[Goanet-news] Goanet... nostalgia... gambling... idiomatic usage ... Sporting news ... lyrical Goa ... etc (Dr Cornel da Costa on goanvoice.org.uk)
RECENT ITEMS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST ON GOANET. BY CORNEL DACOSTA An interesting question posed on Goanet was---Would it be true to say that the 'nostalgia' of second or third generation Goan expats reflects more the realities of Goa of the 1940s and 1950s, then say the Goa of the 1980s or 1990s? Wouldn't Goan Voice (UK) readers like to have a say about this? Ruth de Souza from New Zealand has provided, once again, an interesting article on Gambling: Causing More Harm Than Good. This relates to earlier reportage on the GV(UK) that ten new offshore casinos will be established in Goa. The article reflects Ruth's sound knowledge of this issue arising from her work on an annual International Gambling Think Tank and a follow up International Conference on Gambling. Does it matter if one's parents are married or not? Find out about this theme from an article,(first out in April 2003), what Christa D'Souza (now a baroness) had to say about this. Her parents separated when she was five but at 58 and 73 respectively, they remarried! How significant is the use of correct grammar today, compared to say, idiomatic usage in the spoken and written word? There has been quite a buzz on this issue on Goanet and GV(UK) readers may wish to provide further comments, especially, as many 'versions' of English are used in the UK and worldwide. Goanet is a useful source for sporting news in Goa and the Goan Diaspora. From field hockey to ice hockey, soccer, tennis and athletics, there is much that gets reported very regularly. GV(UK) readers are urged to read an insightful piece on A Feeling of Goan Separateness from the rest of the Country by Sidharth Bhatia. This item also draws our attention to a new collection of pieces on Goa that reveals why it is an exceptional place, and also why it generates so much exceptionalism among its inhabitants. Finally, Lyrical Goa: Brian reads at XCHR's History Hour tells us about Delhi-based Goan poet Brian Mendonca reading his own poems at the History Hour on 21 Dec 2006 in Goa. In weaving history into poetry, Brian said that he always saw his work as a calling to creatively document a way of life in Goa which is under erasure. His paper, titled History in the Making: Goa Through Poetic Eyes 1987-2007, is definitely well worth reading. Please visit the Goanet archives at http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ To subscribe to Goanet send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Courtesy: http://www.goanvoice.org.uk) ___ Goanet-news mailing list Goanet-news@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-news-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Sausages In A Rosary
Ah what wouldn't I give for a small bottle of miscut and tendlim in masala. And a packet of satam (flattened, sweetened dried jackfruit). A bottle of Black Label any day. Roland. On 12/29/06, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070115fname=HMapusa+(F)sid=1 chepnim and the miscut, made from the youngest mangoes; the tendlim, young gherkins in brine or masala; The Mapusa market is also home to some of Goa's most famous bakeries, and the market is especially visited for their most un-Goan hot cross
[Goanet] My comments on Archbishop's speech...........
Three cheers to Archbishop The forthrightness timely seriousness shown by archbishop Rev. Filipe Neri Ferrao through his speech on miserable state of affairs in Goa at the Annual Christmas Civic Reception in front of invited MLAs, ministers, chief minister, governor and other creamily layers of Goa needs to be highly praised. Hope his message develops Concern for Goa feelings in all Goans! And as mentioned by Archbishop One should put one's house in order before trying to put someone else's brings desired effects. Following Archbishop's remarkable speech the first startle came from Dr. Willy, the deputy chief minister of Goa, confessing publicly saying the Regional Plan 2006 (RP) was never discussed before the cabinet. I was not even given a draft copy of controversial RP. Second to get exposed is our Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industries (GCCI). GCCI's earlier firm stand on RP declared by their president on 22/12/06 and now re-thinking logic suggested by GCCI on RP also indirectly points fingers to their own illogically creating publishing their agenda titled Goa agenda: hopes opportunities of the new millennium 2006. Where does GCCI stand on their differed views and on their proposed agenda which almost the other side of the same coin - RP in the eyes of general public? Considering the timings and date general public now gossip resignation of Churchill Alemao as aftereffect of archbishop speech - which is not much convincing! Any way, many more wanders that were hidden behind finalizing RP and other misdeeds are expected to mushroom out only to show one's clean hands. But in the process complete picture about RP and other misdeeds will be out for public viewing and grasping the truth involved. This will ultimately open the eyes of general public which will help public court to decide who and who are to be sentenced to guillotine in the upcoming Goa assembly election! I hope so!! Dr. U. G. Barad Margao - Goa
[Goanet] Modern Conversions (Was: Goanet Should be...................)
Some Goan Catholics have become Hindus. That is why they do not follow Catholic customs. Some Hindus have become Catholics. Many Catholics and Hindus have given up the Goan custom of casteism. Many believers have become non-believers. A few atheists have found one or more post-modern gods. Grandmothers in general have become more tolerant and respectful of the harmless beliefs and practices of their grandchildren. Hope the new year brings us more such positive developments. Happy New Year to one and all! Cheers, Santosh --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most Catholic Goans (sp. in the Diaspora) have lost their cultural identity (customs) - except for song, dance, food and drink. Many are LEFT ONLY WITH their religious customs (rituals) as reflected at childbirth, marriage and funeral. Now some intellectual Goans - atheists / agnostics / secular humanists - want us to loose the religious identity too; under the guise of being progressive. Yet they insists on wanting to preserve their 'Goaness'. In the above scenario, I often wonder what the primary grade (educated) grandmothers and great-grandmothers are saying about their progeny who are double-graduates from borem-vodlem universities. Kind Regards, GL
[Goanet] re (Goanet) Talking photos: Poder Poder Ponk Ponk (A feedback)
It's seems there are now 'third generation poder' in Diwar Island(Goa). 'Poder' or baker in this area, come by Maruti car. The writer, who has just returned to Gulf, even told me he had a picture of it on a CD but was left behind (back home). === Talking photos: Poder Poder Ponk Ponk http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=337323623size=l As part of my 1970s memory. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] St Xavier's College?
Dear Miguel, If I am not mistaken, St. Catherine of Alexandria is not the Patron Saint of Goa (whether archdiocese or state) but is the Patron Saint of the Cathedral Church (Se Catedral) at Old Goa. Jorge - Original Message - From: Miguel Braganza Dear Tony, Rightly or wrongly, St.Xavier's College HSS, Mapusa, is the Alma Mater of many of us...and we are 'possesive' about it. The 'Goemcho Saib' does not own it, the Archdiocese of Goa does. SFX is not even Goa's Patron Saint of the Archdiocese...but that does not make any differnece to us. We own him as our very own saint. Half the Catholics in Goa do not know who St.Catherine is, or when her feast is celebrated or that she is the official Patron Saint of Goa. They do not care , either.
Re: [Goanet] NRIs lend a helping hand to poor Dhangar family in Goa (Preetu Nair)
A very heart-warming story indeed. There are perhaps thousands of such needy families in Goa. We need to reach out to help them become self sufficient. As the saying goes give a man some fish and he will feed his family for a day, instead give him a fishing line or fishing net and he will feed his family for a lifetime. So glad to hear that there are such kind hearted individuals in Goa and in the diaspora. Goanet News Service wrote: Editor's Note: Preetu Nair's first article on this subject titled Living on 7 rupees a day! was posted on Goanet in October 2006. Preetu Nair consistently draws our attention to social issues that are sometimes neglected in Goa: http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=563 NRIs lend a helping hand to poor Dhangar family in Goa Preetu Nair
[Goanet] World's Top 99 Women
Have a look. 2 Indians-Aishwarya Rai #47 and Lisa Ray (indo-Canadian) #73. 99 most desirable women as listed on Askmen.com. However they only see whom they can see, if you know what I mean. http://ca.askmen.com/specials/2006_top_99/ Cheers and happy dreams goanetters. Roland.
[Goanet] Archbishop.s address
Albert writes Why does the Archbishop thought of criticising the ministers and politicians? Were the clergy not the part of these politicians? I have seen on my tv a priest praising to the sky one particular minister on his birthday bash. I heard him say that mr.so and so is so and so. all positive adjectives. So many priests had joined the election meetings and were heard speaking in favour of the candidates of a particular party. I have heard priests shouting from the pulpit to avoid voting for communal candidates.In the first case it is not right for the archbishop to host dinner when so many priests are living a miserable life when posted in the remote areas. I have seen that in Tormas the parish priest had no toilet for years together and one was built only when the church was taken by paloti fathers and that too because the parish priest took the initiative. It is not right to sit with ministers and politicians for dinner when so many goans are living in poverty. Whose money is spent on dinner ours?The clergy is known to have a fat bank account and luxurious cars which normally their salary could not afford them.Why blame the politicians when we ourselves are corrupt? albert _ Get up-to-date with movies, music and TV. Its happening on MSN Entertainment http://content.msn.co.in/Entertainment/Default
[Goanet] Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao's New Yea r Greetings for 2007
Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao's New Year Greetings for 2007 I am glad to send to the people of Goa my cordial greetings and best wishes for a happy and prosperous New Year. In the year gone by, we had to face situations of violence and injustice that robbed Goa of the peace and wellbeing that everyone desires. Indeed, peace and wellbeing are yearnings planted by God in the heart of every person, regardless of his or her religious or cultural background. It is, therefore, becoming more and more necessary to build peace together: peace that can find satisfactory solutions to the problems of our day, founded on the dignity of the human person and on an integral development of the society. May the Lord inspire and help us all to be committed to tireless peace-making and to a strenuous defence of the dignity of the human person and of his inalienable rights. + Filipe Neri Ferrão Archbishop of Goa and Daman Archbishop's House, Panjim, December 31, 2006. http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=696
[Goanet] Silly question
What is the equation, if any, among the military (Navy), religious heads (such as the church) and the state? Recently, top government functionaries like the Governor and Chief Minister reportedly attended a homily given by the Archbishop about the situation in Goa. I dont seem to recall seeing a mention of the presence of the Rear Admiral of Goa Area at the function. We also dont hear about the attendance of the chief minister et al at the celebration of Navy week in Goa. Is everybody on the same wavelength or not? Only then can we conclude that the top leaders of Goa are really and truly interested in the welfare of its people. Cheers.
[Goanet] Cabinet Decision on RP 2011
We all know the old saying about a species of rodent leaving a vessel which is about to be submerged. Likewise, those in authority who are guilty of tacitly approving the notorious Regional Plan 2011 are now busy proclaiming their opposition to it! The latest one to join the queue is PWD Minister Sudhin Davalikar, who is reported to have stated that the Plan Notification was approved by the Cabinet through circulation and that there was no discussion on it, even though he signed it without recording any dissent! If such vital issues which will affect the future of our State for generations are decided by our Cabinet without any discussion, one wonders what they discuss when they DO meet - the price of fish or the latest Bollywood blockbuster, perhaps? Wonders never cease in our wonderful Goa! ---Tony Correia-Afonso. ** Tony Correia-Afonso 542 Pulvaddo,Benaulim, Goa 403716, India. Phone:91-832-2772063
[Goanet] OVERSEAS GOANS NEED TO BE HEARD AND NOT JUST FETED
Goa cannot afford to be forever hospitable. Yet another State-sponsored fiesta is taking off by way of a three day Global Goans Convention from 3rd to 5th Jan. This edition of the now annual ritual will cost the taxpayers almost half a crore rupees if not more. That money could have been better spent in hotmixing Panaji's internal roads, which are in a critical and pathetic condition. Every one knows the issues of concern to Goans overseas. There is no need to hold these annual conclaves which anyway is not attended by many non-resident Goans. There have been so many International Goan Conventions that have deliberated issues concerning Goa and related to Non-Resident Goans. What we need is some action on the part of the government to redress the concerns and demands of Goans living abroad. Now that the damage to the state exchequer has been done, the Convention should at least deliberate the anti-Goa, anti-people and anti-environment Goa Regional Plan 2011. The non resident Goans should realize that the destruction of the green belt surrounding our urban areas will cause havoc to the fragile ecosystem as Goa will be turned into an urban jungle. This Goa Regional Plan 2011 will open the floodgates of uncontrolled migration from the rest of India and Goans will be literally a dying breed. We need to develop an environmental vision for Goa. We need to sink our political differences and be very concerned about Goas environmental and ecological future. Many Non resident Goans (NRG) after years of service abroad long to settle in the land of their origin. But for many reasons they get disheartened and give up. Many Goans feel the urge to play a role in shaping the future of Goa but the authorities would have to play their part to encourage them to return and invest their skills and savings in the land of their roots. The very high level of corruption in Goa is something every NRG detests. So a war on corruption by the Government of Goa could be the starting point in bringing Goa closer to every NRG. The modern NRGs are far more professional, skilled, articulate, motivated, caring and affluent than the previous generation. They have an empathy towards Goa and regard it more than just another holiday destination. These sentiments have to be tapped by the Government with the aim of seeking mutual benefit. All too often the Government is out to exploit and fleece them. The bureaucratic processes endemic in Indian methodology puts off many Non Residents from investing locally. NRGs also feel that the prospects of a good education in Goa for their children are bleak and that is something the Government should focus on. Good hospitals and quality professional educational institutions are something Goa so dearly needs. Overall, if Goas infrastructure is improved this will motivate many NRGs to come back and set up shop in the place that is so dear to them. But like in other States of India, politicians have their fingers in every pie, and nothing runs professionally or free from political interference. In recent years a lot of Goan politicians have made overseas trips, ostensibly to study projects abroad. It was expected that they would bring home some ideas to improve things here. Unfortunately, these trips at taxpayer expense have in reality been shopping and sightseeing junkets for our ever so greedy politicians. Who can blame the NRGs from despising our politicians after witnessing them in action abroad? Some action and not another extravagant convention is the need of the hour. There is no point draining the state exchequer by way of these farcical conventions with no clear agenda and only merry making at public cost. Aires Rodrigues - C/G-2, Shopping Complex, Ribandar Retreat, Ribandar - Goa - 403 006 Tel: 0832- 2444012 Off , 0832- 2443308 Res, Mobile: 09822684372 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Cameo collage: A new anthology of writings on Goa leaves Arshad Said Khan exasperated and enchanted in equal measure
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main24.asp?filename=hub123006Cameo_collage.asp Cameo collage A new anthology of writings on Goa leaves Arshad Said Khan exasperated and enchanted in equal measure REFLECTED IN WATER Jerry Pinto, ed Penguin 312 pp; Rs 395 Boasting of writers ranging from William Dalrymple to the 16th century's John Huyghen Van Linschoten (with several Indians in between), Jerry Pinto's archival genius shines through this odd anthology of historical essays, autobiography, novel extracts, short fiction, biographical snippets, folk tales, articles on food and feni, and a smattering of poetry. Not to forget a graphic fable and extracts from the Internet. Phew! This smorgasbord of pop-history-cum-pop-account of Goa and Goan culture packed into watercolour-shaded blue, pick-me-up paperback looked appetising enough. And Reflected in Water has glorious moments, many of them. One can be charmed by the Chaucerian romp in Richard Burton's From Goa and Blue Mountains, while the fragmented Catrina and Her Followers by Mario Cabral e Sa will leave you longing for more. The very postmodern Virtual Goa (possibly blog, e-group or chatroom dialogue) was entertaining as was the article on tiatr, Konkani farcical theatre. The opening Konkani Folk Songs by Jose Pereira and Micael Martins was an instant seduction — followed, sadly, by some fairly stodgy reading on Liberation myths, the role of pigs in the laterite system, the language problem and how Goa has been misrepresented. This part was all very educative but not terribly interesting: it's hard suppressing a yawn when one is made to learn for the third time how St. Francis Xavier's toe was severed. The book points out that Hindus are the majority in the state — not that one would have guessed going by the Table of Contents, peopled mostly by Christian writers and their varied perspectives. Courtesy Reflected in Water, I learnt more about Goan Catholics (especially the Jesuits) than I ever will in my life. Goa is, after all, a hybrid, a pastiche of the foreign and the local, parts of it terminally insipid and parts of it utterly fascinating Pinto's Army will tell you that some in Goa miss the Portuguese, some do not and some are ambivalent. George Menezes (in an unintentionally funny piece) mourns the loss of Iberian etiquette while R. Parthasarthy speaks of bloody conversions. Also apparent is the Goan Catholic-Gothic gloom, rather a regional noir of sorts, that pervades the writings of Nisha Da Cunha, Sonia Faleiro and Margaret Mascarenhas. Sticking out like a sore, black-inkstained thumb, however, is the graphic short fiction piece, The Old Crone Says: Three Goan Death Stories by the editor himself along with Pria Agni and P. Vel Kumar. After such motifs as the 'bad woman', the 'drunken bastard' and the baroque church facing into a storm, you'd think all Goans lead quirky lifestyles in creepy old mansions. More convincing revelations are to be found in Prabhakar S. Angle's Misunderstanding Goa and Richard Lannoy's The Inner and Outer Life of Goa, the latter providing not only information but a pidgin perspective. Well. That is all nice and fine, but where's the party? The more popular and frivolous face of Goa finds space with Cleo Odzer and Alexander Frater. Then there are enchanting cuisine tales like The Goan Bread Vendor by Laxmanrao Sardesai and Antoine Lewis' No Blood in the Snake Oil — which is where I met the moral of the book (I wasn't looking for one, promise, it just happened to me). Goa is, after all, a hybrid, a pastiche of the foreign and the local; parts of it, like this book, terminally insipid and parts of it absolutely fascinating. But I guess that's what collections as diverse as this can offer. As Sonia Faleiro would have it — if sometimes one snags a tooth on a piece of plastic or a tangle of weed, well then, that's life, isn't it? Dec 30 , 2006 -- Thanks to Goanvoice.org.uk for the link
[Goanet] Never judge a book by it's cover (Please, I want to say something to you all)
Never judge a book by it's cover So also, never judge a person by his appearance or by his writings or by his handwriting. Home made or hand made things/gifts/sweets etc indicate something really coming from one's heart.. (So, avoid buying ready-made, if you can) Check here, what else JoeGoaUk has to say to you all.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk8/338255941/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Global Goans Convention -Update
Talking Photos: Global Goans Convention -Update http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=339671422size=l Please don't miss it, if you are in Goa. Remember, even last minute registrations may be accepted at the Hotel Cidade de Goa counter on the day. For further details call on 2419824 (Fax 2419856) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] abv. contact details obtained from GT dt.30/12/06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007
WISHING YOU ALL PEOPLE, FRIENDS, RELATIVES AND WELL-WISHERS IN KUWAIT, GULF, MIDDLE EAST, USA, CANADA, EUROPE, LONDON, INDIA AND ESPECIALLY MY BEAUTIFUL GOA A HAPPY PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR - 2007 MAY ALL YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE Love Santana Piedade Afons and family, Kuwait.
[Goanet] Cult (Was: Goanet Should be ............)
Dear Santosh, How about making this your New Year's resolution. Avoid arguing with a man whose main debating point is essentially, There was this guy on T.V. who said.. Best Wishes for 2007! Sunith -- Sunith D Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Nellie Furtado... Goan link?
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/furtado-was-to-feature-in-rdb-rehman/29874-8.html Furtado was to sing in RDB: Rehman ibnlive.com Posted Saturday , December 30, 2006 at 20:02 New Delhi: Pop sensation Nelly Furtado was to originally feature on the soundtrack of the film Rang De Basanti, composer A R Rehman said. It was due to changes in producers and other factors that resulted in her not being there on it, Rehman said at a press conference ahead of a concert featuring both artistes. Furtado and Rehman will perform at the concert organised by Nokia at the Andheri Sports Complex on Sunday. Furtado said that her ancestry can be traced back to Goa and that while growing up with Indians in Canada, she had often sung in Hindi on various occasions. I will be visiting Agra but unfortunately I will not be able to visit Goa which holds special significance for me, said Furtado speaking of her trip to India. I grew up hearing Indian artistes like Lata Mangeshkar and though am not very fluent with the language, I do know songs like Yeh Samaa and Kabhi Kabhi, Furtado said. The singer, who recently released her album, Loose, was all praises for India's Oscar candidate Rang De Basanti and said that she was hoping to act in the English version of the same film. At the press conference, Rehman said that apart from two of his songs from the soundtrack of Rang De Basanti, a song from the soundtrack of Water had been shortlisted for the Oscars. Rehman also unveiled his latest single Pray for me brother, a song which has been sung in support of the United Nations' fight against tuberculosis. -- What they don't tell you about Saddam Hussein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein UPI: Saddam key in early CIA plot http://shrunklink.com?puf
[Goanet] Navy demands land .....
I am willing to hear your argument on the need for civilian use of Dabolim Thanks for the interest, Roland. Pls check out this link for starters: http://www.epw.org.in/showArticles.php?root=2006leaf=10filename=10655file type=pdf Another useful reference is the Wikipedia article on Dabolim airport: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabolim_Airport Please feel free to express your own opinions about civil aviation in Dabolim and India as a citizen of a democratic country. Thanks, Phil P.S. Viva Goa!
[Goanet] 101 cybergoans: Recognising people of Goan origin making a difference the world over
FN's 101 cybergoans honours list: New Year Day 2007 --- Recognising people of Goan origin making a difference the world over PANJIM (Goa), Dec 31: From coaching top football clubs in Moscow to fighting race discrimination, from becoming Telugu film stars to heading hundred million-dollar technology firms, members of the Goan diaspora are notching up a surprising range of achievements worldwide. This point gets underlined in a new initiative, a list of 101 cybergoans worldwide, who are making a major mark in diverse fields across many unexpected parts of the globe. Compiled by cyber-journalist Frederick Noronha, the list aims to acknowledge the contributions by people of Goan origin, regardless of where they are located, and in what field they work. It has been released at the start of the year 2007. Noronha says the listing is based on information emerging in cyberspace. But much of it is yet to be adequately noticed by readers back home, he says. It is networks like the UK-based Goanvoice.org.uk, edited by Eddie Fernandes (till recently at University College London), and the 12-year-old volunteer network Goanet (www.goanet.org) that is throwing up a wealth of such information, says he. Some of those on the list aren't even people. But whether men, women, rich or as average as anyone else, or organisations, all have some visible link with Goa. Most are individuals or organisations which have been attracting attention in cyberspace in the past year. Some have passed on long back, but remain in the news nonetheless -- like Kenyan vice-president Joseph Zuzarte Murumbi and the famed Mumbai-based Goan gynaec Dr V N Shirodkar of the 'Shirodkar stitch' fame. All have done things that deserve to be better noticed back home... if this society is to build more effectively on the talent, resources and brain-power of Goa's diaspora, argued Noronha, commenting on the list released as the New Year gets ushered into Goa. There will be ommissions on this list. There might be even debate over who gets included. It's a subjective view, and certainly not the last word on the subject. But we do need to start recognising the contribution of people from this small region... where ever they are located, and in whichever field, argued Noronha. Some surprise inclusions on the list are Miss Great Britain (Preeti Desai, 25); CEO of zedo.com Roy De Souza; Symantec senior vice president Francis deSouza; Cognizant COO Francisco D'Souza, Dell Inc manager Andrew Fernandes, Kent busdriver Ken D'Souza; meditation teacher Lygia Monteiro; campaigners against racism and more. Eight bullet-points listed refer to organisations: the alumni BMX (Brittos-Marys-Xaviers) network founded in Toronto; VascokarsUnited mailing list founded by engineer Jen Lewis in Birmingham; GoaSudharop.org from the US; the GoaComputersInSchools Project/Knowledge Initiatives Trust; Tanzanite Goans in Africa; Leonoras Restaurant (run by expat Jerome Mendes, for promoting Goan film); Goenkarancho Ekvott (New Delhi) and even various kudds still surviving against odds in Mumbai. A special section looks at 'cyber pioneers' among Goans who founded initiatives which make a difference to how Goans communicate and are perceived by the outside world -- Herman Carneiro (Goanet), Marlon Menezes (GoaWeb, GoaCom), Ulysses Menezes (GoaWorld), Eddie Fernandes (GoanVoiceUK). World Under-8 Chess Champ Ivana Furtado, though based in Goa itself, is an exception to this list of non-residents, in view of her achievement, which surprised all, during the past year. Seen in context, it is amazing that a tiny region like Goa (and its diaspora) could produce such a human resource. It is equally amazing that this talent still goes largely unrecognised back home, says Noronha, involved with cyberspace for the past dozen years. This initiative is expected to feed in wider intitiatives to build networks among Goans worldwide. Below is the list under varied categories: Community-builders, creating social capital - * Prof Dr. Jose Pereira, New York researching Goan music and more * Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, author mentoring writers back home * Dr Colin Saldanha, Mississauga, Strong Communities Coalition * Shalini Pereira, 26, Leicester, project on sustainable housing * Dr. J.Clement Vaz, octogenarian, biographer of Goan achievers * Carolann Fernandes, Ontario Coalition of Senior Citizens' Orgns * Domnic Fernandes, Gulf, reminding Goa about her yesterdays. * George Pinto (Ca), building social entrepreneurship in Goa * Basilio Magno, musician, building Goa's image in Spain Technology, enterprise, finance, the corporate world, etc - * Roy De Souza, CEO and co-founder, zedo.com IL 60201 US * Romulus Pereira, former CEO Riverstone Networks Inc * Francis deSouza, senior VP, Symantec, enterp messaging mgt group *
[Goanet] HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007
Dears, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007. HERE IS ME, WISHING YOU ALL THE VERY BEST IN THE NEW YEAR AND THE YEARS TO FOLLOW. HELP KEEP GOA CLEAN AND GREENFOR THE COMING GENERATIONS TO ENJOY1 Warm regards, Miguel Viva Goa.Say it with feni. MIGUEL BRAGANZA, Mhapsa Horticulturist/ Editor Britto's Old Boys' Assoc.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular/to Mario (2)
Mario Just some quick points in reply to yout post. 1. Commonsense by itself cannot compensate for serious reading. Commonsense comes in before, during and after the substantial evaluative reading and not instead of it! 2. The evidence about Hitler being a Catholic from birth to death is derived from thorough and well regarded historical evidence and not from just some of the points I drew from the published research. Incidentally, you say that my views about Hitler were discredited but this is only in your imagination and not in terms of extensive rebuttel you received as from Aristo when he absolutely demolished your arguments on devastating logic and facts. However, I would be willing to consider your historically unsupported view that, somehow Hitler ceased to be a Catholic along the way. In turn, in terms of your self asserted devastating logic and facts I should like you to indicate that, according to you, the 'devils incarnate,' Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden are not deemed to be Muslims or Islamo Fascists as you have been inclined to label them thus. Put simply, if Hitler can be rejected as a Catholic, then the same logic should apply to the two Muslims named above. This of course, generates anothe questio---what did they become? I also refer to your absurd state of denial that, (because it is true in most faiths), there are indeed rotten Catholics like the Mafioso and Cosa Nostra that the Church holds in hope for eventual redemption rather than your punitive kind of 'eradiction' of such people from your Catholic list. I am inclined to think that, your stance would perhaps make the Pontif blush in embarrassment about your logic and commonsense especially as Hitler was never excommunicated by the Catholic Church despite his vile deeds. Finally, in a fruitful discussion with Gilbert Lawrence, I took note of what he said when I referred (much earlier) to Hitler as a Catholic fascist along with Mussolini and Franco. Gilbert preferred to refer to Hitler as a fascist who also happened to be a Catholic. I informed him then that, I was happy with his well thought out definition! There are other points I could address but will save them for when I have more time beyond this New Year's eve. Cornel - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular/to Mario (2) --- Cornel DaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Selma For a little while, there seemed to be an eerie silence from Mario on Goanet, but I agree with you entirely on your rebuttal of his contention that, religion and culture are separate entities. But then, with much respect, is Mario's view surprising at all? It must stem from his consistent and repeated view that, he relies on commonsense rather than extensive and appropriate reading to inform his thinking! Indeed, from his posts, (and again with respect) it is suggestive that, he has been inclined to think that, his (non-reading) stance is emblematic of a virtue rather than an absolute embarrassment. Minimally, his differentiation between religion and culture and the way he has made his claim for this view is surely a kind of profound 'illiteracy' to portray on the much esteemed Goanet! Mario observes: Cornel, I see you have once again avoided addressing my opinions directly and are using Selma and some puerile psychobabble to TRY and make some points without citing a single word of what I had written previously in this thread. Also, let me observe the obvious - facile and unsubstantiated claims of illiteracy on my part are hardly a testimony to literacy on your part. Secondly, in my never humble opinion, slavishly absorbing and regurgitating the written opinions of others is no substitute for one's own common sense and a logical opinion of one's own.
Re: [Goanet] Archbishop's Address
On 29/12/06, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Gabe, Those are rather strong words from a Goan based in a country that elected Tony Blair for a second term. WMD anyone? Viva Goa. Miguel RESPONSE: My Dear Miguel, I would like to inform you that, voters in the U.K. okayed Tony Blair, but with a greatly reduced majority ! In fact shot were fired across his bow. Tony Blair's recent form has been a down right, almost tailspin for the Labour Party. The fact that he 'toadies' to Herr Bush has not endeared him to the public here in the U.K. As you may or may not know Tony Blair has tarnished the U.K. and the majority of the electorate want him out, sooner than later ! Goa is about 20 years at best behind the mindset of the U.K Citizens. I shall be, among the majority glad, to see his back side and his strident stride ala Bush ! I would be more than ecstatic, if my brothers and sisters in Goa, would fire some strident shots across the bow of the present incumbents ! Can we expect, even one incumbent to loose his seat ? Here in the U.K. many, very safe seats were lost and the blame was laid at the P.M.'s door. I challenge the Goan electorate to throw out just one bigwigI am not even convinced that Churchill can kick out Luizinho. Goan pigs will surely fly before that ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Archbishop's Address
On 30/12/06, Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe Menezes makes a very valid point when he asks: Who will stand against the corrupt Politicians and win? In Mumbai, at every election time, we get calls from concerned citizens to vote for the right candidate. However, none of these citizens will make a list of who is the right candidate, and campaign for them. Without such guidance the average citizen is a lost person, and will vote on the basis of who will deliver him the services needed by him at the local level. I hope I am not adding a sour note on the subject. There was a move by some priests in Goa to set up an organisation which would work towards the cleaning of the political system, even to the extent of sponsoring the right candidates. From a report that was posted on Goanet, the higher ups in the church shot it down. Does anyone know what happened to it? Sachin Phadte RESPONSE: My Dear Sachin, As a case in point, Luizinho Faleiro, owes his presence, as an MLA to Rev. Fr. Roberto Vaz of Navelim (R.I.P.). That being the case the only people in Navelim, that can promote and effect a change, if need be, are the Catholic Church ? If the Church deems that Churchill is the better man to serve the constituents of Navelim, he will win - simple as that! In Navelim the Church rules supremeanyone disputes this please respond. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Netas to party with Mallya in Goa
http://in.news.yahoo.com/061231/211/6aptw.html Netas to party with Mallya in Goa Enlarge Photo By IBNlive.com Sunday December 31, 04:25 PM New Delhi: Everybody's getting ready to bid goodbye to 2006 and welcome the new year. And on the last day of the year, even politicians read the meaning of the word party differently. Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh should be worried because Chairman of United Breweries and owner of Kingfisher Airlines, Vijay Mallya is hosting a small Cabinet meet. Four of Manmohan Singh's colleagues have gone to Goa to attend the meet. Leading the team to the kingdom of good times will be India's cricket guru and agriculture minister, Sharad Pawar. The next on the list is Pawar's protégé and Civil Aviation Minister, Praful Patel who has flown with him to meet Mallya. Even Petroleum Minister Murli Deora has tanked up gas and is heading in the same direction. And last but not the least, there is Mines minister T Subirammi Reddy who is accompanying them to dig up some fun. The new Kaun Banega Crorepati (KBC) host Shahrukh Khan will also fly in to offer all his four options to the political class. Brothers-in-arms Mukesh and Anil will preach different reliance's. Then, there are young people from India's first political family are already there. Politicians like everywhere-to-be-seen Rajiv Shukla have also joined the beeline for the fizz and froth. With so much of fanfare, Mallya could well bring out a political calendar next year. (With inputs from Diptosh Majumdar)
[Goanet] We want the Essence of Goa to be Preserved - Dr Oscar Rebello
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED, The time is come for the people of Goa to ORGANISE not AGONISE !! -- -- We want the Essence of Goa to be Preserved -- Dr Oscar Rebello, Convenor, Goa Bachao Abhiyan in an interview to Abdul Rauf Beig says that there has been 21 per cent change in settlement areas from the draft Regional plan 2011 and the finally approved plan, without public, local bodies, etc, being informed about the changes. He also adds that the plan is illegal and should be scrapped and a new one should be formulated taking into consideration the views of urban designers, planners, environmentalists, etc. Why are you opposed to Regional plan 2011? We are opposed to the plan for the simple reason that this regional plan has been changed drastically from the draft regional plan which was put out for public scrutiny in August this year. I would like to state here that there has been 21 per cent change in settlement areas from the draft plan and the finally approved plan, without public, local bodies, etc, being informed about the changes. Clearly a plan which involves all of us and the future of Goa has not been kept for discussion with the relevant stakeholders and since this practice has not been followed I would say that this plan is illegal and should be scrapped and a new one formulated taking into consideration the views of urban designers, planners, environmentalists, etc. We want the essence of Goa to be preserved. But the Regional Plan 2011 is said to have been drawn to correct the regional imbalance that has been seen in the state since the boom in development from mid1980s onwards? If the plan was so transparent, why was it not put up for public scrutiny? If it was a wonderful plan why were they hiding it from public gaze all the time till it was notified? If one takes a look at the plan it sets in vast areas of orchards, forest lands, mangroves, rivers, etc, and nobody has ever taken note of this. It is going brazenly for settlement zones, for what? These settlement areas are basically playground for the rich and famous. They have not taken care of sewage, waste disposal, roads, or any other infrastructure into consideration while changing zones. There has been no planner of repute or architect of repute on the Town and Country Planning Board to come out on some consensus on this plan. This planning is nothing but a plan to trigger off real estate boom in this state and the authorities seem to have done that. We would not be able to reverse the long term devastation that this plan would cause. Would not your opposition to the Regional Plan hinder all-round development of the state? This is the common allegation made against us that we are against development, which is basically sidetracking the issue we have been pursuing. Nobody is against development, clearly we want development and also we want the marginalised sections of society to also come to the bandwagon and enjoy the fruit of a liberalized economy. Nobody in one's right senses opposes development. What we are opposed to is the opaque, illegal manner by which the plan was approved and notified. If the plan was wonderful why was it not placed for public scrutiny before it was notified? How is it that all the assets of Goa like beaches, forests etc, which make Goa what it is, being destroyed? What development are we talking of? Is it the development of only rich and privileged, so that they can have holiday homes, etc? The authorities have failed to take care of essential services to poor and underprivileged living in the rural areas. Even motorable roads are unavailable in so many interior villages of Goa. If the government loves the people of Goa and carries out development it has to be for everybody and not for a few, with only profits in mind. Could you identify the places where motorable roads do not exist in Goa? There are so many interiors which do not have motorable roads, in Sanguem and Sattari that our group has visited. It is not just roads but other basic facilities too. I would state that people have to walk miles to fetch water. We want the government to focus on all round development. Will your opposition not hinder industrial development? Please do not accuse us of being anti-development. We are not against development, we only oppose the regional plan. We have suggested to the captains of industry, who think we are against development, that since we believe that this plan is illegal let us get it scrapped and let the captains of industry, tourism sector, environmentalists, planners, engineers, etc, sit across and draw a plan that shall be
Re: [Goanet] Archbishop's Address
Does anyone know what happened to it? Sachin Yes, indeed. I met Fr. Antimo Gomes (V.P. GNM) today at the Taleigao Rally, dropped him at the Panjim Church, where he is the Parish Priest, went in with him as he wanted to give me the 'GOECHE NIZ MOJI' amcho 'ELECTION-2007 MANIFESTO' which is scheduled to be released on 3rd. Jan, 2006 at Don Bosco's, Panjim at 4 p.m. And, I have been invited. I have enthusiastically accepted the invitation. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: [Goanet] Archbishop's Address Gabe Menezes makes a very valid point when he asks: Who will stand against the corrupt Politicians and win? In Mumbai, at every election time, we get calls from concerned citizens to vote for the right candidate. However, none of these citizens will make a list of who is the right candidate, and campaign for them. Without such guidance the average citizen is a lost person, and will vote on the basis of who will deliver him the services needed by him at the local level. I hope I am not adding a sour note on the subject. There was a move by some priests in Goa to set up an organisation which would work towards the cleaning of the political system, even to the extent of sponsoring the right candidates. From a report that was posted on Goanet, the higher ups in the church shot it down. Does anyone know what happened to it? Sachin Phadte _ Spice up your IM conversations. New, colorful and animated emoticons. Get chatting! http://server1.msn.co.in/SP05/emoticons/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/52 - Release Date: 7/19/05
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular/ to Mario
Hi Gilbert I note your post to Cip. I am pretty sure that the grandmothers and great grand-mothers would be most positive about their progeny who are graduates from borem-vodelem universities because they have been able to see through the fairy tales presented to earlier generations as gospel truth. Most of all, they would be incredibly proud of the fact that, Catholic Goan caste humbug that, many of them had to endure, is being soundly derided as a distinct form of obscene racism with sound unassailable evidence and argument. Incidentally, I have to say that you are being somewhat mischievous---nobody on Goanet has even tried to want us to loose the religious identity too: under the guise of being progressive. I therefore challenge you to provide evidence for the point you make above. Indeed, I for one, have on several occasions told you that the last thing I would ever want is for you to question your faith. Further, and repeatedly, that I respect those who hold their faith sincerely. I have the evidence for this and can readily display it on Goanet. In turn, I want to suggest that all you have is some unauthenticated woolly make-believe in your post to Cip. I hope this will help to start a Happy New Year of necessary enlightenment on a range of issues on Goanet. Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 3:04 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular/ to Mario Hi Cip, What you have outlined are different sides of the same cube. Yet they are a part of a whole and compliment each other. It is like a human body which has several independent but connected parts. You likely heard the story of different anatomical organs of the body arguing who is more important?. Most Catholic Goans (sp. in the Diaspora) have lost their cultural identity (customs) - except for song, dance, food and drink. Many are LEFT ONLY WITH their religious customs (rituals) as reflected at childbirth, marriage and funeral. Now some intellectual Goans - atheists / agnostics / secular humanists - want us to loose the religious identity too; under the guise of being progressive. Yet they insists on wanting to preserve their 'Goaness'. In the above scenario, I often wonder what the primary grade (educated) grandmothers and great-grandmothers are saying about their progeny who are double-graduates from borem-vodlem universities. Kind Regards, GL
Re: [Goanet] Time for change
Congratulations Valmiki. Very well written like a good columnist and very well wished, like a true Goencar. A few like you in politics and Goa would march towards the destiny we all wish for her. Cheers, Roland. On 12/30/06, Valmiki Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TIME FOR CHANGE By Valmiki Faleiro As the evening shadows lengthen at the last sunset of 2006, I see on the horizon not a fading glow of the setting sun but the aurora of one rising, I see Kundaim and Saleli. And Keri before that. I see 'Goa Bachao Abhiyan' reemerging as 'Goa Bachao Kranti.' People power, on the ascendant. It may not happen in 2007, but should not be long in coming. The last on my Wish List for 2007 is that it arrives before it's too late. (ENDS) = The above article appeared in the November 5, 2006 edition of the HERALD, Goa
Re: [Goanet] Cabinet Decision on RP 2011
On 31/12/06, Tony Correia Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all know the old saying about a species of rodent leaving a vessel which is about to be submerged. Likewise, those in authority who are guilty of tacitly approving the notorious Regional Plan 2011 are now busy proclaiming their opposition to it! The latest one to join the queue is PWD Minister Sudhin Davalikar, who is reported to have stated that the Plan Notification was approved by the Cabinet through circulation and that there was no discussion on it, even though he signed it without recording any dissent! If such vital issues which will affect the future of our State for generations are decided by our Cabinet without any discussion, one wonders what they discuss when they DO meet - the price of fish or the latest Bollywood blockbuster, perhaps? Wonders never cease in our wonderful Goa! ---Tony Correia-Afonso. RESPONSE:The People who elected Sudhin Davalikar should take note, that they elected a buffoon, who signs with no regard for what it is that he is signing ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Goa news for January 1, 2007
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Protest in Goa against regional plan (NDTV) Hundreds of Goans from across the state took out a protest march on Sunday against the Goa Regional Plan. With flags in hand, they marched through the streets of Talegaon, past the house of Town Planning Minister Babush Montserrat. http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=Nationalslug=Protest in Goa against regional planid=98736 *** Tourists throng Goa, security stepped up (The Times of India) Security has been strengthened in Goa in the wake of terror threats, as lakhs of tourists descended at the coastal state to party to usher in New Year. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/India/Tourists_throng_Goa_security_stepped_up/articleshow/995419.cms *** Goa: Security beefed up as lakhs of tourists arrive (rediff.com) Gun-wielding Central Industrial Security Force and Goa police personnel have been posted at major beaches. http://www.rediff.com/rss/redirect.php?url=http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/dec/30goa.htm *** Freedom At Midnight Curtailed, Youth Party At Goa (The Times of India) HYDERABAD: Revelry on New Year's eve took a backseat with traffic restrictions and the streets being roamed by cops with breath analysers in their hands. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Freedom_curtailed/articleshow/1002881.cms *** Passengers thrown off Goa flight (BBC News) A plane travelling to Goa made an emergency landing when passengers caused a disturbance on board. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/england/manchester/6221419.stm *** Gays celebrate New Year in Goa a day in advance (New Kerala) Vasco (Goa), Dec 31: Hundreds of homosexuals from Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Goa thronged a secluded place in this port town to revel in festivities to usher in the New Year. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=72729 *** Tourists throng Goa in lakhs; security stepped up (New Kerala) Panaji, Dec 30: Security has been strengthened in Goa in the wake of terror threats, as lakhs of tourists, including foreigners and some high-profile visitors, have descended at the coastal state to party to usher in New Year. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=72583 *** Fashion collection in Goa, Lebanese dance troupe in Jaipur, different ways to welcome 2007 (New Kerala) Candolim(Goa)/Jaipur (Rajasthan), Dec 31 : One of India's top fashion designer has chosen to usher in the New Year by launching a fashion collection in the carnival ambience of Goa. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=72802 *** Goa Govt reacts sharply opposition to state as IFFI venue (New Kerala) Panaji, Dec 30: Goa government today reacted sharply to reports about Film Federation of India's (FFI) decision to oppose selection of Goa as the venue for the International Film Festival of India (IFFI). http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=72611 *** Netas to party with Mallya in Goa (IBN via Yahoo! India News) Did you ever wonder what ministers did on New Years? This year four of them are in Goa to attend Vijay Mallya s party. http://in.news.yahoo.com/061231/211/6aptw.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Re. Justice Wolfango Dourado/NRI's
Eduardo Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EDUARDO FALEIRO COMMISSIONER FOR NRI AFFAIRS (Cabinet Minister Rank) GOVERNMENT OF GOA December 23, 2006 Dear Consul General, The item below was placed in Goanet by one Mervyn Lobo who claims to be related to Justice Dourado. I shall be grateful for a clarification at your earliest convenience so that we place the correct facts and stop any slander well in time. With my thanks for your valuable cooperation and best wishes for the New Year to you and your family. Regards EDUARDO FALEIRO Folks, If any of you are attending the NRI meeting organized by Eduardo Faleiro, I would like to know if Wolfango Dourado gets an award for being the Attorney General of Tanzania or for being the Attorney General of Zanzibar. As you all know, I tried to set the record straight but instead of getting a note of thanks, E. Faleiro sends a note suggesting slander has got to be stopped! The Indian Consul General in Zanzibar has twice confirmed the fact that E. Faleiro needs to know. Namely, W. Dourado was the Attorney General of Zanzibar. E. Faleiro either chooses not to understand this or thinks that if he ignores the email reminders, the matter will go away. This is an eye opener to all of us NRI's. Personally, I feel that if the commissioner has difficulties recognizing facts, even after they are REPEATEDLY pointed out to him, he is not going to gain the confidence of any NRI. On another note, since Goanet is largest gathering of non-resident Goans, let me wish each and every one of you non-resident Goans a very happy and prosperous 2007. Mervyn Lobo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] CONGRATS! Querobin (Larry) Mendonca makes 101 cybergoans
Congratulations Querobin, You Have Made the 101 CyberGoans List ! It a matter of Great Honor. Pride and Joy ! Feeding quot;the worldquot;... - * Floyd Cardoz, US, executive chef * Antonio F Fernandes, Manager, Royal India Restaurant, Milwaukee * Barbara Gomes, owner Cumin and Goan Restaurant, Ottawa * Valerie Heredia-Viegas, teaching Indian cuisine in WA, US. * Samir Sadekar, London. Imli's Executive Chef from Porvorim. * Larry Mendonca, Melbourne, quot;ex-curry kingquot; see below for details. Best Regards, Carmo (in Bombay)
Re: [Goanet] Archbishop's Address
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a case in point, Luizinho Faleiro, owes his presence, as an MLA to Rev. Fr. Roberto Vaz of Navelim (R.I.P.). That being the case the only people in Navelim,that can promote and effect a change, if need be, are the Catholic Church ? If the Church deems that Churchill is the better man to serve the constituents of Navelim, he will win - simple as that! In Navelim the Church rules supreme anyone disputes this please respond. Gabe Menezes. London, England Nasci responds: Gabe, is is good that 'in Navelim' the Church rules supreme? if not then why not go about correcting the staus quo? As per the Goa Archbishops message; the Church is there to 'mould the Conscience' and as a challenge to the Church to educate and guide her members on how to exercise their vote judiciously. I think that is how it should be! The church in Navelin is wrong in directly supporting any one candidate or party. Instead this should only be advisory and left to civil non clergy Catholics to propogate and lead and further the cause! Of course, on the other hand, any member of the clergy has, as a citizen, the right to propogate and even stand as a candidate if he so desires; but all this should be done outside of the Pulpit; and outside the Body of the Church; thereby promoting 'secular' politics. Also, would it be beneficial for Goa if Churchill takes the place of Luisinho in Navelim? Both have a very bad record of favouritism et al! Why not bring out a new person untainted, and support him/her to the fullest. Lastly, Gabe, (now that you have comfortably retired and is elligible for reclaiming your Indian citizenship) why not you stand for the Navelim Constituency, be an 'example' and avoid being like Louisinho, Churchill or even Blair! Just a thought! Happy New Year 2007, and a New invigorating Govt. in Goa. Nasci Caldeira Melbourne, Down Under. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Sausages In A Rosary
Saibal Das MAPUSA Sausages In A Rosary The Mapusa market has the best Goan spices and spirits LESLEY A. ESTEVES Special Issue: Food Towns Special You don't just get Goa's famous feni and port wine here; you get the best home-distilled cashew and coconut feni and home-made currant, ginger and beetroot wine. You don't just get the best cashewnuts cheaper here than anywhere else in Goa; you get them in 10-kg tins at incredible wholesale rates. Here being Mapusa, home every Friday to Goa's biggest fresh produce bazaar. Folks, What's missing here is what is the er, coolest spot to wash away the dust of the market. Yes, I am talking about cold beers. Once upon a time, at least for E. Africans, it used to be Casa Bela, then Bertsy's. Bwana Shenzi, which is the spot you now use? Mervyn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Gays celebrate New Year in Goa a day in advance
http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?rep=2aid=345152ssid=204sid=LIF Gays celebrate New Year in Goa a day in advance Vasco, Dec 31: Hundreds of homosexuals from Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Goa thronged a secluded place in this port town to revel in festivities to usher in the New Year. The gay community preponed the festivities by a day and welcomed the New Year at an isolated house tucked on a hillock at Vasco last night. The community's members from Hyderabad, Pune, Sangli, Belgaum, Nasik and Goa participated in the overnight festivities. Gay associations like Mukanayak (Sangli), Birds (Belgaum), Samapathik (Pune) and Goa's Humsafar Trust had publicised this party, which coincided with the birthday of a Goan gay community member. A dance competition and the birthday celebration were the highlights with Madhuri Dixit's famous hits from Hum Aapke Hai Kaun and songs from Subhash Ghai's Kisna topping the playlist at the party. Dressed like women for the dance competition, the revellers categorically rubbished the general impression equating them with hijras or eunuchs. Society should understand that we are normal and shouldn't look at us as a nuisance. Let us live our life with dignity, gay activist Lal Baig told at the party's venue. Here at the party, we will do all those things which we can't do in society. We will dance, enjoy and spend good times with members of our community, Baig said before the party began. Fun was not the only item on the agenda of the revellers. It's an occasion when we actually get the time to discuss our problems. Sans social recognition, we often can't hold meetings in the open. We use such opportunities to educate community members about issues like loyalty to a gay partner which will reduce their vulnerability to diseases like HIV-AIDS, Vishant Chodankar, a project manager of Humsafar Trust who is gay, said. Goa, which has some 6,000 gays, has witnessed an increase in gay marriages, with 25 such weddings reported in the past couple of months in this coastal state. Bureau Report
