Re: [Goanet] Goans can survive without too much of overseas sermons.

2006-12-12 Thread Mario Goveia

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--- Anthony M Barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want to see what Goans are doing to protect
 Goa, come to Goa. I will personally take you around
 and show you why Goa is still the best and what
 various people at various level are doing to keep it
 so.  
 
Mario adds:

Tony,
Goa is certainly one of the best, and the recognition
it is getting from people across India and from around
the world is ample testimony to that.  May it improve
and prosper in the future and prove the naysayers and
critics wrong.

Having lived in the US for 35 years I always look
forward to my next trip to Goa and thoroughly enjoy
every visit.  After having lost all our ancestral
property through our own carelessness in the past, we
were impressed enough by Goa and Goans to re-invest in
property there and plan to spend more and more time
there.



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Re: [Goanet] The Goan crab mentality!

2006-12-12 Thread Oscar Lobo

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Hi Newton!

It was nice of you to take the time to write about the Goan anomaly in 
Melbourne and particularly to make an attempt for all three associations to 
reconcile in the spirit of Christmas albeit previous attempts have proven 
futile.

As you know, it was always our (an independent group of Goans and not an 
association) aspiration to get the World Goa Day (WGD) celebration under one 
umbrella!  For your information, the founder of WGD, Mr. Rene Barretto 
approached many people in Melbourne to kick start the celebration in the 
year 2000 and apparently he followed this up for the next two years. As no 
one responded to Rene's e-mails, he decided to contact me in Melbourne (as I 
had just come from New Zealand) and Rene requested me to shoulder the 
responsibility of staging WGD with a  few families and friends.  With the 
help of Jude and Sarojini and yourself and few others we stagged the first 
World Goa Day event in August 2003.

Being on the Executive Committee (EC) of G.O.A. in the year 2003, (when you 
were the Treasurer), I tabled Rene Barretto's invitation to the then 
President who as you rightly said refused to accept this event on grounds 
that they have an Annual General Meeting in August and they could not take 
an additional event during this time; an excuse we were unable to 
comprehend.  Moreover, when we told the EC that the aim of WGD was to 
promote cultural heritage and Konkani, I was told by the then President 
why promote Konkani in Melbourne?

However, at the request of Rene and for the love of Goa and our language I 
took it upon myself to stage the first event in August 2003 (without forming 
yet another association) from our own pocket (as we do not have big balances 
built as membership for years) and with the assistance of some people who 
were equally passionate about Goa, culture and the language. In that year 
few Goans approached me (and you are aware of this) to form another 
association.  I ignored this baseless request.

As I said many times before, World Goa Day can and should be a part and 
parcel of one organisation on the proviso that we have just one 
organisation..  All that is required is to (a) get back the Australian Goan 
Association members who bifurcated from G.O.A.
on some  genuine grounds, (b) change the myopic clauses in the constitution 
that has been in existence for some 28 years and (c) embark on a new 
constitution that will encourage our young people to carry out our cultural 
heritage, food, music, arts, literature etc.
What we need is new structure on new grounds and not new structure on old 
grounds.

If Crab mentality is a part of our Goan culture, it is that time of the 
year to take stock of what associations have achieved so far The only way 
we can move forward is to change from being Goan Crabs to Goan Frogs, so 
that we can leap forward and progress.

Since the kick off, of WGD in 2003 and right up to now, we were able to 
bring many Goans together from woodworks and others  sitting on ice and on 
fences for a very long time. All these people wanted to come to an event 
which was not only free from membership fee but above all free from politics 
that even interfered with smooth running of friendships between families.

Do Goans really need a Club with membership fees and status in these days 
and age?

Oscar


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[Goanet] Netiquette once again

2006-12-12 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil

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Despite my previous appeal, people who are sending messages related to
topics on Goanet directly to people have still not desisted. I realise
that many of them may innocently be clicking on 'Reply All' and then
messages go to all people on the address list. Be cautious about this.
Once again, as a general guideline, I would suggest the following:

1. Post messages to Goanet (and, if you so desire) to the person whose
post you are directly responding to.

2. If the moderators reject your message, take it up with them -- don't
dump those mails anyway on all and sundry. This is spamming, and I would
hate to have to add all these people to my spam list so that all
messages are dumped before I even see them.
-- 
Question everything -- Karl Marx


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Re: [Goanet] Goa is the Kashmir of Maharashtra

2006-12-12 Thread Mario Goveia

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--- Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is really wonderful to read Mario defend Ramesh
 Deo, the producer of the film and VCD Goa Freedom 
 Struggleand  who has acted in Konkani films 
 40 years ago.as an ignoramus! I wonder whom that
 cap will fit better.
 
Mario responds:

Anyone who used the term Goanese was an ignoramus by
definition since there has never been such a word.

Miguel writes:

 What Indian-ness of Goans is in question: caste
 system, pan-chewing habits, British raj history, 
 what??
 
Mario responds:

It was the Indian-ness of Goans that was in question. 
I'm not aware that Goans are associated with
pan-chewing or British raj history, and caste
consciousness is not held against anyone in India as
it is commonplace across the country.

Central India is dominated by Hindu Mahasabha and RSS
types and almost no one there identifies with British
raj history.  Many Goans identify with Portuguese raj
and culture and it is those Goans that had their
Indian-ness questioned.

Miguel asks:

 And from where in the heartland is this
 intelligent Goanetter??
 
Mario responds:

This highly intelligent and never humble Goanetter,
who knows that only the culturally ignorant called
Goans Goanese, is from Jabalpur in MP.  You cannot
get more heartland than that as we even had a
monument on the outskirts of town that marked the
center of British India.





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[Goanet] St. Xavier's Alumni/ae International Reunion

2006-12-12 Thread St. Xaviers's College of Arts, Science Commerce - Mapusa - Goa

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St. Xavier's Alumni/ae International Reunion

St. Xavier's College is hosting for the first time an International Reunion 
of its alumni/ae and former teachers on December 17, 2006, on Dr. Mariano 
Saldanha Lawns of the College, in association with the Association of 
Alumni/ae of St. Britto High School, St. Mary's High School and St. Xavier's 
Higher Secondary School and College (BMX).

Around 150 alumni/ae from USA, Canada, Portugal, Spain, Australia, UK, Gulf 
and some other countries, and an equal number from the other parts of India 
are expected to participate in this programme.

Most of the students of St. Britto High School, meant for  boys, and St. 
Mary's High School, meant for girls, join St. Xavier's. BMX is a Canadian 
brainchild and the first Reunion was held in Toronto, Canada, in 2004. The 
second BMX Reunion will be held  in Goa from December 16 to 21, 2006.

One of the items of the BMX programme is the participation in the Goa Xavier 
College Alumni/ae and former teachers Reunion. Such Reunions have been 
hosted by the College in the month of December since 2002, with 
participation mostly of the local alumni/ae and a sprinkling of foreign 
alumni/ae. But this year, it is truly an international reunion.

The Chief Architects of St. Xavier's have been Fr. Edward D'Cruz s.j 
(1963-65),  Fr. Nicolau Pereira (1965-1991) and Fr. Antimo Gomes (1991 - 
2002). The former two have passed away. Fr. D'Cruz was the Principal of St. 
Xavier's College, Mumbai and his services  were loaned to the Archdiocese by 
the Jesuits when St. Xavier's was established in 1963, soon after liberation 
of Goa. To him goes the credit for laying the foundation of the College, 
which initially functioned in Bastora, in the Fransalian Complex for 5 
years.

Fr. Pereira joined soon after completing his Ph.D. in Chemistry in U.S.A. 
The present huge complex consisting of Teaching Block, Administrative Block 
and Hostel at Altinho, Mapusa, was undertaken by Fr. Pereira alongwith the 
expansion of academic courses and other programmes at undergraduate, 
postgraduate and Ph.D. level.  His tenure was the longest. He was known in 
the student community as POP.

Fr. Gomes served the Archdiocese for many years as Secretary of Diocesan 
Society of Education before starting his teaching career at Xavier's from 
1984 to 1991, when he was appointed Principal. He introduced P.G.Degree 
programme in Psychology and many other courses. During his tenure the 
gardens became lush green with new plants which he loved very much.

The present International Reunion has an added significance because its 
memorial is going to be a vast auditorium named as Fr. Nicolau Pereira 
Auditorium which will be a gift of its alumni/ae and friends of Xavier's to 
the student community. This auditorium will accommodate 1500 persons. The 
alumni/ae  friends of Xavier's are going to gift chairs which will carry 
the nameplate of the donor, each chair costing Rs.15,000-00 to cover the 
cost of the building.

The Alumni/ae are going to help the College in the context of 
Internationalization of Higher Education for twining partnerships with 
foreign Universities, Faculty exchange programme, Student exchange 
programme, Student internship, Faculty enrichment partnership , Joint 
research projects, Joint publications etc. The College needs the assistance 
of its alumni/ae for international networking.

This will help the College for enrichment of the teaching-learning process, 
greater flexibility of educational experience, improved quality of research, 
sharing of the best practices and economic potential.

Neither a nation nor an institution can simply afford to rest on its 
laurels. It needs to constantly keep pace with the times, for 'time and tide 
wait  for no man'. Keeping this in mind the college plans to add a host of 
facilities to its infrastructure. Chief among these are a new 
state-of-the-art library building, an auditorium with a seating capacity to 
two thousand and an indoor stadium. These will enable our students to be 
better equipped, both in faculties of the mind  and of the body, so as to 
prepare themselves for the future.

Ever mindful of its rich past, St. Xavier's College rededicates itself to 
the tenets of its founders so as to produce academic excellence and 
all-round development of its students.


INVITATION

Goa Xavier College Alumni/ae
International Reunion
(December 17, 2006)

St. Xavier's College, 

[Goanet] Goans are very generous and caring

2006-12-12 Thread Cyril D'souza

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goans should organize workshops for helping downtrodden goans to generate 
income, give them loans small ones which will add to dignity of the 
Individual. - for the rest is all commentary. these workshops should be held 
at village level through out Goa, each village should have melas, festivals 
where these trained goans can generate their own monies and have a dignified 
life. 


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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goa's online media ... beyond islands of excellence?

2006-12-12 Thread P D

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Hi Fred:

That was an excellent treatment on the role of mainstream media vis-a-vis 
online media. I've seen accusations hurled at you on the handling of the 
former while the adage physician heal thyself would be apt.

 Guess you juxtaposed http://www.catholic-goan-network.net (Catholic Goan 
Network) with 'Goan Girls to bring out the dichotomy of good versus evil --  
a constant battle.

I'm not sure which preceded the other -- the Bombay Kudds or the Karachi 
Kudds -- but both served an immediate and pressing need for pioneering 
Goans, which included a religious presence.

Fred, you've critically analyzed the subject and made realistic predictions. 
It is now for selfless individuals to capitalize on your secret.

Wishing all readers a Blessed Christmas and a Joyous New Year 2007.

God Bless:

Pat de Sousa
Silver Spring, Maryland
http://www.catholic-goan-network.net


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[Goanet] Uniquely Goan fly

2006-12-12 Thread Cecil Pinto

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Cornel DaCosta wrote:
Is there something rather distinctive in its Goan use like Merry
Christmas to you and fly as perhaps a distinctive Goan abbreviation for
family?

---

Dear Cornel,

I don't think that 'fly' as an abbreviation for 'family' is 
distinctively or uniquely Goan, as it is used all over India. I am 
not aware of usage in the West though. As Selma keeps pointing out I 
have not been around as much as her and should therefore not be 
commenting on such matters. But I am pretty sure 'fly' is used in 
other countries too.

Cheers!

Cecil

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[Goanet] A diplomat with a human face

2006-12-12 Thread Joaquim Loiola Pereira
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[Goanet] God and man part 2

2006-12-12 Thread Albert Desouza

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Albert writes
God loved man so much that He gave us Jesus. This Jesus was a simple man had 
no place to be born and no place to die even .He was born as the least 
beggar in animal manger and died as a thief on the cross and was burried in 
a grave that was not his. Jesus has taught us many things. He cared for 
homes and families. He began his first miracle at a wedding to inform people 
of the earth that God
Albert

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[Goanet] Choose and back your favourite!

2006-12-12 Thread Philip Thomas

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HERALD had this headline: Goa govt seeks central aid for civilian
airport4) Stage II Mopa. Mopa plus 100% civil Dabolim. Emergence of a
multi-airport system in Goa (like in Mumbai and Delhi in a few years). The
crux of the matter lies in assigning the right role to Mopa vis a vis
Dabolim and building it accordingly. This means one has to be international
and the other domestic, at least to start with. Maybe after 10-20 years
there can be a switch.[Self]

Yesterday's Times of India had this report headlined: Unused airstrips to
help fight jam. The sub-headline read Govt plans to revive 21 airports to
ease air traffic rush and develop regional routes. In the text, the civil
aviation minister is quoted as saying: Many of these strips are lying
unused and face encroachment. If we dont revive them we may lose them.
adding however that airstrips slated to be revived havent found any takers
though low cos carriers have shown interest in operating to new
destinations. In this connection the report notes that domestic air services
are now available to 74 airports as againts only 50 in 2000. This leaves 20
potentially usable AAI airports out of a total of 33 unused ones it manages.
Question: Why cant Mopa be included in this category and built into a small
domestic airport?  It can have a regional route structure like Pune
(Lohegaon), Hyderabad (Begumpet), Bangalore (HAL) etc. Trouble is these are
all defence controlled and slated to be closed to civil traffic sooner or
later!


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Re: [Goanet] Intolerance and tolerance .... Holland considers Saree ban

2006-12-12 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil

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On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 20:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Subject: [Goanet] Intolerance and tolerance  Holland considers
 Saree ban
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org

 In my dealing with Indian women, the women's saree ban is not an
 affront to Indian women.  It is an affront to some Indian men, whom I
 have encountered, who insist that their wife wear only the saree when
 seen in public in the USA. 

I am not getting into this gender issue, though I think it's rather a
red herring. But the issue is whether any government or society can
dictate what it sees as the 'majority' culture on to others. By this
token, what is wrong with the Bajrang Dal loonies are saying in India?
They attack Valentine Day parties, and girls wearing jeans and skirts
because they claim that is against 'Indian culture'. However ridiculous
this stand, if one is to take a definition of assimilation as aping the
majority culture and not doing anything different, then it would make
such stands justified. Is 'Indian culture' equivalent to 'Hindu culture'
just because Hindus are in the majority in India? And is 'British
culture' equivalent to 'C of E culture', just because Anglicans happen
to be the majority there?

In fact, I would like to have some clear definition of this word
'assimilation' which is being bandied around so much as a desirable
value. What price the values of pluralism and multiculturalism?

 I think the Burka law or Blair's exhortation may / will silently
 empower immigrant women in their new home. 

Yeah, just like Blair's intervention in Iraq has empowered the Iraqis.
Oh well, at least this time he's hassling his own citizens instead of
invading other countries and empowering their citizens...

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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 619

2006-12-12 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil

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On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 23:08 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Law to ban land sale to non-Goans demanded

 --- Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  It is quite funny to see this question on Goanet of
  all places, which is choc-a-bloc with NRIs owning 
  property abroad. Wonder how they would react if the 
  countries they now reside in were to come out with 
  such laws? What's sauce for the goose should be 
  sauce for the gander...
  
 Mario observes:
 
 Vidhyadhar,
 Your gross generalization has no reasonable basis in
 reality.  What does the presence of NRI's on Goanet
 have to do the opinions of some of them?

Fair enough. Statement withdrawn. Not all Goan NRIs want such laws in
Goa, point accepted.

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Re: [Goanet] The mess that is Goa/response to Mario

2006-12-12 Thread Carvalho

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--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Selma,
 With such a determined list of preconceived
 expectations, I'm sure that all your negative
 expectations will be completely fulfilled.  I
 believe
 its called a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
--

Dear Mario,

Unlike you I don't have preconceived expectations or
notions of whatever I write about Goa. I am not a
visitor to Goa. I am only a visitor to the US. Goa is
my home which I know very well, the fact that I am
currently spending time away from it does not make me
a tourist with a two-week window view of the place.

selma


 

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[Goanet] Shoulder chips and flamboyant generalisations

2006-12-12 Thread Cecil Pinto

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Selma wrote to/regarding Cecil:
Whenever you enter a debate we can be assured of just
two things. That it will involve personal insults and
that it will deteriorate to the lowest common
denominator.


Cecil replies:
I regret that I don't have Selma's ability to rise above personal 
insults and her ability to raise a debate to the highest common 
multiple. Maybe it is because I have been educated and lived all my 
life, mostly, in Goa.



Selma:
Secondly, as a Goan I think I'm informed enough about
Goan society to offer personal opinions. You on the
other hand have offered us your opinions on Canada,
having never set foot on its shores. I wonder which
one of us is more flamboyant.


Cecil:
That is true. I should not be offering opinions on Canada, however 
informed they may be. Also Maria Aurora Couto should not be offering 
opinions, however informed, on what happened in 17th century Goa 
without actually having been there. Flamboyance is another matter entirely.


--

Selma:
Lastly, I do believe that Goan society has a pecking
order based loosely on the chauvinism of language (to
borrow Frederick's phrase). At the top is Portuguese
at the bottom languishes Konkani. Phrases like we
only speak English in the house, flaunted proudly are
all too common.


Cecil:
You are entitled to your beliefs, however removed from reality. It is 
a pity that no intelligent and informed person on this forum shares 
your belief. One could equally easily claim there is a pecking order 
based on caste or skin colour or material possessions or political 
power or whatever. Unfortunately life is much more complex and 
pecking orders are a mixture of a lot of things, language being just 
one minuscule component.


--


Selma:
Speaking of Goan elitism, in your own humour column
you write sneeringly about people who enjoy Konkani
tiatre. Well, being able to appreciate English film
noir does not make one any more intellectual than
being able to enjoy a Konkani tiatre makes one
plebeian. Such is the elitism of Goa that permeates
every strand of its society. I rest my case.


Cecil:
1) Even a South Goan will tell you that a humour column is different 
from an intellectual debate.
2) I also make fun of people from Salcete (not Salcette), Agassaim, 
Moira, Mapusa, Aldona... Also people who ride old Fiat cars and 
modified Enfields. I laugh at men who wear wigs and women who get 
their hair straightened. I regularly poke fun at matrimonial 
advertisements, multi level marketing, animal activists and 
overzealous administrators. Non-Goans, New Yorkers, Keralites, 
Germans, Sicilians and Ponjekars. Yuppies, puppies, hippies and 
sarcastic uninformed Goan migrants. Everybody and everything will 
come under my satirical scanner.
3) I have never claimed any superior ability to appreciate English 
film noir. I poke fun at IFFI Delgates - which includes myself. That 
is the crucial point, being able to laugh at oneself.
4) I regularly go for tiatrs (and not tiatre!) as do most members of 
my plebeian family. I am as critical of badly produced tiatrs as I am 
of badly directed English films or badly written postings to GoaNet.

Perhaps Selma someday you will get rid of the big chip you carry on 
your shoulder that makes you think of yourself as the victim of some 
injustice. That will be the Eureka Moment when you will realise that 
it is not the language that made people shun you like the plague (to 
borrow your own phrase) but the way you misuse the language to 
perpetuate myths - and the attitude that accompanies.

Cheers!

Cecil

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Re: [Goanet] The Goan crab mentality!/response to Cornel

2006-12-12 Thread Carvalho

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Dear Cornel,

Doubtless you will be flooded with responses about the
etymology of this phrase. It has something to do with
someone trying to make crab xacuti and not finding the
anise star to make it with :0)

Let me just apprise you beforehand, that this same
analogy is used by any number of Indian communities
with reference to their own members.

Now here's wishing yoall  fly a mary christmas for
Jesus' birday :))

selma
PS: You're in a very festive mood these days. Nice to
see at least some Goanetters not taking Goanet too
seriously. Thank God for your oft-humourous posts.
--

Cornel wrote:
What
 is the link to the 
 humble crab? To date I have not come across it as a
 term in everyday English 
 usage. Is there something rather distinctive in its
 Goan use like Merry 
 Christmas to you and fly as perhaps a distinctive
 Goan abbreviation for 
 family? Or the Goan distinctive verbal use of yoall
 for you all!
 Just curious and with definitely no axe to grind!
 Thanks
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Re: [Goanet] The Goan crab mentality!

2006-12-12 Thread Florina D'Souza

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This is what I know of The crab mentality.  Please don't crucify me if 
anyone has another version.

Here's how I first heard it:

The crabs were having an international convention.  Among them was a basket 
of crabs from India, Korea, the Phillipines, and several others.  Someone 
asked, why are the baskets open.  Won't the crabs crawl out?  The wise reply 
was:  When one crab tries to crawl out, another crab willab him and pull 
him back into the basket

When a Goan wants or does something good, there will be some one who is so 
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Re: [Goanet] Our dresses/response to RKN

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--- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How young are you, Albert?
 
 -- RKN

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Dear RKN,

Let's put it this way, when young men see a plunging
neck-line, the first thought that comes to mind is not
the lady's character :)

selma


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Re: [Goanet] The mess that is Goa/response to Helga

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Mario,
Stacey was driving all over Goa which worked well for me who did not even 
know to drive then!
Helga
 I'm glad that your friend, Stacey, saw none of ...
 the mounting garbage, the reckless traffic, the
 ugly facade of new buildings erected without planning
 and without a hint of an architectural soul in them.

 Neither did I the last time I was in Goa.



 
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[Goanet] Special Video clips: Goa's popular Child actors

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Goa's Top Child Actors Special
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Shrutika Naik, Hezel Gonsalves, Sonia Dias, Victor Fernandes, Aliston 
Fernandes, Franky
Oliveira, Jr. Chico, Royston etc.

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[Goanet] Panjim post IFFI

2006-12-12 Thread Philip Thomas

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The underground cabling as you must be aware is unrelated to the IFFI
development works and is a separate project altogether. It is also being
carried out in Margao. The main transformer in the Market Area of Panjim
used to regulalry trip and cause long blackouts in that area every alternate
day. With the new underground cabling and transformer, our supply has
improved dramatically.[Sunith D. Velho]
The electricity situation in the market area has improved dramatically, due
to the new transformer installed for INOX(the main IFFI venue).[Sunith
D.Velho]

I was intrigued by your ascribing the improvement in the electricity
situation to, initially, the transformer and underground cabling.
Susbequently you have overlooked the underground cabling. I am sure there is
a link between the electricity situation in the market area and both the
transformer as well as the cabling even though at one time you argued that
cabling was irrelevant. Systems thinking would dictate this. Btw, Inox has a
standby generator and relies on the external power supply for its usual
requirements. It is not totally reliant on the latter. Cheers.




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Re: [Goanet] Gulab Jaam (Was: Goa is............)/to Cornel

2006-12-12 Thread Cornel DaCosta

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If Mario relied on being read much more than relying on commonsense he would 
know that elites in society who claim elitism by birth do not espouse 
education because they are led to believe by their mentors that they do not 
need the mundanity of an education. The real elites in Europe hardly had any 
formal education except for what was provided in royal and linked circles 
for elite functions. Indeed, the current generation of royalty in the UK, 
like Charles, are the first to see the insides of a university. The Queen 
herself in the UK has no educational qualification whatsoever! This has 
never stopped her from being supremely elitist in everything she does!

Clearly too, in terms of experience, Mario appears not to have encountered 
totally uneducated and illiterate brahmin people, and the like, who believe 
they have inborn characteristics that make them superior to any formally and 
highly educated and successful person. Such is the paradox of elitism.

Whether we are discussing elitism or snobbery, the crux of the issue in this 
discussion is surely the empty elitism or snobbery of some based on their 
personal beliefs rather than on verifiable  facts that might determine their 
elite status.
Just some quick thoughts.
Cornel
- Original Message - 
From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:34
 Mario observes:
 I have never met an uneducated Goan who was either elitist or snobbish. 
 The most snobbish Goans that I have met have been supposedly high caste 
 Goans, those who identify with the previous colonial masters, and highly 
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Re: [Goanet] Great Men Of Goa

2006-12-12 Thread Helga do Rosario Gomes

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A bit late in the No great women in Goa debate' or is it over?

If there are, I would be very happy if someone could
 bring the names to my attention because one has always to be learning, and
 if there are, and fall within accepted notions of Greatness, I would 
 gladly
 apologize for the inadvertent error of ommission.
 MARCOS GOMES CATAO

Not aware of any Great Goan Women? What a pity!
If you are not aware of any GGW then: 1) It could be because there were
non pre 1950. Which could be further construed to mean
that the Portuguese regime afforded  few opportunities for women 2) That 
even though you
took so much time to ferret out all these male luminaries it did not occur 
to you
to look out for women 3) To quote you  'one has always to be learning' so I
guess you have some homework to do!
I don't think its (1) because I do know that there were many bright women in
the time frame you mention and that there was little gender discrimination 
in
the  Portuguese regime.(2) As for your painstaking 'research' if you had 
taken the trouble to look then you
would have been pleasantly surprised to see that some of the great men on
your list were actually related to women who were equally or perhaps
greater! Case in point being Bruto da Costa (Lisbon) whose wife is a 
Chemical engineer and environmentalist in Lisbon and
his sister in law Adelia Costa said to the first woman psychiatrist of Goa.
And how about the well known educationist Correia Afonso? And to that list I 
would add Maria Aurora Couto, a writer and Professor (3) A good place to 
start your homework would be Goa Sudharop's e book where you would find many 
women even from the 1950s.

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[Goanet] Competition in Cruise Terminals

2006-12-12 Thread Philip Thomas

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Pondicherry may host India's first int'l cruise hub

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2006 02:27:54 AM]

BANGALORE: Indians cruising on international high seas registered a
three-fold increase in 2006. Now, a global cruiseliner like Carnival or
Cunard, for instance, could show up with an international hub in the
country.

At least four top cruise operators - the names unidentified at the moment -
are talking to the privately-owned Rs 1,850-crore Pondicherry Port (PPL) to
develop the country's first dedicated international cruise terminal.

The greenfield deep water port at Puducherry (formerly Pondicherry) spread
across 320 acre, in which a global institutional investor will hold up to
50% stake, will show up with a luxury cruise facility with two terminals on
a dedicated 55-60 acre land. Currently, Star Cruise has a domestic hub in
Mumbai connecting it with Goa and Lakshwadeep but the cruiseliner operates
out of the Mumbai Port Trust Terminal.

PPL's Indian promoters, SPML and On Metals Infrastructure Group, and Asipac,
an urban infrastructure development consultant, expects to seal an agreement
with a leading cruise operator by early 2007, and the terminal is expected
to become operational by 2009. The work on project, which has received all
necessary governmental clearances, is poised to roll out mid next year.

The idea is to make Pondicherry a hub for one of the the largest
cruise-liners and a port of call for others. The business plan envisages
short haul domestic cruises to Andaman, Sunderbans, Lakshwadeep and Goa, and
longer cruises to Maldives, Seychelles, Mauritius, Singapore, Dubai and some
Mediterranean destinations, said Amit Bagaria, CEO, Asipac, when contacted.

The cruise terminal will have transit accommodation for crew and passengers,
a MICE convention centre, business lounges, duty-free retail and a crafts
bazaar for international tourists, he added.

However, the names of the global cruise operators interested in the venture
were not known, even through Asipac added serious talks were on with four
out of the top 10 cruise-liners. According to Asipac estimates, the
Pondicherry terminal could target almost 500,000 cruisers by 2011.

This may sound like a large number, but when you consider that Miami
handled 3.6 million cruise passengers last year, Singapore 1.6 million and
Barcelona 1.4 million, given our size of population and growing economy, the
0.5 million target is not so big, said Karan Rekhi, vice-president (Ports 
Hospitality), Asipac.

About 220,000 Indians would have cruised in 2006, a three-fold jump over the
previous year. Among them over 200,000 flew out of the country to embark on
a cruiseliner from major international hubs like Singapore or Miami.





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[Goanet] The first Indian to win the Miss World title

2006-12-12 Thread Frederick Menezes

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[Excerpt]

The first Indian to win the Miss World title

December 12, 2006

In Dublin, Ireland, lives India's first-ever Miss World.

A native of Mumbai, Reita Faria was crowned Miss World 1966, 40
years ago.

Rediff India Abroad Managing Editor (Features) Arthur J Pais
flew to the 
Irish capital recently to meet the lady who was once the
prettiest woman on 
the planet.

The cabbie didn't have to be told the complete address. Just as
we were 
giving him the name of the street in one of the most coveted
locations in 
Dublin, he asked eagerly, I bet you are going to Miss World's
home?

He wouldn't call her by her married name. Just Miss Reita Faria.
As he 
dropped us at the sprawling house Reita Faria Powell shares with
her 
husband, endocrinologist David Powell, the taxi driver asked a
bit 
sheepishly, Do you mind if I wait for a second? I want to see
how she looks 
in real life.

And there was Reita Faria Powell, looking years younger than her
early 60s, 
with a radiant smile, offering her hand in warm welcome.

The first Indian to be crowned Miss World 40 years ago, the
Mumbai-raised 
Reita was one of the best known Indians worldwide in her times.

Aishwarya Rai would claim the same crown in 1994 but, in the mid
1960s, 
Faria was much more than a celebrity.

We knew three Indians in Ireland at the time, and Reita Faria
was one of 
them, John Cunningham, a lawyer in Killarney, some 150 miles
from Dublin, 
said when he heard my wife and I were visiting Faria -- who
added her 
husband's last name to hers in 1971, the year they married. The
other two 
were Mahatma Gandhi and Sabu, star of the hit movie Elephant
Boy.

Reita has always been very special to us, the lawyer
continued. She 
became one of our own in no time. For many years, she was our
only Miss 
World.

Many of her admirers salute Reita's steadfast mind, having read
how she 
spurned a glamorous life for the pursuit of medicine, giving
that up to 
nurture her two daughters.

Anyone over the age of 40, it seems, knows of Reita Faria
Powell. Many 
remember seeing her on television, during reruns of the Bob Hope
show in 
South Vietnam, staged soon after she won the Miss World crown in
1966.

As recently as a month ago at the Ryder Cup golf tournament, the
Powells got 
a warm welcome at a five-star hotel, thanks to the memories of
Reita Faria.

Last year, when the Powells were skiing in the Italian Alps, a
group of 
English people looked at them intensely. After chatting a bit,
they said to 
Faria's husband, 'We don't want you to be embarrassed, but was
your wife 
very famous?'

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[Goanet] Goa news for December 13, 2006

2006-12-12 Thread Goanet News Service

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*** Goans fight back to save green belt (IBN live)

Goa: Goa's laidback residents are up in arms over rampant
construction in the state's green belt.

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/goans-fight-back-to-save-green-belt/28241-3.html


*** Goa mine caves in, 1 dead, 5 trapped (IBN live)

Panaji: Six labourers are feared killed after they were trapped
in a landslide in the pit of an iron ore mine at Ugem Tollem
area in Sanguem town of South Goa on Saturday.

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/goa-mine-caves-in-1-dead-5-trapped/28073-3.html


*** Goa airport put on alert after terror threat (Hindustan
Times)

Security has been stepped up in and around Goa airport
following intelligence inputs about a possible terror threat.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1863139,000900040002.htm


*** Rescue work on at collapsed mine site (New Kerala)

Panaji, Dec 12: Rescue work continued for the fourth day today
at an iron mine dump that caved in at Collem in south Goa, in
which seven persons were feared killed even as the state
government ordered the mine owner to pay compensation,
officials said.

http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=65340


*** Goa asks Centre to allow larger say on sources of funds
(Navhind Times)

New Delhi, Dec 9: Goa today sought a greater say in deciding
the source of funds to plug the states fiscal deficit, as the
obligation of availing high cost debt from the National Small
Savings Fund has no economic rationale.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=121010


*** Canon power champs come together in Goa (CIOL)

NEW DELHI: Digital imaging company Canon India Pvt Limited
recently held the 'Canon Power Champ Meet', an exclusive event
for Canon Dealers.

http://www.ciol.com/content/news/2006/106121101.asp


*** Sporting Clube de Goa in Shield semis (Outlook India)

Sporting Clube de Goa moved into the semi-final of the 112th
IFA Shield football tournament with a goalless draw against
Mumbai's Mahindra United here today.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=436062


*** Goans fight back to save green belt (IBN via Yahoo! India
News)

Goa s natural charms are world famous but its beauty, so
popular among tourists, could be at risk. Thanks to Goa
government.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/061212/211/6a7q8.html


*** Six killed in Goa's mining tragedy (Yahoo! India News)

Panaji (Goa), Dec 10 (IANS) Six workers were killed when iron
ore mining dumps collapsed in the Tollem mines in Goa, police
said Sunday.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/061210/43/6a6dq.html


*** Harvinder, Murali put brakes on Goa fightback (Indian
Express via Yahoo! India News)

The agenda for the Railways team on day three of their Ranji
Trophy Plate league tie against Goa was pretty straightforward.
Use the morning freshness, get early wickets, and put pressure
on the visitors. And it unfolded pretty much the same way, with
the hosts picking up four wickets before lunch to reduce Goa to
237/6; the follow-on target of 386 looking a considerable
distance away.But ...

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Re: [Goanet] GLOBAL GOANS CONVENTION FARCE

2006-12-12 Thread Roland Francis

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Way to go Aires!

An IFFI benefits Panjim as much as corruption benefits the mess in Goa.

Roland.

On 12/10/06, airesrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With Goa still recovering from the IFFI hangover we
 will soon have yet another State-sponsored fiesta. A
 three day Global Goans Convention is scheduled from
 3rd to 5th Jan. This, like IFFI, seems to be another
 annual ritual, which the taxpayers have to bear.

 The current very high levels of corruption in Goa is
 something every Non-Resident Goan detests. So a war on
 corruption by the Government of Goa could be the
 starting point in bringing Goa closer to every
 Non-Resident Goan.

 Some action and not another extravagant convention is
 the need of the hour.

 Aires Rodrigues
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[Goanet] Origins of Crab Mentality /Reply to Cornel

2006-12-12 Thread Sunith D Velho

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Dear Cornel,

Have you ever observed what happens when you put a couple of crabs in a 
shallow pot?

Having spent many hours as a child indulging in this mindless 
acticvity( As I'm sure  any kid who has access to live crabs has also), 
I can assure you that the following link from Wikipdeia best correctly 
describes the origin of this phrase.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

The regularity in the Goan-English use of this  word is pehaps beacause 
of the abundance of  crabs in Goa and Goans whose thinking fit that 
description.

Best Regards
Sunith



Cornel writes:

I am curious to discover, the origins of this term and what exactly it 
is supposed to mean please? Is it a translation of a Konkani term? -- 
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[Goanet] Double the pleasure

2006-12-12 Thread Mervyn Lobo

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Folks,
One last appeal for you to buy raffle tickets. 

Ticket sales have been encouraging over the last few
days. I am still searching for those last minute
buyers. Please take a few minutes to buy those
tickets. You will be contributing to those who want to
do some good in Goa but lack the funds.

This raffle has opened our eyes to what can be
achieved with a little cooperation. Goan authors were
the first to come forward. Now we have all sorts of
interest and support. However, we still need to sell
those tickets. After all, we are trying to raise funds
and the appeal is aimed at those who can help.

One more thing, if ticket sales reach our target, I
can get the price money to DOUBLE next year.

Mervyn3.0
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Re: [Goanet] The Goan crab mentality!

2006-12-12 Thread Santosh Helekar

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Cornel,

Usage of the term crab mentality is not unique to
Goans. I have witnessed it being used by people from
other parts of India in reference to Indians in
general. I had a professor in Bangalore who was fond
of pointing out specific examples of the crab
mentality of his colleagues. I also know that other
close-knit world communities wield it in their moments
of self-hate.

The term itself refers to a rather curious cancrine
behavioral trait. You might have noticed that live
crabs tend not to escape from a basket even if it is
left open. The reason for this is when one crab tries
to climb out of the basket, others invariably pull it
down. Of course, it is unlikely that crabs have a
mind, and therefore, any semblance of a mentality.

Cheers,

Santosh


--- Cornel DaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The term Goan crab mentality is used often, as
 below, by a poster on 
 Goanet. I am curious to discover, the origins of
 this term and what exactly 
 it is supposed to mean please? Is it a translation
 of a Konkani term? Are 
 there several nuances to the term? Is the term
 specific to Goans or are 
 other groups supposedly 'infected' by it too?  What
 is the link to the 
 humble crab?


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[Goanet] Goans can survive without too much of overseas

2006-12-12 Thread Anthony M Barreto

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Well among hundreds of other reasons why Goa is still
the best,there is one place in Gaondongrim (now don't
ask me where it is) called Indrawadi(?)
My friend some things are best experienced than said
or told.
Please come and let me know when you are coming. 
I am not a tourist guide but I earn about 700 a day.
So please excuse me for making myself clear on how
much I expect beisdes travelling expenses.
Best regards
Tony Martin
P.S.: If you only intend to visit Canacona, well be my
guest. Only travel expenses. A quarter of feni
complimentary with a couple of home made papads and a
pinch of the 'best' mango pickle you have had in any
part of the globe. You could add that as another
reason why Goa is the best. 

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:31:55 -0500
From: JOANITA FERNANDEZ 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans can survive without too
much of overseas
sermons.
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Hi Tony Martin,

  Thank you for your offer. I accept your offer.  I
will appreciate if 
you 
could let me know 'where exactly you could take me to
show why Goa is 
still 
the best'

Regards,

  Cip Fernandes
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[Goanet] Subject: Global Goans Convention (FWD a reply received)

2006-12-12 Thread JoeGoaUk

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Date: 12 Dec 2006 11:42:03 - 
From: Eduardo Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Global Goans Convention 


  OFFICE OF THE COMMISSIONER FOR NRI AFFAIRS
  (Cabinet Minister Rank)
GOVERNMENT OF GOA
  


  

  


   December 12, 2006 


  Dear Sir,
This is with reference to your kind e-mail re. registration fees for the Global 
Goans
Convention.  The fees as well as the programme were released on our website
www.globalgoans.org.in.  The website is in existence for the last two months 
and was widely
advertised.  However, in view of your request as well as of some others, the 
Hon. Commissioner
for NRI Affairs has directed that there should be no increase in the 
registration fee.  It
will continue to be Rs.1000/- or US $20 per adult and Rs.500/- or US $10 for 
students.


  


   With regards 
  

  


 Yours sincerely
  

  
   



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[Goanet] (no subject)

2006-12-12 Thread newton filomeno

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Dear Floriano,

Thanks for the inspiring message. Good one that!
Much appreciated; but I was talking about the Goans in Melbourne in 
particular.
All said and done, 'was wondering why the analogy with the Singaporeans.
I have lived there, they are the worser lot than the Goans. Except that they 
earn more and spend more too?

We have to be appreciated by our deeds and not by comparisions. We should 
try to deter happennings that are bad everyone, not ones that are good for 
the general community. This is what Goans all over don't simply understand?

Have a wonderful Xmas!

Newton Marques. (not yet Sir, and wouldn't like to be!).

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[Goanet] San Francisco: Goan holiday lunch this Saturday, Dec 16

2006-12-12 Thread George Pinto

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Dear friends,

If you are a Goan or a Goan well-wisher, you won't want to miss this 
opportunity to support a good
cause and show your concern for the land of your ancestors. Make the time, show 
you care.

Please come to the Goa Sudharop holiday lunch party in San Francisco Bay area 
(Fremont,
California). All invited, no membership required.
 
DATE: SATURDAY, DEC 16, LUNCH FROM 11:30AM-2:30PM.
PLACE:GOLDEN PEACOCK BANQUET HALL.
ADDRESS:  3681 PERALTA BLVD., FREMONT, CALIFORNIA, 94536. TEL: 510-494-9460.
PRICE:$15 FOR AGES 11  ABOVE. $10 FOR AGES 6-10. AGES 5  UNDER FREE. PAY 
AT THE DOOR.
LUNCH:INDIAN CUISINE. INCLUDES APPETIZERS, ENTREES, DESSERT, SOFT DRINK, 
COFFEE/TEA.

Even though you will pay at the door, please RSVP with the number in your party 
by DEC 13 to
ACARIA ALMEIDA at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925-376-2737 so we have an advance 
headcount. Please pass
this message on to your family and friends. Thank you for your support.

Sincerely,
Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org

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Re: [Goanet] The mess that is Goa/response to Mario

2006-12-12 Thread Carvalho

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--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mario observes:
 
 Helga,
 I'm glad that your friend, Stacey, saw none of ... 
 the mounting garbage, the reckless traffic, the
 ugly facade of new buildings erected without
 planning
 and without a hint of an architectural soul in
 them.
 
 Neither did I the last time I was in Goa.

---
Mario,
It doesn't surprise me that you didn't see the ugly
buildings replacing old beautiful one, nor notice the
mounting garbage. Compared to New York, Goa is
positively pristine.

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Re: [Goanet] Gulab Jaam (Was: Goa is............)

2006-12-12 Thread Sunith D Velho

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Selma writes:
Everyone there was as Goan as our gaunti dog, patto ladru.

If you weren't a Goan(albeit a reluctant one) yourself, the above 
statement would be a grave insult to those Goans resident in Goa and 
anyone proud of his Goan origins.

For your information:
1] There are no commonly known Goan breeds of Dog. 2] Gaunti is used 
by most people to refer to the origins of food. It is only used by the 
misguided elites as an adjective to describe people.

I'm sure you can come up with something better if you are trying to 
describe how 'Goan' a person is.

Regards
Sunith

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[Goanet] A dream for Goa!

2006-12-12 Thread krishna naik

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Dear Goans,

I do hereby request your goodselves to kindly use your good offices to do 
the needfull to pass this project to every goan.

If you can sponsor a one line advertisement in the goan dailies will be a 
big help.


http://goamyhome.blogspot.com


It be fruitfull if this project reach the Goan ears atleast 2 weeks before 
the Goa bachao abhiyan at Azad Maidan on the 18th of December 2006.

Please pass this message to all the Goans and Goan associations etc.you 
know.

Hope you will do the needfull.

With fond gratitude,

Goanbaba

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Re: [Goanet] Archives Goa Medical School

2006-12-12 Thread Frederick Noronha

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Interesting question. Could anyone help Isabel? FN

On 12/12/06, Isabel Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear colleague,

 I am looking for data about students of the Goa Medical School from 1902 to
 1942. I would like to know if they are natives, luso-descendents or
 Europeans, to understand the relationship established between the Portuguese
 medical staff and the spread of the east ideas on Portuguese Goa. Could you
 help me?

 Best regards,

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[Goanet] The Goan crab mentality!

2006-12-12 Thread Gilbert Lawrence

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Hi Cornel,

The term Goan crab mentality, I am told, stems from the story of a Goan 
fisherman having gone to the market with a basket of live crabs.  At the fish 
market, he kept the basket open.  

A suprulo tourist asked him why does he not cover the basket, as the active and 
energetic crabs could easily crawl out of the basket.  
The experienced fisherman replied, These are Goan crabs.  When any crab climbs 
up to get out of the basket, the other crabs will definitely catch it and pull 
it back to the bottom of the basket.
Now you know the origin of the Goan saying.

Now in your worldwide travel and encounters with Goans, would you validate this 
saying?
You do not have to reply to this rhetorical question.:=))
Kind Regards, GL

- Cornel DaCosta 

The term Goan crab mentality is used often.  What is the link to the humble 
crab? To date I have not come across it as a term in everyday English usage. 
Just curious and with definitely no axe to grind! 
Thanks, Cornel

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[Goanet] God-man

2006-12-12 Thread Albert Desouza

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Dear Friends
From the time I made a trip to Pota and saw the first miracle over there, 
thousands eat sleep and pray without any problem. I learnt to pray alone 
opening my heart to God and of late I have just been getting stray thoughts 
which often tell me that this is not accordance to God's will. The priest 
talking about natural family planning and talking about cycles safe and 
unsafe. While on one side God himself is telling us increase and multiple, 
the priest tell us to restrict our family. While one side Jesus is telling 
us If you want to come to my Father you have to come to me, the church 
talks about devotion to Mary and her intercession. Mary herself never told 
us that she is going to save us but Jesus did.Jesus spoke about heaven and 
hell and from where did the purgoratory arrive? In the bible no mention is 
made as where Jesus went after been burried while the I believe states he 
descended among the dead. So all the confusion is created by the priests 
themselves and Dr.Carmo is calling me Helluvial confused Goan or east Indian 
or Mangalorean as if they are not human beings.Idiots speak like idiots. 
Today it looks like the Roman Catholic church is bankrupt otherwise why the 
hell boxes are placed all over the church near each and every images?
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[Goanet] Goa Regional Plan 2011 to Crucify Natural Heritage

2006-12-12 Thread goadesc

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Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your
family members, relatives, neighbours and friends.
Help others be BETTER INFORMED,
The time is come for the people of Goa
to ORGANISE not AGONISE !!


Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
---
Regional Plan 2011 to Crucify Natural Heritage 
---

by Prajal Sakhardande 

Natural History is a very important branch of History. 
Natural Heritage naturally follows from there. Our 
destructive, unscrupulous, hasty, malicious, vicious, 
greedy vermins that is the politicians of Goa need to 
be educated in these two branches of history and our 
electorate needs to be literate and educated about them. 

Wake up to the fact that they don’t love us neither 
they have Goa in their heart and hence the destructive 
regional Plan 2011. They have therefore “planned” to 
systematically deface Goa. Remember they are all 
hand-in-glove. Goa is being sold by them. Our mother 
green Goa is for sale. As our angry young doctor 
Oscar Rebello puts it “Goa is being raped by them.” 
An architect perceives this Regional Plan-2011 
as a huge “Land Scam”.

In ancient times kings amassed huge booties and the 
war spoils were distributed between the king and his 
ministers. The 21st century Goan political scene is 
no different. Here the “King” and his “Kingpins” will 
enjoy the spoil of the Regional Plan-2011. Should we 
sleep over this land scam nee the Regional Plan 2011. 

Builders from Goa, Mumbai, Dubai hand-in-glove with 
our ministers and bureaucrats are out to roll 
earthmovers on our beautiful green hills at Betim, 
Baga, Arpora, Terekhol and at various prime hills 
in practically all the talukas of Goa. 

Thanks to the Regional Plan 2011 Goa will wear a ugly 
look. Our natural beauty, our mangroves, coastal belt, 
agriculture, trees will be axed to satisfy the 
unsatiated greed of the politician and the builder. 

Goa has a rich wealth of natural heritage. Our 
beaches like Morjim, Harmal, Mandrem, Kerim in the 
Pednem taluka, coastline of Bardez, Salcette, Murgao, 
Canacona will be victims of this dubious Regional 
plan. The Heritage trees of Panaji were axed at 
Tambdi-Mati-St Inez in the name of beautification. 
Nowhere in the world beautification takes place 
by cutting trees. Trees add beauty to the city. 
The historic rain tree avenue of Panaji at Campal 
is our unique heritage. 

At Candolim-Orda a hill is being cut. The Calangute 
hill will wear an ugly crown not of green olives 
like the Greeks did but a crown made of concrete. 
Have a look at the ugly Tata eyesore at Betim over
looking Panaji. The entire stretch of the Betim-Verem 
hills will be a eyesore, thanks to the Town and 
Country Planning Dept, Government of Goa. The 
governments we elect to serve us finally turn out 
to be our greatest enemies. 

The very existence of Goa is at stake. All our NGOs 
have come together to fight the Draconian Regional 
Plan-2011. The whole of Goa should rise to this 
historic occasion and be there in large numbers on 
December 18, 2006 at Panaji to oppose the Regional 
Plan 2011. 

We have to save our Natural Heritage of Goa, 
her beautiful beaches, her hills, her mangroves, 
her agricultural lands, her trees. We also need 
to save our Mhadei from being diverted by the 
Karnataka government. 

We need to save our heritage temples, Old Goa 
world heritage site from the proposed garbage 
treatment plant. With noted conservation architect 
Ms Poonam Verma in tow we went to dialogue with 
the temple committee of Navadurga temple at 
Paigunium in the Canacona taluka to save the 
heritage of the said temple. 

We have to fight and fight and fight! 
Let us unitedly fight to save Goa. Save Goa’s 
timeless natural history and natural heritage. 
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 616

2006-12-12 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha

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By which time, Bernardo will find some other grounds to snub plebs
like you and me! Not worth the try :-) 500 (minus four) years too
late. Or at least four-and-half decades.  FN

On 12/12/06, Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Leah David,

 It is time that you spent some moments in your life
 learning Portuguese, give up the French. Than dear you
 can become an 'Goan elitist'. Stop the whinging.

 Pls follow this link:
 www.instituto-camoes.pt/cvc/aprender

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Re: [Goanet] Intolerance and tolerance .... Holland considers Saree ban

2006-12-12 Thread Gabe Menezes

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On 12/12/06, Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yeah, just like Blair's intervention in Iraq has empowered the Iraqis.
 Oh well, at least this time he's hassling his own citizens instead of
 invading other countries and empowering their citizens...

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RESPONSE: O no, this will call for another rant and rave from our
resident...phoo phoo.
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[Goanet] SGPIAG - 6TH ANNIVERSARY chalo azad maidan -Panaji

2006-12-12 Thread President(sgpiag)

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We,at South Goa Public Interest Action Group  (SGPIAG)
a registered NGO based in Margao,Salcete, South Goa
District ,with jurisdiction, at present, over the
entire South Goa District, are delighted that we have
today completed six years since the
formation/registeration  of our  NGO.

This anniversary the members have resolved to extend
their unstinted support to a Peoples Movement -- under
the aegis of  SAVE GOA  front that is building up to
save Goa from a man-made catastrophe the  REGIONAL
PLAN 2011 which tends to convert vast agricultural
land to settlements; not to meet the growing
requirements of the ever fragmenting Goan families but
to make Goa a land of and for --- GOANS OF ANY
ORIGIN  by the turn of this decade.

It may be recalled that last year 2005 our NGO
alongwith several other citizens groups provided
logistic support to the movement to repeal a draconian
ordinance that was introduced by the Goa Government.  

This time the Regional Plan 2011 as approved vide
Gazetted dated 10th August 2006 portends extensive
damage to this tiny 25th  State of Goa and which would
have a irreparable damage to the demographic
composition and the nature gifted assets that makes us
and our tiny 25th State of India distinct from the
rest of the country a cynosure of all eyes.

Therefore on this anniversary we appeal to Goans world
wide to lend support to the Peoples' Movement and
ensure that the REGIONAL PLAN 2011 is consigned to the
waste paper basket. 

Note well that after the coming hustings (state
elections) in February, 2007 or May 2007 the deluge of
migrants will far exceed the 3.5 lacs of the total
population of 14 odd lacs as per 2001 census and with
the changes in the Regional Plan 2011 the real estate
industry will change the landscape and put extensive
pressure on our natural resources, and outdated
infrastructure.

Hence its now or never visit   www.savegoa.com for
further details and lend your support to the movement
by sending messages in support - email them to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] HELPLINE 9822160493 OR 9822122235
  
We at SGPIAG also appeal to the Non resident Goans who
may descend in Goa ---to join in large numbers and
carry placards banners whatever to register your
protest against the REGIONAL PLAN 2011, on 18th
December, 2006 eve of the 45th aniversary of the
Liberation of Goa at 1500 hrs IST for a massive rally
at  AZAD MAIDAN at Panaji.  

It is of interest to note as well that the audio
visual and print media too has been building up the
tempo to make this peoples movement a turning point in
the anals of Goan history.

Meanwhile we assure all our well wishers and the
people of Goa in general of our unstinted assistance
at all times round the clock -- and remain sensitive
to issues affecting the State and the people of Goa.






For SOUTH GOA PUBLIC INTEREST ACTION GROUP 
Regd No 171/GOA/2000 dt 12.12.2000
sd/- 
TERENCE MAZARELO
PRESIDENT (SGPIAG)
1st Flr Benlix Bldg Opp Fatima Convent Margao Goa India
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
weblink http://mumbai.sancharnet.in/manojnd
FAX +91 832 2712430
HELPLINE (24 hrs) 9822158584
Tel +91 832 2731373 (O)
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT GOA/INDIA  
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[Goanet] AICHEA DISAK CHINTOP - Dezembrachi 13vi, 2006!

2006-12-12 Thread domnic fernandes

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Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here!
  Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa.
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Dhoniam Devan jivit sompem vortovtelem mhunn bhasavnk nam, punn Tannem 
sodamkal tujea sangata assonk bhasailam.


(The Lord did not promise that life would be easy, but he did promise to be 
with you always.)


Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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[Goanet] Goans do not need overseas sermons

2006-12-12 Thread Miguel Braganza

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Dear Rico,

  Both may be right BUT there is one big DIFFERENCE: Tony lives in Goa. Cip 
is a 'Come and Gone'  Goan ;-) I have met both of them.

   Definitely one does not see the best of Goa in Swinden, UKand Goa may 
change beyond recognition if the Regional Plan 2011 is implemented. Those 
who want to preserve Goa, should come here and fight for it. Goans in Goa 
are not some caretakers for those who are raking in the moolah abroad...and 
want the best of both the places. Will Cip come to Goa on 18 Dec. for the 
Morcha?

  Viva Goa.

  Miguel


From: Frederick 'FN' Noronha:
I guess my two friends (Cip and Tony) have differing definitions of
'best'. Both might just be right :-) FN


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Re: [Goanet] Assistance required to contact Goan Authors

2006-12-12 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro

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Dear Mr. Cota,
  You can reach Jose Pereira at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Best regards,
  Victor Rangel-Ribeiro

Joao Paulo N Cota wrote:

Dr Jose Pereira (author of 'Song of Goa' book on manddes, dulpods, etc)
Dr Teresa de Albuquerque (author of a book on the village of Santa Cruz, 
Goa).
Would appreciate if anybody could help in obtaining the contacts 
(email/phone) of both of the above writers. 


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Re: [Goanet] Goans can survive without too much of overseas sermons.

2006-12-12 Thread JOANITA FERNANDEZ

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Fred,

  As usual, you are WRONG

  I think Tony and I have the same definition of quot;bestquot;.  However, 
what Tony has agreed to show me so-called 'Goa still the best' - our 
interpretation what we will see could differ.

  Cip

Frederick 'FN' Noronha wrote:
  
I guess my two friends (Cip and Tony) have differing definitions of 'best'. 
Both might just be right :-) FN


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