Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment

2004-11-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
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--- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in response
to Tariq:
 
 Why don't you crawl into the hole Saddam vacated?
 

Actually, Tariq is a fundamentalist Christian and a
republican. He does not possess weapons mass of mass
destruction. He only has one assault weapon that he
uses for hunting.

Cheers,

Santosh



Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment

2004-11-02 Thread Nagesh Bhatcar
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--- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about the George Bush who liberated 50 million Afghanis and Iraqis 
from
 tyrants, and gave Afghanistan the first democratically held (under UN
 supervision)  election in their history?  Reason enough?


That sounds like a reason for Bush to be elected as the President of Iraq 
and
Afghanistan, not the USA.

-Tariq
People talk about 'democratic' elections in Afghanistan. I don't think Hamid 
Karzai
would have survived to see the elections, if he was not protected by 
American
troops and bodyguards! This fact alone does not reflect well for a 
Democratic
Afghanistan. The elections and a free Afghanistan is only for the 
Republican
voters of the US!

In Iraq, over 1100 American troops have died and over 100,00 Iraqis, since
it was 'liberated'! No WMDs were found and the sole purpose of the war,
was to get rid of those! Then the focus shifted to getting rid of a tyrant,
then to introduction of 'democracy'! How can one call it democracy, when
the US, with a so called ragtag 'alliance' of the UK and some poor East
Europian countries, impose its people and constitution on the hapless 
Iraqis?

I think that the Bush Administration policies have made the world more
unsafe a place.
Nagesh



Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment

2004-11-01 Thread Tariq Siddiqui
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--- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 How about the George Bush who liberated 50 million Afghanis and Iraqis from 
 tyrants, and gave Afghanistan the first democratically held (under UN 
 supervision)  election in their history?  Reason enough?
 

That sounds like a reason for Bush to be elected as the President of Iraq and
Afghanistan, not the USA.

-Tariq




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Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment

2004-11-01 Thread Mario Goveia
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I'm afraid it's no comprende for George.

--- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 By George, you are missing the point!
 
 You asked I am not sure which George Bush his
 supporters are rooting for
 
 and my response was  ...the George Bush who
 liberated 50 million Afghanis 
 and Iraqis from tyrants, and gave Afghanistan the
 first democratically held 
 (under UN supervision) election in their history!
 
 My answer obviously did not satisfy you because you
 went off on a tangent. 
 I can understand that as a liberal you cannot accept
 the notion that there 
 are some of us who not believe in entitlement
 programs (welfare).  Over $6 
 trillion has been spent since the  initiation of the
 Great Society program 
 to eradicate poverty began under Lyndon Johnson and
 there is little to show 
 for it.  That entitlement hand reaches out for yet
 more--it is endless 
 supplication.  Whatever happened to good
 oldfashioned work ethic such as 
 Goans used to live by in the old days?
 
 Besides, if we do not destroy terrorism across the
 ocean, the economic 
 consequences we faced on 9/11 would look like chump
 change if there should 
 be another significant attack on the U.S.   
 Comprende, George?
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 3:37 PM
 Subject: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World-
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  Chris Vaz wrote...
  How about the George Bush who liberated 50
 million Afghanis and Iraqis 
  from tyrants
 
 
  This is a post-hoc justification for the illegal
 war, a war which has cost 
  the United States about
  $142 billion and counting.  There were no WMD's,
 the original reason given 
  for the war. Now George
  Bush is on reason #11 (freedom and democracy) as
 he shifts his reasons and 
  justifications for the
  war often (it is difficult to keep up with his
 shifting positions on most 
  major issues).
 
  According to the National Priorities Project,
 instead of the $142 billion 
  spent on the war, we
  could have:
  1. Paid for 18,936,876 children to attend a year
 of Head Start
  2. Have hired 2,477,747 additional public school
 teachers for one year.
  3. Provided 6,931,040 students four-year
 scholarships at public 
  universities.
  4. Ensured that every child in the world was given
 basic immunizations for 
  47 years.
  5. Fully funded world-wide AIDS programs for 14
 years.
  6. Fully funded global anti-hunger efforts for 5
 years.
  7. Insured 85,612,842 children for one year.
 
  Regards,
  George
 
 
  
 
 




Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment

2004-11-01 Thread Chris Vaz
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By George, you are missing the point!
You asked I am not sure which George Bush his supporters are rooting for
and my response was  ...the George Bush who liberated 50 million Afghanis 
and Iraqis from tyrants, and gave Afghanistan the first democratically held 
(under UN supervision) election in their history!

My answer obviously did not satisfy you because you went off on a tangent. 
I can understand that as a liberal you cannot accept the notion that there 
are some of us who not believe in entitlement programs (welfare).  Over $6 
trillion has been spent since the  initiation of the Great Society program 
to eradicate poverty began under Lyndon Johnson and there is little to show 
for it.  That entitlement hand reaches out for yet more--it is endless 
supplication.  Whatever happened to good oldfashioned work ethic such as 
Goans used to live by in the old days?

Besides, if we do not destroy terrorism across the ocean, the economic 
consequences we faced on 9/11 would look like chump change if there should 
be another significant attack on the U.S.Comprende, George?


- Original Message - 
From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 3:37 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment


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Chris Vaz wrote...
How about the George Bush who liberated 50 million Afghanis and Iraqis 
from tyrants

This is a post-hoc justification for the illegal war, a war which has cost 
the United States about
$142 billion and counting.  There were no WMD's, the original reason given 
for the war. Now George
Bush is on reason #11 (freedom and democracy) as he shifts his reasons and 
justifications for the
war often (it is difficult to keep up with his shifting positions on most 
major issues).

According to the National Priorities Project, instead of the $142 billion 
spent on the war, we
could have:
1. Paid for 18,936,876 children to attend a year of Head Start
2. Have hired 2,477,747 additional public school teachers for one year.
3. Provided 6,931,040 students four-year scholarships at public 
universities.
4. Ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations for 
47 years.
5. Fully funded world-wide AIDS programs for 14 years.
6. Fully funded global anti-hunger efforts for 5 years.
7. Insured 85,612,842 children for one year.

Regards,
George




Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment

2004-11-01 Thread halur rasho
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The iraqis seem a little peeved at being liberated!
Like some goans are peeved at being liberated!

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Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment

2004-11-01 Thread Chris Vaz
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How about the George Bush who liberated 50 million Afghanis and Iraqis from 
tyrants, and gave Afghanistan the first democratically held (under UN 
supervision)  election in their history?  Reason enough?



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry, save the World- Bosco's comment


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--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's more about don't vote for Dubya - the greater of  the two evils.

The above phrase is overused in modern political discourse.  Sometimes 
(not always) one votes
choosing between two poor or bad choices, but not evil. Fortunately, in 
tomorrow's USA election,
John Kerry, an outstanding candidate is on the ballot.  I see the 
predicament with Bush, he is the
flip flopper-in-chief and one cannot tell where he stands as the political 
winds shift.  He was
against the 9-11 commission, then for it.  Opposed the Homeland Security 
department, then was for
it.  Against nation-building, then for it.  For small government but 
presided over the largest
expansion of government and spending since Lyndon Johnson, etc. etc. 
Kerry was consistent and
strong in all three debates, yet three different Bush's showed up in the 
debates.  I am not sure
which George Bush his supporters are rooting for.

Regards,
George