raids at 17 places,
including the premises of Ravi Shankaran, kin of Navy chief Admiral
Arun Prakash, in connection with the case. The arrested included one
woman, who was used a honey trap, for criminal conspiracy.

The CBI, which has registered an FIR against nine people, arrested Lt
Commander (Retd) Kulbhushan Parashar, who has been reportedly
identified as the end user of the classified documents, at Indira
Gandhi International Airport as he returned from London by an Air
India flight on Wednesday night.

Sources said that the CBI had filed the FIR over 15 days ago but had
been waiting for Parashar to return before starting arrests and
conducting raids. Raids were conducted in 17 locations in New Delhi,
Mumbai, Pune, Muzzafarpur, Chandigarh and Goa.

Another key accused in the case Lt Commander (Retd) Ravishankaran, the
nephew of Navy chief Admiral Arun Prakash, is still in London and the
CBI is waiting for his return from London before proceeding against
him, He is also named in the CBI FIR.

The factory premises of Shanks Oceaneering belonging to Ravishankaran
in Mumbai and Goa were also raided. The CBI also raided the house of
Manish Vohra, the chartered accountant for Parashar and Ravi
Shankaran.

The others who were arrested on Wednesday include two ex-commanders of
the Indian Navy Virender Rana, who was arrested from Dwarka in Delhi,
and Kashyap Kumar, who was arrested from Muzaffarpur. The CBI also
arrested Rajrani Jaiswal and Mukesh Bajaj from Pune on Thursday
afternoon.

The other four named in the FIR apart from Ravishankaran are
ex-captain of the Indian Navy Kashyap Kumar, wing commander (Retd) S K
Kohli and ex-wing commander of Indian Air Force Sambhajee L Surve,
from whom classified naval information was found and the whole case
unravelled.

The CBI is investigating the role of Rajrani Jaiswal and till now have
concluded that she was used as a honey trap to entice naval officers
like air force officer Wing Commander S L Surve, and passed
information on to Parashar. She has also been charged under 120B
(criminal conspiracy) of the Indian Penal Code.

The FIR has been registered on the basis of information received from
the ministry of defence that three officers of the Indian Navy and one
officer of the Indian Air Force in collusion with 

Re: [Goanet] A dog by any name still smells...

[Mario Goveia]

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--- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A dog by any name still smells...
> Perils of dog naming in Goa.
> By Cecil Pinto
> 
> Last month, in her infinite wisdom, my wife brought
> home a cute puppy from her sister's place. 
>
Mario observes:
>
Cecil, this is really good stuff, on par with the
hilarious desperate Goan housewives interview.  Keep
it up and thank you.  I think you should send these 
to the bigger national newspapers?  I'm serious.
>

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[Goanet] Re: RE: Pre & Pot 1961 Goa - a response to Tony Correia Afonso

[Frederick Noronha]

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jose colaco colaco_2 at hotmail.com wrote:

> 1: Goa is and will always be my home.

That's a convenient stance to take... if you live in a commonwealth
which retains Queen Elizabeth II as the head of state (and where after
the advent of colonialism Taino Indians ceased to exist as a separate
people on account of forced labour, warfare, disease, and also
emigration and outmarriage), is a declared "flag-of-convenience
country", where tourism and offshore-banking  (offshore banking has
often been associated with the underground economy and organized
crime, via tax evasion and money laundering) harvests the  third
highest per capita income in the western hemisphere. More so also if
one holds a passport of convenience.

> 2: The Portuguese did a lot of good and bad - in and to Goa and Goans.

The issue isn't of the Portuguese doing "good and bad", but of the
lingering impact of colonialism.

> 3: 1961 was as good a time as any for Portugal to leave Goa.

"To leave"? That makes it almost sound like a neighbourhood friendly
guest who has overstayed his welcome. Is the word 'colonialism' beyond
your vocabulary?

> 4: Our family was definitely anti-Salazar, and I have not seen (nor read)
> anything which would make me pro-Salazar.

The issue IMNSHO is not merely Salazar. It's colonialism. Do I err in
seeing the above statement conveniently side-stepping the latter issue
by focussing on Salazar alone as the  fountainhead of all evil?

> 5: Even though the eventual result would have been (in my mind) the same,
> Nehru should have offered Goans (even if it was on December 20, 1961) a 
> chance to be
> Independent or Join India. I don't think he thought much about Goans as
> being anything more than "Cooks and Butlers".

In subsequent elections (1962 panchayat elections, 1963-end assembly
elections, and the Opinion Poll of 1967) that choice was exercised.
Also, subsequent elections have show the bulk of the electorate taking
part. Apart from a few Colacos and a handful of others who can't get
to terms with changing history and geography, there are few who would
try to stoke this issue, the persistent propagandising on the Net
notwithstanding.

The "Cooks and Butlers" comment (within quotes, as if quoting
someone... ) clearly seems mischevious in this context.

> 6: Your terminology of 'absorption' notwithstanding, the official terms used
> in the SC rulings are Invasion and Annexation. Don't understand the need to
> overrule the Supreme Court of India.

Please could you offer some reference for the Supreme Court using the
term "invasion"? The use of the word "annexation" in a Supreme Court
judgement -- and its detailed context --  is available online, and has
been already cited a few weeks ago.

> 7: NOT every body who opts to reclaim his(or her) Portuguese Nationality is
> a supporter of Salazar or a ill-wisher of India. In fact, I wonder IF most
> of the Salazarists aren't right there in Goahaving made their poixe by
> sucking up to Salazar.

The issue here is not of Salazar. Someone wanting to "reclaim"
Portuguese nationality could be either doing it because of a colonised
mindset which suggests a First-World-White-Skin better. Or one could
also be doing it because of convenience (a 'better' passport, ease of
migration, favourable quotas etc) just as how some surnames got
changed to Anglo-Indian sounding names to garner preferential
treatment in British colonial times, for Railway jobs, etc.

While this may be a valid motive, there's no reason to obsfucate the
issue by bringing the long-dead Salazar into the debate.

> 8: Not everybody who turns down the opportunity to gain another nationality,
> or turns down an opportunity to work abroad, is a patriot. Pundalik Gaitonde
> and Fanchu Loyola were patriots, were they not? And yet they left (for
> reasons they know best) to reside their golden years (of all the places) in
> Salazar's Portugal(from which even Portugal's Portuguese were fleeing).

No. But if someone claims such an undying love for Goa, s/he should be
willing to plant their feet where their mouth is... and not be mere
friends of conveience. Or quit complaining about every single thing
"going wrong" (or seen to go wrong from such a distant) in Goa.

> 9: Not everybody who returns to Goa is a patriot or whatever. Each one makes
> his own decision for his own reasons. Some are family reasons, others
> emotional, occupational, opportunity...but most are FINANCIAL. IF the Rupee
> gets stronger than the Pound or Dollar; or IF it gets more expensive to live
> in Goa in comparison to the UK/US, I wonder how many of the UK/US retirees
> will stay on in Goa. So, without prejudice, I say "To Each His Own"

Si

[Goanet] BABUSH MONSERRATE TO TAKE OVER REINS OF GPCC

[sunil monteiro]

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Mario,

I don't have Babush's permission to disclose his
personal e-mail address or phone number.  As you can
see he and I are on a first-name basis:-))

Sunil:=

As a Goenkar Bhav, don't send the email if no permission from him just post 
it , as you rightly call him great one, post it to Taleigao to his attention 
and it will reach



However, for me to print and send him your e-mail
would not make a good or serious impression.  After
all he is a political giant-killer.  But if you can
send me your suggestions in an attached WORD file, and
keep your comments respectful and constructive, I'll
see what I can do to get it to the great-one's
attention.


From your above comments,it sounds a politician's promise. I don't blame you 
for that ,as we speak volumes about our country etc.etc.on the net but when 
it comes to real ground work  we are back on our balcao with all l sorts of 
excuses , Mario , knowledge alone is not sufficient but actions should go 
with it.


Won't give a sermao , but i must say Practice what you preach .

Sunil

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Re: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense!(re Mario's comment)

[Nasci Caldeira]

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Hello Mario,

I have read you, and find that you are sometimes contradicting yourself!
I was going to write on two subjects: namely; 'Stop baiting Mario' and 'Stop 
Portugal Bashing' without rhyme or reason. The 'Stop Portugal Bashingl' was 
meant for poeple like you, (albeit, in your last two postings, your view on 
Portugal has changed significantly) but I might still go ahead with it. But 
'Stop baiting Mario' is another matter, as of now!


I proceed now to respond to your comments. :-)


Mario observes:
Whew!  Nasci, now tell us what you REALLY think of
India.  Aren't you glad you migrated to Australia?


Nasci:
I am glad that I migrated to Australia, the real living breathing Paradise 
from the old paradise Goa, that has been taken over by uncouth people and 
vagrants, hawkers and stray rabid dogs.


Mario like I have said, in one of my earlier postings, that you have 
certainly read; I did not migrate for economic reasons, at all; 'cause I had 
a Career and I was prosperous, in a way. I left India, for the good life and 
good envirinment. I was 'sick' of the socio religious stupidities and 
idyiosyncracies in practice, in India, and in Goa, the continual power 
failures, erratic water supply, no road sense, no proper roads, crowded 
trains and buses, crowded with human filth too, uncouth and obnoxious; 
shortages of food items, queues everywhere, hopeless sanitation and 
sewerage, and government incompetence, the gaunkari and other politics, etc. 
All of that makes life like Hell!


Mario:

As I have said in a previous post, India should be
avoided by the fastidious and faint of heart, for
their own health and sanity.  Leave it alone, PLEASE,
for those of us who enjoy going there, mainly to bask
in the incomparable warmth and hospitality of friends
and family.  No one in India is going to miss a few
thousand crabby and dis-satisfied expats.
I don't know whether you grew up in India or not, but
the chaos and mess that you describe has always been a
part of the Indian scene.  To be sure, some of it is
disgusting and drives me nuts, but there are other
things that more than compensate, and that's what I
tend to focus on, and enjoy.
India, believe it or not, has changed for the better
over the last 35 years since I left it.


Nasci:
Yes I agree with you here; but that does not mean, we non residents must not 
give advice and or debate the various issues confronting Goa and India. You 
migrated 35 years earlier; I did only 19 years earlier; so I have suffered 
more on India's and Goa's shortcomings! As a result I feel the pain all the 
more, that nothing has really improved, from the situ that I have described 
in the first para.


I returned to Goa/Bombay for three weeks in 1989, as part of my working tour 
that took me from Australia to Europe and return via N. Delhi. Since then I 
have been really scared to come and live in India. Only recently on 
retirement, some of my Bombay friends put some courage into me.


I went to Goa and Bombay, to meet with my friends and the few relatives left 
behind; and what happens is that, the moment I step out of my hotel or 
friends home , I am in third world chaos. Even when inside, the continual 
interruption to power reminds me that I am in underdeveloped Goa! and I feel 
so sad. 'Sorrowing Lies My Land'.


I visited India and Goa for three months, from October 2005. My first ever 
visit to North India: Jaipur, Agra and Delhi; I spent a month in these 
places; and was not impressed; the quality of life is far from claims about 
progress etc. Everywhere I found dirt, vagrants, noisy street processions, 
and the silence and beauty of night broken by rowdy noisy wedding and 
religious processions, well into the early hours of the morning. This 
happens in N. Delhi.


One night in my hotel, when the unbearable noise finally stopped at around 
four in the morning; one European guest was 'smart enough' to open his 
window and turn his TV out on to the street at a very high volume; for some 
two hours, and he and his partner challenged anybody to come and stop them! 
That much for life in Delhi. Except for the Parliament and Govt places, and 
a few tourist areas, I was not impressed.


Thence in Bombay it was no better, after all Bombay had definitely changed 
to Mumbai!. I had meals in the so called good restaurants; but one evening I 
was let down; I got the 'RUNS". even from this supposedly good eating place. 
In Bombays famed BEST buses, I had to kill two large size cockroaches 
running wild on deck; had to kill and offend the Jains, before they could 
get into my pants! Th

[Goanet] Unbalanced CyberMatrimonials

[Cecil Pinto]

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This month's CyberMatrimonials have 11 females searching for a groom, and 
only 1 male searching for a bride.
I wonder if this has any statistical significance in a contemporary 
sociological context?


Cheers!

Cecil

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Fw: [Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document

[cornel]

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Hi Ralph
You have just indicated very clearly, why you disagreed with a particular 
poster on Goanet regarding the Portuguese passport. I agree with you 
entirely and hope you will get your Portuguese passport soon. I had also 
sent you a post on this matter earlier.


I don't know your occupation/profession nor where you are currently resident 
but if in Goa/India, and you want to consider emigrating to English speaking 
places like Australia/NZ, Canada, USA and even the UK I'd like to suggest 
you look up their websites for the kind of skilled labour they currently 
need. Your Indian passport is absolutely fine for this and you may get a 
lucky break well before your Portuguese passport gets to you. If you get to 
one of these countries, you can apply for local citizenship normally after 
five years work/residence. Do make a concerted move now as the economies of 
the above countries are not doing too badly and all of them have ageing 
populations. I can tell you that there is a lot of work available in the UK. 
Most of the varied labour working on the 2012 Olympic site is labour from 
outside for instance but accommodation is problematic and expensive.


From my general interest re this theme, I'd be happy to provide info about 
how to prepare for applying for advertised jobs on websites. I also had two 
articles published in the Herald about 20 months ago, informing young Goans 
what the prospects were like elsewhere if they badly wanted to leave Goa. 
The advantages and disadvantages were spelt out in some detail.

Regards
Cornel DaCosta, London, UK.
- Original Message - 
From: "ralph rau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:09 AM
Just caught up with Mario Goveia's e-mail. Mr. Goveia wonders why the
Portuguese passport is a superior travel document to the Indian passport.
Here are the facts.
Portuguese passport holders DO NOT require a visa to travel to the major
economic powers including United States, Canada...




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[Goanet] Future of Goa

[gilbertlaw]

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Yes! Goa does have a future - for Goans and by Goans.
For now take up the fight and make a stand for Dabolim and MOPA.
OK most of us write posts because that's all we can do from far far away.
What's your alibi for just seekig a vision instead of working for a future?:=))
Kind Regards, GL

Pandu writes:
Do we have a vision of a future? 
Does Goa have a future? 
It's bleak to me.

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Re: [Goanet] Re: indo-french exercises

[Mario Goveia]

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--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mario,
> 
> I, Nasci have every right to give advice, as best as
> I can, in the interest of Goa and of India, to the 
> governments and to the' Naval Air' stationed in 
> Goa. Why not.
> 
Mario replies:
>
Nasci, Mea culpa.  Please excuse me from mentioning
you in the same context as our friend Bernardo, who
must be recognized for his resolute attempts to defend
the indefensible.  And, I also concede your free
speech right, and Bernardo's, to give any advice you
wish to anyone you wish.  My comment was
ill-conceived.
>
Regarding the other specifics of your post I will let
Gilbert Menezes respond as he knows far more about
what the Indian Navy is up to than me.
>
We need to acknowledge that India is a very chaotic
democracy, with diverse and divergent views on
everything.  We just heard Big Tony describe where
people would refuse to support his interest in
political office because they would be unable to bribe
him.  If a majority think this way, then imagine how
difficult progress would be.  Every idea has it's
detractors and opponents.  India is the ultimate
sausage factory of democracy that Churchill talked
about.  In some areas progress is being made at light
speed.  In others in inches per decade.
>
But, please don't let me stop you from speaking your
mind.
>

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Re: [Goanet] Re: Let's Play this Game: Test of Reasoning (All about Goa) -II

[richard]

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21. Mogrim
22. Sal.
23. Panaji (Nova Goa)
24. Nuvem.
25. BSNL
26. Spicejet.
27. Corredinho.
28. Zagor.
29. Pune.
30. Raia-Shiroda.
31. Reuddio.
32. St. Agustine.
33. Korpet.
34. Alcohol.
35. Ladin.
Richard Cabral
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From: "JoeGoaUk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Re: Let's Play this Game: Test of Reasoning (All about
Goa) -II


> --
>  Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of
>Mapusa of the 1950s
>
>   http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426
> --
> Thanks to all those participated.
> I was happy to see such a response.
>
> But no one had more than 12 correct Ans. (out of 18)
>
> No. 12  no one had it right.
> So here I give the right answer.
> 12.Cansaulim, Verna, Majorda,..
> A.Dabolim  B.Varca  C.Benaulim  D.Curtorim
>
> Ans. is A ( All being Rly Stations)
>
> Here are some more:
>
> 21. Xeumtim, Abolim, Zayo,...
> A Lilly,   B. Mogrim  C. Rose   D.  Bogun Vila
>
> 22.  Zuari, Mandovi, Tiracol,
> A. Siridao,   B. CurcaC. Sal   D. Agassaim
>
> 23. Chandor, Goa-Velha, Old Goa,...
> A. St. Cruz  B. PanajiC.  CalafuraD. Santan
>
> 24. Kesarval, Verna, Sukolna,..
> A. NuvemB.Ana Font C. Benaulim   D. Raia
>
> 25. Idea, Reliance, Airtel,...
> A. Nokia,B.LG  C.Bsnl D.BT cellnet
>
> 26. GoAir, KingFisher, AirDeccan,...
> A. Swissair   B. Aeroflot   C.SpiceJet  D.Gulf Air
>
> 27. Deknni, Fugddi, Kunbhi,...
> A.TwistB. JiveC.Corredinho  D.Waltz
>
> 28. Tiatr, Natok, khell,...
> A. Concert   B. Dance   C. Zagor   D. Feast
>
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> 33. Vistid, Kamizol, Buluz,...
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[Goanet] Road Accidents ---an interesting discussion /Melinda Coutinho Powell

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Hi all,
It has been interesting to read different view points on "Goa's appalling
road sense"
Ive been living in Goa for seven years,and when I first began to drive
here(after driving in Bombay)I was horrified.Not  a single rule is
followed.Most people merely know to handle and manoeuvre their
vehicles,rules of the road are unheard of.To survive here,one has to be a
proactive driver.One has to be highly alert for violations of every known
driving rule possible.
The talking friend syndrome(2 bikers stop to chat in the middle of moving
traffic),the nod of the head(meaning you go first),cattle on the
streets,overtaking from the left,roundabout chaos,all this and more are a
part of driving in Goa.Highways where  speeding cars come hurtling at you
from the opposite side of the road are scary.
But one has to cope.It helps to be mobile.Retaining one's sanity while
driving  here is difficult..My kids have picked up the stream of invectives
I hurl on bad drivers.
What saddens me is the number of two wheeler accidents taking place
daily,and inevitably it is the youngsters who are dying.
I wish traffic education is introduced in  schools and colleges itself.

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[Goanet] ALERT:Authorities to crack whip on erring bus operators

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Assurances by the bus owners to strictly adhere to traffic rules
and regulations turned hollow after a group of college going
students complained of non-issuance of tickets by some of
the private operators.

And, what came as a big surprise is the lame excuse advanced
by the RTO, Enforcement Krishna Naik that the bus tickets are
under printing and that the local RTO office cannot enforce the
rules for want of a vehicle and manpower.

Finding this explanation untenable, local RTA Chairman and SDM,
Margao Suresh Pilarnekar has now decided to crack a whip against
erring bus operators for a fortnight, beginning from April 10.
Pilarnekar had a meeting with the general secretary of the Bus
Owners Association, Avinash Shirodkar and the RTO wherein
he made it amply clear that traffic indiscipline will never be tolerated
by his office.

In fact, the SDM issued a memorandum directing the RTO and the
Traffic Cell, Margao to maintain a strict check on public transport
operations. The memo has asked these officials to concentrate on
irregularities such as halting at places other than notified bus stops;
crawling on public roads; non-issuance of tickets, non-wearing of
uniforms and display of badges by drivers and conductors;
employment of boys below 18 years and carrying passengers
beyond the sanctioned capacity.

Both the Assistant Director and the Police Inspector are required
to submit a daily report to the SDM's office along with a brief note
on repeated offenders.
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Re: [Goanet] A dog by any name still smells...

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> A man's soul can be judged from the way he names his
> dog, no wonder the old 
> proverb "Give a dog a bad name and hang him". 


Cecil,
I still can't fathom whats your dilemma.
Perhaps the name you are searching for is Bar-B-Q?

Your welcome.

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[Goanet] 500th Birth Anniversary of St. Francis Xavier

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I saw some great pictures of the celebrations of the 500th birth anniversary of 
SFX in Old Goa.
They were great angle shots.
It appears to be a great ceremony and a well organized and disciplined crowd.
Speaks very highly of the Goan organizers of the event.

A few months ago I saw a posting of a similar celebration in Toronto by a Goan 
Jesuit priest.
No more news after that. I wonder what happened?
Kind Regards, GL

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[Goanet] DABOLIM (part 1)

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Thanks for having an open mind. I hope native Goans will do the same. After 
all, MOPA is for them and their children's benefit.  

I am uncertain about the new batkars who may benefit from owning land near the 
airport. Yet, do we deny the vast majority of Goans especially the North Goans 
of jobs and economic growth, now and future generations, just because of a few 
elements will make a quick buck?  
Remember the three stewards in the bible. It is never too late for all Goans to 
be like the smart and industrious steward.  Delhi could not give Goa a better 
gift. There are many ways to economic progress and prosperity, and all Goans 
can benefit from MOPA.

Please feel free to forward the posts on this subject. The power of information 
and the power of the net can influence people.  IMHO Goa's prosperity in the 
next century is on the line.  I am surprised that Goanetters were exercised 
about garbage collection (an important issue) but are laissez-faire about an 
economic milestone for the state.  Are the current well-to-do natives just 
going to leave this issue to the politicians? 
Kind Regards, GL

 Jerry Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Thanks. After a long time a fair portrayal of what MOPA is all about. It is
impossible to think otherwise what benefits one gets unless portrayed in a
fair way. During Portuguese time, many batkars came about, and now it will
be the second coming of batkars who have purchased plots near and about in
Pernem Taluka, but the benefits as you have shown are vast. Only hope Goans
will be the beneficiaries if Mopa Comes about.

Gilbert Lawrence:
I would think the cyber-Goans would follow the MOPA story with more factual
information than emotion or vested interest.
I agree that Goa needs a lot of local projects.
Local projects are paid for by local revenues (taxes).
Because of different funding sources, local projects (roads, electricity,
hospitals and schools built by local taxes) should not / will not be denied
or delayed because of MOPA.

The MOPA Airport is being PAID FOR BY the Central Government.
When Delhi spends an estimated 100-600 crore rupees, that is money disbursed
in Goan economy GENERATING LOCAL TAXES.
That money sooner or later will be available to build many local projects,
that we all want.
MOPA is also jobs for Goans (building and maintenance) who will then be less
dependent on foreigners or on migration.
How long will Goans be able to move to the Mid-East in search of jobs?
Goans going beyond the Middle East now is nearly ended except perhaps to
Portugal.

Finally many Goans complain that MOPA / North Goa will be a "mere transit"
and to benefit South Maharastra.  That's the precise benefit.
After all Goa flourished in the 15th to the 17th century because it was a
transit point for trade (and pilgrims to Mecca) between India and the rest
of the world.  This bonanza ended with Dutch and British blockade. After
that Portugal as a trading power declined.  Let's learn from Goan history,
including its two "golden periods".
Kind Regards, GL

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Re: [Goanet] Road accidents... an interesting discussion

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> Gabe,
You are right. In Goa, the traffic on the round-about
gives way to traffic on the road!! can you believe
that. So someone on the round-about stops, causing the
person behind to bump into them. When my younger
brother first did this, I thought he was mad. I
screamed in terror and asked him why he did it,
because being on the round-about he had right of way.
He said, have you seen the size of that truck? I
assume this is a rule "invented" by truckers, buses
and owners of vehicles with over-inflated ego. If you
are a tiny Maruti on the road, you pretty much 
give way to anyone and everyone. Traffic Rule No 1:
Right of way deemed by the size of your vehicle.
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> 
> RESPONSE: I am not sure whether the junction rule
> that applies in Canada is
> the same in the U.S.A. Where there are no lights,
> one comes to a full stop
> and then it is give way in order of priority. So
> first come first to exit.
> 
> In the U.K. the system here is to give way to
> traffic coming from the right
> ( we drive on the left of the road) At round abouts
> too, we give way to
> traffic on the right - traffic already on the round
> about, therefore has
> priority.
> 
> In Goa ( India ) it seems that traffic already on
> the round about has to
> give way to traffic coming straight forward! What a
> chaotic situation!
> 
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[Goanet] A Stop to RAGGING in Educational Institutions: Lessons for Goa

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CURE was started by two students in the year 2001 under the banner of
The NoRagging Group. We started with an Online Discussion group and
an informative website. From that time, we have come a long way and today
we are in process of joining an NGO as an independent unit under them.
We aspire to mature to an independent NGO by next year.

I will like to take you through our journey and activities across these three
years. For the first year CURE was basically an online group and extended
help by educating public about the phenomenon of ragging and extending support
to victims through emails.
In the year 2002, Harsh and Rajiv joined CURE and gave it a new lease of life.
At the same time, many dedicated members including Kiran, Rajan Srivastav,
etc. joined our group. This year and the coming year was an era of activity
which also led to the re-christening of The NoRagging Group to
Coalition to Uproot Ragging from Education.
Due to Rajan Srivastav, we were able to publish the story of Harsh far and
wide through an NGO magazine, thus making public more aware. Rajiv helped
us organizing a talk at Unnati's (NGO) Seminar. This paved way and CURE
addressed talk show on Sab TV, organized talk show for DD-Bharti, etc.
Today, CURE has matured, it has a clear understanding of what it wants to do,
what are its policies, has an organizational structure and a list of 
projects it

want to take-up.

Welcome to CURE, we require your support to end the menace of ragging.

CURE Principle

CURE is against severe physical and sexual ragging, while we are open
to discussion on mild forms of ragging.

Objectives of CURE

Ø Dent the public opinion about ragging by spreading awareness.
Ø Maintain a record of ragging incidents, news, measures, etc. to
create a permanent reference.
Ø Convince faculty and institutions to start Anti-Ragging Programmes.
Ø To devise alternate interesting means of interaction between
freshers and seniors.
Ø Prevent ragging by setting up CURE Student Chapters at colleges.
Ø Counsel victims and help them get justice.

Implementation Projects

Ø Publication of a periodical to update you about ragging.
Ø Maintenance of the online website with constant updating.
Ø Arrange talks at colleges, NGO seminars.
Ø Establishment of Student Chapters at colleges.
Ø Arrange an all-India essay competition on ragging to divert attention
of public towards ragging.
Ø F-CURE: Arrange a network of faculty cooperation across India to
prevent ragging.
Ø Arrange a mega-seminar on ragging.
Ø Try to put-up an activist movement
to get justice to ragging victims.

How we work at CURE?

CURE has a hierarchy on the lines of NGOs, which gets elected democratically
annually. The idea of hierarchy is to streamline energy and reach decisions,
while management is very flexible.
CURE members have brainstormed many projects as noted in the previous
section. CURE looks for people who could get involved in these projects (or
conceptualize new ones) as conveners or volunteers.
These project are/will be managed by conveners independently with support
from all CURE members.

What CURE is looking for?

Volunteers for taking movement against ragging forward.
Financial Aid for financing various CURE projects.
Reciprocal links with educational institutions and organizations.

Did you know that...

CURE has evolved from an initial membership of just 4 to 170 members.
CURE has chapters at Delhi, Bombay, Pune, Kanpur and (soon in) Bangalore.
The CURE website is the only online dedicated forum to condemn ragging.
CURE has contact with noted psychiatrist, Dr. V. M. Sharma, Vimhans for
online counseling of victims.

CURE has presented seminars at Unnati (NGO), organised DD-Bharti Show, etc.

CURE had actively pursued Harsh's case through letters and emails to serve a

[Goanet] (newest) Young Tiatrist - Meet Master Aaron

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(newest) Young Tiatrist - Meet Master Aaron

Check this newest addition to our young tiatrists.

Meet Master Aaron - the brother of Master Aliston.

It was really fun watching him on stage for the first time.

Congratulations to their proud parents.

Those of you from Goa, wishes to see Master Aaron ( and Aliston, Jr, Chico and
others young female tiatrists etc) on stage, may still do  so by going for 
tiatr 
'DUKH NASTANA SUKH NAM' by Anthony Sylvester.
Few shows in Goa after Easter. See Herald for details.


See Aaron going Solo
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Aaron in Trio - Aliston-Aaron-Jr.Chico
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See Aaron in action in group of five young Tiatrists
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RE: [Goanet] Road accidents... an interesting discussion

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From: Gabe Menezes
In Goa ( India ) it seems that traffic already on the round about has to
give way to traffic coming straight forward! What a chaotic situation! 

Folks,

I agree that the roundabout rule in confusing and equally unnerving is
the apparent practice that traffic joining a major road had precedence
to traffic already on it.  This is particularly the case when the side
road meets the main one at an acute angle!

To Fred's list  I suggest adding:

Introduce traffic lights at busy road junctions and pedestrian
intersections 
Publish detailed road maps and provide road signage to guide visitors 
Introduce Speed Detector Cameras
Enforce the law regarding use of  all front and rear lights when
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[Goanet] FW: Direct flights from Gulf States to Goa

[Mario Vicente Santos Pereira]

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Dear all,
I feel all Gulf people will be happy and prefer if we have direct flight
from all the Gulf States as some  already operates i.e Indian Airlines and
Air India from Kuwait and Dubai to Goa. I hope the prayer will be heard  by
the Authority and all the best will be done to  fly direct flights to Gulf
returnees who visit Goa during their vacation or annual holidays without
any hardships/delays in Bombay Airport. Plese support your.

DIRECT FLIGHTS KUWAIT-GOA-KUWAIT - Indian Airlines operates two direct
flight to and from Goa / Kuwait / Goa on Friday / Saturday and Monday /
Tuesday. And Air India operates one flight Bombay / Goa / Dubai / Kuwait on

Wednesday (arrival and return on same day). This flight operated by Air
India,
being only one per week and also in between the week, is very inconvenient
to
Goans in Kuwait as well as in Dubai. Several requests to increase Air India

flights to two, with one flight departure from Kuwait on Thursday and
arrival
from Goa on Friday, and the other flight any day in between the week has
not
yet materialized. This issue needs to be studied and suitable steps taken
for
the benefits of Goa bound passengers which could even help in boosting
tourism
from the Gulf countries. If Air India is not interested in rescheduling
their
flight and introducing an additional direct flight to Goa, other Airlines
from
the Gulf countries, viz. Kuwait Airways, Gulf Air, Emirates Airlines, Air
Arabia, Oman Air, Qatar Airways should be given the option to operate
direct
flights to Goa, in accordance with the open sky policy in place in India.

Mr. Franco D'Souza, Mr. Caetano Pinheiro also highlighted the
inconveniences
caused to passengers due to non-confirmation of return seats at the time of

booking from Kuwait to Goa. They also contended that the fares charged are
high as compared to other sectors and solicited the intervention of the Goa

NRI Facilitation Centre in lowering the fares and providing relief to the
passengers. Many a times checked baggage was left behind at Kuwait and only

sent to Goa on their next flight thereby causing undue hardships to the
passengers who might be going to Goa with special occasion clothing etc.
This
issue too should be addressed and sorted out to avoid inconvenience to
passengers.
Regards,
Mario V. S. Pereira,
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[Goanet] Re: Let's Play this Game: Test of Reasoning (it's all

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thanks Jerry.

You have a few wrongs.

See the one posted with ans/reasons on Goanet/Sarabond.

Thanks once again.

You too are a true Goan.

Keep it up.

Thanks once again for your usual support.

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> Hello Joe
> These are the answers to your Test of Reasoning) Dont know how many are
> right.
> 
> Jerry Fernanes
> 
> 
> Let's Play this Game:  Test of Reasoning (it's all about Goa)
> 
> Try to complete the series/sequence by choosing one amongst the 4 possible
> answers.
> Here are 2 examples:
> e.g.1.
> Bombay, Banglore, Trivendrum,...
> A.Pune B.Kochin C. Panaji D. Karwar
> 
> e.g.2.
> Rs.500, Rs.100, Rs.50 ...
> A.Rs.40 B.Rs.30 C.Rs.15 D.Rs.20
> 
> Ans: 1
> What could be the right ans to complete the series or sequence ?
> Right Ans. would be C.Panaji
> Panaji being capital of Goa, so also Bombay to Maharastra, Bangalore to
> Karnataka &
> Trivendrum to Kerala.
> 
> Ans.2
> What could be the next (note) ?
> Ans: D Rs.20
> Because currency notes in denomination of 500/100/50/20
> 
> Now, try to complete the rest as below:
> 
> 3. Salcette, Mormagoa, Pernem,..
> A.Margao B.Raia C.Quepem D.Varca
> 
> 
> 
> Quepem ( these are the Talukas of Goa)
> 
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[Goanet] Contacto Goa, Episode 6, latest timing changes (Sat, Apr 8)!!!

[Desmond Nazareth]

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All:
 
Here we go again, RTP keeps changing and we try to give you the latest!
 
RTP International:
 
 INDIA timings, latest (as of Sat, Apr 8 morning):
  SUN, Apr 9 at 6:35PM
  MON, Apr 10 at 8:50AM
 
RTP AFRICA:
 
 LISBOA timings, latest (as of Sat, Apr 8 morning):
  SUN, Apr 9 at 5:50PM
 
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[Goanet] The exile is over

[D'Souza, Avelino]

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HindustanTimes.com
Saturday, April 8, 2006|01:14 IST
By Siddharth Dhanvant Shanghvi

An essay, in a British newspaper, announced the fate of the Indian novel: it 
now lay in the hands of the Indian diaspora writer. 

Outside of a few novelists from India who had won major foreign prizes and 
scaled international bestseller lists, no one else, the essayist said, had 
produced work that could match up to such success.

On the other hand, Americans and Britishers of Indian extraction would save the 
Indian novel since their books had won prizes and been reprinted several times.

I reject such reductive analysis. To reduce literary accomplishment to 
bestseller lists signals an ungenerous imagination. To measure a book's success 
by the awards it garners is to succumb to the inertia of vanity (as James 
English suggests so brilliantly in The Economy of Prestige, his tome on 
contemporary prize culture). Besides, not all of us are gunning for the Booker 
Prize; and as audiences here grow and evolve, the call on a readership outside 
India diminishes.

Most crucially, a writer's engagement with solitude is her most momentous 
success; what occurs in the process is arbitrary, scintillating, complicated. 
But the sheer act of withdrawing from the world if only to engage with it with 
detached coherence and deliberate rage is, in itself, a triumph.  The new 
novelists of our soil, I have a sense, are waiting, watching: time is the womb 
of narrative. The last decade has been so monumentally transformative for 
India-financially, politically, culturally-that our writers are still recoiling 
from the glare of revolution. 

How did we go from Buniyaad to Baywatch in the blink of a decade's eyelid? Why 
do we get so excited over call centres even as HIV swims unchecked through the 
nation's bloodstream?  Once we recover from the pathology of such ironies, the 
spectacular neurosis of modern India is certain to be illuminated in a novel.  
Conversely, as national boundaries blur, as the monster of globalisation leaves 
Goa indistinguishable from Brighton, diaspora writers may run out of the 
immigrant angst they've successfully funneled so far (often with 
heart-quickening panache; often with gut-sickening cliché).

On the home front, the West no longer holds the gloss and promise it once did 
(besides, if we wanted to move to a dictator regime we wouldn't have to go as 
far as America; Myanmar is right around the corner). If the notion of 'exile' 
could be retired in our hyper-jet era, then the Indian novelist must confront 
the reality of home and its discontents. And discontent, arguably, is more 
inspiring than its opposite. Can I trust the courts in Delhi? Will my brother 
and his boyfriend find happiness in Bangalore?  I want to quit my husband 
because I'm in lust with a younger man.  Some very contemporary, universal 
questions will find very unique, 'village' answers here - answers certain to 
baffle the heart, intrigue the imagination, astonish the mind.  

The novel, essentially a Western creation, discovered stamina, restoration and 
mischief in India: a plot-driven narrative, with an emphasis on character, was 
revived by the multi-lingual theatrics of our storytellers. 

In Indian hands, the English language was caressed with sadness (as Arundhati 
Roy did in The God of Small Things), smoothened into a level sheet of workman's 
metal (as Rohinton Mistry does in his consistently satisfying oeuvre) and 
excited by verbal pyrotechnics (as Salman Rushdie achieved in his preliminary 
novels).  If the Indian story has been told and retold, then it is time to lay 
claim on how it is told: or rather, how it was.  Maybe that's why the iPod's 
capacity to transmit stories fascinates me.

In part, my affection for the iPod is subliminal: a dorky writer chalks up a 
few hipster points by cozying up to trimmings of cool.  On another level, the 
idea that we might listen to stories - as opposed to reading them - is a 
triumphant return of the oral narrative. Handed down from tongue to ear, the 
story - audibly performed - carries the chorus of history. The Ramayana was an 
oral epic; stories out of the Kathasaritasagara were structured for vocal 
transmission. Although 'books on tape' are old hat, the iPod - with its 
radically accessible podcasting vocabulary - is sure to rearrange the novel's 
furniture. Jason Epstein - legendary American publisher, virtual inventor of 
the quality paperback - in his memoir Book Business: Publishing: Past, Present 
And Future predicted the e-book would change publishing forever. Is it possible 
that Epstein's augury - publish-per-demand as the future of publishing - mig

[Goanet] RE: Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document.....Rau Re!

[jose colaco]

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From: ralph rau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Portuguese passport is a superior travel document to the Indian passport.


Here are the FACTS.

Portuguese passport holders DO NOT require a visa to travel to the major 
economic powers including United States, Canada, all of Europe, Australia & 
New Zealand, Japan, United Kingdom.>



Dear Ralph,

While what you (and others) have noted about the advantages of the 
Portuguese Passport over the Indian one (for purposes of travel) is correct 
in large measure, the above FACTS, may in FACT be untrue wrt Australia, and 
"qualified" wrt New Zealand and the US.


1. wrt US : Portugal is indeed one of the Visa Waiver countries...but there 
are NEW requirements wrt the type of Passport (machine readable) that is 
needed. (soon...biometric passports will be needed)


2. wrt New Zealand:

Portuguese passport holders must also have the RIGHT to live permanently in 
Portugal. (whatever that means)


http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/visit/visitors/canivisitnz/allaboutvisasandpermits/dontneedavisa/

3. wrt Australia (BEFORE somebody makes Travel Plans without obtaining a 
Visa)


Portuguese Passport holders (like others) WILL require a visa to enter into 
Australia UNLESS they also are  New Zealand/AUS passport holders or are 
continuing  journey within 8 hours of arrival, hold a valid onward ticket 
and are not leaving the transit lounge


http://www.visas-australia.com/visas/visa-requirements.asp

I stand corrected if I am incorrect

good wishes

jc

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[Goanet] licenses required for a shack or bar and restaurant in goa and how to get it

[vincent mascarenhas]

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respected sir/madam,
 please give me all the advise and information
required regarding my quries
1> which licenes are required .
2> how can i get it .
3> who has the power to allote it.
4> how much do i have to pay for it.
5> time duration of the licenses.
6> how to renew it.
7> how much time it will take for the holl procedure. 
kindly help me ,please do the needful.
   Thanking you,
  mascarenhas vincent.

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[Goanet] A dog by any name still smells...

[Cecil Pinto]

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A dog by any name still smells...
Perils of dog naming in Goa.
By Cecil Pinto

Last month, in her infinite wisdom, my wife brought home a cute puppy from 
her sister's place. "The boys just love it", she said, as though that 
answered the hundred-and-one questions racing through my mind, chief among 
them being, "How exactly, with our hectic lifestyle, are we supposed to 
accommodate a puppy in a tiny first floor apartment?". But like millions of 
practical husbands over the globe, and in the interests of world peace, I 
acquiesced to at least make a sincere attempt at seeing if we could manage 
to raise a puppy. Besides, I must admit, she was quite a cutie pie, with a 
feisty prance, smooth brown fur and 'please someone love me' eyes. She? Did 
I just say she?!! Yes, to confound the complications it was a female puppy. 
My wife's reaction to my shock was quite logical, "If nobody adopts female 
puppies then they will have to be put to sleep. Then there will be a gender 
imbalance, and you know what happens then". Although I don't quite know 
'what happens then' the logic was infallible and I gave in.


Through the first days of sleepless nights due to whimpering, piss all over 
the floor, enforced early-morning and late-night walks, tattered sandals 
and mauled furniture, I just about retained my sanity. The more imposing 
challenge to my mental facilities and diplomacy skills was the procedure of 
naming the puppy. Now understand one thing. The complicated process of 
naming one's child, which I have been through twice, is a cakewalk compared 
to the naming of a puppy. For starters take this simple fact. With a child 
your choice is limited to a finite number of 'conventional' established 
human names. In a pinch you can even name your child after a recently 
deceased rich relative and possibly rake in a substantial inheritance, or 
usurped Communidade land, if your timing is right.  But with dogs this is 
just not the case.


The range of possible dog names is as only as vast as one's imagination. 
You cannot possibly name your child Lassie or Snoopy or Pluto without 
attracting strange looks at the Civil Registrar's office but you can assign 
these names to a puppy without anyone batting an eyelid. And when the 
puppies grow into full fledged dogs these same names will not seem out of 
place. But, after a traumatised childhood, you can well imagine that your 
daughter named Lassie will not be able to attract anything better than, 
well to be frank, dogs! "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any 
other name would smell as sweet", said the Bard of Avon in Romeo & Juliet. 
That's all very well, but you try to get a decent dowry for your son named 
Snoopy. Anyway, let's not digress into human names. The point I am trying 
to make is that the choice of names available for dogs is bewildering.


Join me on a meandering walk through this fascinating, yet frustrating, 
exercise in naming a Goan dog. But before we go there; do dogs have an 
ethnicity? Are there Goan dogs and non-Goan dogs? Are there outsiders and 
insiders? Can we embrace a German Shepherd and welcome him into our home 
and yet deny a Keralite a postman's job. And do dogs have religion? Is my 
puppy a Catholic or a Hindu? Do I have the right to raise him in the 
religion of my choice without his explicit content? Worth a study at some 
later date, I'm sure.


Food & Beverages rank first in dog name choices. Does Bebinca sound sweeter 
than Sorpatel? Mix-Bhaji-Panv? Would Lassi be the equivalent of Lassie? 
Curds anyone? Samosa? Biryani? Xacuti? What if I name her Dodol and she 
grows up to be thin? Will Osano turn out a has-bean? Will Mirsang be hot? 
Chouris too oily? Visvon and Balchao are more appropriate for a cat. What 
if it turns out, my Vindalo has fat? Caju Feni sounds real cool, specially 
pronounced Fanny. Half-Quarter Soda could be quite a mouthful, but Urrack 
is worth trying. Vino Branco perhaps to show some refinement?


Can I name my puppy after a place? Will Aldona have grace? Will Moira 
foretell madness or Benaulim disgrace? Dona Paula seems so elite, yet 
Porvorim has no character. And a name like Altinho could lead to 
environmental disaster. Bhatlem, Naikawaddo and Gaunsavaddo are too common 
place. And a name like Boa da Vaca suggests superior race. Will Mopa 
disappear with just wishful thinking? Perhaps Tambdi Mati...


Makes me wonder whether a puppy's colour, physical appearance or 
characteristic behaviour could decide the name? Brownie and Blackie are too 
anglicised and not really Spot on. Boner could be miscons

[Goanet] A New Generation of Pilgrims Hits India's Hippie Trail

[D'Souza, Avelino]

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A New Generation of Pilgrims Hits India's Hippie Trail
New York Times 

Travel in the News "There ain't nothing like this in the real world!" she 
sing-shouts, flinging her strawberry-blond hair as an Indian-British-Iranian 
backing band called Sattva (Sanskrit for "righteousness") kicks out a wailing 
funk jam. The beer-drinking throng, which appears to include European rock 
chicks with nose rings, goateed Israeli beatniks, Australian Green Party voters 
and a miscellaneous coterie of hipster backpackers in every imaginable type of 
sandal, nods in rhythm as the music resounds along Anjuna Beach.  "Come to Goa! 
Change your mind! Change your way!"

There ain't nothing like this in the real world. Come to Goa. Change your mind. 
 Change your way. It's hard to imagine a better jingle for this sandy strip of 
India's western coast, a venerable Catholic-Hindu enclave where American 
hippies came to turn on, tune in and drop out in the late 1960's, and where 
globe-trotting spiritual seekers, party kids, flag-wavers of the counterculture 
and refugees from the real world have fled ever since.  It's a place where the 
palm trees bear a strange fruit -fliers for crystal therapy, Ayurvedic healing 
and rave parties - and every road seems to lead to an organic restaurant or 
massage clinic. At the yoga centers, postures are manipulated by top Indian and 
international instructors. In clubs, where trance music is the favored genre, 
D.J.'s carrying myriad passports provide the mix.  Bodies receive needle-inked 
adornments at skin-art parlors; minds seek enlightenment, or at least 
expansion, at many meditation clinics.  

Foreigners have flocked to tiny Goa - whose statewide population of 1.4 million 
is about one-tenth that of Mumbai, 300 miles north - ever since the Portuguese 
established a Spice Route colony there in the 1500's. The port flourished into 
one of Asia's most splendid cities before disease, vice and trade competition 
sank its fortunes. (Its remains are still visible in Old Goa, a Unesco World 
Heritage Site near the current state capital, Panjim.) 

The Indian Army seized Goa from Portugal in 1961. But new colonists, the 
Haight-Ashbury crowd, soon showed up. Seduced by the same landscapes that 
appeared in Portuguese spyglasses centuries earlier - untouristed beaches, 
green jungle, dramatic cliffs - the former flower children traveled overland on 
"magic buses" from Europe and created in northern Goa a free-spirited, 
budget-friendly new world among the laid-back native Goans. The village of 
Anjuna became its wildly spinning center, with the quieter communities of 
Arambol and Vagator emerging as hemp-clad satellites.

Since then, each generation of global nomads has carved its niche: New Age 
devotees of the 1980's; global ravers and electromusic pioneers of the 1990's 
(who initiated a tradition of all-night beach parties and made Goa trance music 
a worldwide phenomenon); and the yogaphiles and Burning Man groupies of today.  
The result is the globe's most enduring and constantly adapting tropical 
getaway for alternative living. When the summer monsoon blows past, the world's 
fringes unite.

"Goa is a paradise that is accessible to one and all, in true Indian style: 
age, shape, color, size, planet," said Deepti Datt, a filmmaker who splits her 
time between Goa, Bombay and Southern California. Her restaurant and D.J. bar, 
Axirvaad (Sanskrit for "blessing"), was long a legend for its "lounge groove 
space temple" nights. (The restaurant, temporarily closed, will relocate in the 
Goan village of Tiracol next year.) Goa, she goes on, "is a happy playground 
for grown-ups."

On a Wednesday in November, a chain of minivan taxis and autorickshaws is 
disgorging bodies into Goa's most celebrated playground, the weekly Anjuna flea 
market. Started decades ago by Anjuna's hippie community (for whom it was a 
vital form of income), the humble local enterprise has mushroomed into a 
sprawling international affair. Many of the hundreds of closely packed stalls 
are now run by vociferous sari-clad Indian women in jingling jewelry, but the 
carnivalesque atmosphere has multiplied. "Look at my shop! Look at my shop!" 
they beckon, all smiles. "Sir! Sir! Sir! Sir! Sir!" Navigating the come-ons is 
the latest wave of Anjuna's antiestablishment arrivals, from ponytailed Finnish 
rockers to cornrowed Iranian girls. Mixed within the throng is another curious 
species: middle-aged European package tourists. (The towns of Baga and 
Calangute, just south of Anjuna, have exploded into an Indian Cancún in recent 
years, troubling their northern neighbors.)

Travel in the News Byzantium, William Butler Yeats famo

[Goanet] Re: Let's Play this game........ Answers - Congratulations to Sarabond

[JoeGoaUk]

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Well done Sarabond,
I am really impressed.
No one had all correct yet though
You have all correct except one (No12 see my Part II posted earlier)

btw, what reason would you give for your No.12 ans ? or was it a guess ?

Thanks once again.

You really are a TRUE Goan.

Thanks to others too for participating.
Hoping for your feedback on Game Part Two.

See Ans/reasons belows.

--- sarabond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now, try to complete the rest as below:
> 
> 3. Salcette, Mormagoa, Pernem,..
> A.Margao B.Raia C.Quepem D.Varca..Ans - C
Reason: All Being Goa's Talukas
> 
> 4. C Alvares, Jacinto Vaz, Robin Vaz...
> A.Prem Kumar B.M Boyer C.Remie Colaco D.Alfred Rose   ...Ans - D
Reason: All tiatrists being dead.
> 
> 5. Xacuti, cheurisam, Addmas,...
> A.Chicken Tikka B.Butter Chicken C.Sorpotel D.Mutton  ...Ans - C
> Reason: All being Goan speciality

> 6. Soirik, Mando, Bhikream Jevonn,..
> A.Picnic B.Carnaval C.Fest D.Honey Moon...Ans - D
Reason: All being wedding Related.
> 
> 7. Boglantt, Nirmoll, Amchem Noxib,..
> A.Sholay B.Ghantt C.Padri  D.Socorin   Ans - C
(All being Konkani Films)
> 
> 8. Miramar, Colva, Baga,..
> A.Porvorim B.Calangute C.Nuvem D.PondaAns - B
(All Goa beaches)
> 
> 9. Pinagr, Dodol, Bebinca,..
> A.Jelobi B.Mysore Park C.Gulab Jamoon D.Neurio  ..  Ans - D
(All Goan speciality)
> 
> 10.Miguel, Mario, Eddie,..
> A.Amitab B.Domnic C.Tom D. Harry.. Ans.- B
(All being popular Gonetters)
> 
> 11.Tiracol, Aguad, Cabo de Rama,..
> A.Velsao B.Chandor C.Reis Magos D.Cuelim .. Ans - C
(All are known Goas Forts)
> 
> 12.Cansaulim, Verna, Majorda,..
> A.Dabolim B.Varca C.Benaulim D.Curtorim ...  Ans - C (Wrong)
(Correct Ans. A Dabolim)
(All being Rly Stations)

> 
> 13.National, Vishant, Alankar,...
> A.Inox B.GVN C.Lata D. Osia . Ans - C
(all being oldest Cinema houses in Goa)
> 
> 14.Mangoes, Cajus, Jackfruits,..
> A.Apples B.Grapes C.Water Melons D.Oranges....  Ans - C
(Goa's fruits)
> 
> 15.Churchil, Barbosa, Sashikala,..
> A.Felip Neri B.F.Silveira C.Ravi Naik D.Monte Cruz  . Ans - C
(All are Ex CMs)
> 
> 16.Jusephine, Anotonete, Ophelia,..
> A.Janet  B. Annie C.Sabina D.Felcy   . .. Ans - C
(all are senior female Tiatrists)
> 
> 17.Manish, Amit, Sunil,...
> A.Mario B.Lucio C.Jilio D.Eusebio  ...  Ans - D
(All names hit the Goa News)
> 
> 18.St. Jancinto, Divar, Chorao,..
> A.Lakshadwip B.Andaman C.Dona Paula. D.Anjediv  Ans - D
(Goa's Islands)
> 
> 19.Damania, Konkan Shankti, Sarita,...
> A.Santa Monica B.Caravela C.Konkan Sevak D. Paradise.  Ans - C
( ships that ply goa-bombay-goa in the past)
> 
> 20.Betim, Tiracol, Betul,...
> A.Cortalim B.Utorda C.Nagoa D. Sancoale...  Ans - A
(all being ferry crossing points)
> 
> That's it for now.
> Please come back even if you answer a few.
> 
> Thanks for your support.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [Goanet] Re: indo-french exercises

[Nasci Caldeira]

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Mario,

I, Nasci have every right to give advice, as best as I can, in the interest 
of Goa and of India, to the governments and to the' Naval Air' stationed in 
Goa. Why not.


When I was resident in Goa, in the Seventies and Eighties; (before that I 
was resident in Bombay's Bandra) one of my beautiful sister in laws met and 
married one of the Naval Flying Cadre, stationed at Dabolim. These two used 
to come on their 300cc Royal Enfield , every weekend without fail and give 
us good company in my ancestral home in Cavelossim, the house that I 
modernised and lived it up, in. Then on accasions we used to visit the Navy 
area, and come to know a lot of the Navy guys and the Navy functions. My sis 
in law played golf and used to win every time, over the other Naval ladies/ 
girls.


It was also around this time that 'Sea Bird' in Karwar was thought off, and 
the budget alloted and construction commissioned. Hence my advice to the 
Navy to get packing to where they belong, namely 'Sea Bird'. The very name 
suggests that, that is where the Navy is meant to FLY from. OK??


This momentuous decision was taken, because the Defence people knew that 
Dabolim was a Civilian area and had to be alloted back for sole civilian 
use. Perhaps Gilbert Menezes knows about this and my sis in law too. But 
that is another matter.


Is it that you are incapable of giving any 'good' advice; that you are 
wasting our time and bandwith on just criticising what others are writing. 
Why do you not take up a topic and start writing something original? One is 
free to give advice to wherever one thinks advice is required. What is wrong 
with that? Yes, because I am living in an advanced country, I have the duty 
to give advice; so that one day, our Goa and India will be advanced to the 
advantage of all its residents.
Please do nor equate me with Bernado. We are two different individuals, with 
opposing views on India and the World and the USA.

With regards!

Nascimento Caldeira
Melbourne
Down Under


Mario wrote:


Isn't Goanet great?  Here we have Bernardo, a die-hard
Portophile who lives in distant, China-dominated
Macau, dreaming of the good old days, and Nasci, who
lives in equally distant Australia, providing advice
on what's appropriate for Goa to those who live there,
including advice on what the Indian Navy should do to
an ex-Indian Navyman.




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Re: [Goanet] Mindless Bashing: re Portuguese Passports

[Mario Goveia]

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--- Francis Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Mario,
> 
> 'In alio pediculum, in te ricinum non vides !'
> 
> Question: Have you ever considered a brain -
> transplant ?
> 
> 'Argumentam ad ignorantiam !'
> 
> Gary.
> 
Mario responds:
>
Hey, whoever you are,
If you had the guts to come out from hiding, use your
own e-mail address, and have some specific points to
make, so we know whether you have understood the
issue, perhaps I will answer your question.
>


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Re: [Goanet]From Tony Correia-Afonso

[Mario Goveia]

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>> Dear Bonefacio Lopes,
> You ask me what I have done to "set matters
> right" in Goa.
> It is not in my nature to boast about my modest
> achievements
> in the field of public service in Goa - I leave such
> activity to our 
> professional politicians who take up full-page
> advertisements in 
> the papers to do so on their respective birthdays!
> However, your challenge leaves me no option but
> to respond.
>
Mario asks:
>
Bonefacio, NOW do you see why I respectfully call him
Big Tony?  He has forgotten more about doing public
service than most critics will ever learn.  He has
also issued a challenge to you younger guys at the
end.  Are you up to the challenge?
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[Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants & OCI status - final

[Mario Goveia]

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--- Mario Goveia  wrote:
>
> Who am I to question your personal experience? 
> However, I don't believe any US Immigration official
> would pick the Indian passport last - just the
> opposite, because his physician, friend's or
> relative's physician, his old professor, childrens's
> school teacher or professor, children's school or
> college mate and head of the class, local
> storekeeper, local hotelier, etc. is highly likely 
> to be an Indian.
>
Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote:
>
That, Mario, is your opinion, not a fact. Personal
experiences count. 
>
Mario responds:
>
Gabriel, how would you know whether my above opinion
is not a fact?
>
I understand from the personal experience of many
Goanetters that a Portuguese passport holder does not
require visas from several countries, whereas Indian
passport holders still require visas which is an
inconvenience.  I accept that as a fact.
>
What I was talking about was the growing respect for
Indians in many countries, especially the US, where
Indians have been ranked No.1 by family income per
ethnic group since 1980.  I gave examples of why. 
This was not the case when I came here 35 years ago,
and is certainly not the case in most other countries,
though I understand that Indians are taking over
England:-))
>
On the other hand Portuguese illegals are being
deported, even from immigrant-friendly Canada, which
gives political asylum to almost anyone, in droves. 
This is also a fact.
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[Goanet] Let's Play this Game: Test of Reasoning (it's all

[Jerry Fernandes]

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Hello Joe
These are the answers to your Test of Reasoning) Dont know how many are right.
 
Jerry Fernanes

Let's Play this Game:  Test of Reasoning (it's all about Goa)

Try to complete the series/sequence by choosing one amongst the 4 possible 
answers.
Here are 2 examples:
e.g.1 .
Bombay, Banglore, Trivendrum,...
A.Pune B.Kochin C. Panaji D. Karwar

e.g.2.
Rs.500, Rs.100, Rs.50 ...
A.Rs.40 B.Rs.30 C.Rs.15 D.Rs.20

Ans: 1
What could be the right ans to complete the series or sequence ? 
Right Ans. would be C.Panaji
Panaji being capital of Goa, so also Bombay to Maharastra, Bangalore to 
Karnataka &
Trivendrum to Kerala.

Ans.2
What could be the next (note) ?
Ans: D Rs.20 
Because currency notes in denomination of 500/100/50/20 

Now, try to complete the rest as below:

3. Salcette, Mormagoa, Pernem,.. 
A.Margao B.Raia C.Quepem D.Varca

 

Quepem ( these are the Talukas of Goa)

4. C Alvares, Jacinto Vaz, Robin Vaz... 
A.Prem Kumar B.M Boyer C.Remie Colaco D.Alfred Rose 

 

Prem Kumar ( possible tiatrists from Salcette?)

5. Xacuti, cheurisam, Addmas,... 
A.Chicken Tikka B.Butter Chicken C.Sorpotel D.Mutton 

 

Mutton? ( Xacuti is Chicken, Cheurisam is Pork, Add mas can be Beef, so the 
missing one is Mutton) 

6. Soirik, Mando, Bhikream Jevonn,.. 

A.Picnic B.Carnaval C.Fest D.Honey Moon

 

HoneyMoon 

7. Boglantt, Nirmoll, Amchem Noxib,.. 
A.Sholay B.Ghantt C.Padri  D.Socorin

 

Padri ( movies in Konkani)

8. Miramar, Colva, Baga,.. 

A.Porvorim B.Calangute C.Nuvem D.Ponda

 

Calangute ( Beaches of Goa)

9. Pinagr, Dodol, Bebinca,.. 
A.Jelobi B.Mysore Park C.Gulab Jamoon D.Neurio

 

Neurio ( the Sweets of Goa ) 

10.Miguel, Mario, Eddie,.. 
A.Amitab B.Domnic C.Tom D. Harry

 

Domnic ( the famous writers of Goanet)

11.Tiracol, Aguad, Cabo de Rama,.. 
A.Velsao B.Chandor C.Reis Magos D.Cuelim

 

Reis Magos ( Forts of Goa) 

12.Cansaulim, Verna, Majorda,..

 A.Dabolim B.Varca C.Benaulim D.Curtorim

 

Benaulim? ( Not sure of this one)

13.National, Vishant, Alankar,... 

A.Inox B.GVN C.Lata D. Osia

 

Inox ( Theatres in Goa)

14.Mangoes, Cajus, Jackfruits,.. 
A.Apples B.Grapes C.Water Melons D.Oranges.

 

Water Melon ( fruits of Goa)

15.Churchil, Barbosa, Sashikala,.. 
A.Felip Neri B.F.Silveira C.Ravi Naik D.Monte Cruz

 

Ravi Naik ( Chief ministers of Goa


16.Jusephine, Anotonete, Ophelia,.. 
A.Janet  B. Annie C.Sabina D.Felcy

 

Sabina But than it can be also Felcy, ( the actresses of Goa)

17.Manish, Amit, Sunil,...
A.Mario B.Lucio C.Jilio D.Eusebio

 

Not sure

18.St. Jancinto, Divar, Chorao,.. 
A.Lakshadwip B.Andaman C.Dona Paula. D.Anjediv

 

Anjediv ( Islands of Goa) but then you missed Corjuem 

19.Damania, Konkan Shankti, Sarita,... 
A.Santa Monica B.Caravela C.Konkan Sevak D. Paradise 

 

Konkan Sevak ( ships best transport to go to Bombay)

20.Betim, Tiracol, Betul,...

 A.Cortalim B.Utorda C.Nagoa D. Sancoale.

 

Nagoa 

That's it for now.
Please come back even if you answer a few.

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[Goanet] CYBERMATRIMONIALS

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[Goanet] Fact-finding committee report on Sanvordem violence

[Vidyadhar Gadgil]

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The fact-finding committee report is available on-line at a temporary
URL.

PDF version (with annexures):

http://mum1ww1-a.sancharnet.in:83/vgad/brpeace.pdf

Plain-text version (without annexures)

http://mum1ww1-a.sancharnet.in:83/vgad/brokenpeacerep

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[Goanet] Tiatr 'Sonvsar Sudhorlo '

[Sonvsar Sudhorlo]

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   Sonvsar Sudhorlo 

M. BOYER zaun asa poilo Goenkar tiatrist Bharatacho  
‘Sangeet Natak Akademi Award’ favo zavpak, ani gelea
vorsak Raxtripotichea hatatlean unchlo moladik
Padmashree puroskar ghevpak. 

28 vorsam odik akh’khea Goeant ani Mumboint gazlolo M.
Boyera-cho tiatr Sonvsar Sudhorlo itlea vorsamnim Anil
Kumar-an fuddakar gheun porot ekdam Konknni palkar
dakhoilo ani Goeanchea charui konxeanim gazoilo. 

Hea tiatra vixim lokachea monantli axea azun vhochunk
na mhonn tiatrache proig zalele kodden tiatr
pollenanramchi godhi zatali tem nigut distalem.
Khub zannanim ho tiatr pollela khoro punn kalche,
aiche ani faleanche pillgek lagu zatele kanniecher
ataplelean toch lok anik ek pavtti ho tiatr pollevnk
fattim ravlo na.

Hea tiatrant, adlea tiatristamnim mullak bhumika
kelele tantuntle choddxe hea sonvsarant uronk nant,
punn atam jea tiatristamnim teoch bhumika kelea te
tiatrist khuinch unnem poddonk nant mhonn tiatr
vosreant tiatr pollenanranchea talleancho avaz
gomoitalo. 

Sonvsar Sudorlo tiatrantle kaim ‘kant’ itle gazle, ki
he kant choltana, holantlo lok te kant gavpi kolakaram
vangdda gavpak laglo. Chodd korun ‘Doti magun
cheddeamnim’ ani ‘Vetam re poti’ he kant chodd gazle. 

Tiatr nhoi fokot kormonnunk (entertainment) punn ek
boro sondhex dinvchem sadhon ani iontr (instrument) je
loka meren pavoun borea ani vaitta modim xikovnni
divnk ieta mhonn Pamashree M. Boyer gorvan sangta. Hem
sot khorem mhunn kaim tache gazlele tiatr spoxtponnim
sangtat ani te zaun asat "EKUCH ROSTO", "CHINTNAM
ZALIM SOPNAM", "SOVNSAR SUDHORLO", "BHURGIM ANI
BHANGAR" "ADIM TEM ATAM HEM", "GHOR DUKHI GAUM SUKHI",
"MOG, KAZAR, DIVORCE".

Goeant aslelea mansik-avhan (mentally challenge)
bhurgeanchem ‘Daddy’s Home’ haka mozot korunk,
Kuwaitche Club 9 hanchea hasrea khall Junache 2rer
2006,  sanjechea justuch 3.30 vaztam Hawally
Auditorium SONVSAR SUDHORLO tiatracho proig zatlo.

Hea tiatrant bhag getat Goenche toxech Mumbointle
famad tiatrist. Fatima, Sabina, Maria, Peter-Roshan,
Joe Rose, Anthony San, Mathew Araujo, C D’Silva,
Marcelino de Betim, Comedian Agostinho, Aniceto ani
Anil Kumar.

Songit: Norman, Mariano, Minguel.


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[Goanet] NRI Goans Petitions

[wilson coelho]

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NRI GOANS PETITIONS:

At the NRI Goa Facilitation Center meeting held on 27th March, 2006 at the 
Indian English Academy School, (Don Bosco), Salmiya - Kuwait, the following 
issues were raised by the Goan Diaspora who attended the meeting, which were 
noted by the NRI delegation, for due consideration and necessary action: 
 
WILSON COELHO was the first one to speak and placed the following issues which 
were pending with the NRI cell since long.
 
1- EMMIGRATION CLEARANCE REQUIREMENTS for those below Std XII. The Govt of 
India has over the last few years relaxed the Immigration Clearance Rules and 
Regulations to grant relief to all those Indians whose educational 
qualifications are Std XII and above after persistent demands from this end. 
Hence presently those who have passed STD XII and above, can easily obtain 
Emmigration Clearance Not Required (ECNR), but those whose educational 
qualifications are below STD XII need to obtain Emigration Clearance before 
leaving India. Some Indians do manage to come to Kuwait (and other Gulf 
countries) without obtaining the ECNR officially, and they take up employment 
here. However, despite having a valid Residence for Kuwait, duly stamped on 
their passports, and a suitable job to sustain them in the country of their 
residence, the Embassy of India do not grant ECNR to any of such NRI Indians 
while they are in Kuwait should they be required to travel to India for a 
short visit or on an emergency during the period of 3 years, following the 
date of their landing in Kuwait. These Rules should be immediately amended so 
that the Embassy of India could grant ECNR to any Indian Worker who holds a 
valid Kuwait Residence and a suitable job to avoid undue hardships and 
nightmares. 
 
2- GOA UNIVERSITY DEGREES in Civil Engineering are not being recognized by the 
Society of Engineers in Kuwait due to Goa University not being registered with 
the Society as required by the Society of Engineers Kuwait which is an 
autonomous Body empowered to certify all Engineering Degrees. This matter was 
addressed to the Govt of Goa but till date nothing positive has happened. 
Students holding Goa University in Engineering are big losers. 
 
3- INDIAN SYSTEM OF EDUCATION 10+2+3 - Bachelors Degrees in Arts, Science, 
Commerce etc. are not accepted globally on the grounds that the same are not 
compatible with the International standards of education. The requirement is 
that an University Degree (Graduation) must be of 4 years duration as against 
the one being followed by India presently of three years. Students who are 
holding such University Degrees conferred by Indian Universities are being 
denied legitimate benefits due to the anomaly. 

Eng. John Mendes explained his problem being denied registration as 
Professional Engineer with Kuwait Society of Engineers as the Goa Engineering 
College-Farmagudi does not figure in the list of approved Universities as it 
needs National Board of Accreditation, a subsidiary accreditation body which 
has International recognition and Ms Cynthia Menezes, a Lab Technician with 
Kuwait University, presented her personal case and explained how she is denied 
her legitimate benefits in her present job in Kuwait, due to her three years 
College Degree Programme. 
 
4- GOAN NRI CITY - Several representations to the Goa Govt. to allocate 
suitable land, at a reasonable price, to establish an NRI City, for the 
purpose of NRI rehabilitation after retirement to be built by NRI funding, 
with all infrastructure facilities covering Housing, School, Play Ground, 
Super market, Library, Community Hall, Clinic, etc. So far nothing concrete 
has happened despite sincere efforts.
 
5- AIRPORT TAX - International passengers do pay Airport Tax on departure from 
all International Airports from India to foreign countries, but unfortunately 
the facilities provided at the International airports is pathetic and lack 
adequate facilities. The amounts collected by way of Airport Tax should be 
utilized for the purpose of providing maximum facilities to the benefit of the 
tax payers / passengers. 
 
6- INDIAN ARTS CIRCLE PREMISES - The Indian Community in Kuwait had a suitable 
premises to conduct their cultural activities/interactions and other meetings. 
Since the premises no longer exists due to demolition by the owners of the 
building for other development purposes, a suitable alternate sight should be 
arranged through the good offices of the Indian Ambassador in Kuwait. The 
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Govt of India should take up the matter through 
diplom

[Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document

[ralph rau]

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Just caught up with Mario Goveia's e-mail. Mr. Goveia wonders why the 
Portuguese passport is a superior travel document to the Indian passport.
   
  Here are the facts. 
   
  Portuguese passport holders DO NOT require a visa to travel to the major 
economic powers including United States, Canada, all of Europe, Australia & 
New Zealand, Japan, United Kingdom.
   
  This convenience is also enjoyed when travelling to Dubai (U.A.E.) , Oman 
and other Persian Gulf states.
   
  Why even Senegal & Morocco welcome Portuguese citizens without a visa.
   
  All the above countries require Indians to apply for a visa in advance.
   
  As a business traveller I can see the difference in treatment meted out to 
my European colleagues and the discrimination faced by me when I present an 
Indian passport.
   
  Last month I received a Spain visa after waiting for over 30 days and filing 
a written protest. I faced this difficulty despite holding visas for the US, 
UK & Australia and having many other expired visas in my passport.
   
  I have been waiting 15 days now for permission to apply for a Moroccan visa.
   
  I hope and pray that the India passport will eventually command the same 
respect as a European passport.
   
  Until then I hope I can lay my hands on a Portuguese one !



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[Goanet] Re: PRE AND POST 1961 - OH TO BE IN GOA!

[Oscar & Hazel Lobo]

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PRE AND POST 1961 - OH TO BE IN GOA!
(Item #4 Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 366)

Dear Goanet Administration.

Many of us Goans are self opinioned people and I am certainly not an 
exception to the rule.
Therefore, I would like to place my card from the deck.  I promise I will 
endeavour not to be negative.

I was raised in Goa from  the age of 1 month until I reached the age of 18 
years.

It is a fact that Nehru should have asked the people of Goa if they wanted 
to be independent or not (like Falkland Island etc).  I would not be surprised 
if the man had that thought crossed his mind.  I think he was under heavy 
pressure from the Hindu community in Goa and Mumbai as well as all the Goans 
who left Goa for Mumbai for jobs and whatever reasons they may have had at 
that time.

The pressure got to Nehru when the Goans of Goa living in Mumbai joined 
others to free Goans from the Portuguese.

I do not know how they come to the conclusion that we were in bondage in 
Goa.  To my full knowledge the Portuguese were a decent nation and the only 
nation unlike the British and France who married legally and as a result 
offered us all Goans an opportunity to apply for a Portuguese identity if we 
ever wanted to. The other nations used India and we know that as a fact.  
Neither of the nations promised an identity to people in India or Pondicherry 
for that matter.  So, the Portuguese although they were first to come and last 
to go, they did something for the people of Goa a promise to return to their 
country.

I do not think Nehru thought Goans were cooks and butlers.  It is some other 
Indians who refer a Goan in their language as ABC - which stands for Ayah, 
Butler and Cooks. If they have to talk about a Goan in their language,
they will just say, andereee ABC   It would be a gross ignorance to 
compare Nehru to a person from Kerala or Madras or some other part of India 
who used these abbreviations when they were referring to a Goan.

Poor Nehru succumbed to pressure and like Pontius Pilate after several 
presentations to him when he visited Mumbai, he gave in to people and washed 
his hands and directed his army to invade Goa, a term which is still not 
accepted by many. For me and for many of my friends and relatives it will 
always be 'invasion'.  Being in lent season this may be a good thing to ponder 
on the act of 'Pontious Pilate'

Hold your guns Goan fellowmen, Catholics or Hindus until Easter if anyone is 
thinking of replying this post.

Knee jerk reaction is on test here.

On 19 December 1961, when Goa was invaded all went in the fields when the 
bridges were blown up with little or no provision in hand.  We spoent the 
entire day in the field with nature's call the entire 8 hours circa.  

Somewhere at 3.00 pm a helicopter started distributing leaflets (instead of 
providing some bread/chappatti and water) informing us that Goa is now a part 
of India and we should not be scared of anything. The lady announcer was a 
person by the name of Laura - a Goan from Mumbai.  That day was the first day 
we saw what a Sardaji' looked like in a a military jeep that passed by.  Some 
people shouted saying 'Moekar'.

We were mortified to see people with big beards and turbans especially when 
we did not travel to Mumbai before.

I am sure one can imagine the panic particularly the young women who were 
hiding behind their parents.

For many Hindus and some Catholic Goans it was a day of Euphoria. I suppose 
those who thought they were oppressed (I am not sure if there was any 
oppression) enjoyed the fist year under the disguise of 'Liberation'. The next 
year, I saw my Hindu friends getting irritated with the new climate 
in Goa.  Many of my personal Goan Hindu friends who were goldsmiths started 
getting irritated that their business was turned from Gold to Silver and 
copper hanging out of the shop windows!

The point here is as long as we have a three tier system amongst ourselves 
i.e. Goans from Goa, Goans from India and Goans from overseas looking from 
different perspectives we will continue to have unnecessary disharmony amongst 
us.  We need to look with different lenses and have a new paradigm shift in
our thinking.  

It is a matter of remorse to see some of our learned Goan's washing dirty 
linen in public.  Are we not making those very persons who call us ABC very 
happy at our disunity?  I am sure they too subscribe to goanet digest.

In future let us use this formula (Vokot char char vorani fokot) - before 
hitting the key to respond to a post let us ask ourselves one question and one 
question 

[Goanet] Goa news for April 8, 2006

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*** India State Of Goa To Proceed With Plan To Require HIV
Tests For Marriage (Medical News Today)

The government of the Indian state of Goa plans to proceed with
its plan to require couples registering for marriage to undergo
HIV tests, the Hindu reports (Hindu, 4/1). The government of
Goa last month announced that it plans to amend the Goa Public
Health Act to require HIV testing for couples wishing to
marry... click link for more info.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=40997&nfid=rssfeeds


*** Wipro Peripherals to put up shop in Goa (Navhind Times)

Margao, April 6: Wipro Peripherals Ltd (WeP), one of the
largest employee owned companies in India plans to set up a BPO
in Goa. However, this BPO does not read out as Business Process
Outsourcing, but instead as Business Printing Outsourcing.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=040710


*** Enough drinking water to meet Goas needs: Dhavalikar
(Navhind Times)

Panaji, April 5: The PWD Minister, Mr Ramkrishna Dhavalikar
today refuted the allegations of the leader of the opposition,
Mr Manohar Parrikar and added that there is sufficient drinking
water in the state to meet Goas needs till June end.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=040640


*** SC full bench to examine Parrikars plea (Navhind Times)

New Delhi, April 7: The Supreme Court today referred to a
constitution bench a petition filed by former Goa chief
minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar challenging the dismissal of his
government last year.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=040828


*** Suicide cases on the rise among the young (Navhind Times)

Panaji,April 7: Suicidal tendency is on the increase,
particularly among teenagers and youth, and this has been a
matter of serious concern for the Goa police.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=04082


*** GKA selects 5 field workers for research (Navhind Times)

Panaji, April 7: The Goa Konkani Akademi has selected five
field workers on the basis of their experience and their
expertise in the field of folklore and academic background.A
fellowship of Rs 15,000 each will be given to them to collect
˜Dhalo a form of folk-song.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=04081


*** Devotees throng 500th birth (Navhind Times)

Panaji, April 7: The 500th birth anniversary celebrations of St
Francis Xavier were largely attended by priests, religious and
the laity from different walks of life at Basilica of Bom
Jesus, Old Goa today.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=04086


*** Ultra nabbed (Navhind Times)

NT Staff ReporterPanaji, April 7: The Director General of
Police, Mr Neeraj Kumar this evening disclosed that Shammim
Ahmed, who was nabbed in Gulbarga by the Karnataka police for
suspected involvement in terrorist activities, has been brought
to Goa.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=04085


*** Vice-Admiral Sangram Singh Byce to visit Goa naval base
(Outlook India)

Western Naval Command chief, Vice-Admiral Sangram Singh Byce,
will be visiting Sea Bird Naval Base at Karwar in Karnataka
tomorrow, officials said here today.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=376476


*** Greek Orthodox Archdiocese E-Bulletin April 7, 2006
(Worldwide Faith News)

This is the weekly edition of the GOA E-Bulletin. For more
information just click on the links below to go to the topics
of interest to you.If the link does not work from your email,
copy the link and paste it into the address bar of your web
browser.AKATHIST HYMN TONIGHT: On the fifth Friday of Lent,
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Re: [Goanet] Road accidents... an interesting discussion

[Gabe Menezes]

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 Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of 
   Mapusa of the 1950s
  
  http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=426  
--On 07/04/06, Elisabeth Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear FN,When I first came to the US, I witnessed somethingthat to me was simply amazing at the time. At one ofthe four way junctions, the traffic (signal)lights hadstopped working. In the US, at rush hour if something
like this happens, the traffic queues, snake onforever. I expected absolute chaos. To my amazementthere was none. It was so perfectly streamlined.Everyone knew what to do. Give way, one car onejunction way at a time. No one tried to break this
tacit agreement.RESPONSE: I am not sure whether the junction rule that applies in Canada is the same in the U.S.A. Where there are no lights, one comes to a full stop and then it is give way in order of priority. So first come first to exit.
In the U.K. the system here is to give way to traffic coming from the right ( we drive on the left of the road) At round abouts too, we give way to traffic on the right - traffic already on the round about, therefore has priority. 
In Goa ( India ) it seems that traffic already on the round about has to give way to traffic coming straight forward! What a chaotic situation! -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM.
Gabe Menezes.London, England
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[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Abrilachi 8vi, 2006!

[domnic fernandes]

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Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of 
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Khonti kaddop kaim ek bodlinam punn Devacher patiennem sokott bodlita.  
Jednam amche uske ami Devachea hathan ghaltat, To amchea kallzanim sovostkai 
ghalta.


(Worrying doesn't change anything but trusting God changes everything.  When 
we put our cares in God's hands, He puts peace in our hearts.


Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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